Thread 107098241

Why aren't you using the rat DE?
>fastest file manager on linux when changing folders, the most fast and instant loading and transfering of any file manager on linux and the best file manager on linux
>fastest application launching, most apps like thunar, settings, task manager take between 20-30 milliseconds vs 300-500 milliseconds on KDE(AKA half a second)
>easy to customize and just werks, stable and easy to use and understand as a new user
>just werks, stable and lightweight, uses very little CPU or RAM and the compositing is light weight

no thumbnails in filepicker
legacy gtk3slop
mogged by kde
Done

>>107098241 (OP)
I use kde, but my nixos for install and j my laptop is xfce. I'm strongly thinking about switching.

>>107098241 (OP)
no gayland = permanent keylogger

>>107098241 (OP)
>file manager runs a fucking daemon in the background
>xfconf cowshit instead of dotfiles
there was some other stuff I didn't like but I've since forgotten it
I installed Openbox instead of a full-fat DE loaded with crap I don't need

>>107098319
don't run X as root, problem solved

Does Thunar have a details pane like Windows File Explorer for quickly looking at file metadata?

>>107098255
KDE is literally troon software not going to touch it.

>>107098325
I don't feel like doing everything manually through text files and thunar is the best file manager on linux. At that point you're basically creating your own desktop with tint 2 or you're leaning more into WM territory so just use a proper one like xmonad

>>107098255
>no thumbnails in filepicker
?

>>107098241 (OP)
No fractional scaling

uncomposited openbox even

>>107098376
I think he means when you click on the browse button when uploading.

Also how did you do that

>>107098241 (OP)
>fastest blah blah blah
I'm running vanilla Ubuntu on an i7-3770 and nothing is perceptibly slow except snaps.

>>107098424
You know you can use debian on any desktop even guhnome right.

XFCE4 but it's somewhat weird, when I move a window usually it's smooth as it should be but from time to time it seems to snap to my mouse cursor and the first few frames are stuttery.
This is one of the issues I'm having and this is out of the box Fedora 43 installation so I haven't even touched anything.
Yes I do have proper gpu drivers.
There is always some weird annoyances with Linux no matter what you're using.

>>107098667
Oh wait and the screen cordinate box at the center of windows is fucking retarded.

Xfce crashes after playing Quake, Cinnamon doesn't. Simple as.

>>107098241 (OP)
xfce is based.
I like gnome's aesthetics though so i use a bit inspiration from gnome to make xfce a bit like gnome in looks.
The bottom taskbar autohides and is just there for window buttons.

>>107099103
I forgot the image...

>>107098406
Oh, you mean thumbnails in file select on 4chan specifically... still I don't know what he is talking about. To get the panel preview just click on view, then side pane, then check image preview.

>>107098676
>muh vidya gayman
Opinion discarded

>>107099111
What theme is that

>>107099135
Jeetcore

>>107099111
How do you get bold fonts in thunar? When I change appearance/fonts font style is changing but if I select Sans Bold for example it doesn't do anything anywhere.

>>107099135
adw-gtk3-dark and metacity window manager.

>>107098326
It's displayed in line at the bottom of the window when you hover select a file.

>>107099121
Can you have large thumbnails or do you need to check each image individually with the side pane preview?

>>107098241 (OP)
>file manager
Call me when it's type-to-jump instead of type-to-search.

>>107099121
They're talking about an icon grid view in the file chooser instead of the list view as seen in your image.

>>107099144
the adw-gtk3 theme does that.
you would need to modify gtk.css otherwise in other themes.

>>107099131
Yeah cause shitposting on 4chan is a really productive adult pastime.

>>107099158
>>107099167
In the file select screen native to 4chan, it only lets me see my files in list form and displays the thumbnail as you scroll. I have never had a problem because I ususally name my files or just open thunar and use the side pane preview or the spacebar full size preview functionality that comes with imagemagick.

If you have 4chan xt, you can then just drag and drop the file into the window.

>>107099171
Just buy a console or a steam deck. No one is pretending any of this is productive...

