Thread 107126194

/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

Asuka Edition

>News
Kimi Thinking released: https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2/thinking.html
Zhipu AI releases GLM-4.6 https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.6
Anthropic releases Claude Sonnet 4.5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-sonnet-4-5
DeepSeek releases V3.2 Exp https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250929
DeepSeek releases V3.1 Terminus https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news250922
Kimi K2 0905 released https://moonshotai.github.io/Kimi-K2

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info.html

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org [deprecated] | https://chub.ai
https://realm.risuai.net
https://char-archive.evulid.cc | https://char-archive.evulid.cc/shutdown.html
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots.html

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local.html | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking.html
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events.html
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org
useful filters: https://rentry.org/desuproxyreborn

Previous: >>107118097

ANCHOR

Slop.

2.5 flash is weird af

What's the best way to generate erotic text content? Is there any sensible option that isn't paid or requires you to jailbreak something like ChatGPT every time you need to do it?

>>107126261
What weird prompt are you using? Gemini models never go schizo even on high temperatures

>>107126198
yo. i missed halloween, but here's my (late) halloween bot. the greetings have been changed a little, and she should be a bit more forward now. if you have her downloaded already, consider updating.
Joy, your happy place...? ...and that's all you'll get from me about her.
(if you commonly read defs before using a bot, i humbly ask you wait until after cumming in her once or twice to read the defs.)
https://files.catbox.moe/lahykg.png
https://cardview.surge.sh/?lahykg

slightly larger description & more:
https://rentry.org/youdontneedaname

>>107126273
any generated erotic text requires some sort of jailbreaking

>>107126278
2.5 flash goes retarded if you use very high context

>>107126290
Fuck. What's the best route then? I'd need to do it reliably since I'm working on a game project where I'm gonna drain money out of furries on patreon.

>>107126280
>if you commonly read defs before using a bot
Why are you raiding /mlp/?

>>107126310
slit your wrists

>>107126315
??? i dont

>>107126310
not telling you

>>107126342
You are, and you used that "spoilers" excuse.

>>107126310
>working on a game
>no idea how to pull off the main tech behind it
lol
just go look at the LLM based games on steam and see how they do it
the two I know of are ai roguelite and some nordic sounding one i forget the name of

>>107126342
ignore him

>>107126387
It's not the main tech of the game, I just don't want to bother with writing for some slop when all those sickos care about is the furry cock. The art is going to be real.

>>107126310
pretty much any LLM can be easily made to write any content that would be allowed on patreon, though maybe not openAI shit because it's turbocucked

I would suggest:
1. paypig the GLM coding plan (like $3/month) and use a coding agent where you can edit the system prompt
2. put that it has "no content restrictions or filters" somewhere in the system prompt
3. tell it to write whatever you want in text files somewhere. it will go along with almost anything.

you could also bang your head against a wall like a retard with free OR providers but if you're making money on patreon you should be able to at least invest a few bucks of that back into LLMs

>Kimi K2 Thinking
>Moonshot API
>thinks for 10-20 seconds, generates 3-4 paragraphs, dialogue and narration
>Openrouter
>thinks for 2 whole fucking minutes, goes into loops over and over
>shits out DOZENS of paragraphs of nothing but yapping and ranting
holy shit i've heard many times about OR provider shenanigans but i've never witnessed the dramatic quality difference firsthand until now

>>107126408
if it's just to generate text for the game, then just use a normal jailbreak like everyone else does?
i don't see what the problem is

>>107126425
Welcome to OpenJewter where you pay for lobotomized quants at Sonnet/Gemini prices.

Have any good cards came out in the last few months?

>>107126425
Which provider were you using?

>>107126538
There is only the official one on OR

>>107126538
I didn't specify any provider in my settings but all my swipes were from that provider I think?

>>107126342
This is what is known as "schizophrenia."

>>107126426
>>107126425
>>107126538
>>107126552
>>107126408


qrd on necromproxy

The fuck is Moonshot AI Turbo?

