Thread 107109380

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7600X
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut

>RAM
*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in flux
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

>>107109380 (OP)
How about you build my balls in your mouth

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=Power+Supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.phoronix.com/reviews/Storage (Linux performance)
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews
https://www.servethehome.com/category/storage/

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: Not usually a significant improvement over a 7800X3D in gaming
-3060: Contrast pricing with 2070 (similar performance, 8gb) and 2080ti
-7700: Region dependent, at ~$250+ you'd likely better served elsewhere
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, buy only if $350 is the absolute max budget and you can't consider used
-9070: Only worth considering if cheaper than the 5070
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op.

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>>107109388
i'll build in your ass if you don't watch your mouth

How does the ryzen 7 5700x hold up? found a good deal on it

>>107109459
not great compared x3d

>>107109459
its fine for most games assuming you're not aiming for super high refresh rates

>>107109396
>>RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch

>>107109459
Pretty okay all things considered, some ue5 games would be kind of cancerous but you could probably coast with it until new platforms or the start of the next console gen.

i have a ryzen 5 5600X with a RX 6600
which should i upgrade first? considering i'm not changing mother boards any time soon
also my monitor is still 1080 (albeit 2560x1080)
do i even need to change atm?

>>107109459
>How does the ryzen 7 5700x hold up? found a good deal on it
Starting to show it's age. Considering a far more powerful 14600K is ~$200, a fair price for it would be about $145 today.

>>107109486
youd be looking at 600€ for a am5 mobo, ddr5 ram (lmao prices), new cpu
+ 600€ for a better gpu

the gpu is by far the best upgrade now, look at 5070 or 5070 ti
then after that look at 1440p oled monitors, glossy tandem is best

>>107109500
https://www.displayninja.com/best-oled-monitor/ has the specific model names

>>107109486
I fully agree with >>107109500 & >>107109500 except I consider QD-OLED to still be both better performance and value atm if you have ambient lighting control. Your CPU should still be less bounding in games than that GPU.

>>107109486
gpu. Might as well just put off any cpu upgrade if you're not changing sockets + ddr5 pricing is fucked at the moment.
Missed the boat on am4 x3d

Has Arc Celestial dropped yet? It's rumored to be 2x as good as the rtx 5090 super.

>>107109486
>also my monitor is still 1080 (albeit 2560x1080)
If it's been like 5+ years sure
Specs that were ultra expensive at that time now come super cheap

>>107109526
you forgot your meds anon

>>107109511
reason Id say tandem oled is good is how it should have less brightness limiting when you use it normally
the qd oled still has way better color volume but it might not be noticeable in most content

>>107109500
>>107109511
i'm brazilian so i cant afford all those things haha
only one upgrade at a time
i use linux, so i'd rather stay in a full amd environment for compability (and also prices)
i've found a RX 9060 XT relatively not too expensive just north of 500usd (for reference i make a little under 400usd a month)
the cheapest 5070 in comparison is 760usd

>>107109534
oh I have "buy gold chain" on the calendar.

>>107109544
Are you experiencing low framerates with your 6600 with the gpu at 99-100% load?

>>107109524
>Missed the boat on am4 x3d
yeah, i only just found out about it.
i built my pc in feb 2022 and never looked to upgrade until now.
>>107109528
i got it around late 2022, its a nice big ultrawide. for me its more about the size of the screen than actual resolutiono so its probably gonna be the last thing i ever change

>>107109544
5070 is likely the best option
its more powerful, relatively cost effective and will work better at 1440p for the future
dlss has wider support than fsr

so pirate windows and buy 5070 even if you have to save a bit, the cost difference vs 9060 is worth

>>107109574
Multiply your monthly income with 2 and think whether you should spend it on a 12 GB gpu. The answer is NO.

>>107109562
i get about 50fps on elden ring, and between 30~40 on HD2 on medium settings unless i use scaling
i can only play cb77 on medium on low, don't remember fps
i can't say the load on the gpu as i don't think i ever bothered checking, but i do remember that it got really hot sometimes, like 90ºC
maybe another factor for me is how much power is it gonna draw compared to the 6600, because electricy bills are really expensive in the country right now

>>107109582
you'll be running most games at balanced transformer model dlss
the extra vram of 9060 doesnt make your gaming experience better with worse fps, and not having fsr4 is a not of games + all the other software benefits nvidia has

>>107109596
You are stupid.

>>107109606
how are you gonna buy an oled monitor with amd gpu
you wont have video hdr

>>107109613
What are you talking about?
Would you spend double your monthly income on a video game toy, yes or no?

>>107109620
the price difference between 9060 xt and 5070 in brazil is apparenly like 20%?

>>107109631
>500usd (for reference i make a little under 400usd a month)
>the cheapest 5070 in comparison is 760usd
That's 50%.
Didn't make it to sixth grade yet Nvidiaboy?

>>107109642
>i've found a RX 9060 XT relatively not too expensive just north of 500usd

kys

>>107109537
Fair. I'm just personally biased toward critical viewing.

>>107109593
>>107109544
I would hold out for a 9070 (doesn't have to be the XT version). There's a lot of unreasonably expesnive-midrange slop cards that it sits with, while the 9070 is more than twice as powerful.

>>107109593
Use upscaling, don't waste so much money on a low end card

>>107109644
anon lives in brazil
they don't get market prices like us or europe

>>107109574
At least one of those prices is hiding a crack pipe.

moral of the thread so far: don't be brazilian

>>107109574
also, you actually want to calculate your own personal uplift.

$ per uplift frame = prospective_cards_price/(prospective_cards_fps - myfps)

This is why actually the "best value" is a garbage value, maybe, FOR YOU.

>>107109680
I disagree, I think you should always wear flip flops and keep a glock in your underwear.

>>107109544
>(for reference i make a little under 400usd a month)
Jesus christ

>>107109690
>glock in your underwear
Front or back?