>>107099144
>>107099170
actually im using roboto medium for sans in .config/fontconfig/fonts.conf

you might have a config file overwriting xfce, might be from a previous de or something

no "night light". redshift sucks ass, it always errors looking for wayland and locality and has to be reset everytime you boot or even suspend.

>>107099170
>>107099248
That's strange/good to know. I was tweaking my desktop last night and tried fonts but the results were not that noticeable at all. I'm already using a custom faggot theme so maybe that's that.
I thought the main appearance font selection would always change something regardless of the gtk files but I guess not.

>>107099257
>wayland
>reset every time you boot
It's called a .conf and you add you lat/long. Imagine being this much of a retard and not removing geoclue. Also, you use wayland. Faggot.

>>107099266
i don't need a lat/long, i need one temp 24 hrs. gnome is just set temp and times once and done.

>>107099282
So why are you complaining, disabled, infantile, gnome-user?

xfce desktop still tears after all this time

Please, stick to ebussy's community of mouthbreathing pseuds if you can't figure out to edit a configuration file in XFCE...

>make a shitty de that requires pointless complexities to achieve simplicities
>lash out at users of the one built by the most competent devs that actually fuck the opposite sex

>>107099338
Stick to your tablet OS then...

>>107098241 (OP)
XFCE is pretty decent, but tilling window managers are superior in speed and workflow.

>>107098241 (OP)
jewduke hasn't made a video about it. i only use software that is advertised by jewduke.

>>107098241 (OP)
kde exists
/thread

>>107098241 (OP)
>have xfce running
>look at netstat
>it phones home to xfce2.xfce.org
>decide to never use it again, a desktop is a convenience not a necessity anyway
God I hate how open source shit is the biggest magnet for "DOOOD WHO CARES IF IT EXECUTES CODE ON YOUR COMPUTER LOL JUST TRUST IT" brainlets

kde is the best de

>>107098241 (OP)
why does your mother suck my cock?

>>107099295
I can think of four different solutions to your problem right now.

i tried it a few years back and it had a couple of annoying issues that were NOTABUG/WONTFIX.
in general, i realised don't care about DEs that much so i'm sticking with the distro's default. it does the job, which is launching programs and arranging windows.

>>107098241 (OP)
It's X11, so it shits itself on multiple monitors.

>>107100039
Based!
I also need to know if it's not antisemitic too!

>>107098241 (OP)
I wanted to but then they announced they are getting ready to sunset x11 session so fuck them.

If you can tell me how I get this color scheme in xfce, I’ll switch

>>107100422
https://www.xfce-look.org/browse?cat=138&ord=latest
>>107100408
Considering you can't even adjust your mouse sensitivity or desktop background in xfce wayland yet, that is a long way off

>>107098241 (OP)
because i have a 4k monitor

>>107098319
Can someone explain this as if you knew I was a retard?

>>107100505
It's like Microsoft

>>107098241 (OP)
Because I have to use a mouse to operate it

>>107100514
Are you saying XFCE builds don't have wayland? I'm really fucking retard, I know. Yes I'm so goddamn stupid.

>>107100596
Put the bottle down, and start browsing Linux threads for a couple of months

>>107098241 (OP)
Regex search in Thunar when?

>>107098241 (OP)
it can be easily tweaked into the platonic ideal of a desktop interface
too bad it (like cinnamon and mate) are chained to gnome's management of gtk
iirc the main reason xfce is trying to get wayland working is because gtk5 will delete all xorg support

>>107100629
I think you don't even know, anon. You didn't give me an answer. Ding dong diddly doh!

>>107098241 (OP)
>Why aren't you using the rat DE?
The DE has poor fractional scaling on my machine. I use KDE now. Worked well when I had an x220 and x230.

>>107099282
Try xsct. Its really simple to initialize and you can create a startup script if you want

>>107098241 (OP)
my hardware doesn't shit the bed if I use anything more resource intensive

>>107101339
My hardware ran battlefield 6 at 150 fps and I use xfce

>>107099282
You can very easily create a config for Redshift which completely skips geoclue and allows you to set a consistent 24hr temperature, not optimal but takes literally one minute

>>107098241 (OP)
Because it's X11 slop.

