Thread 107118642

He was right.

>>107118642 (OP)
theyre both right

>>107118642 (OP)
It's funny how much the typical linux user has changed. Nowadays they just rice the desktop, hardly any setup servers. Typical old school lintard though, totally missing the broader appeal.

>>107118661
setting up servers is pointless when everything is under CGNAT niggerhell

>>107118661
>Typical old school lintard though, totally missing the broader appeal.
thats what the site originally catered to thats why i said he is right, because his comment is genuine, sincere and true.
its just he didnt understand the shifting culture where this was going to be the way to get rewarded in the future, because its so fucked up; and that is also true, we complain about the cloud daily and governments put important stuff on it, and AWS goes down and you lose money.

ftp account? curly fps? svn or cvs? what does this gobbldigook mean

>>107118661
We (me) have better places to discuss about the tiny things created to improve quality of life, all those small automation scripts that are forgotten [picrel]
Try to make a good UBO filters/regex filter thread and you'll be blasted quicker than the explosion schizo.

>>107118642 (OP)
He was. Dropbox still isn't profitable, it's just that computers are cheap and VC money is well... also cheap apparently. 600 million in pre IPO vc money burned for something every computer can just do already.
There actual business model provides negative value to the world as every company now thinks they can function without an IT guy. Effectively choking that segment of the market before it's even born.

>>107119259
>Dropbox still isn't profitable,
last i read they make around $2 billion a year. the absolute state of this board's collective of low iq, chatgpt using, street shitting spammers.

>>107119289
it doesn't matter that you make 2B if you spend 3B, retard, you're still not profitable

>>107118737
ipv4 problems

>>107119472
Are you disabled

>>107120043
LOL
Also business contracts don't count, they are just shuffling money around to their jewish buddies.

>>107118642 (OP)
>quite trivially
Linuxtards really don't get it, do they?
You think I got time to fuck around learning all that?
How about you learn how to operate a rope and chair.

>>107120066
>How about you learn how to operate a rope and chair.
Why you gotta bring ski lift operators into this?

>>107118642 (OP)
faggot

>>107120049
>they are just shuffling money around to their jewish buddies
jews has nothing to do with it.
In a capitalist economy there is a little concept called the "profit incentive."
In fact... why work in the first place? To make money.
If you work for free you are literally retarded and should kill yourself.

>>107118661
>he thinks /g/eets with screetshots of fagfetch showing 10 minutes uptime, often from a VM, is "the typical linux user"
lol
lmao even

>>107118661
people out here in the linux world building literal cyberdecks and this mfer thinks nobody's doing anything

>>107118737
I literally just sent an email to my ISP asking to remove me from cgnat and they did in 15 min.

Fuck samba

>>107118904
>gobbldigook
besides hank hill I've never heard anyone else using this word.

>>107120494
nta but i use it all the time and im a fucking leaf
maybe get out more?

>>107120508
good for you. I guess probably cuz I'm not living in some flyover hillbilly trailer park. my bad.

>>107118642 (OP)
He is correct.
Subscribing to some host who simply gives you FTP access to a folder would be the easier and more straight-forward solution, that also doesn't depend on a corporation.
And you can access it anywhere with every OS having it built in.

I don't know what he is rating about svn or cvs though. Dropbox doesn't have any such ability and it isn't needed.

His comment is also misunderstood. He pointed out that it is trivial to do this, which means that the company value is limited. Would you invest into something that you know everybody can copy?
Even if the average pleb can't, every single rando shitskin can launch such a service with ease and compete with you.
He isn't suggesting that the average normie is going to do it, he is suggesting that competition can pop up within a microsecond.

And time did indeed prove him right. Nobody is using dropbox anymore. And nobody who is using it is paying for it.
It was a venture capitalist scam.

>>107120140
>If you work for free you are literally retarded and should kill yourself.
I never paid anything for dropbox and i get their shit for free. They are gifting me things for free.
And idiotic venture "capitalist" investors shove money into this, because they think that at some point in the future it might stop being for free.
But even if that point happens, i am just going to leave them.

If it is literally retarded to offer things for free, then the whole Silicon Valley is rolled by mouth breathing drooling monkeys.

>>107120576
>Nobody is using dropbox anymore. And nobody who is using it is paying for it.
except for corporations that have become babyducks to it.

>>107120576
> Nobody is using dropbox anymore. And nobody who is using it is paying for it.
businesses do and the fact you think it isnt a viable business when we're 18 years into the future of this post and they are valued around 7 billion dollars.