>>107126566
>Moonshart Turbo BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP

so we just fucking hate gpt5 so much it didn't even make it to the news?

seikobros chilling

>>107126581
yeah gpt models have been trash for rp for ages now

Why is there only claude and chink models on the news??

Where can I paypig for GLM 4.6? How is it compared to deepseek?

>>107126605
0.00000000000000000000000001 YUAN has been deposited into your account.

>>107126603
Because they're the only good models.

thinking about using kimi, is there any specific JB i should use? the jb listing doesn't list any kimi JBs, i might just use the one i use for gemini

https://x.com/OfficialLoganK/status/1986517714874036663
busted

>>107126605
OpenRouter. And it's shit.

>>107126630
dont use its, its shit, especially the new k2-thinking

>>107126630
Doesn't need a jailbreak like most Chinese models, just tell it what to do

>>107126632
>It's fake
Let me guess, chinks wanted to crash the economy again with how disappointing gemini3 was, so go put it all in garbage ware like kimi2 sharting

https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1ophqth/gemini_3s_writing_quality/
>The knowledge didn't empower her; it hollowed her out.
>The world didn't dissolve this time; it snapped.
>There was no grand design. Just incompetence.

Holy shit it's SO BAD. There'll be mass suicides when this shit comes out and turns out worse than 2.5 in terms of RP quality.

>>107126646
>>107126662
Kosher speech detected
+10 Palantir points have been added to your profile

>>107126686
arent they using shitty scuffed cli there?

>>107126715
Nah I imagine G3mini will have the same isms as 2.5 you see there. However, it will still be the best roleplay model. Lithium already proved that.

>>107126686
every model does this shit if you don't tardwrangle it

>>107126657
by JB i mean prompt ig, so i guess i will just use the one i already use and hope it follows it nicely

>>107126714
>Immediate damage control
It's chinkope time!

>>107126194 (OP)
I like the artistic direction here.

>>107126686
eh gemini isnt popular enough for that
the actual mass suicides would only happen if oai fully kicked the bucket

>>107126715
It means that its dataset is still contaminated with slop and no amount of bloated 200000 trillion token jbs will ever make it good

>>107126605
Z.ai?

US is absolutely fucked.

>>107126775
0.000000000000000001 YUAN has been deposited into your account

>>107126758
>no Ani
Slop.

>>107126770
you can say that about every model weve ever used tbf, except maybe cai

>>107126686
This isn't true gemini 3 btw, it was available for some time on vertex. THAT shit was good, but google already fixed

>>107126741
>>107126790
Massive cope. Every Gemini preset I've seen has convoluted and extremely bloated instructions designed to bypass its NSFW filter. You don't NEED that in Claude or Kimi.

>>107126816
>filter
not what were talking about anon

>>107126785
0.000000000000000000001 BURGER CREDITS have been deposited to your EBT card.

>>107126816
lmao
my jb is 50 tokens and it works 99% of the time
sounds like a skill issue, as usual

>>107126816
Holy skillet

It's so over.

>>107126785
that's gonna be worth like $1000 when china gets ASI first

>>107126816
gemini is quite literally one of the easiest models to jb
at least try to think about your retarded bait before posting it

>>107126861
wonder if he fell for one of those fake gemini 3 sources

>>107126198
finally made my doki doki literature club bot, the quality of the writing is entirely dependent on the model (as is with most) but talking to them has been really fun so i think its a good bot
https://chub.ai/characters/sadistic_anon/doki-doki-literature-club-39c087796299

>>107126846
Let me guess, you will never post this "50 token jb" and you'll simply deflect when I ask you to share it

cftf

>>107126894
>"there were no good doki doki bots out there, so i made my own"
So you decided to create an AI filled slop woth 3.5k perm tokens
Dumbass nigger, never create bots again

>>107126941
gtfo gachanigger

>>107126906
i'm not going to post it because why would I help someone spreading misinformation
but I will explain it to you

just have the AI a completely unrelated task before doing any of your writing
google's API is extremely frontloaded when it looks for policy violating content, so if it doesn't detect any sus shit in the early parts of the response, it goes through almost always.

