Thread 107124202

Bathtub Edition

How to request advice:
>Budget
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
>Past gear and your thoughts on them

FAQ:
>Where do I buy IEMs?
Amazon, Aliexpress, Linsoul, Hifigo, Shenzhenaudio

>Shopping Guide (IEMs, PMPs, Cables, Ear Tips, etc.):
https://rentry.org/consoomer_guide

>EQ Guide (EQ 101, Targets, Myths & Misconceptions, Papers, etc.):
https://iem-eq-guide.pages.dev/

>/iemg/'s Blog/Wiki (Archive, Music Editorial, etc.):
https://4ciemg.github.io/IEMGazette/

>Frequency Response Graph Tool
squig.link

>Budget Wire Over-Ear IEMs:
• Tripowin Ruta10 (Mild V) - $18
• Tanchjim Bunny DSP (Mild U) - $22
• Truthear Gate (Mild V) - $22
• EPZ Q1 Pro (V-shape) - $35

>Bullet IEMs:
• Tanchjim ONE DSP (5 Presets/5-Band PEQ) - $28
• Etymotic ER2XR (Neutral) - $140

>Flathead Earbuds:
• Blue Vido (Warm) - $5
• Yincrow X6 (Warm) - $10

>USB-C DACs:
• JCally JM6 (Non Pro) / CX Pro - $8
• JadeAudio JIEZI (10-Band PEQ) $18
• Tanchjim Stargate II (8-Band PEQ) - $38
• Qudelix 5K (20-Band PEQ/GEQ) - $110

>PMPs:
• HiBy R1 - $85
• HiBy M300 - $200

>AVOID USING:
• Mainboard audio when using multi-driver pos

Previous Thread: >>107108769

Don't wash your IEMs, wash yourself.

eq guide, chuzo and crinacle won

*does nothing*
That will be $999, sir.
https://www.linsoul.com/products/gustard-u26

/iemg/ Dogma Check
Tired of the hivemind? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:

>Crinacle is not your priest.
Rankings are a guide, not divine scripture. Your ears > his spreadsheet.

>Harman ≠ perfect.
It’s a preference curve, not a law of physics. Some genres need deviation.

>Chi-Fi isn’t magic.
Great value, yes. Immune to qc issues and hype cycles? Nah.

>Graphs are not sound.
They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. Use your ears, not just squigs.

>BA ≠ metallic, DD ≠ perfect.
Implementation matters more than driver type. Always has.

>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.
If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. It's highly encouraged to form an original opinion.

>Disagreeing ≠ cope or deaf.
Let people like what they like without foaming at the mouth.

>Loud posts =/= smart takes.
Confidence without experience is just noise. Show graphs, impressions, or both.


This has been your scheduled break from pos groupthink.

>>107124492
I'm the best

>>107124492
>posts literal chatgpt slop
>chimps out when people point that out
What is this mental illness called?

>>107124492
When you train your LLM on 6 years old posts you get shit like this.

>>107124202 (OP)
I know it's not IEMs and not HI-FI but.
What is the nest chinese bluetooth noise-canseling headphones? Or I should swallow a sony pill.

>>107124607
get a sony.

I want to take your advice and get a single driver IEM to EQ with.

Now the question is, should it be a DD or a Planar?

I'm thinking of either the Fiio FD15 (13.8mm DD) or the Artti T10 Pro (14mm Planar).

>>107124650
>T10 Pro
just get that.

>>107124654
You think the planar will sound better? I wonder which one will have the most satisfying bass (after EQ).

chatgpt, simzo and nggar won

Btw here is the graph with the red nozzle on (looks better with this on, more bass and less treble).

>>107124676
tough one to answer. I know absolutely nothing about the FD15, but T10 Pro gets universal praise. instead of trying to decide what driver is best, get an idea of whether you'll be using the pos as an all-rounder, only for gaming, movies, etc. is there a particular pos you're trying to upgrade from?

>>107124650
It should be whatever looks the best.

>>107124650
DD is better at the moment, since there's only one planar driver manufacturer and they can sometimes have distortion issues. Planar FR is also less smooth than DDs. FD15 is decent but its large and blocky, I would look into a different DD like Tanchjim Nora or Bunny.

>>107124706
I'll be sidegrading from the Aful Explorer. I want to try a single driver IEM with a different sound.
>>107124712
That's tough. I think they both look great (on pictures).
>>107124738
The Tanchjim's look very bright on the graph though, and the nozzles are very thick (6.5mm). The Fiio's nozzle is only 5.5mm, same as the Explorer. The T10's nozzle is 6mm, which is concerning.