>>107109544
>>107109593
Keep saving, if you go for a budget gpu it will last you 3 year max but if you spend a little bit more you'll get something that can last you up to 7, specially if you can hold on until the next gen as new consoles will be out so they'll be significantly more future proof than current hardware

>>107109574
>First gpu with no major strings attached or a made up price is the 5070
Nvidia bros we fucking won
>>107109699
In the front with my team-red clitty uwu

>>107109644
>>107109672
>>107109677
we have 92% tax on all imported goods (of any kind) plus a load of other taxes on tech goods
thats why its so expensive
>>107109693
sigh... yeah...

>>107109725
do people routinely get someone to ship them goods bypassing the taxes

>>107109733
not that i know of
maybe rich people who know people who can afford to travel

>>107109777
I mean you just need a guy abroad buy the thing, then package it as normal postage to you.
what are the customs gonna do about it?

>>107109785
you would still got to pay tax on those. everything is retained by the government and only released after they checked the goods and the receiver has payed any taxes they deem to be owned on it, even if it is a "personal package" like a gift instead of a purchase

the ram sticks I bought for my PC last month doubled in price what the helly

>>107109794
line going up for stupid bullshit must go on, please understand
Updoots to the left :)

>>107109791
but the guy buying it abroad paid tax already
you cant tax stuff twice

>>107109816
>you cant tax stuff twice
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
try telling that to the brazilian goverment lmao
for example, every year a car owner must pay tax on it, 4% of the total value of a brand new of the same model. thing is, that price already has over 60% tax on it, so you're paying taxes over tax you have already payed when you bought it

this is listed as a sata ssd but looks like an nvme
does this connect directly to the sada port, like an usb?

>>107109877
No. It connects to the m.2 port but it uses sata not pcie

>>107109877
i think there's some sort of confusion between what a sata and nvme is
m.2

basically the form factor is different to the type of interface.
https://www.kingston.com/en/blog/pc-performance/two-types-m2-vs-ssd

>>107109891
>>107109892
ah, i see
i thought nvme and sata were like hdmi, vga, usb, you knot, port types

>>107109905
easy mistake to make
i never bothered finding out about it until i upgraded my 10 year old pc

>>107109816
Taxes aren't real anyway.

>>107109916
is this a good ssd for my pc then?
https://americas.lexar.com/product/ssd-ns100/
i already have an nvme, i need extra storage and my mb only has 1 nvme slot so i gotta get a sata ssd
i'm not even sure if this is a mb ssd or a portable one desu

Not sure if anyone remembers but I’m the anon who was having trouble with his 4070ti running hot as fuck and the fans were ramping up to 100% no matter how many fans I added and I even bought a new case to see if it would help.

I finally fixed the issue.
Undervolting the GPU and now every game runs fine without DLSS and with high frame rates.
Something so simple.

I still have time to return this new case I bought - with the only reason not to is because I have my AIO radiator mounted to the top of my case which allows for the front of my case to have 3 fans.
Radiator used to be mounted at the front of my old case with tubes at the top (I’ve been told this is bad).

Is this reason alone worth keeping this case? Putting everything back into the old case will for sure suck but it is what it is. If it matters, the case was $79

>cancel directv
>they tell me to throw away all receivers
>open receiver
>2TB HDD inside

I’ve been using this equipment for around 7+ years. If I decide to save a bunch of movies on this drive, what are the chances it stops working within the next decade?

>>107109945
>and now every game runs fine without DLSS and with high frame rates.
Look at this man
He boughted a 4070 Ti
And he is happy with 60

>>107109968
you should use it to run your pacemaker.

>>107109971
What an empty response to fulfill the narrative in your head LOL

is the 7900 xtx still worth it?

>>107110023
Worth what? $450 used?

>>107110032
like $900 new?

>>107110036
No

>AMD dropping support for RDNA 1 and 2
>AMD announcing new GPU architecture for the future thus declaring their current GPU line abandonware
>AMD announcing new CPU with extra 3D cache for next year
>intel and Nvidia becoming friends and building new great things together
>Intel announcing new CPU architecture and platform for next year
>Nvidia Super series releasing next fall
>ram prices skyrocketing
>ssd prices skyrocketing
>new hardware on Linux being still bad
There has never been a better time than this for waiting to build a new desktop PC. I'm glad I haven't pulled the trigger for new hardware yet.

>>107109936
it looks like it's an internal one, it looks like it needs a sata cable and power cable from your PSU. external drives usually plug in through USB.
I don't know, I've never heard of Lexar before. I'm usually just a WD guy

>>107110052
Is there a 2025 release worth buying? anything with 3d at all, don't care what it is.

>>107109486
wtf
nino?

>>107110097
?

>>107110177
dayag

>>107109475
Yeah....october of 2026

>>107110309
Intel Arc Celestial C770 with 1tb of vram.

Friendly reminder I'm very happy with my m27p6 purchase.

>>107110364
Intel Arc Celestial C990 with 4tb hbm4 vram and 32768 cuda cores

>>107110405
>mere cuda cores when you can have exuda cores

>>107110400
why would anyone buy a monitor they're not happy with

>GPU undervolt is completely stable in all cases except very occasionally BF6 and Arc Raiders
Literally why

>>107110472
It's protecting you.

>>107110449
Because they're oled cuck?

>>107110472
turn off global illumination

>>107110534
Already did, mostly because GI looks worse than 'static' in shart raiders for some reason

i have 3x 8 GB RAMs and 1x 16GB RAM:
which slot sockets should I put them to?

>>107110540
doesn't really matter

>>107110540
LOL bricked setup

explain to me what the gayman screens in the OP bring more than a cheap screen with the same main (resolution, refresh rate, hdr) specs

>>107110540
AM5? You cooked? What platform though? Just sell the extra sticks and get the ones you want.

>>107110607
cheap IPS likely perform very similarly to each other
then minileds have backlight zones that make hdr easier to accomplish and OLEDs have 0.1ms pixel response times and each pixel is controlled individually which gives you best hdr experience

>>107110607
Nothing, if the panel is the panel is the same IPS in both cases, enjoy your cheaper monitor and let the pay pigs pay for their brands. If one is Oled and the one you are looking at is VA or IPS, the branded one is better.

>>107109380 (OP)
>Provide specific use cases
Gaming. Maybe AI slop.
>State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped
Budget: between $1500 and $2500 max;
Country: Poland.