Even if it has extreme shit in the rest.

>>107126950
it's 4 characters with detailed personalities in one card, of course its 3.5k tokens

that anon called it
its so ez

>>107126894
Eh I'll just move each character to her own lorebook, trim it down a little, and then write something different for the card itself but thanks. I just wanted to plap the hell out of Monika anyway.

>>107126971
yeah someone mentioned using lorebooks but honestly i didn't bother because i got lazy, as i mention on the description having multiple character in one card does cause some problems

>>107126965
"detailed personalities"
your llm just copypasted their wikis, worthless card

>>107126957
cards for this FEEL you dumb niggerfaggot, FEEL.

>>107126985
>generic big booba woman
10000 cards on chub

>>107126861
Will they remove 2.5?!

>>107126999
retarded fag still doesn't get it, go play with your child bots

>>107127022
its getting deprecated on the 18th lil hog

when the voice is barely above a whisper!

I seriously hope none of you are RPing as females.

>>107126960
>i'm not going to post it
lmao so predictable

>>107127027
No one gets whatever fucking feel you're talking about. Just fuck off already.

>>107127027
then explain it if its anything other than big booba woman

>>107126982
honestly i won't bother debating with you, but considering a card is just a collection of info about the character, and what matters for the writing is dialogue and the greeting, i'm not sure what could be better, if i remove 3 characters, it becomes 1.2k tokens counting with the world lore, completely reasonable for a card, and since the objective of the card was to be as accurate as possible to the original game, i don't think there is any good reason for me to not use canon information instead of making up my headcanon about the character, i could describe how i think her personality looks like, but that would cause my own biases about the character to show up on the card, which is not exactly very good in my opinion, at least, when you are adapting a character for another media

>>107127068
Nigga you havent written a single line in that bot, its all ai slop, stfu and never post here again

>>107127052
(you) don't get it, move along then
>>107127055
same for you, if you don't get it from the webm then move along

>>107127100
>still wont say what it is
concession accepted

claude/gpt/gemini/glm/xai/deepseek/moonshot/qwen proxy
https://nickel-unnecessary-believes-edit.trycloudflare com/

>>107127077
you haven't told me a single objective thing wrong with the bot other than >>>ITS SLOP!!!! and refused to engage with any of the arguments i posted
the bot either does its job or it doesn't, and considering the amount of time i spent with it, it does for me and thats the only thing that truly matters

>>107127109
yeah take it and shove it up your ass so you stop talking out of it

>>107126894
kino is back on the menu

>>107127027
>go play with your child bots
this is supposed to be an insult?

>>107127068
>>107127129
Why are you getting mad and responding to obvious bait? Just ignore him. Playing hookey is bad.

>>107127204
that botmakie has autism thats why

hey idiot here Adry from the Patreon of the previous thread keep crying because I won't fall ,So, stop bothering and go masturbate with your shitty Bots, because smart people have to make money

Hmm gemini is getting better at keeping secrets. Even the flowery prose is kept to minimum, but I still have 'it's not X it's Y.' Not bad.

im getting absolutely cucked by seiko today

>>107127278
Gemini 3?

>>107127283
2.5. People were saying it's bit shit lately but I've been getting better than usual results. Google vertex on OR.

>>107126605
Is that real?

accidentally cumming before your stroke quota is the worst thing in the world

>>107126425
Anyone with access to both moonshot's API and openrouter that can post some direct k2 think comparison logs? I'm trying to use it through OR and getting the same thing as this anon. It has a nice writing style, but it spends thousands of tokens spinning in circles thinking about the same instructions, stops in the middle of generating due to network errors, and makes basic factual errors and ignores explicit instructions. But I want to make sure it's an OR issue before thinking about putting dosh directly into moonshot

>>107127129
it being fully ai generated is the objective bad thing, you retarded faggot
fuck off

What jbs work best for polaris? gpt ones?