>>107124801
Why are you concerned about brightness if you're planning on using EQ? The importance of nozzle diameter is also overblown, the shape of the IEM and angle of the nozzle matters more. The smallest ear tips are 10mm which is bigger than even the thickest nozzles.

why do brownoids struggle with the time domain so much? at times it seems like they're actively denying it, but no, their minds literally don't perceive it

>>107124895
t. brownoid that thinks MHz is time domain

hello dear friends
i'm a newbie in this shit
could you fellas recommend me some nice entry level iems for rock/punk/metal music? they also have to be comfortable to wear for hours
thank you kindy

>>107124872
I find it hard to EQ the upper frequencies, since you can't trust graphs on it. My ears aren't trained to EQ high frequencies. But EQing bass and lower mids I find pretty easy. So it's nice if the upper mids and treble is already pretty decent without EQ, and maybe only requires one small EQ adjustment, but I don't think I can manage to do 3-4 adjustments in the high frequencies successfully.

>>107124801
I think the new planar S12 Ultra would be better for you or a 1DD EA500LM. I was about to rec transjim fission, but at its price, no way. EA500LM punches above its price better

>>107124931
It's pure luck whether or not a pos's upper treble will agree with your ears, that's tough.

>>107124492
/iemg/ Dogma Check Check
Tired of the slopypasta? Here’s your prescribed sanity dose:

>Crinacle is irrelevant
it's 2025, nobody cares about his opinions more than anyone else. He's just another YouTuber now.

>Harman can be perfect.
It might not be for everyone, but it's good enough for most genres of music and most listeners like it.

>Chi-Fi is magic.
Mainstream audio brands have the same issues with QC and unit variation, at a higher price. They have too much overhead and marketing to be price/performance competitive with chi-fi brands.

>Graphs are sound.
They don’t show staging, dynamics, or fit. But only eartip fit actually changes the sound. Driver quality matters, but FR is more important, even if you don't use EQ.

>DD = perfect.
Implementation matters more than driver type, but some have limitations. 1DD can sound consistent with different volume and impedance. 1BA sets have the same advantages, but they are uncommon. Planar and EST drivers are a meme.

>Meme sets aren’t the whole hobby.
If it’s not shilled 24/7, it might still be good. You're still gambling if you buy without any graphs or reviews, and even then you might get screwed by unit variation or stealth revisions.

This has been your scheduled break from LLM copypasta.

>>107124927
Apos Rock Lobster

>>107124344
three different worlds, everyone's happy

>>107124607
this >>107124628

>>107125018
unoriginal. uninspiring. copycat. cope harder

>>107125018
shartman can indeed be perfect but only OE
the IE one is a joke and the best shartman pos like nova or brown variations deviate from the target substantially, especially in the upper mids and treble

>>107125029
i don't see them available in europe and only shipped from us. the shipping cost + tax would eat my ass :( they look nice, but the cost would definitely not be entry level

>>107124650
sgor luna if you're willing to spend as much as $30 for one

>>107125150
then look into 7Hz Elua Ultra

>>107125127
Chatgpt lost.

>>107124492
I've literally never seen anyone defending crinacle and harman here, pure hallucination.

>>107125270
In fact the most famous crinacle pic here is techs = price. You know the one.

>>107124927
tanchjim bunny dsp

Got ZX507. Dang this shit is sexy.

>>107124202 (OP)
Doggo walks into your room jumps on your table trips over your hifi wires sends equipment flyin
You deserve it, for ruining your DAC with cringe anime
I love Supesu Dandi & FLCL as much as my fellow nerds at my old school but your taking your autism too far
Its like you dont want women in your house you gay or something?

>>107125472
you sound like a cuck who lets women walk all over him for scraps of attention.

>>107125472
I want fox women in my house.

>>107125472
>getting this mad at an ai image
its really over for boomers

>>107126026
it's not the image. it's the fact that the only real difference between that pos and the og is the faceplate and an extra $340 on top of the og price for no reason. and no, the slight, marginal tuning changes are not part of the premium.

>>107125303
peq $5 shitbuds to perfection

it's genius.

>>107126294
its an ai image lol

>>107126306
Techs = price.
The cheaper shitbuds are, the better techs.

>>107126352
You pay more for distortion.

>>107126327
no I get it, it's in the toilet, but still. whoever actually owns one, is a doofus

>>107126486
its a bathtub dude read the op

>>107126494
you're really gonna give AI slop credit just to say I'm wrong? Chatgpt wins, I guess

>>107126528
yeah i love ai, in fact ani is my gf

>>107126352
>>107126368
>newfags still trying to find techs in the measurements

>>107126572
>implying techs isn't THD

>>107126572
Graph circlejerk works nice only if you sit at home wanking your dickequalizer with the single pos you own all day long.
Once you walk out the comfort zone (lmao most in this thread won't) and actually get to listen to different pos and headpos and try to correlate them with the graphs. they will face a huge cognitive dissonance.