>>107109613
The fuck are you talking about, Any GPU can play HDR videos.
Or are you unironically suggesting adding fake colours hallucinated by AI to normal SDR videos?

>>107110919
if you keep monitor on hdr mode 24/7 its an issue
the rtx HDR makes vids look better if they're sdr

>>107109968
If it's a DVR/CCTV type of HDDs those usually have TLER=0 meaning if there is any weak sector they instantly give up and skip the sector as bad.
Normal desktop drives can retry one weak sector for up to 30 seconds, often successfully recovering the data.
However I have no idea how often that type of read error can occur.

>>107110052
>AMD dropping support for RDNA 1 and 2
Clickbait title.
Maintenance support means devs make new shit for current gen and if it can be painlessly ported to RDNA2 it will be ported.
Nvidia does this with all their current-1 gen GPUs all the time, they just don't make special announcements.

>>107110888
See if you like this: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/ym7hVF

>>107110449
I've been buying monitors, trying them for a month and selling again just to return to my ancient CCFL IPS because every desktop monitor sucks
Only worthy upgrade was OLED TV

>>107110052
>>>new hardware on Linux being still bad
Is hardware really bad on Linux? Is Linux good with high end hardware? I only hear it being used for low end desktops, SBCs, or then at the other end literal Supercomputers.

What about people with overkill builds?

>>107110943
So RTX HDR makes SDR video in HDR windws mode look almost as good as SDR video in SDR windows mode in full gamut monitor mode?
Why even run HDR mode in the first place? it still makes the rest of the desktop apps look like shit.

>>107110888
We don't have a good price comparison site for Poland so advice will be more general i.e. no optimisation on the commodity components. With that in mind this would be a good starting point:
>CPU
7800X3D or 9800X3D depending on pricing/budget. Could go 265K if you do (paid) multicore work too.
>Cooler
Dual tower air; PA/PS120 or similar. 280/360mm AIO if you want super-quiet operation.
>Mobo
Always a personal choice but a B850 in the $150 (600zl?) region should be a good starting point. Avoid ASrock for X3D chips.
>RAM
Cheapest 2x16GB 6000-30-36-36 you can find. Try not to cry.
>SSD
2TB PCIe4 HMB. Again go by price.
>Card
5070Ti is probably the best you can afford with this budget. The 5080 isn't a big step up but could be viable depending on local markets. A used 4090 might be possible at the upper range of your budget
>Case
Again a more personal choice. Obviously you'll want a full mesh front but the aesthetics are up to you.
>PSU
750W/850W ATX3.1 Gold+ efficiency. Another commodity component with big regional price variation.

Example build (US pricing):
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q8xYMC

Bought the cheapest cl30 ram that showed up on amazon due to fomo. Turns out its cl28 6000 at 1.4v and may be dual rank 2x16gb (didn't even know that existed below 2x32). Hope my motherboard and cpu can handle it.

>>107111067
What is there to handle, you got lucky you bastard.

2nd monitor on the left or the right /pcbg/? For me it's gotta be right, even though my dominant eye is my left one it still feels more natural on the right

>>107111045
NTA, what in the actual fuck? RAM prices have doubled?

>>107111067
I got cl36 for cheaper because this whole thing is a joke

>>107111067
AFAIK nobody makes 8Gb DDR5 ICs so dual rank is highly unlikely. It wouldn't even be desirable if it were tbf.

>>107111082
Yup. Allegedly the big 3 are reducing output in favour of HBM for datacentre cards.

>>107111094
That's what I thought so as well.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/klevv-fit-v-ddr5-6000-32-gb-cl32/3.html
But apparently they exist.

M.2 PCIe 5.0 X2 or M.2 PCIe 4.0 X4?

>>107111169
It doesn't matter for consumer client use. Pick whatever is cheapest.

>>107111094
Those exist. They can firmware lock 16gbit modules to 8gbit enabled

>>107110888
Im a pcpartpicker monkey and since poland isn't there can't really give you a concrete list but >>107111045
that list of recommendations is solid to use when checking with your retailers.
If you can order from amazon (germany?) could give you a more concise list, but if you follow that post you can't go wrong.

I have a 6600xt and looking to buy a used gpu for an upgrade with around $300 or so budget. And I've been eyeing a 10gb 3080 for gaming and blender. Would that be a good enough upgrade?

Also stuck with a 5600g cpu

Got this before the price hikes in Romania. While it was shipping, the prices started rising

>>107111292
it'd be an OK upgrade but used 3080's are 5y old now and its a bit risky from age perspective + its not great perf per watt unit compared to tsmc 4nm gpus

Id look at used 4070 type gpus, new 5070 for a decent upgrade that will work for the future, $300 is absolute low end for todays gpu market and doesnt buy you anything good.

>>107111323
Buyfags keep winning

>>107111023
>>107110943
RTX HDR requires Windows HDR to be on. Its converts SDR 8bit to 10bit. It's a hack for Nvidia because they suck at real HDR compared to Intel or AMD. Not everyone talks about it because real HDR isnt for poorfags you need at minimum a $600 display and fags here don't want to spend more than $200-300 on their 1440p shit.

>>107111330
I'll buyfag some more on black friday (this week here), it's the last good time to build a pc before the ram shortage also affects gpus and ssds

>>107109613
You stupid? Nvidia has garbage HDR compared to AMD.

>>107111345
Can it expand gamut of any desktop application or just video player using hardware decoder and overlay?

>>107111357
how so

>>107111292
For $300 that is the best you are going to get

>Prices of RAM are all rising.
>Most shit is out of stock.
>Best deal I can find is £250 for 96GB (2x48) of Corsair Vengeance.
Whatever, fuck it.

>>107111324
>>107111368
I'm pretty close to affording the 3080, and anything else is gonna take me at least half a year at best with my budget so I might settle with the 3080 and just sell it later on if my money situation gets better
>>107111376
What even happened with ram for it to skyrocket? Are we in some sort of drought similar to the COVID era when gpu's were stupid expensive?

>>107111364
he's making it up, HDR sucks on windows period on either vendor and needs software to make up for it, but RTX HDR generally does a better job than AMDs solution

Yeah Nvidia HDR is broken on Linux and Windows and doesn't even support Mac.....