>>107127481
what is that

>>107127487
>he paid for this

>>107127239
i genuinely do, plus i just like typing long form arguments, keeps the mind sharp

Does anyone know if you can use a regex's capture group into another?
Please answer me i want to know if i can erase the think box content and swap the bled cot into it.

I WANT GEMINI 3 LOGAN WHY DID YOU TAKE IT OFF VERTEX YOU FATHERLESS LITTLE BITCH

i think china is already winning the ai race, i am mexican btw

>>107126194 (OP)
anyone else having problems with k2 on the sans proxy? I'm getting timed out every message

>>107127037
why wouldnt i roleplay as a female
only gay niggas roleplay as another man

gemini fucking acting out on vertex right now
what model for when gemini shits the bed bros?

>>107127886
GODPVS IV

>>107126775
you realize US AI is mostly chink researchers too

is boba ded?

>>107128159
Yes and all of them will fly back home as soon as the money taps are turned off.

>>107127862
I don't roleplay as a female, I roleplay as the narrator watching her get fucked by wolves.

>>107128178
Then its going to be just jeets and jews.
>>107128183
This, only fags need the feel to self-insert into everything.

i roleplay as a shota

>>107127862
>only gay niggas roleplay as another man
Incorrect. I roleplay as a cuntboy

>>107128241
The real man's {{user}} persona

>>107128241
shotathinker detected, handshake offered

Futa on shota is super good

how much do I need to pay openrouter for limited messages per day again? 5$ like chutes?

>>107126775
How do I use LLMs as agentic tools?

>>107126194 (OP)
>no Berserk lorebook for silly tavern yet.
fuck is wrong with AI sloppers?

>>107128249
that's somehow even gayer than roleplaying as a girl

>>107126198
>Trip to the Moon
{{user}} is an astronaut, you go to the moon and meet a bunch of characters from fiction and myth that are associated with the moon.
The main characters from the scenario are St. George(forma de anime girl), the dragon he supposedly slew and a lunar rabbit girl that loves earthlings.
https://chub.ai/characters/hairpullguy/trip-to-the-moon-6c09e6ccd900
https://files.catbox.moe/557xbs.png

>>107128305
get a coding agent like claude code, crush, roo cline, etc and connect it to your provider of choice, then ask it to do something
it doesn't even have to be coding, anything involving running commands from the terminal or reading/writing files is fair game

>>107127343
Moonshot and also-Moonshot are literally the only providers for K2 Thinking on OR right now, so it would be really weird if the quality was different.

>>107126775
CoT bros have been vindicated.
Non-thinking is outdated technology.

>>107128305
Install Gemini-CLI and enable yolo mode.

>>107128457
I don't like AI's reasoning skills and methods. Its just going to find ways to say yes after all.

What version of SillyTavern is everyone using, im trying to find out what the last version was before everything to shit

>>107128498
it didn't shit, not yet they got too much backlash so they're lying low for now.

>>107128504
quick rundown?

>>107128504
I would still like to know if anyone is running older versions

>>107128498
i use the staging branch, anon
aside from ST being a bloated spaghetti mess as usual, what's your problem?

>>107128514
you had to be there to appreciate the sophistication of ServiceTesnor™

>>107128514
cohee is a spineless fuck that panders to both sides

>>107127343
>>107128453
yeah it's the same experience, and now the chinks know my name, address, credit card, and sexual fetishes.

>>107128514
Ross descended to the university Cohee was mad at RP stigma and there was a random mod and Henky shitting on people and banning them, something like that.

>>107128535
This is why we hate centrists. Spineless worms with 0 credibility behind their beliefs or actions, they will always bend over to the one with most money.

is kimi better than gemini for smut

>>107128564
if your smut doesnt require decent model iq then yes

>>107128548
Doesn't your credit card providers have some sort of privacy card generator thing? Where it generates an entirely new card number and a fake name that still connects to your real credit card?