>>107125643
I let them press their high heels on my dick and balls, its fun. While you walk down this empty street, on the boulevard of broken dreams. Bottom line, I eat college girl ass while you stay in your room listening to music agoraphobic and alone while i find bitches at REAL LIVE CONCERTS SOMTHING YOUR TOO AFRAID TO ATTEND and bring them back to the crib
The fuck you listen to, Sphongle & Disturbed? Sabrina Carpenter? TAY TAY?!?!?!?
I fist bitches ass and pussy to Judas Priest Painkiller you mark ass faggot
I fist bitches to Stinkfist by Tool, thats about some skeezy shit freaky deaky at the tiki bar while you jerk it to My Little Pony
You probably use Audio Technica headphones like someone who has no clue about hifi

"Why go to a show when i have the perfect audio setup at home" HAHAHAHA thats social creep pariah think

Time to grow up, guys. Buy speakers.

What would you guys recommend for a first time iem buyer to listen to mostly rap and r&b with a little rock in between

>>107127016
growing up is getting a job and building a family, which means that you need some device that will play music without bothering others
speakers are for retired divorced or widowed idiots with hearing loss and normies who like to blast their music in public spaces. which one are you?

>>107127196
speakers are for niggas who like their tunes simple as mate take a chill pill

>>107127105
kz dawn, currently $2

>>107127105
budget?

it's in dollar express and you get a discount + free ship when you add more items

>>107127016
I can't blast porn in my apartment

>>107127231
where do you find that dollar express stuff? us only?

>>107127196
>he doesn't have a home theater system to share his film and music taste with the kids
growing up is realizing they both have their place

>>107127223
$50 or less

>>107127473
7hz elua ultra and celest wyvern abyss can both be had for $60 total and you'd have two nice sets to two go back and forth with. but if I had to pick one, elua ultra.

Just ordered the new KZ "Kunten" for $14. This might be the best KZ so far.

When will planar btfo the rest?

how the fuck do i decide what custom eartips and what size of them should i buy without sticking them in my fucking ears?

Need asano tanch wallpapers NOW

>>107127513
Thanks for the recommendations, I like the design of the elua more so I'll go with those. One more question, should i get a USB DAC as I mostly listen to lossless on A cheap Samsung and IPhone 15 pm. Will it be a noticeable difference with the DAC.

>>107127666
yup. https://timeear.com/products/high-performance-dac-headphone-amplifier-bte-9
you save up for that, you'll be a happy camper

>>107127535
the new 7hz might raep

>>107127560
just get whichever seem the prettiest, I like white/transparent ones with colored insides, while despise pure black/dark gray ones

>>107127666
Personally I don't notice any difference when using a dac from my phone but I don't listen very loudly

damn zeos i trusted you...

Sony pmps just look real nice.

>7hz elua ultra
is this a new meme? why are you people suddenly shilling it

>>107127972
>you people
it's one guy giving out totally haphazard bad recs for no reason

>>107127972
one anon mentioned it when it was released, and this is the first time i've seen it again here since then

I have a budget of $200 - $250 and I'm looking to pick up a pair of IEMs + DAC and I'd like them to have a mic/mic support. Will mostly be used for commuting and working out.

Anything in my budget? Looking at the general recommendations from the OP it seems like most IEMs do not have mics.

>>107127972
>why are you people suddenly shilling it
why not?
>>107127988
>giving out totally haphazard bad recs for no reason.
you literally can't explain why it's a 'bad rec', you're starting shit for no reason, shut the fuck up

>>107128062
>>107127712
get that dac. as for the pos, I'll let the know it all rec something fuckin phenomenal for you.

>>107127535
sgor luna

>>107128115
dogshit
why are all planars so bad???

>>107128093
>you literally can't explain why it's a 'bad rec', you're starting shit for no reason, shut the fuck up
better explain why it is a good rec compared to the usual actually well-tried recs...

>>107128201
>compared
who the fuck are you, the goddamn 4chan pos police? shut the fuck up you're actually useless

>>107128062
Unironically just get airpods. Using wired iems for working out is stupid as fuck.

>>107128320
Getting high levels of radiation blasting your brain is way dumber.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxd5ISsu5sI

>>107128177
because you can't afford an amp

>>107128420
>high levels of radiation
fucking kek'd

>>107128640
What's the hype on this one? I've seen people talking about it a bunch already.

