Thread 107097396

why did Windows win the early rounds of OS wars

1995-2002

ibm greed and sneed

Amiga shit the bed on several arenas and were basically the own reason of their downfall.

>>107097443
Yeah, they should've hired a jewish CEO

>>107097396 (OP)
Why do zoomer faggots think everything was a war?

>>107097396 (OP)
Apple was insanely expensive and people were scared of the command line. Windows machines could be dirt cheap and let you mostly avoid dealing with DOS directly.
>>107097425
OS/2 had great promise but you're right, IBM fucked up.
>>107097443
>You work hard, you play hard.
Don't know who was in charge of their ad campaigns, but they did a poor job of communicating what the Amiga could do.

>>107097396 (OP)
Windows was the only company other than Apple to realize that GUIs were the future, and they offered it cheaper than Apple did.

>>107097396 (OP)
It didn't.

>1995-2002
That's not early OS wars. Also in the 90's, Window's was not that relevant, try DOS or Mac OS.

>>107098224
They were also willing to take on Apple. Some other computer companies made GUIs but were scared that Apple would sue them for things like overlapping windows. Apple showed it wasn't a bluff when they sued Microsoft.

>>107097425
That and apple literally didn't have non-hacky multitasking until OSX.

>>107097396 (OP)
Because Microsoft people sabotaged OS/2. Also DOS compatibility was a nice thing because killer apps.

>>107098236

Since 1995, Windows was relevant but there were other OSes too in 1989-1994

>>107097984
Bill Gates's behaviour at the time certainly made it one.

>>107098357
Visualized
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29qnXTw0qr0

>>107098357
>was relevant
I didn't say otherwise, I literally said "was not THAT relevant".

>>107098236
2002 was the first year I started using the computer and came online. I wish I could've been around earlier than that, but I wasn't born early enough. It's all been downhill since day one.

>>107098458
>video literally shows that DOS was hugely more relevant for the majority of the 90's compared to Windows

>>107098357
Yeah, I used both windows and dos back during those days, since there were things that just weren't possible to do in windows.
I sort of don't think I stopped using dos until windows xp, but this is such a long time ago that I struggle to remember.

>>107098458
I'm surprised Amiga OS never hit more than 6 percent, that has to be a mistake?

>>107098458
that video gets kind of useless when the phone OS get included honestly

>>107099397
Nope, Amiga sold in the millions, PC (and compadibles) sold in the tens of millions at that time.

>>107097396 (OP)
Ironically as someone who grew up first using Windows 3.1 then moving on to Windows 95 and 98. I always wanted to use Mac and Amiga. Lived in a rural shithole where I didn't have easy access to obtain them. Got to try out an iBook in the mid 2000s and eventually switched to Mac once I saved up and was able to order around the time that Vista came out and used that alongside having a PC for other needs that was still running XP until Windows 7 came out then eventually just made the jump to Linux in the early 2010s. Essentially I was one of those weird anons who was running Windows, OSX, and Linux on three different machines in my room at one time in history.

>>107100349
>Essentially I was one of those weird anons who was running Windows, OSX, and Linux on three different machines in my room at one time
In other words, a tech enthusiast.

>>107098486
People tend to forget that windows 3.1 was a huge pile of crap, and you'd exit into dos in order to do a lot of things since most apps weren't designed to run in windows, yet.
That didn't change until win 95.

>>107100448
Yeah, most people never ended up having to touch it. Oddly enough in my school back in the 90s there was only one computer until 1996 and it was running Windows 3.1. No kids wanted to even touch the thing nor did the teachers. I was pretty much the only one who even bothered with it as I was familiar with Windows 3.1 thanks to my friend's dad who taught me how to use a computer. We never even did work on it or anything as it just sat there until I came along. I even had educational DOS software that I'd bring with me to use on it such as the Knowledge Adventure collection and the teachers were more annoyed with me over it than anything else. I tried to have fun in class and that just came back to bite me in the ass. My principal was impressed with me and I even went through one of those GATE programs that people discuss sometimes on other boards due to it getting my IQ tested and all of that.