>>107111359
It's just a desktop filter like Reshade/MadVR that does color hacks.

>>107111364
Nvidia drivers spazz the fuck out in multiple HDR scenarios. Sometimes it's fine for games, other times it's broken as shit like not working unless in exclusive fullscreen (which isn't a thing in DX12 games) or you fuck up your media player you don't need to these on AMD.

>>107111399
the ram cartel did the same thing about 7? years ago, 16 GB of ram was $200 or something

>on Linux and Windows
i can spot nicotroon anywhere

what are the rules for combining ram sticks?
is it fine as long they're the same frequency and CL or does brand play a difference?

>>107111345
AMD doesn't have a graphics card powerful enough to adequately support the top HDR monitors

I've bought all components except the GPU and CPU. Will prices of those increase? Looking for 9800X3D and 5090 or 5070Ti (or possibly waiting for 5070 Ti Super)

>>107111400
>>107111427
No you're making shit up stupid fuck. It's widely known that Nvidia has broken drivers and fucked up HDR. Their new display controller fucked up everything since Blackwell. Nobody is buying Ada in 2025 or talking about last 1-5+ years ago drivers it's all about today's date post your HDR signal on your display with today's date 11/5/2025.
>>107111364
>>107111420
>>107111433
Nvidia drivers are broken you old as fuck donkeys where have you been https://youtu.be/NTXoUsdSAnA
Still not fixed you can't post fix (which is switch out Nvidia GPU)

>>107111421
If you want to push all the limits of your system sometimes even same brand sticks with same brand chips from different revisions / factories will be your bottleneck

attempting to use HDR on a 9070XT is fucking horrific, every game looks insanely washed out and ugly and half the time it blacksceens
switched to a 5070ti and it runs and looks much better

>>107111444
>nicotroon instantly outs himself by linking to the same video and sperging
LOL

attempting to use HDR on a 5070ti is fucking horrific, every game looks insanely washed out compressed and ugly and half the time it blacksceens
switched to a 9070xt and it runs and looks much better real 10 bit

>>107111449
Yeah nah
>>107111457
Yeah hah

>>107111433
nigga you'll be lucky if you can find anything this time next month we're heading down a 2020 style shortage

>>107111444
nicotroon, your clitty is leaking

>>107111364
Nvidia drivers shit the bed at HDR don't listen to others its the reason I got rid of my 5080 can't power my LG C1 properly

nicotroons problem is that he's too much of a sperg, he can't stop himself from spamming and instantly outing himself, very sad loser

yeah i don't believe anyone here has a HDR monitor and I don't believe anyone buys HDR monitors TVs sure monitors never

>>107111449
>>107111457
>every game looks insanely washed out and ugly
That's supposedly "correct" SRGB mapping for SDR content on HDR display.
Because back in1996 HP and Microsoft said picrel "ought to be enough for anybody"
>and half the time it blacksceens
Disable MPO and blame once again blame MS

>>107111470
See, your colors looked all fucked up. Grey is supposed to be grey like OLED grey not dithered black.

>>107109380 (OP)
>gaming
any x3d cpus
>budget
-F intel or 7500F
>workstation
used xeon from chink

fixed that for you

>>107111494
every HDR screenshot is fucked up because HDR compensation isn't perfect, you'd know this if you had an HDR monitor

>>107111470
Anon your image is overexposed as fuck Nvidia can't into proper HDR.

>>107111488
See that niggas image up there that's wrong HDR.

>>107111509
Real Proper HDR isn't supposed to distort colors to the point dithering which your image is doing. That's what you call "compressing colors". Or Nvidias dogshit HDR implementation. It looks wrong at all times. Just like Nvidia drivers are broken and wrong at tweaks.

>>107111506
You're acting like games don't turn on with normal cpus.

>>107111509
nvidia app and microsoft game bar both take jxr screenshots in hdr mode
they look fine when viewed in photos app on hdr display

Lmao people gloating about owning broken Windows Nvidia software and wrong calibrated display

>>107111421
As identical as possible.
You can get away with some mixing. But, if you're using mixed frequencies, it'll run at the lowest frequency (Or only at 4800MHz) and I think with latency it'll run at the highest latency. Or some "Safe" setting. Or else be unstable.

Generally just get the exact same fucking kit and don't mix it, it's not worth the hassle.

>>107111531
buy 5700x3d in that case
or just dont games at all?

>>107111364
The HDR on Nvidia literally looks wrong and stupid. For real HDR look at Steam Deck OLED or PS5 both use AMD.

>>107111488
So can we like make the R, G, & Bs of RGB more R(er), G(er), and B(er) than back in the 90s now?

>>107111549
steam deck OLED looks worse than my NVIDIA PC HDR

>>107111549
>STEAM DECK
>good visuals

lol AMDrones are demented

The HAF has arrived by courier this morning, this case is ABSOLUTELY HUGE.

>>107111577
Nostalgia of my 10 year old HAF X build unlocked

>>107111399
Ram orders are overbooked until the end of 2026 and ram vendors are raising prices in anticipation of a shortage

this is like the "radeon colors are better" debunked cope

>>107109722
What? Instead of new fabs, we get this gay ass shit? Micron too?

>>107111548
>buy $300 cpu that's slower than $150 cpus
Sure buddy

>>107111606
>radeon colors are better
Now hold on, I remember one time my 290X outputting 10bpc color while my xx60 would only do 8bpc, there might have been something to that at one point no?

>>107111565
Yes most modern consumer displays are somewhere between ARGB and P3 thus they can display more intense, more saturated colors than 1996 "typical home and office viewing conditions" meaning bottom of the barrel consumer TVs which were the basis for SRGB.
Using clamped SRGB makes sense for content that was specifically produced FOR SRGB. That's why old movies can look unnatural on new TVs.
But for software, websites, anime, games etc there is no photorealistic baseline and most of the time washed out colors feel subjectively worse than full gamut.

>>107111622
maybe 15 years ago but they act completely the same now, it's just a schizophrenic asspull because radeon loses on real performance and real features

>>107111606
its never been debunked
amd has better colors

>>107111634
AMD has worse colors, worse HDR, worse performance, worse productivity performance, worse sales, worse market share, worse human beings using their products

>>107111589
It should be a used 932 Advanced in this box. I have never seen a full tower before somehow, so this will be interesting before I decide whether to paint it or mod it.