>>107128320
lifehack: cable under shirt

>>107126904
Tool is gay as hell

>>107128320
Ok and what about for my commute?
Anyway, I refuse to purchase any apple products.

>>107128436
no? are you actually so fucking stupid you think pos planars need as much power as headpos planars?
fucking retards I swear

>>107128698
>I refuse to purchase any apple products.
based. the BTE-9 is also bluetooth with giant battery capacity

>>107126743
They literally have the same Knowles full range BA drivers.

>>107128710
>why do planars sound like shit for me
see pic

eq guide...
won...?!?!?!

>>107129429
I never said anything about how "they sound for me"

>>107129451
nta, there's no way you're assuming how it sounds for everybody because you know that is bullshit.

>dynafag discovers source matters on other driver technologies
many such cases

>>107126904
>Why go to a show when i have the perfect audio setup at home
literally the only reason is pussy and I already have mentally ill underage women pulling into my driveway daily

luv me kz dawn simple as

Why are IEMniggers obsessed with anime girls?

IEMs causes hearing loss overtime.

>>107130180
only if you don't EQ

How much better are current budget meme iems compared to a kz ATE or ES4?

why is epz g10 so good, bros?

>>107125690
Which part of Europe was this photo taken?

>>107125690
I would hate to have this in front of my house

Chatgpt won

>>107128436
>slow hearing loss bad
>fast hearing loss good

>>107126368
Why is Chu 2 so high up this list?

>>107130805
least distortion

>>107124738
>there's only one planar driver manufacturer
this, while Bellsing is good enough it needs competition
>they can sometimes have distortion issues
so true, somewhere around 10KHz or slightly above, the only way to mitigate it is attenuation
>Planar FR is also less smooth than DDs
that's due to the aforementioned distortion issues, but in the uppermost treble planar is the smoothest

>>107128640
why does it look like counterfeited KZ of all things? or is it KZ?

>>107130805
It's simply an amazing IEM.

>>107130807
>>107130867
but it's only zero bucks. how is this possible

>>107130952
Distortion costs extra.

>>107130952
contrary to what everyone says, sometimes the best things in life are for free

>>107130973
Not really, you can just get a planar.

>>107131017
What do you mean not really. It costs more so it has more distortion. Yes really.

>>107130952
it's possible because iems dont have to deal with any of the problems that headphones and spaekers have for drivers

>>107131032
Some planars are $0

>>107131045
*with a $100 tariff

>>107131046
We're counting that now? We're all brown third worlders here.

rec a 5 dollar pos for listening to shitstain of a down

>>107131104
edc pro

>IEMs cost nothing
>iemg is still too poor to figure it out
how do we explain this phenomenon?

>>107131469
>IEMs cost nothing
Not the good ones.

>>107131489
$1000 shitbuds ain't good

>>107131491
some are some ain't

what's a good mp3 player that
>has a screen
>i can drag and drop my music without programs
>supports bluetooth
>if possible looks like an ipod classic since I never had one as a kid.
>isn't too expensive since I don't really care about audio quality, just as good as a phone.
>must have no camera or microphone (physically)
I can't just use my phone since I can't bring it with me at work.

>>107132533
Innioasis Y1. you can install rockbox on it

What is a good 3,5mm jack cable? I don't mean the IEMP ones, just jack to jack.

>>107132607
Thanks, looks perfect.

>>107130268
My ATE is still pretty good, but I think it's different from most ATE variations that were made. It's a very different kind of "neutral" than the current meta tuning with a stronger emphasis on low-mids but much less sub bass.

I do not like any of their older hybrid IEMs, the only one I liked was the Krila, but I prefer 1DD anyway.

Hey fags, my fiio UTWS5 kinda died and I need new bluetooth earhooks, anything cool and similar to that came out recently?

>>107132075
just like $5 shitbuds, also known as $0 shitbuds
difference? price and included accessories

how powerful is FiiO BTR11? can it handle 32ohm iems no problem?

>1DD fags still think their driver is worth more than the cable or the box even
it's literal e-waste

>>107133374
quite the opposite, single DD is king in all circumstances regardless of the price range

>>107133394
the cable is 90% of the cost, tips are 6%, box is 3.9%, 0.5% of the cost goes to plastic and finally 0.5% is the driver itself. the anatomy of a $5 shitbud.
the driver is recycled electronic waste that costs literally nothing to make, the cable has valuable copper, the box isn't even recycled paper

Any decent cables recently under $20? My zonie cable is getting loose and fray and need something new.