>>107121430
just because legacy businesses still use COBOL doesn't mean it's not a retarded language no one should use

>>107121381
>>107121430
"Businesses" either have their very own infrastructure where every company machine that is outside of the company connects to their VPN, or they use (((government or glowfag approved))) cloud providers like SharePoint or SolarWinds or both in combination.
And they then get regularly hacked, because as it turns out, clouds that only exist because of government money are ridiculously incompetent and insecure. The government and NSA or CIA monkey are simply retarded.

Nevertheless, the point stands, Dropbox got out-competed, because of just how simple it is to do the same.
Sure you can make money by investing into it, similar to how you can earn money by getting quickly into a new crypto scam and leaving before the rugpull happens. But it is not a business that can last.

>>107118642 (OP)
>bro throw your usb away so we can nuke your account when our ai bots detect copyrighted content

>>107118642 (OP)
Classic linux sperg who thinks everyone else is both unemployed and wants to dedicate his free time to doing this shit. Why would I build it myself if someone else can and has done it for me? Reinventing the wheel is not how I want to spend my free time.

>>107122243
What stops you from building your own dropbox commercial service, compete with them and cash in on 8 billion $$$?
There is a guy who tells you what you need. The only thing you have to do yourself is some webshit UI for the pleb.

What are you worth as a human if you can't even do this basic thing? Do you think your employer wants a loser like you?

I don't understand the time spent on wondering whether other people are computing "correctly", trying to encourage "correct" computing.
I will compute the way I want to, which is by setting up an FTP server. I don't care in the slightest if the next person along is too retarded to do that, doesn't have the time to do that, doesn't know that that's an option. They can pay for Dropbox. Why should I or anyone else be the one who is supposed to dissuade them of that?

>>107120140
No judgement because it happens to all of us, but you're replying to a sharty bot. The unnecessarily combative tone gives them away sometimes. They're designed to waste user time and make the site worse overall, as a joke.

The last time i saw someone use Dropbox was over ten years ago, LOL

>>107122332
Because eventually those people form a majority of users and start influencing and affecting us. And for what? They don't want to use computers, you realize that right? But they're foisted on them regardless and everybody suffers.

>>107118904
FTP is a way to give other people root access to your filesystem through an unencrypted protocol. For some reason, enough people think it's awesome for Wordpress to make it its default method of installing plugins. Dumbasses.

>>107118642 (OP)
you have to go back orangenigger

>>107122581
Doesn't seem to have happened yet. If you use Linux, you're already in a small minority of the market share, and yet hordes of normal people using Windows doesn't seem to have affected me one bit.

>>107118661
speak for yourself retard

>>107120494
It's been common english lexicon for decades. Probably more popular with older people but still

>>107120494
>Zoomer detected.

>>107118642 (OP)
i like self hosted stuff but the problem is if you don't use linux or these pieces of software on a daily or even weekly basis, you forget how it works.

the last time i reinstalled proxmox i had to spend multiple days remember how to reconfigure shit.

Dropbox never worked that well for me.

>>107118737
>skin color brainmelt

>>107119502
ipv4 works perfectly, you retard don't even know what you are replying to

>>107120252
this or native dualstack. I have both if needed but I don't care about dumbphones. both my mobile and home ISP just werk flawlessly and same with frens accessing my box.

>>107124781
Your mother "dropped" her "box" on me if ya' dig. (which she did, approximately 9 months prior to your emergence).

>>107118661
I'm a newfag Linux user and I installed just plain KDE on my arch system while I also have a HTTPS server running on it 24/7.
Maybe nothing changed.

People who run their own servers have always been pretty rare.

>>107126704
I also love large penises around my face and mouth.

>>107126731
That's great, but how's that related to anything I said? Didn't ask.

>>107126746
Gay...

>>107120043
I hate that literally every accountant comes up with new terms. Is revenue income? Is total revenue net income? Is net revenue profit? Holy shit

>>107118661
I've yet to hear anyone come up with a single usecase for an average computer user to build a server

>>107120494
Example of Hank using this? I don't ever remember it. Doesn't fit the character to me.

>>107126811
Buy a dictionary.
>No, revenue is not the same as net income or profit, although revenue is a type of income. Revenue is the total money a company earns from sales before any costs are deducted, while net income (or net profit) is what is left after all expenses, taxes, and other deductions are subtracted from revenue. Net revenue is a more specific term that refers to gross revenue minus adjustments like returns, refunds, and discounts.

>>107126998
so which is the profit?