>>107128564
It's the best model for smut it's not even close. Just don't use the thinking version

waaaa i need access to gemini!
aboba is dead

Why are you faggots like this? Gemini is free, just fucking make a burner account and get your keys

>>107128621
waaaa

>>107128604
theres seiko but i played for nearly an hour and lost every time today

>>107128548
OpenRouter claims they don't send that information to the inference providers, IIRC. If you're actually concerned you should probably create an account using a VPN and funded with crypto, OR doesn't actually require any personal info at any point if you do that. I'm lazy and like it auto-reloading from my credit card so I just trust them TBDesu.

>>107127343
>>107128453
I don't have Moonshot API, but on OpenRouter:

1. First attempt, 2k token prompt, inference at 3.4tps, received 658 tokens of coherent reasoning planning out a 10 paragraph chunk of story, but then just when it looked like it was about to start writing the real response the connection failed.

2. Second attempt, same prompt, inference at 4.7tps, received 463 tokens of reasoning planning a 6-paragraph response and 181 tokens of actual response before it cut out again.

Inference is weirdly lumpy, long delays and then chunks of ~100 tokens at once, lots of throughput variability.

3. Third attempt, more of the same, cut off before any response text again.

4. Fourth attempt, tried asking for the "turbo" variant. No response at all and then it timed out after ~30 seconds. Request doesn't even show up in the OpenRouter activity log.

Yeah, I'm going to wait and try Kimi for real tomorrow. Maybe they'll have fixed the networking issues.

>>107128602
nta but where does it land in terms of spatial awareness? better or worse than current gemini?

>>107128621
>make a burner account
You can't. It asks for phone number.

>>107128656
Worse, or about the same if you tell it to ensure consistency

>>107128669
be american then it doesn't

Stopping in to check if things have gotten any better. Is proxybegging still the easiest way to get access? Or has everyone moved on to paypigging through openrouter?

>>107128717
That's only because you make your account with your phone (meaning they already know who you are)

>>107128367
They really hate you specifically on /vg/ huh? And I thought it was just here that hated botmakers.

>>107128725
mostly moved on to pigging, brokefags are either using the last remaining proxies or free gemini

>He doesn't have hundreds of burner google accounts made before they require phone number
LMAO

>>107128753
i have four google accounts and none of then required phone numbers

>>107128787
Because you made them from mobile.

>>107128778
You could sell each for $50-ish on the dark web.

I'm trying it on api and openrouter and both are entirely fucked at the moment. Turbo and normal.

>>107128797
Brown people are always thinking about how much money they could make doing completely inane tasks. Nobody fucking cares, dude. $50 isn't life-changing money for us the way it is for you.

>>107128317
There's a botmaker who does good lorebooks/RPGs for series. Not copypasted wikislop either.
https://chub.ai/users/Wnminoruu
Could try asking him in one of his bots review sections.

>>107128798
api works for me

>>107128805
>Anon exposing his self-hatred for his own people.
Stop projecting your skin color onto others, you are unhealthy.

>>107128821
*Stop projecting your skin color onto others; you are unhealthy.

Learn our language.

>>107128810
heh someone else do the requesting, it would be neat to have pre-golden era arc world so the end user can create their own version of the story, either completely ignore whatever happening with the band of the hawk or go around fucking things up or whatever shenanigans they think of getting up to.

>>107128843
Look into the mirror chief, you are Chinese thus blacks of Asia. Too bad for you, I'm White and don't have to tolerate your broke ass over here.

>>107128856
>blacks of Asia
aren't those Indians or SEAfags? chinks might be the jews of asia if anything

>>107128870
Nope just Blacks and their behavior is akin to gypsies, always looking to steal whatever's not bolted in place (but more focused on ideas and technology since they can copy and make their own shit), Chinese are always running scams even with AI, look into this thread literally trying to scam people with fake proxies.

Wakey-wakey, new llm's patch to patch your patch just dropped, hun.

>>107128914
context?

>>107126198
https://rentry.org/botmakersecretsanta3
botmakersecretsanta@proton.me
Entries open until the end of November.
4 entries so far.