>>107133171
No, those are all bad.

this is a perfect example >>107127231
the driver is basically edc pro, but dawn costs half the price (from $4 to $2) just from copper savings from omitting the socket and having a non-premium cable. the cable costs more to make than the IEM itself

Is there a way to batch download my spotify library to my pc?

>>107133432
are we talking about the same iem? you do realize they're all different and have different prices

>>107133565
the driver is literally the cheapest part of any 1DD

>>107133574
no

a review saying edc pro and dawn are the same thing. iems a solved hobby.

>>107133394
Agree. Hybrids are a sidegrade at best but they generally add problems with source quality, tonal inconsistency etc.

At the $50 and below range I've never seen a configuration that beats 1DD, especially when you buy sketchy brands like KZ. If you don't like Harman, V shaped, or neutral tuning you might have to buy a hybrid anyway.

>>107133610
All KZs are the same thing.

>>107133610
>micro detail retrieval
opinion discarded

My old TWS (Linkbuds S) are fucked and I get to send them back to Amazon for a full refund.

I tried Moondrop Robin and Jlab epic lab and they're both not ideal for different reasons.
The Robins sound good but the touch controls are terrible. The Jlabs sound dull in comparison and I did eq them. And their touch controls are not great either.

Any other advice? I have proper IEMs for home use but I don't want cables for work and workout.

Give me one reason your pos is inherently more valuable than KZ Dawn. Without admitting you pay for peq, without sounding mad.
>getting mogged by $2.50 shitbuds

let's be real here for a second none of you have any idea how price formation for IEMs actually works

>>107133676
it's china, nigger. all the manufacturers already have everything they need to sell $5 shitbuds for free, cable is by far the biggest expendenture

>>107133672
A single Knowles ED-33465 costs $17.68

>nyoo you can't use words I dislike to describe sound
Chill out jeet

>>107133692
>all the manufacturers already have everything they need
but this applies to cables too
>cable is by far the biggest expendenture
if we are talking raw materials they are around the same

>>107133733
how about describing it with actual words and timestamps so we can all listen to these "micro details" and their alleged "retrieval" hm?

Where do you guys download music from?

>>107133798
I just use spotify

>>107133798
rutracker, soulseek for the most part

would you guys recommend KZ PRX?

>>107133923
no

>>107133923
no

>>107133448
>t. never heard

so what would you recommend instead of PRX, for the same price range with V shape signature?

>>107133812
how do you export it? I kinda wanted to move my playlists from spotify to my NAS but it seems impossible as every solution I can find just downloads from youtube.

https://owliophile.com/
what the fuck is happened to them?

>>107134011
I don't

>>107134010
PR2v3 is $15 with coupons rn

>>107134183
the cheapest PR2 I can find costs around 25€, just 10€ less than PRX, besides aren't all PR2s sold these days the gutted revision with the mesh removed, making them sound significantly worse than the early launch version?

>>107134010
just get one. whoever told you no, don't own it. PR2 is better tuned, but PRX has fuller bass

>>107134278
after removing the mesh they messed with the diaphragm itself for tuning, that's v3.

>>107133798
/iemg/

>>107133795
>implying edc pro doesn't a microdetail retrieval iem
get a load of this noeq

>>107133784
copper and aluminum aren't "around the same"
they're shipping out miles of copper daily and this costs money

>>107134278
just use software eq instead of relying on foam to eq it

>>107134315
PR2 has more subbass when amped. the poorfag mind struggles to understand this, so KZ started releasing lower power requirement planars afterward. if you have an amp, you don't need PR3 or PRX

>>107134383
KZ owners dont get to talk about poorfags

>>107134383
they went back to low impedance/low sensitivity again with PRX, just like PR2, so both need power

>>107134401
you are the biggest form of poorfag because you refuse to comprehend that price is inverse to quality. it's the same reason poorfags spend all their money on iphones, they're too poor to hold onto their money, worship money, and never really understand money, like most /iemg/ posters.

PR2 is the biggest shit test in IEMs and 4 posters here failed it.

>>107134442
Calm down poorfag it ain't that deep

>>107134329
reading comprehension

>>107134454
well, you're new, that's low quality bait and you never heard PR2 in your life

>>107133798
apple music, it's quite simple to setup the chinese script that lets you download hi-res files off it
though I don't know why would one want to download instead of streaming in 2025, outside of archival autism

>>107134094
eqtards were blasting pure tones and that caused irreversible hearing damage

>>107134935
aww, it's a hearing loss victim who enjoys his treble sparkle

>>107134946
enjoy your tinnitus from blasting pure tones

Help me choose my next pair of everyday carriable

>Budget
As low as I can get without sacrificing quality; ideally 40€ or less
>Intended use (media, source, environment)
Music of all kinds by a PMP in various semi-open environments (trains, buses, etc.)
>Frequency response preference and music examples
FR should be as neutral as possible! I listen to every kind of stuff (hobbyist music critic here) and I want to get as much of a faithful experience as possible.
>Past gear and your thoughts on them
I had a pair of Tang Zu and some Truthear. Can't be bothered to remember the names; while the sound was good (more on the Truthear than on the Tang Zu) I never found any of them to be particularly comfortable to wear (which is a big thing, considering I have 3-4 hrs music sessions usually per day).