>>107098241 (OP)
I need less.

>>107098241 (OP)
GNOME is fast enough for a slowpoke like me on my old Debian machine

>>107098241 (OP)
i just remember not liking how it works and it making me mad. doesnt clicking the tab bar opem a new instance of the file each time

>>107101585
>doesnt clicking the tab bar opem a new instance of the file each time
What is a tab bar and how does it open files?

>>107098319
sure thing buddy, it was fine for 40 years but NOW it's a problem.

>>107098241 (OP)
Why aren't (You) using labwc? It does all that but comes with no apps at all, and it has Wayland support.

>>107098241 (OP)
i plan to, i personally that think out of the box mate has saner defaults and looks better but you'd compromise on customisability, i can make xfce looks and behave like mate. i also dislikes the amount necessary to get along on xfce, but it can be fixed with shortcuts.
>>107100063
any proofs beside you sole words, it claims to not have built in telemetry, could be an extension.
>>107100697
>iirc the main reason xfce is trying to get wayland working is because gtk5 will delete all xorg support
thats grim, will they ignore xlibre? a lot of people are using that rn, and they are still critised for abandoning gtk2 to this day, i wonder how gtk4 will work out on something that has changed very little since its conception.

>>107098241 (OP)
I do on my lappy but I always have issues on desktop with multiple monitors (unconventional aspect ratio which tbf only gnome doesnt fuck up)

the amout of clicks to get along ^

I use it and I couldn't be more satisfied.

>>107102097
Your fetch appears to be broken, it doesn't show your processor and graphics card.

>>107098241 (OP)
no wayland, looks like ass

WhonixOS switched to LXQt, since it has Wayland support.

LXQt looks as minimalistic and low on compute resources just as or even lesser than XFCE.

>>107101581
A FUCKING FOOT

>>107102097
yee-yee ahh debian logo

>>107098241 (OP)
I do and it just werks. Fuck gayland

>>107101427
you have autism. it is what it is

do you fags know of any good rat theme? preference for not flat slop.

>>107098241 (OP)
Why the fuck is there still no fractional scaling especially for laptops with high-DPI screens?

>>107102274
For me it's Greybird.

>>107098255
>no thumbnails in filepicker
retard
>>107099158
>Can you have large thumbnails
with the thumbnail patch yes, see picrel

I installed Manjaro Xfce last night but when I look it up, apparently Manjaro is bad. Is this true?

>>107101427
bf6 on Linux with their kernel level anticheat? idk anon that seems kind of farfetched

>>107102439
My computer has slots for multiple drives.

>>107102427
it's a meme from 2016
install a real OS and pick Xfce as the DE.

>>107099243
why would you buy a console cuckbox when you could get better hardware with it
switching between a DE takes less than a minute

I am using XFCE4.

>>107102132
he removed those from the config file

>>107102455
>install a real OS
you were almost helpful there anon
I can't find a legitimately good reason to distro hop again off of Manjaro

>>107098241 (OP)
Ugly, missing quality of life, not even the fastest desktop environment.

>>107102454
yeah and multiple operating systems
something tells me you won't be on Xfce (or any Linux DE) for very long, least of all somebody retarded enough to buy bf6 in the first place

>>107102493
Manjaro is a beta test for Arch, not meant to be used as a daily driver. Just like Fedora is a beta test for Redhat.

>>107102508
The open beta was free. I have been using linux for over 10 years.

>>107102493
it's jeetware
go to cachyos, endeavouros or base arch, they're all better

>>107102546
but when I look it up on w*kipedia it says this:
>Manjaro is developed mainly in Austria, France and Germany

>>107102427
Manjaro is kinda shit because it tends to break easily. if you want an Arch-based distro with an installer there's better choices like EndeavourOS (literally Arch with an installer and some minimal bloat OOB), CachyOS (packages better optimized for your CPU's supported instruction sets) or Artix (systemd-less)