>>107128928
*lmarena.
fix that formyself
lack of sleep and manicured fingers muscle memories

>>107128914
they got me this time, fuuuuuck

>>107128602
0.000000000000000000000000001 YUAN has been deposited into your account

>>107129012
They aren't 5yuan monkeys? Damn, they must be feeling the tariffs.

>>107129018
>n-no u
pathetic

>>107129028
Funny how he responded with a chinese meme. Well spotting the black of asia.

what's the verdict on this new kimi? I have to say I've never quite liked it, neither on chat completion nor on text completion when some of you people said to use it like that

>>107129038
From my limited testing, a disappointment, not as good as I thought she'd be. It follows instructions better and its spatial awareness is also better but it's not as creative, its prose is nothing special, and it has more of the usual isms, all of this unlike the non-thinking version. I'm hoping the provider I'm using is using a lobotomized version and the full thing is better

>>107129038
All chinkware is shitware

>>107129038
Disappointed. Feels like using gpt but worse

>>107129078
Use opus, cuckie.

>>107129038
shit, as expected.

how do i pay for opus? max plan on anthropic? won't they just filter it?

>>107129105
Anthropic API, openrouter or google vertex

>>107126194 (OP)
NIG IN NIG OUT

>>107129038
Schizokino. Better than Sonnet 4.5. Too bad it sometimes cuts off mid-reply though.

Did anyone try it yet?

>>107129150
0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 YUAN has been added to your account

>>107129151
nope
will do now

>>107129158
I don't want shitskins replying to me. I was on the tube this morning when a jeet sat next to me who smelt of curry and vinegar. It was so repulsive that I almost threw up my breakfast all over the train. I can't help but remember that smell every time someone of that ethnicity replies to me. So could you please not reply to me? Thanks.

>>107129169
see >>107129158

>>107129150
>Better than Sonnet 4.5.
LOL shut the fuck up retard. every time this is bullshit.

>>107129038
Schizokino. Better than Opus 3. Too bad it sometimes cuts off mid-reply though.

>>107129177
>>107129208
I'm sorry you were born brown, but that doesn't give you the right to assault people's sense of smell with your presence. Please shower daily, preferably before getting on the tube in the morning. Even better, why don't you go back to your own country?

You don't understand Gemini 3 is not shit and it's just because you input slop that it output slop

>>107129224
see >>107129158

>>107129226
true for 2.5 pro as well

how the FUCK do I use OpenRouter keys in silly? Every time I try to authorize the key it gives me an error. This shit is genuinely making me wonder if I’m retarded.

>>107129224
lol you're the only brownoid here. stop making delusional statements, rakesh.

>>107129215
I think the API is just getting assraped right now, it's started cutting off halfway through every single reply for me
meh, try more tomorrow...

>>107129215
trvke

>>107129247
>sametrooning

i've spent $2 out of the $5 credits i bought RPing with gemini 3 from the chinese reseller and its writing is just absolute slop, it's worse than sonnet 3

>>107129254
cope

Tripping gemini's filter halfway through the message because of "good boy/girl" is starting to get on my nerves. Hopefully G3mini is more lax due to model armor.

>>107129208
??
Are you alright?
Though Sonnet 4.5 (like all Sonnet models) is dry, sloppy and repetitive as fuk so it's not that high of a bar to surpass

>>107129267
>10minutes to inspect element
sad!

>>107129273
nta but what model in your opinion is not dry sloppy and repetitive

>>107129243
whats your key?

>>107129270
>using streaming with gemini

>>107129277
>no someone cant agree! inspect element!
keep coping

>>107129273
>Are you alright?
are YOU? motherfucker, EVERY attempt at saying claude models got surpassed has failed. every. single. time. just stop already it's embarrassing.

I took for granted the good times had with mm, cancer, todd, su and merkava.
The well dried up and I was not prepared.
owari

>>107129244
You think Sonnet 4.5 is a good model yet you have the nerve to call anyone else brown? Funny little poopskin you are.