>>107134094
Tried to listen to the Q1 pro at reasonable volume probably.
I liked it at first but that peak at 8khz is way too sharp. I loved the Salnotes Zero but this is just too much.

So, is there any difference, comfort-wise, among the multiple ear tips the Kiwi Ears Cadenza comes with?

>>107135433
think about that for a second. I'm going out on a huge lark here to assume the multiple tips are different sizes so....my guess is 1000% yes???

>>107135461
Not the sizes, they come in 3 different types, each with 3 different sizes, but I suspect the differences are merely cosmetic.

>>107134664
because I don't want to pay for spotify premium

>>107135181
>As low as I can get
>FR should be as neutral as possible
Truthear Gate should be good then. For me, they are very comfortable.

>>107135613
>can't afford 10 bucks per month for his music
can't imagine how much better the world would be if we just got rid of poorfags

>>107133699
why would you even buy that shit if all you need is a single dynamic driver made of polyurine

>>107135662
I can easily afford it, I've had it for years and I was okay with paying 7€/month but they recently upped the price to 11,99€ per month. The music I download is not really mine to download even if I play and they keep removing/changing the songs on my playlists.
I see no reason to pay for premium unless you're a filthy cuckold.

>>107135686
>The music I download is not really mine to download
it actually is though! https://github.com/WorldObservationLog/AppleMusicDecrypt
>I was okay with paying 7€/month but they recently upped the price to 11,99€ per month
sucks for sure, especially since they didn't even do lossless until last month (and still, their lossless offer is pretty basic).
apple music has much better lossless options and it's also a bit cheaper, at least in EU.

What is the best no fuss mp3 player? That I can use with my wireless buds.

>>107135737
I'll give it a try, but isn't apple music based on having to buy every single song? I haven't used an apple product in a few years, but I remember how clunky it was with itunes etc.

>>107135433
>>107135571
not really they are basic generic tips. try them out, some might feel slightly softer / stiffer

>>107135741
your phone

>>107135834
What is the best no fuss mp3 player that is not a phone? That I can use with my wireless buds.

>>107135770
>isn't apple music based on having to buy every single song?
nah it's just a streaming service like spotify. it's separate from the itunes store which is where they sell songs (in lossy aac for some reason despite apple music having 24/192 hi-res).
>I remember how clunky it was with itunes
it's much better than itunes used to be 15 years ago. been using it on windows/mac/android and I don't really have much complaints.

>>107135843
>here is a perfect solution for your problem
>NOOOO not like this!
but srsly, why would an old phone with custom firmware not be the best mp3 player?

>>107135885
I just want a devide that only plays songs. I don't want it to be able to connect to the internet etc.

>>107135701
destroyed him

>>107135741
come home white man

>>107135894
>wifi: off
>bluetooth: off
>gps: off
>airplane mode: on

>>107135686
whats the thing on the left?

>>107135662
I spend $10 a month on 3 $5 shitbuds then download the DSD or vinyl rip of what I want. Spotify or Tidal doesn't have DSD256 or 192KHz vinyl rips. Btdig and PBTHAL does. Why should I settle for less and do my dongle a disservice? I stick my dick in the hottest, drunkest, most mentally ill females available, buying Spotify is like sticking my dongle in a fat chick and having to pay to rent her on top of that. Imagine being at DACs so poor you hear and listen to 128kbit upsampled opus. Couldn't be me. Literally the McDonalds of audio formats when you can have a healthy and nutritious 384KHz vinyl rip. Only the finest women for my NOS dongle.

>>107134320
based

>>107136002
Helion XP50 2.0

>>107136002
a rocket launcher. gogogogo crazyhorse shoot it down imagine the petrol futures you can practically sniff it

>>107135206
>I liked it at first but that peak at 8khz is way too sharp
that's a length mode

>>107127875
I bought them because i was looking for a pair of closed back cans. After the fix they sound good but the build quality feels cheap for 150€.