>>107102546
CachyOS is just the latest Manjaro

>>107101339
I'm running xfce on a machine with a 5900X, 4080 Super and 128GB RAM

>>107102604
nobody can explain why Manjaro breaks though
what are you guys even doing on your machines?
I mean I'm a programmer and a gamer and whenever I install something anywhere it Just Werks™ (except Linux Mint with Gnome on my Nvidia system which had some nasty graphical glitches when I tried it)

>>107102632
>(except Linux Mint with Gnome on my Nvidia system which had some nasty graphical glitches when I tried it)
that's GNOME/Wayland's fault unironically

>>107098241 (OP)
I really like it but the start menu bugged out after changing themes, switched back to the default and it was still bugged. Reinstalled and it happened again, stopped using it atp, granted I probably fucked something up but it felt fragile how does a theme break the context menus permanently. This was like 10 years ago maybe it's better now

>>107098241 (OP)
i am tho

>>107098241 (OP)
having my fingers on the keyboard 90% of the time, like you do when using a tiling window manager feels beter to me.

>>107102427
>>107102493
>>107102602
>>107102632

I've been using Manjaro XFCE for 9 months, it's my first time using any Linux distro. So far, I've had no crash, nothing broken, nothing unsupported, it works fine and smooth and my hardware is ancient.

Forget what people say, it's _fine_.
If it works and you like it, disregard contrarian opinions.

>>107098241 (OP)
I am. For 15 years. And now I am too institutionalized to change

>>107103824
you'll need the mouse to interact with most of the software, if the argument is not using the mouse to interact with the DE, shortcuts remove that need, you can tile manually.

>>107102477
CUTE

>>107105191
why tile manually when I could do it automatically? so much more work.
I do use a mouse when I have to or when I play games but I can do most things in the terminal or without a mouse.
having to drag windows around all the time is anoying when 90% of the time I either want a pr0gram fullscreen or halfscreen.

>>107098241 (OP)
xfeces is no longer needed now that plasma (wayland) can run on my shitboxes with excellent responsiveness

windows won

finally, in my search this afternoon, i managed to find a good (non-flat) theme; it seems the mouse will continue to win.

>>107102274
https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95

xfeces has been slowly going the way of nu-gnome with its design choices. Inconsistent menus and UI, inconsistent icons (like tray icons being symbolic instead of using your icon theme), I even noticed recently that Thunar has rounded borders on icon highlight, which looks horrible.

I am.

>>107109912
>going the way of nu-gnome
use case for GNOMIFICATION?

>>107109912
I found this while trying to remove the corners myself. Good luck.
https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=79516#p79516

Switched from XFCE to KDE a fear years back due to XFCE's lack of resources for implementing wayland support.
The resource usage is pretty much identical, so I see no reason to go back.
Kinda wish I made the switch sooner.

>>107111576
>Kinda wish I made the switch sooner.
just like your gender, right?

>>107100505
>Can someone explain this as if you knew I was a retard?
Wayland is the new display system on loonix. On wayland only the focused/highlighted app can read your keystrokes. It's great for security, but this zero trust policy is also annoying for harmless stuff like global hotkeys, but they implemented portals where an app is strictly defined what I can and cannot do.

>>107104359
the "days since manjaro fucked up" site hasn't updated in years, they're probably fine nowadays honestly.

>>107098241 (OP)
I use it for a test box at the office. I like the little rat fella pretty good.

>>107098241 (OP)
I use windows

>>107098241 (OP)
>gtk slop
no I don't use kde

>>107098241 (OP)
because i fuck the legit opposite sex.

>>107098241 (OP)
Using XFCE presently. MATE is still good too btw. MATE + Thunar is good.

>>107109912
>I even noticed recently that Thunar has rounded borders on icon highlight, which looks horrible.
you are correct

>>107113203
the one thing I really like about MATE is that it's the single DE I know of that has a shortcut to switch to the last used workspace. got used to having that on WMs and no DEs aside from MATE have it without extensions and I find that insane. I also find it's lighter in general.

>>107108859
what theme

>>107113245
fired mate on a live, and genuinely, its defaults mogs xfce and any other DE out there, looks effortless fine too.
the downsides would include the lack of compatible custom themes and customisability.