>>107127023
"net income"
They have to be specific with these terms for auditing purposes.
>Net Income: The final profit after all expenses (including cost of goods sold, operating expenses, interest, and taxes) have been subtracted from revenue. It is often called the "bottom line" because it is the final profit on the income statement.
"Profit" could refer to sales cost minus acquisition cost, without respect to wages or other costs.

>>107118661
it feels the same, i would just tell someone 'you can install sshfs and mount an entire filesystem just using ssh so ftp (and dropbox) are completely useless now to anyone slightly techsavvy. your server does use ssh, right?'

>>107119472
Even worst case they are still at 27% margin, which isn't great for software but also isn't awful for literally an app running on AWS.

>>107127065
>armed with this new knowledge I will surely understand the screengrab
>>GAAP
aaaaaaa

thanks though

>>107123745
KDE getting more windows conventions slapped on it might count?
and so does Gnome copying appleshit

>>107127701
I don't use a DE, but yeah I guess if you do, that might count.
Doesn't really sound that big of a deal to be honest.

>>107124752
I write down all the set up commands I perform once I have the right one. It's easy to remember how to do it if you do that.
I think it reinforces it too, so you recall it better without reading the documents.

>>107120066
>learn all that
>lol what is a file transfer protocol xD

this use to be the basic shit you had to know to use the internet. In the really early days people wrote their own html code to make websites work. People were making 6 figures just knowing that <p></p> makes text show up as its own paragraph.

>>107123745
>Doesn't seem to have happened yet
lol?

>>107126835
I've yet to hear a single good reason the average computer user should actually be a computer user

>>107127841
connecting a computer to the internet should require a license, like amateur radio.

>>107127883
Here's my license turbo FCC

>>107127823
Feel free to posit something.

>>107118642 (OP)
>hn screenshot
>with their only memetic comment they keep wanking themselves with over and over
i fucking miss twitter screenshot threads, orange faggots are pretentious as fuck

>>107118737
>CGNAT
this doesn't exist outside of India

>>107128185
retard

>>107128196
feels good knowing I'm not gated to an Indian cellular network like (You)

>>107128234
carrier grade nat is fucking everywhere you dumb cunt, even retards like you in US are using it, go ask some ai chat or something dumbfuck

>>107128196
>>107118737
lol kill yourself pajeet

>>107128266
now check how your mobile address is assigned dumb cunt

>>107128292
statically

>>107128311
yeah 48 pounds, sure you're paying that kek, now fuck off with you 'only indian' technology back to orange leddit

>>107128322
>poorfag indian absolutely seething behind his CGNAT
i’ll just keep enjoying my 1.9Gbps unlimited bandwidth on a static IP bro

>>107128266
i am not paying my ISP 60 dollars a month for a static IP on top of my own plan

>>107128327
did you not notice 'check availability and order' and not, your ordered static IP, you're a fucking cgnat jeet so fuck off

>>107128338
stay mad bro
https://www.speedtest.net/result/18444974474
>>107128336
are you a fucking illiterate? it’s included in the price retard, you don’t pay “on top”. Unlimited bandwidth inclusive of static IPs.

>>107128366
you're still a fucking cgnatted jeet bro, showing you can order a static one for 48 quid only proves it, who cares about your speed, fucking subhuman pajeets don't understand english

>>107118642 (OP)
Im still using usb drives, fuck cloudshit and tinkering with nfs.
Its not hard to plugin wires ffs.
And if i feel like sharing i can seed shit.

>>107128383
>order a static one for £48
calling other’s pajeet when you can’t read yourself is not the hill to be dying on.
Why are you pretending it’s £48 for a static IP when it’s £48 for an unlimited everything plan that comes with a static IP?
why are you still pretending I’m behind CGNAT when I have a static public IP? IDNet does not do dynamic or CGNAT IPs , you’d know this if you had read the site.
Keep seething btw:
https://speedtest.net/result/18444982762

>>107118642 (OP)
sorry bros, but I gotta vent...