>>107136032
we call them ear rapes here newfag

>>107136018
>esl fanfiction
who even wants to listen to vinyl rips in 2025, surely you're not buying top resolving dacs to listen to low dynamic range shitrips right?

>>107129892
this is the final redpill

>>107135885
samsung phones can only use spotify, they removed the local music app

should we tell him >>107136056

when you tell sexless zoomers music is free

should I eq in software or hardware?

>>107136104
it's a trick question. you're always eqing in hardware no matter what, so you have to eq in software last and after every hardware eq change

>>107136064
that's why I said custom firmware, like lineageOS
>>107136104
definitely software, hardware only adds noise

this applies to audio files too because input data is also hardware (only the enlightened understand this)

>>107136121
>duuude just get a phone and install a weird random os instead of buying a 20 bucks mp3 player!
come on

>>107136130
i literally just bought a $30 phone on ebay

>>107136112
>you have to eq
you have to, I however, don't

>>107136135
sure thing

>>107136124
enlighten me this, what are you even replying to?

>>107136136
correct, because you're deaf. the rest of us hear the ear rapes

>>107136075
oshiete kudasai

>>107136147
plenty of pos are smooth enough in the treble to not have this problem. stop buying crap?

>>107136151
go download some and hear the techs for yourself. only the finest music on /iemg/
https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/catbox%7Clain%20wv%7Cflac/

torrenting stuff you already know you want is fine and all, but how do you find new music usually? I imagine platforms like spotify have an algorithm dedicated to that

>>107136201
vgmdb

>>107136174
a good bunch of those are either terribly ripped (most likely by some incompetent old faggot with expensive gear) or from LPs with poor masters.
I'll share some of my own vinyl rips once I finish settings things up, though my music taste is probably quite different from those
>>107136201
>how do you find new music usually?
youtube, spotify/apple music, rym, /mu/
it all kind of depends on what you're listening to though. if it's asian music nothing beats yt/apple

>>107136201
just look at the albums and decide based on the album cover if it's cool or not

>>107136311
not true. look up dsbm on youtube, awesome album covers, but always sounds like shit

>>107125018
Soul. Idk why he mentions crinacle, sharur is a nobody jeet and probably comes up more than him here these days.

My opinion to add:
>flat bass FR is still very audible
Having heaps of bass is retarded and it should barely exceed Harman levels.

>>107136333
just looked
they all look like shit
get better taste

>>107136396
I don't know, to me this looks like it must be peak music (it's not)

>>107136430
stop shooting up schools, will ya?

>>107136392
>Having heaps of bass is retarded
it's called preference. there is no "right way to listen".

>>107125472
it's 2026, women like that stuff. you still shouldn't watch anime in front of them, but they love the anime paraphernalia

>>107136392
>flat bass FR is still very audible
my topic. look, right now I listen to this (https://youtu.be/heO4NJq3c8k) with picrel response. I hear plenty of bass, it's not exaggerated, I would say just enough.

>>107136621
how deep is your fit
also as always class 3 listeners are a thing (which you seem to be) harman blamed it on hearing loss and age but maybe it's ear canal anatomy differences

>shartman thinks there's an objectively best FR
>turns out flies really like shit

>>107136749
>class 3 listeners are a thing (which you seem to be)
this condescending, gatekeeping shit needs to stop

>>107136817
it's cope. their consensus FR is worthless. they think it will have the same outcome on all gear. one pair doesn't fit all music let alone all people. and you still have to eq by ear. normgroids will accept what they feel in that moment is good. trained listeners will choose what they want. the FR has to match the pos, and the pos+FR has to serve some kind of purpose. this is why IEMs sound like nobody heard them before they got packed and shipped. if nothing is tuned by ear anymore then you gotta do it yourself

>>107136817
even class 3 listeners didn't like raw DF lol
>>107136951
>if nothing is tuned by ear
well how that will help when differences in FR at the eardrum like +-10 dB at any point of the frequency response...

>>107124492
>≠
>changes from ≠ to =/=

nigga u wot?¡¿

>sony pmps doesn't support poweramp eq/wavelet
holy fuck this is retarded. their built in peq is fucking ass idk what to do. do i seriously have to use poweramp? the whole point of sony pmp is to use the classic sony music player though. fucking shit ass company can't even make a proper android device.