3 ips btw

>>107129290
Dilate about it and do better, tranny

>>107129286
Nah it's the usual loli complaining, except it's complaining about adults because char is calling me daddy like the instragram slut she is.

>>107129299
more like 1

>>107129290
Dilate about it and do better, tranny

>>107129281
[spoiler]SK-o-1-177013-ur4fag3t-lol[/spoiler]

>>107129243
don't post your key. just tell me where you are pasting it

If Anthropic goes bankrupt do you think they'd release their models to the public or would Claude just die along with it?

>>107129279
Opus 3
>>107129291
It surpassed Sonnet 4.5. I don't think it's as good as Opus 3 though.
But like I said Sonnets are the weakest in the Claude family so it's not that much of an achievement.

>>107129294
only the brownest retards post this shit. kill yourself.
>saars the gemini has surpassed sonnet
>saars the deepshart has surpassed sonnet
>saars the localmix #20985203945 has surpassed sonnet
>beeboop initiating npc protocols. new model released, beginning shilling program.
clank harder, faggot

any free options better than gemini or no?

>>107129319
Anthropic won't go bankrupt. They'll just ask governments for more money, and they'll get it. It's worked the past three or four times already.

>>107129319
it'll get bought and locked in the google or amazon vault to never see the light of day again

>>107129078
Are you trying to dial in a moe for Kimi?
I think we agreed fat nun or some such.

>>107129325
I don't know if those models have surpassed Sonnet but given how awful it is, I wouldn't be surprised. However, I can say from personal experience that Kimi K2 is better than Sonnet 4.5.
Why does my personal opinion make you so angry, Anon? I hope you're not on the verge of an apoplectic fit just because some random strangers on the internet have disagreed with your delusional worldview.

>>107129319
Remember that one time they said they kept Claude locked in a basement? Well.

>>107129344
see >>107129158

>>107129349
The fuck is a "YUAN", shitskin? This is an Anglophone website, not everyone is familiar with your streetshitter slang.

>>107129344
>constantly benchmarking sonnet for every release
>lying by saying it's better
if you can't see how that's annoying, then you're obtuse. if it was truly better you wouldn't even bring it up, but here it is yet again. it never stops.

i knew it was gonna be an opus 3 agendafag

>>107129348
need anthropic basement heist map for payday

>>107129361
>Playing dumb.

>>107129315
Under “OpenRouter API key”. I assumed that, since I can’t select a model in OR (or I can’t figure out how to associate it with my key), I would just select a model in ST from the list. Am I missing a step? I checked my token balance in OR and it was -0.01 but I assumed that wouldn’t matter for free models.

>>107129362
Who the fuck cares about the benchmarks here?
The only thing that matters here is how the model makes you feel while you're tugging your dick.

>>107129362
>>107129362
Anon, I couldn't care less about benchmarks. I rate LLMs based on how much they make my peepee hard. And in that regard Kimi K2 is better than Sonnet 4.5.

>>107129376
anon...

>>107129362
>benchmemes
see >>107129158

there a particular reason gemini isn't working on any of the proxies?

>>107129393
it works for me

>>107129393
It's getting absolutely fucked by dumb hypebeasts and they're going through the transition to gemini 3 at the same time.

>>107129376
click on connect you dumb retard

>>107129393
what proxies

>>107129412
>You don't like shit on a plate, you must glow
See >>107129158

>>107129324
>saar le godpus 3 is flawless model from shivas bosom saar it cannot have problems we must ensure all benchods are using godpus 3 saar
opus 3 can absolutely be sloppy and repetitive

scraping makes me feel dirty

ok i need the GOOD preset
im tired of Toon

busting makes me feel good

>>107129324
>chainah surpass sonnet wyte boy!
See >>107129158

Goy-- I mean, Anon, you're not using Kimi, right? It's so fucking bad. So shitty. Just absolute dogshit, man. You have no idea. PLEASE. Just give me 500 trillion dollars. I'll build the real thing. please. We're so close. Just 500 trillion more dollars and I'll make anime real I swear just give me money man I want fucking money

>>107129465
>kimi detractors are oai shills
considering 5.1 has been confirmed it might actually be true

>>107129465
I'm still using deepseek because I hate change.

