Thread 107082634

What went wrong?

What are you trying to say

>>107082669
I'm not op, but this really isn't hard. think of it as an IQ test. or perceptiveness maybe

>>107082669
Old OS is same size as modern app.

>>107082634 (OP)
Capitalism

>>107082634 (OP)
its arguable that contemporary gmail is more sophisticated/feature-rich/robust than windows 98. I wouldn't assume its filesize is bloated unless someone could actually point at waste material in the bundle.

>>107082711
MS-DOS size, floppy
17 later, 1998, Netscape Communicator, 30MB

>>107082809
>more sophisticated/feature-rich/robust
nigger it's just a frontend with two dozen buttons making cloud api calls

>>107082634 (OP)
>What went wrong?
Java.

>>107082748
/thread

>What went wrong?
pajeets

>>107082809
I can run Diablo 2 on Gmail? No? Then stop larping nigger.

>>107082960
Not exactly, you forgot multiple dependencies that do formatting, rendering, animations, client-side logic, calendar integration, google services integration, auth and actual email sending which actually takes a lot of heavy lifting to do right and safe.

>>107082634 (OP)
Because over the years tech companies have been playing "hot potato" with tech debt. They offload it to a new "paradigm" or new language or new technology but ultimately old issues aren't easily solved with new tools because all the new shit that was piled up on top.

Moores law held that shit up a while with devs being less and less interested in optimizing their code but ultimately things have shifted so far that people just want to fuel the fire with AI now.

I assume there is probably a company or research team making optimization on popular compilers to see if they can multithread and multiprocess things further, but that's just my wild dream. Otherwise we can only cry and hope that we will be save by thermodynamics, quantum or optical computing at this point.

>>107083146
i no longer feel angry at optimized version

omg number bigger

>>107082960
not quite. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30443310 people have taken it apart. the size comes from features you or I can call bloat, but my point stands. gmail is a lot more sophisticated than just an email client. Its pieces fit together in uncertain/mobile network conditions, with accessibility features, multi-media/web content support, spam detection, text prediction, multi-language support, syncing data across different google apps, within a fragmented ecology of devices and different input/display modalities.

The bundle size comparison doesn't tell a meaningful story. Were google to strip features they could get it down to a microscopic size, however this would make it a worse for the long tail of people who would use it.

It's not impossible to build a better debloated alternatives (look at figma) but it takes a lot more work than bitching and moaning

>>107083225
>spam detection
anon... that is done server-side

Hi, my name is Shane Parker. And i am a Junior Engineer working for Google!
I noticed Gmail app is a whopping 700MB+ for iOS. And that's not okay!
So, i received permission from Craig Wakoczyki, the Chief Scientist at Gmail. And I rewrote Gmail app. The results are genuinely amazing!
The final size is 24 bytes. That's genuinely small enough to fit on an old-school floppy disc!
Tere is the source code:
<iframe src="gmail.com">
So, Expect this to make its way onto iOS version 26.0.1.017265.Nightly.0000000000000000000679842035.dev.Dev.8395150.5051837510875981.959830015.1.61.6.42.70831712.62.8.2.364.3.82.81.4.623.32.72.35.24..24.5..1.7.13.47Nightly.com.apple.google.gmail.com.WebKit.30618.1018376.263.7.245..22.8.13.74.32.72..18.13.47.13.8.813.58.1..341.71.347.12.641.346 by either Monday or Tuesday night. You will need a business certificate installed on XCode in order for this update to work perfectly.

tech bloat where they have to make sure it works on older systems
it doesnt for the most part because they dont do a good job maintaining it, but thats the idea at least

>>107082634 (OP)
An email shouldn't be more than 733 kilobytes.

>>107082634 (OP)
jeets taking over american companies

>>107083666
underappreciated shitpost
toppest of jejs

Why would Windows 98 Second Edition be in search of a file? Wouldn't it know where the files were, being that it is the operating system?

>>107082634 (OP)
I wish there was an actual competitor to gmail. i hate using Google products but this is one that's hard to get away from

>>107082634 (OP)
menuet os takes less than a floppy and features working x64 system with plenty of applications
modern retard devs need whole os or a browser in a container to distribute a single application
the only such trick to package an application with all it's dependencies allowed should be squashfs and preferably statically compiled program
anything else is a crime against humanity

>>107082634 (OP)
iOS

no but seriously like everytime i see shit like this, the android equivalent app is 1/3 the filesize.

Windows 11 recently got too big to fit on even DL-DVDs so you have to use a USB.

>>107083116
>pointless fluff that 99% of the userbase never touches

>>107082634 (OP)
internet explorer 4.0