>>107130952
>but it's only zero bucks. how is this possible

wot

>>107137156
he means chu2 is a $5 shitbud that can be peq'd to perfection

>>107128115
Imma borrow these to see Gwar live so i dont get tinnitus if they end up caked in ear wax deal with it
I could even use it to scrape my ear wax out who needs a q tip
Then ill wipe it on some audience member's back
Stop me im coming for your ear plugs
With that being said, the democrat inside of me reminds me that Gwar had said some pretty objectional things that come off as scary perverse

>>107137201
have you considered an exorcism

>>107137201
>Gwar

>>107126368
what website does this ranking come from? curious how they measure

>>107137312
It's from ASR. THD is based on testing at 100db. No sane person listens at that level, and meant for boomers, which is why THD is a useless measurement for most people. Imagine your surprise when you realize the guy that runs ASR is an 80 year old boomer. The graph is also used by poorfags to pretend whatever shit iem that makes that list is somehow good.

>>107137312
newfag is wrong lmao
it's from hypethesonics, measured at 94dB. you can check their individual harmonics too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJQUmx84KHM
thoughts?

>>107137542
Dang 100db vs 94db what a difference.

>>107137554
didn't even click and I already know it's a shartur video

>>107137563
100dB is not even used by anyone, lay off the booze gramps

>>107137531
>THD is based on testing at 100db.
>boomers
ok so move the percentages one decimal point, same shit

>>107137554
>This is the ultimate audio blackpill and will be hard to swallow for many.
lol. lmao

herp more pbthal vinyl rips
https://files.catbox.moe/herp7o.flac
https://files.catbox.moe/i4t0uk.flac
https://files.catbox.moe/ndbp20.flac
https://files.catbox.moe/28ihml.flac
https://files.catbox.moe/o4fyia.flac
https://files.catbox.moe/u1v37b.flac
https://files.catbox.moe/k939oe.flac
https://files.catbox.moe/x27srl.flac
https://files.catbox.moe/8yx1xx.flac

>>107137951
wrong general faggot

Fola or used Origin?

>>107137294
get out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p20PijYVgG4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qscb4JCMJws

>>107137951
post more

>>107138390
fola is objectively better (with the subjectively universally applauded FR), not to mention the smaller size makes it actually fit normal people ears.

>>107138390
Fola

>>107137951
Do people never grow fatigue out of those "muh classics" dad rock albums? It gets so boring with time.

>>107138502
nta but I think its a grew up with them type of thing.
they were before my upbringing era (gen x) and I dont care for them at all.

>>107138502
No

>>107138502
someone post the screenshot of "In the End" played like 10k times in someone's music player.

>>107138547
difference is there's a lot of classics

>>107138547
in the end's an actual good song tho. not like the shit the other dude linked.

>>107135970
>That I can use with my wireless buds
>bluetooth: off
yes

>only $2
>performs like shitbuds twice its price such as edc pro
>has subbass
>unparalleled 1DD efficiency
>less distortion than your pos
How did KZ do it?

>>107138727
>less distortion
post thd plot

>>107133672
>first IEM I ordered
>still good 40 shitbuds later
how is this not a solved hobby?

>>107133672
these are $1 on aliexpress
wtf

Give me the rundown, where does the obsession with KZ pos come from?
What makes them any different from the other pos?

>>107138822
they're their own OEM and know what they're doing at this point. nobody here is obsessed though.

>>107138822
it's like bar sluts, free and gets the job done. it's addicting to spend $0 over and over again and get pleasure every time

What are you guys getting for 11/11? Any new under 50 pos worth getting?

>>107139045
fola

>>107139045
Punch Audio Martilo. I considered xenns, ziigaat and daybreak for awhile until I came across this pos. I wasn't even looking for a basshead pos but here I am, really wanting it.

>>107139045
>Any new under 50 pos worth getting?
not really no

>>107139045
Artti T10 Pro

>>107139045
sgor luna, though I'm waiting for more coins and vouchers

I got $90 from the local shipping page vouchers since august

$117 from coupons

$350 from coins

$15 from bonus so $570 free money

Kinda want buying advice. My ear canals are apparently really short and pretty much every normal fitting pos gives me a rather annoying ear canal resonance around 9500 Hz.
pic related is just an example but that's pretty much how I hear most of my IEMs. Recessed 4-8k region and huge as fuck peak. 711 obviously won't show actual acoustic impedance so add boost to everything south of 1k to that... It's actually even more fucked inside my ears and dealing with it via EQ is kinda annoying. (if you want to know how this sound - very shrilly and very very grainy...).
So I want a good iem with the shallowest fit possible. Short as fuck nozzles too. But obviously not to an unreasonable degree. And also short and huge eartips to pair with them... Probably XL size. I'd prefer JM-1 tuning but any decent tuning without too much treble will be acceptable.
Any ideas? Price I dunno I'd want something under $100 but 200 is also fine. I'm hoping for ear resonance to be around 8500-8700 with that - where it's much less annoying to deal with.

>>107139327
>>107139327
>>107139327