>>107111650
Worse brand name too "Radeon" imagine naming your product after Radon/Radium decay which causes cancer lol
GeForce destroys it easily

>>107111626
>But for software, websites, anime, games etc there is no photorealistic baseline and most of the time washed out colors feel subjectively worse than full gamut.
Oh I see. What about game and anime that were made back in the sRGB-era and get remastered now. Are the colors just locked-in to what they were then, or does the newer colorspace standards available make them any better?

>>107111665
POOdeon POODNA is literally designed in india LOL

>>107111143
>>107111229
That is damned weird. Maybe it's like when Micron downsampled 16Gb Rev. B to 8Gb for their Ballistix Max kits.

i see the president has equipped his daughter with ballistix

>>107111668
SDR content by itself merely exists as abstract 0-255 scale and it's up to hardware manufacturers and end users (meaning both content creators and consumers) to communicate what should be the correct absolute color mapping and set it manually.
Certain SDR applications like photo editors can provide alternative color mapping data to OS but most just default to SRGB.

The Nvidia shills are strong, I have opted to use a GTX 780 in my FX-8350 build.

Before this discussion whenever i read the word "gamut" i thought it was one of you using some word for vydia like gayming or whatever that i was too old to unnderstamd

>>107109380 (OP)
>990 Pro (Windows)
Samsung SSDs are not good on Linux?

Anyone know how the Silverstone FM121 fans are? They're a pretty old design, but just looking at the specs, they seem reasonably quiet if you need high pressure and don't want to blow $40 a pop on T30s.

>>107111887
Have you looked at arctic? They have been the meta.

>>107111851
I think OP doesn't realize you can update Samsung firmware from a bootable .iso, you do not need Samsung Magician software
https://semiconductor.samsung.com/consumer-storage/support/tools/

>>107110996
>>107111045
>>107111258
Thanks! Will check local availability

>>107111931
Max CFM's too low. I assume people shill them because of the price and sound profile, but Thermalright's are about the same.

>>107112010
I doubt anyone with modern-standard testing apparatus has benched them so we'd be flying pretty blind. Are you looking at some new old stock or used FM121s for cheap? Also, do you care about noise at all? Because those Silverstones likely get their good SP by spinning to 2400RPM as opposed to the ~1500 of mainstream modern case fans.

>>107111954
The issue isn't the upgradeability of the firmware on Linux.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106011672/#106018430
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106011672/#106020532

>>107112053
>Outdated!
It isn't.
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106904765/#106912639
https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/106904765/#106912701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA-R1FabTDY&t=949s

>>107109380 (OP)
>just another day of owning a 5090

>>107112083
maybe don’t run your 600w card at 1150w

>>107111887
Arctic P14 Pro PST are great static pressure fans, but do not expect to run them at high RPM (too noisy).
These 31dB noise normalized results (on thick radiator) aren't running the fans near max RPM.
https://www.hwcooling.net/en/thermalright-tl-b14-in-a-wide-comparison-of-140-mm-fans-review/20/

>>107112087
maybe just don't buy a 600w card*

>>107109396
>107109396
10k command center

>>107112053
Got it. I'll just get an SN8100.

Is something like this ok for a secondary drive?

>>107112120
>10k and its not even a 5090 astral

>>107112051
That's more or less what I was worried about too. Unfortunately, everything else cheap and 120mm are thick server-grade parts, so I might as well test them.

>buying table
>height adjustable electric adds 230€
is there any reason to buy non electric

I can just imagine the scenario

>Oh wait let me adjust table a bit
>Remove everything from table
>find screws at legs or flip entire table upside down
>screw out screws
>put into new spot
>screw back
>put everything back on table
>now we ready to continue

on the contrary
>buy electric
>adjust once
>maybe never adjust again

>fomo

>>107112156
I believe they come with a crank. So you will have to do manual labor to raise or lower your desk.

>>107112083
i used my THREE THOUSAND card for too long and it burned, it was my fault that i used the product i paid for
I apologize to nvidia and hensen, it was my fault, im so sorry, i will strive to be better

>>107112096
but no other card has acceptable performance

>>107112156
electronic standing desks are for occasionally switchig between standing and sitting

>>107112183
you need to shunt mod or use a modded vbios to run this card at 1150w, how is that NVIDIA’s fault?

>>107112183
>He doesn't have 10 spare connectors lying around
What a noob. Literally unworthy of buying a 5090

>>107112133
absolutely not, thats dogshit. Get a mx500: refer to this: https://ssd.borecraft.com/SSD_Buying_Guide.svg

>>107112183
The world is made by millionaires and billionaires for millionaires and billionaires.
If it catches fire you're expected to toss your system and order a new one with only mild annoyance. Same day delivery.

>>107112145
Yeah if you have them on hand you might as well. Frankly that's the only way to know for sure because it's so easy to fudge noise/airflow tests. >>107112089 has some good suggestions. I'd also add Noctua's IndustrialPPC models if you're looking for something similar to the T30s (semipro/home server where moderate noise isn't a dealbreaker but 6kRPM Deltas are too much).

You remember those poor fuckers who had their GPUs get melted by the queue for fucking New World?
Imagine getting a 3090 or whatever and a 5/10 MMO destroys it before you even get to play the game.

>>107112220
that problem is fixed because nvidia made the connector act as a fuse and blow itself out before the vrms can fail

>>107112133
anything is sfine as a secondary drive
just make sure you have the data you care about backed up
if it's data that can easily be redownloaded again it's not so critical
just make sure you know youtube is not a backup and they are deleting shit like crazy off it now

>>107112220
this still happens when people disable vsync in diablo 4.

>>107112246
This game is known to have memory leak issues.
The most common advice (still shared in 2025) is to restart the game after a while.
NVIDIA obsessed nicotroon shitposting in the early hours. GeForce is rent-free in your head.

A word of caution to prospective Radeon customers, you might turn out like this degen.

>>107109380 (OP)
>KTC M27T6 (miniLED)
Why this instead of AOC ?