>>107100365
Yeah, but younger generations don't even know what the word enthusiast means or really use it anymore. I do tend to forget there's anon's probably around my age still around here and there or at least those in their late 20s/early 30s.

>>107098236
>Also in the 90's, Window's was not that relevant, try DOS
windows 95 was literally DOS 6's successor and replacement

>>107097396 (OP)
Here's my unpopular opinion, Jews.

>>107100349
I think the AmigaOS was superior to windows and it's a shame that they lost.
Not surprisingly the demo scene loved the amiga.
It's always the great ones that fall the hardest.

Amiga Workbench had multitasking in 1985.

>>107101720
Just like how Sega was more innovative than Nintendo and the superior gaming brand.

>>107101720
Businesses generally don't buy thousands of computers for their workers so they can watch Future Crew and Loonies.

Microsoft was literally paying OEMs to not bundle anything but Windows.
And no normie ever goes out and buys an OS and installs it manually.

BeOS made Windows look like absolute garbage. Not just more stable and advanced but also faster.

>>107101720
>the demo scene loved the amiga
still do
t. amiga assembly demo coder since 1990

>>107101720
The hardware in general was superior for a period, similarly with X68000 and Macintosh (as far as consumer market goes).

>>107097396 (OP)
Try installing early versions of OS/2 and you'll understand. Windows was just easier.

>>107097396 (OP)
>why did windows win
>microsoft only sold software
>everyone else was selling computers
>every computer company had their own os
>ibm got in the game with non-proprietary chips
>microsoft supplied ibm with a non-exclusive os
>everyone cloned ibm pc
>pc clones everywhere
>all pc/clones had dos and then windows
>because why buy a new computer to get a gui
>just install windows
simple as

>>107102355
Sega was fucked because both Sega of America and Sega of Japan were pants-on-head retarded. Sega was basically current year Xbox times a thousand.

>>107108449
short answer
>pc clones everywhere

>>107097483
>Yeah, they should've hired a jewish CEO

The company owners was one and he treated the company as a money laundering operation. Any time the board appointed a CEO who knew his shit, they got fired because they raised operational costs (you know, putting more money in shit like R&D so they can release good new products).
The AGA was 3 years too late as a result and made Commodore lose their technical superiority.

>>107097396 (OP)
Aggressive OEM deals. Microsoft required or incentivized PC makers to preinstall Windows, giving it default presence on nearly every new machine in the 1990s.

>>107097396 (OP)
DOS compatibility and the ability to run on cheap hardware. OS/2 Warp had the first but not the second, *nix had the second but not the first, and none of the other contenders had either.

>>107097396 (OP)
Because in 1996 Linux was a fucking royal pain in the ass. As an early adopter and someone that was at least already competent with DOS it was a learning curve. The average Joe never would have gotten his sound to work.

>>107108504
Sure, there was problems due to SoA of SoJ. Honestly, the 32X shouldn't have existed and the Sega CD was a bit too early and all of that focus should have been on the Sega Saturn. Regardless of the shitshow things ended up being during that time period because of the two parties within the company. Sega was still more innovative and interesting looking back than Nintendo was and was developing more powerful hardware/software than Nintendo was. Regardless of the masses eating Nintendo's slop. I just making a comparison of a historic real scenario that was similar to the one that was experienced within the computer market back in the late 80s and early 90s. It wasn't just a console war. It could have been a real OS war as the thread subject is about that could have extended to a higher level as the console war was back then. You just didn't have as many people focused on computers in that manner as kids, teens, and young adults were wtih vidya.

>>107108831
Just like how Nintendo was with their gaming licenses not allowing those devs to make games for Sega Master System or any other consoles around back then. Fuck Nintendo and Fuck Microsoft.

>>107097443
It was a lesson to be learned, that Amiga is best served with third party support. And no one can take away the hardware and software you own.