>>107113301
I find most themes that worked on XFCE worked when I tried on MATE, but I mostly just use Bluecurve whenever I'm on it. I have yet to try more niche things like xfce-winxp-tc but I'm curious if it works.

>>107113431
>Bluecurve
nice theme

>>107113497
quite.

>>107101657
>a lot of people are using that rn
There's like 60 people using xlibre. What are you on about? No mainstream distro supports it at all. Additionally, there is no way GNOME idiots care about some fascist fork with incompetent devs.

>>107114190
Pathetic.

>>107102427
Manjaro is absolute trash. It's like all the bad parts of Arch without any of the good parts. And the bad parts are even worse because they arbitrarily hold upstream packages hostage for 2 weeks which can cause AUR packages to break. It's beyond retarded. People think manjaro is "arch with an easy GUI installer," but it's just a dogshit distro all around. Just use archinstall if you want an easy arch installation

>>107098241 (OP)
> But I am using XFCE

>>107113431
lucky you, i find out that OneStepBack doesnt work on mate, the other theme i have isnt maintained since '22 and it still works on mate but its a bit broken on xfce (that made me realise mate is slower than xfce on the development aspects), i couldnt find a way to make my window decorations work on mate as well too.
before that i thought every theme/w. decoration that was made to xfce worked on mate, but unfortunately its not the case.

I like XFCE. I am currently using KDE because it has more features, more development effort behind it, functional wayland. To be honest, I can't really go without some features on a modern desktop, which I don't know if I could get on XFCE or not because I don't have the time or patience to tinker. But I really like the idea of a fast simple no bloat desktop like XFCE. If KDE goes off the rails like Gnome did, and maybe even if they don't, I might switch some day.

>>107102097
>5 minutes

>>107098241 (OP)
>Why aren't you using the rat DE?
I need less. I enjoy using my WM alone. Nothing against the rat, most XFCE themes are very nice...

>>107115117
>I can't really go without some features
which ones you miss on xfce?

i want autistic shinies that only kde can offer

>>107114241
I'm on Manjaro XFCE since years and it just works, mostly I like that it has pamac as a package manager. No problem with archinstall but while it has plenty of packages available to be selected during installation it doesn't have pamac package. I like the idea of light distribution but not too light.

>>107104359
>>107111994
I hopped to plain Arch last night

>>107114241
you're the anon that convinced me >>107116903 btw so I just wanted to say thank you

>>107116675
>I like the idea of light distribution but not too light.
Exactly how I ended up on Manjaro. Never looked for anything else afterwards, it's perfectly balanced.

>>107116903
enjoy your choice

>>107116566
gay

>>107098241 (OP)
I am! It runs perfectly in Qubes OS dom0.

>>107116941
gimme the enbussy

>>107099164
use spacefm

who is agent task and why is he talking to the NSA behind my back? I'm concerned..

>>107115117
Please indulge me on memory usage. Initial memory usage on xfce vs kde.

>>107120613
Neither one is as good as a bare wm

>>107120622
I know, but I didn't ask this.

>>107098432
debian is total garbage

>>107113431
Don't see any reason why the GTK2/GTK3 themes shouldn't Just Werk, Window decs are XFWM4 only, not sure what would be involved in porting those over. The shell probably does work too, since it just uses the typical X11 struts API.

>>107099338
>Pro BLM devs
>Ever having sex
They're either watching or in ebassi's case looking at cheese pizza

>>107102546
>Cachyos
Uo oh i smell poo

>107120649
>refuses to elaborate
worthless opinion.

>>107098241 (OP)
200mb ram saving. From this vs cinnamon was not worth it for me

>>107122913
enjoy your JavaScript in your DE components, faggot

>>107098667
>>107098673

Disable the compositor. Solves 99% of gfx issues with xfce.

>>107098241 (OP)
>vs 300-500 milliseconds on KDE(AKA half a second)
I have seen Nautilus tale over 500ms to launch on Fedora. All that on a Samsung 850 whatever NVME SSD and a Core i5 12700K. Such a modern computer shouldnt be that slow at launching a file browser