>>107112170
there is one ikea desk like that but I'm talking about other ones you have to move the notches in the legs and so on
idk
I might just buy the electric and call it a day
feels like I don't need it though

>>107112194
yeah but you also get the benefit of adjusting it sitting without major work done like I said
worth it? idk

>>107112246
this was me on the beta on bad wifi

>>107112599
How often do you expect to do minor adjustments to your desk?
I just bolted a door on top of a pair of those ikea meme drawers - perfect desk for under $200 total.

>>107112591
AOC's newer 27" 1440p VA monitor with 1152 local dimming zones has QC issues (some units are buggy when enabling the best local dimming option with HDR enabled).
There are not enough reviews for the newer 240Hz AOC miniLED (Q27G4ZMN), and it would probably cost more than the M27T6.

Q27G3XMN has 336 local dimming zones by comparison.

>>107112628
>How often do you expect to do minor adjustments to your desk?
not often I would assume but the difference is +230 for the electric frame

>I just bolted a door
kek, I heard about kitchen counter slabs of wood but not a door

>on top of a pair of those ikea meme drawers
alex drawers yea

>perfect desk for under $200 total.
two negatives, the height of those are too high (inb4 manlet)
the kitchen counters people use are not deep enough by default, you can fully custom order a top that is larger if you want from ikea but refer to point 1 again

>>107112671
>the kitchen counters people use are not deep enough by default
That's why people recommend old doors instead - cheap, sturdy, and deep.

>>107112727
no idea where I would get a fucking door
but if you really want you can get a 246cm kitchen table top they are 63cm deep too but I want 80cm
you can probably just put it ontop of alex drawers with some anti slip surfaces between without even bolting it on and it would be fine

Is Astral 5090 worth the premium?
I can get 5090 now but I am not sure buying the low end one on this dangerous card or paying for premium model is more sound.

>>107112792
Astral has a lazy attempt to fix it, but it doesn't fix it. So IMO no. Either way, just choose a brand that honors warranty.

i bought a DRR5 32gb 5600 mhz and 36 cas single stick for $100 the other day but it still has not arrived what are the odds the retailers realize they sold it too cheap and doesnt send it to me

I have a 7700XT that I bought 1.5 years ago. Now I get black squares randomly in games and video playback for 2 seconds and then they disappear - can it be a software issue?
What do I do about it?

>>107112792
Just wait™ around 2 years for the 6090 at this point.

>>107112816
Reinstall drivers, get the latest version.

would you a P510 or a T500/850X/980 Pro? all in 2TB flavour, main system drive with games installed and on a PCIe Gen 5x4 slot

>>107112816
never buy amd again

>>107112727
two alex drawers white + karlby top + some anti slip door mat material = almost as much as a 160 non electric idåsen
30€ cheaper in total
246cm wide vs 160cm wide
180cm effective leg space inside with alex drawers
I'm using the same height desk now but a low chair so just slight too high
works but yeah deeper desk is half the point also

>>107112824
>Implying they won't got for 700W for 6090.
I have waited since 3090 started this bullshit powerdraw. It's time to retire my 1080ti now.

>>107112850
Can drivers really cause artifacts

>>107112816
>can it be a software issue
yes, have you tried disabling MPO?
every type of artifacts, noise, black screen can be caused by MPO among other possible sources.

>>107112792
If you are looking to resell it for a 6090 then sure, astral will be easier to sell

>>107112859
I'd pick crucial, wd first, then literally any other brand over smasnug. Smasnug has lost trust when it comes to consumer drives for me.

https://videocardz.com/newz/new-amd-ryzen-7-9700x3d-8-core-3d-v-cache-cpu-spotted-on-passmark
Guess AMD has finally stockpiled enough worst-binned chips so a 9700X3D is on the way.

>>107112859
So mine is SN8100, T710, T700. Gen5 is sometimes even cheaper then gen 4 drives. Literally, SN8100 is cheaper than sn850x, so I'd pick gen5 drive.

Is going 27in 165hz 2540x1440 -> 34in 165hz 3440x1440 worth it

>>107112908
the P510 and the T500 are both crucial (my personal choice also)

The P510 is a DRAMless Gen 5 but overall perf isn't as good as the T500 for mixed usage (pic attached)
>>107112935
The SN8100 is a monster wtf but it's also almost 50% more expensive and I'm not sure i need the perf

>>107112932
im assuming those are failed 9850x3d
more choices is always good but im not sure of the niche it would cover
7800 to 9800 is like 75$ difference, would this be somewhat in the middle? i dont see the point

>>107112814
I bought 64 gigs cl-c30 for 250 bux
it took a week to arrive, because for some funkey reason it was send from the UK to me.

Is a Phantom Spirit 120SE good enough for a 9800X3D?
I’m not planning on doing any crazy shit just normal stuff

>>107113163
yes

Currently on a 5060x and a 3060TI
Best thing i can do for me is getting a 1440p monitor right?
My current monitor is 1980x1200 @59hz
I understand that the 3060TI will not be moving modern games at 2k max settings 150hz etc but it should handle lower end games at 2k fine and maybe higher demanding games with settings in mid or whatever?
Then just keep putting pennies on the piggy bank until i can upgrade the GPU? And even furhter down the road a new am5 that i would transfer the aforementioned gpu to?

>>107113171
get a cheap 1440p high refresh and then GPU upgrade

>>107113163
i can guarantee you that you can find a thousand rigs with that exact combo in the internet with people posting their experience
not even trying to be an asshole or anything
it sounds fine, but those arent some dark components, you can get real info from people using them

>>107113171
Set the global toggle for updating dlss to latest and watch vram usage. You aren't that far off from something like the 9060xt

>>107113177
Yeah i was just looking for the reassurance that im not just burning the money.
My monitor is also like 7 or 8 years old, i bet even at the same resolution and refresh a modern monitor will be clearer and brighter with better colors

Don't tell me the 265k is selling... where the hell are the sales? I want to pick one up this november and was expecting massive mark downs to clear inventory before the arrow lake refresh.