FUCK GOOGLE CLOUD I HATE YOUR FUCKING WEB UI I CANT FIND AND YOUR POP UPS MAKE ME WANT TO POP CAPS INTO EVERYONE WHO WORKS FOR YOU I WANT TO FUCKING MURDER GOOGLE CLOUD FAGGOTS AND THROW THEM INTO A FUCKING SEWER. YOU WONT BE DEPRECATING ANY MORE JANKY FUCKING MAPS QPIS AFTER THAT GO FUCK YOURSELVES

>>107128406
do the needful and ack yourself cgnatted bro, fucking britbong paki angry people call him a jeet kek, go home khan

>>107128406
your mobile phone retardo is cgnatted, who gives a fuck about your landline when you still are using jeet technology in fucking london, throw your phone away

>>107128441
Feels good to VPN straight into my router on my static IP because I’m not a seething third-world CGNATcuck

>>107128406
>feels good knowing I'm not gated to an Indian cellular network like (You)
yes your cellular is just as jeeted (CGNAT) as average jeet, kys

>>107128449
>continues to pretend that a static IP phone plan is CGNAT
>is so poor he can’t afford £48 a month for an unlimited phone plan + static IP
>continues to project about his jeetism
lmfao

>>107128452
yeah now hit your mobile phone IP address from external device... ooops it's cgnatted, you're jeeted, jeet yourself

>>107128462
i have 1gbps with static ip for like 30$ kek, still my mobile is cgnatted like everyone elses and I'm not trying to pretend cgnat doesn't exist outside of india, time to ack yourself tranny

>>107128482
keep seething cause you can’t read

>>107128487
yeah that's gamma branded sims, which are business only, you're faking again, you're still CGNATted on your personal sim cunt

>>107128260
My ISP literally does not use CGNAT. They provide a dynamic IPv4 address, but you basically hold on to it as long as the modem's MAC address doesn't change. Additionally, I am provided a /32 on IPv6 so that Indian retards like (You) can spam `GET /wp-admin.php` on my reverse proxy.

Static IPs are available with a "business plan", but it's easy to automate A/AAAA record updates with Porkbun's API.

Overall: feels good not being an Indian retard like (You)

>>107128522
consumer is right there
please learn to read Ramesh
no more replies, keep crying and pooping in your curry

>>107128539
now show me where you can order it for personal use, screenshots of few buttons prove literally nothing, static IP on mobile is only for business (gamma branded) sims, waiting for you rajesh

>>107128538
landlines providing dynamic IPs is(was, fuckers like french play try to push their ipv6 with cgnat as standard now) standard, the retarded britbong is pretending as if his mobile phone is not using cgnat, which is not standard, you can order business static IP address over 4g if you have no way to get a landline/broadband, his personal mobile is still cgnatted but as a fucking sadiq paki he will die on this hill kek

>>107128557
https://www.idnet.com/mobile-broadband.php
enter postcode ct1 1de
pick any address you like
scroll to mobile premium unlimited
place order
select consumer
select H3G Multisim
fill out personal details
enter promo code if you have one
pay
wait for your sim in the post

that simple
now end your life

>>107128586
broadband vs mobile, cellular you paki cunt
your phone is cgnatted, you're jeeted, gn

>>107128597
then pay for the optional phone service tard
i get it for free because i’m a long time existing customer.
cope.

>>107128623
>feels good knowing I'm not gated to an Indian cellular network like (You)
geee guys if I order 4g broadband I can get static IP, now pull your phone out of your pocket and stop pretending dumb cunt, you're cgnatted like our jeet friends, you're probably a jeet too kek

>>107128627
>obsessed with his own kind award
too poor for a static ip + phone service
such a shame.
$30 worth of rupees for 1Gbps at home and he brags
lmfao

>>107128634
yeah and the phone you pay for extra will be cgnatted, you got jeeted twice

>>107128642
>it’s CGNATted despite all evidence to the contrary… because…. IT JUST IS

>>107128654
except your phone isn't, show me the minutes you got on that static IP, oh wait, there is none as it's broadband, pure internet connection, how are they gonna do shit like VoLTE, thanks for supplying your picture, I imagined you look like this

>>107118642 (OP)
>He was right.
they're both gay.

>>107128666
>NO THATS U
learn how greentext works, tourist

>>107128694
and again showing irrelevant part of policy, muh buy +5 quid for a phone as an extra to the broadband, your extra phone is not getting static IP, it's CGNATted, you're being jeeted (nevermind the absurd 60$ for starters), cya jeet, enjoy being cgnatted

>>107126704
You know what's really cool? I run Windows 11 and run an IIS server to my local network.

>>107127168
The hassle of managing a server isn't worth the problem

>>107128758
a ssh server is literally just 'turn it on' whats the management? thats what dogshit sbcs/minipcs are good for. you don't have to do anything aside from install ssh on your server, sshfs is something you put on the client and it mounts like a folder. it is genuinely great

>>107128709
you seem mad jeet. stay in india and don’t bring your retardation to the west, we don’t want you