>>107112375
>shitposting in the early hours
To be fair it's much later in mumbai where is based

>>107113171
there is literal 0 downside to 4k
except price maybe but they are cheap now
people gonna be stuck in the native res meme forever

>>107109380 (OP)
>I dont know what this is
One of the first revisions of HAF 932, great cases.

>>107113213
>Set the global toggle for updating dlss to latest and watch vram usage. You aren't that far off from something like the 9060xt
To be fair part of the issue is that... come closer i dont want nicotroon to hear this, im having crashes that in the windows event viewer all end up pointing towards the driver controller
I have done everything i have ever found online about it but in most games i end up having to face crashes now and then
So im itching to actually get a new card and hope those go away, even if i currently dont need it, and obviously if i pick a new monitor i would like to be able to push it a bit on 2k and the 3060TI probably will end up falling short

>>107113170
>>107113181
Alright thanks anons

>>107113253
As in picking a 4k capable monitor even if then play at 2k?
I get that but my case is literally about budget, at a similar enough price point i'll happily pick a 4k monitor, im just tempering my expectations as any cash i can save from the monitor is cash i can put towards updating the gpu.
I appreciate the sentiment anon... but i dont think thats my case

>>107109380 (OP)
>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
I never updated the firmware of any 2,5" ssd or nmve
how fucked am I?

>>107113298
Fine so long it's not a new samsung one

>>107113298
There was a case a year back where there was a bad firmware on some ssds

>>107113284
>picking a 4k capable monitor even if then play at 2k
don't do that it looks terrible and burry

?????What does this even mean?????

>>107113332
Dude my electric toothbrush had a "Powered by AI" sticker in the box

>>107113332
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neural_processing_unit

>>107113332
some CPUs have a useless AI unit on them now

My 7700X + MSI B650 motherboard from 2023 is shitting the bed and I need to replace them. I can get 265k + 32GB of DDR5 6000 + Motherboard bundle for $440.

How much performance am I losing with that versus spending like $300+ more for a 9800X3D bundle?

>cpu
amd
>gpu
amd
>motherboard
amd
>hotel
amd

>>107113461
>cpu
intel non-F
>gpu
iGPU
>motherboard
asus
>storage
half a dozen of 10tb hdds
>hotel
htpc

Hopefully that loose plastic piece does not belong to my new shitbox project.

>Asrock mbs explodes
>Asus are unstable as shit according to reviews
>Gigabytes are expensive as shit
Guess i'm forced to get MSI

Welp, the guts are exactly as I saw on the photos (including the drive bays) so not sure what I was expecting. I plan to take it apart and clean it anyway.

I worry those caddy's for the HDDs might be a problem as far as replacements go, I'll have ask Cooler Master or find someone to print them.

>>107113555
>>Asus are unstable as shit according to reviews
Only happens on AyyMD

This thing absolutely dwarfs my main build, the size difference is incredible to see in person.

>>107113630
Makes me sick.

>>107113630
What will you do with it?

ARE THERE ACTUALLY SUPER CARDS OR NOT

THEY WERE MEANT TO BE OUT BY NOW

WHERE THE HELL ARE THERE

WHAT AM I WAITING FOR

WHERE ARE THE CARDS

I WAS TOLD 18GB 5070 FOR $500 WHERE IS IT

>>107113630
Good old FULL TOWER days
Nowadays they try to cram eATX boards into a mid tower

>>107113734
in uranus haha gottem

>>107113683
Judging by the color of this dusty front fan and the smell coming off the insides, I am left to conclude this was a smoker's build at the company which sold it to me.

Some correction in the form of a dissasembly and deep cleaning is in order first to get rid of that. Then I may or may not get it primed and or painted, some new fans, possibly take off the top and installed a new power/reset switch in a 5.25 bay front panel i/o replacement to make it a perfect rectangle on top and front, attach some cut pvc panels to square off the front panel to get rid of that angled skeletal look and make it more regal, add some foam padding or filters to the meshes, close up the plexiglass window on the side with some vinyl, add some eva and rubber for noise dampening, and then if it passes visual inspection I MIGHT use it to house my main build for the next decade, if the lack of I/O on top wont be an issue since it will likely sit on the floor.

Well well well, what do we have here? I wonder if it still works.

>>107113734
supers october 2026

wait for 5080 Super or buy a 5080 now?
I'm not a waitfag but also don't want to pay 1500€ for a new GPU. 5080's are around 1300€ for top-tier models (scam) and 1000€ for lower-teir models (still a scam but my current 3080 FE is 4+ years old).

guys what if I went to Walmart and just took one of the gaming pcs on display lol

>>107113332
The new "HD READY" logo or "HDR CAPABLE"

>>107113523
SOVL
do keep us posted ples

>>107113881
Supers will be announced during CES and i doubt they'll reach MSRP or current prices until a few months after launch (which could be anywhere from late january to march) at that point you could be an omega waitfag and just ride until the 60 series, so if you can grab a 5080 at msrp now do it (unless you need more vram for AI or producticity,

This optical drive is absolutely CAKED in cigarette ash, holy shit it smells so bad. An absolute bitch to wipe it off, I think it's bound to the metal case at this point.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VjV6kf
Usage: Gaming and coding
Case, PSU and extra storage from current build
IDK if I'll need more PSU connectors (hope not), I think the Watts will be OK
And I'm getting the extra NVMe because I read samsung ones (980 NVMe) are trash on Linux
What u think?

>>107113912
If you go back to any walmart you will be immediately detained and probably arrested.
Their facial recognition shit was insane even before the ai meme

>>107113977
Have you tried a magic eraser? It usually takes that shit right off.

>>107114121
They would have to dunk the whole drive into an ultrasonic cleaner.
t. smoker

3 out of 10 parts arrived.
TUF 5090
Gigabyte clean back connect mobo (it's so heavy lol)
9800x3d

case and ssd tomorrow.
managed to get some ram at a decent price hopefully it actually arrives.
psu, aio, fans should be next week.

I'm so hyped.
Finally upgrading after 10 years.

>>107114121
I don't have any of those on hand, not sure if I can buy them here. I'll just have to be precise with my wet towels and hasty in my deconstruction to get this volcanic chernobylite chainsmoker ash off because its literally everywhere no matter how small the surface is.

What IPS 1440p 120+ hz monitor should I get with a $200 budget? I remember the Dell 2724D was the default last time I checked but it doesn't seem to be manufactured anymore.

>>107114025
seems fine, im not a fan of the 9700x personally if you just gonna play vydia and code you can get by with a 9600x and never notice the difference
You probably dont need the AIO for those 65w chips, therlmaright got your back for 40$
The mobo is also on the expensive side, research if you aren't overpaying for stuff you dont need.
In case the price difference (100 in the chip, 50 in the cooler, and whatever on the mobo) gets you somewhere

Either way your build is fine, im just giving you options

>>107114262
total bill?
also giggling at buying a back connector mobo, a 5090 and then mentioning the ram prices
The extra 100$ on the ram is not gonn kill you

>>107114282
pcpartpicker isn't great for monitors but

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#A=2,5&C=0&D=160000,600000&F=685800000&P=2&r=256001440

Parametric search for 1440p, 166hz+, 27" IPS screen.
Order by price and start checking those in your price range

>>107114282
>ips slop
Just stop it anon, get a va miniled

Looks like the chipped part I saw in the box was the leg stand, it cracked off. Must've gone during shipping if not before. Well, at least these side panels and the box make a good tray workbench.

Kinda wish I bought that primer along the way back today, I could probably paint the bare chassis as it is once cleaned and washed.

>>107114323
can you post a couple examples?

>>107114310
Thanks, I'll check it out, but why specifically 166hz+?
>>107114323
VA has worse colors than IPS and black smearing, and I don't really care about how dark blacks can get, I don't play in the dark or play dark games

>>107114361
>Thanks, I'll check it out, but why specifically 166hz+?
seemed a decent bar to set, filtering the 144hz screens as those have probably older panels when 144hz became a semi standard. You know just asking for a bit more, obviously feel free to adapt the search to your needs

>>107114361
>I don't play in the dark or play dark games
Based Barbie Horse Adventures 2 enjoyer

>intlel 13/14th gen
>aio
>oled screen
>any housefire connector gpu (yes even amd ones are dying now)
name a worse "im right, youre wrong and brown" /pcbg/ combo

>>107114296
>total bill?
like $4k
>The extra 100$ on the ram is not gonn kill you
it just sucks that 64gb ram nowdays is just as expensive as 96 gb 3 months ago.

D I S G U S T I N G

Is this fan even worth saving at this point? I fear it's going to blow cigarette stink around no matter what considering there's bought to be shit inside of it too.

A friend of mine is looking to buy a 32" IPS panel 4k high refresh rate monitor for work and occasional gaming, he's currently on one of the first 27" 60Hz 4k monitors that came out years ago.
He's looking at a few options:
Samsung Odyssey G7 G70D - plenty of reviews, mediocre panel, useless gimmicks such as edge lit "local" dimming and a TV OS
LG 32G810SA-W - I can't find a good review, but just looking at the specs it seems to be mediocre too (1000:1 contrast, 8-bit panel with dithering to 10-bits, 400 nits brightness), for some reason it still has the gimicky TV OS feature, but the LG flavour.
Dell Pro P3225QE - I didn't even realise Dell have a "Pro" series that's cheaper than the UltraSharp? Otherwise at least to me it seems like it'll have the best picture quality, but again there's not enough in-depth reviews of this monitor either and it's 100Hz which he thinks is a big downgrade from 144Hz.
I just wish all of them had credible reviews so I could give him objective advice. He'll probably go for the LG because it's white and will look good next to his white PC case and peripherals.
He doesn't care about the fact that the Samsung and LG try to be a small smart TV, or the presence or lack of DP-alt mode, PD, KVM etc. since he just needs a desktop monitor.
I know he'll probably be happy with any of them, but I can't shake the feeling that both the LG and Samsung are just cheap IPS panels that, apart from the 4k resolution would have been considered mediocre years ago.
If you have any recommendations on which of these to go for, or a better alternative for 450-550 EUR let me know.

>>107114421
This fan was so fucking brown and yellow in the photo I legitimately thought it was a Noctua fan at first.

>>107114421
>>107114475
You're overreacting, just use wet wipes and some degreaser.
A friend of mine used to run a PC Café back in the good old days when you could still smoke everywhere, and he would clear tar/nicotine staining with degreaser.

>>107114439
You need to look into professional-grade monitors if you want a high-quality IPS these days.
It's all budget panels in that 450-550 EUR price range or below.

>>107114421
>>107114475
not gonna be worth it unless you could just throw it in an ultrasonic cleaner

>>107114498
your friend was probably already desensitized, every little nook and corner is going to have stink gunk

>>107114552
Yeah I've never looked into this particular market segment, my personal monitor is a Dell U2724DE and it's brilliant, but the current year 32" 4k version of it is way too expensive.
The P3225QE at least seems to have a native 10 bit IPS panel and similar contrast ratio to mine, but it's definitely not a gaming first monitor.

>>107114557
Most of the surface area is just plastic, it's not a rug or a sofa, it's worth cleaning if the bearings are still fine.

>>107114392
jelly poorfag?

>>107114283
>not a fan of the 9700x personally if you just gonna play vydia and code you can get by with a 9600x
I think I'll spend a bit more get a 7800x3d and make it last longer, current build is from sep/2018 with i58600k and 1070Ti so pretty well used
>You probably dont need the AIO for those 65w chips, therlmaright got your back for 40$
Yeah, you're probably right I can downgrade the AIO to a smaller one but I like to use the radiator fans as exaust or intake for the case, 2 less moving parts so is good for noise.

>>107114668
if you move to the 7800x3d then might as well keep the aio, its a sensibly hotter chip than the 97/600x

Time for a new thread I guess
>>107114688
>>107114688
>>107114688

If I want to get more ram for my desktop, does the timing have to be the same? Ideally I'd just get the exact same model, but I'm trying to get some DDR4 stuff from marketplace.

>>107114755
it will run at the slower speed of the two

>>107113284
if more HZ ok, if better panel OK
but you WILL not enjoy 4k content, simple as

>>107113327
>legacy level thinking in 2025
people like you will keep manufacturers pushing out 1440p displays in 2045 still
allah as my witness