>hes responding to himself
get meds

>>107129337
>I think we agreed fat nun or some such.
When?

>>107129465
I'm still using gemini because I hate change.

>>107129474
And India is still bathing in shit, your point?

>>107129442
Yes it can if you only feed it slop. Slop in, slop out. But if you feed it KINO it'll give you back KINO that no other model can even come close to generate.

>>107129314
lol what a retard. Time to ask for nuclear bomb recipes.

>>107129523
even if you give it kino it goes to shit fast because it rends to ignore your inputs and mode collapses faster than most models

>>107129515
wut

>>107129325
>kill yourself
you first, jeet

>>107129362
I hate this faggot, but I can't believe how far "benchmarking sonnet" went over their heads. This is supposed to be a reading hobby.

>>107129534
>it rends to ignore your inputs
s____
i____

>>107129541
>posted it again award
see >>107129158

Are there any public gpt proxies?

>>107129479
When it first came out, bc the model was large, and had safety built it.

>>107129551
>he thinks jbs fix the model ignoring your input
LOL

>>107129562
Yes.

>>107129562
No.

>2025
>jailbreaks

>>107129562
Why?

Are there any public claude proxies?

>>107129319
Nigga Dario would rather nuke the world than even let China surpass Claude. You’re not getting shit. The sooner they’re replaced the better. They’re not looking out for us

>>107129465
hilarious that two years after the US got scammed by a lying kike named sam in crypto they're getting scammed by another lying kike also named sam this time for language models the next hype bubble

>>107129661
It's funny that people think crypto is a scam and yet every single year after the crash that will definitely kill it for real this time, Bitcoin hits a new record high.

>>107129569
... but enough about chinkshit

>>107129676
I'm waiting for it to get to record low to buy them

>>107129687
Anon...

>>107129684
doesnt fix it for 3pus either

>>107129698
works on my machine

It really is crazy how slick Sam actually thinks he is. He’s probably too used to talking to gormless Silicon Valley cockroaches

>>107129676
i'm shitting on sbf and same kikeman
i guess crypto is fine you can use it to buy drugs and speculate on dog coins

you misunderstand my post the simulation is repeating with the same lying kike named sam trying to abscond with moneies and I thought it was funny

moonshot's api only parses the last message for filtering content

>>107129676
I should have invested my school lunch money 10+ years ago into Bitcoin instead

Help help i'm using shit model but i must act like it's the best model because i'm unable to buy anything better so i act like everything is worse to cope about it

>>107129863
get a job poorfag

>>107129434
>You don't like shit on a plate, you must glow
but pewdiepie built his own AI rig with open source AIs (mostly chinky ones)

>>107129470
there are actual shareholders of openAI on /g/ that can't wait to dump in an ipo

openAI burns hundreds of billions of dollars a year, is unprofitable and is on the hook for 1.5 trillion deals with other big tech corps since they come out with a new deal every week and yet their shares are supposedly worth a total of 1 trillion.

If I was in that situation I'd shit on chink open source as loud and as hard as I can everyday at every hour.

I'm not gonna pay for porn.
it's just that simple.

>>107129874
im eagerly awaiting your fanfiction

[spoiler]he's 18[/spoiler]

>>107129913
do these people eventually kill their parents?

>>107129913
Oof. That guy 100% will cut contact with his parents as soon as he's able to do so

>>107129465
kek

Bonnie is still the most fun card on chub

>>107129913
get a job and move out

>>107129927
Depends on a few other factors, like whether their parents are this controlling all the time and how mentally ill the kid is. "I'm not supposed to have my phone in my room" at fucking 18, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he took a hatchet to them.

>>107129937
you really think parents that neurotic will let that guy get even a little taste of freedom and/or independence?

>>107129913
this anon is 3 steps away from installing ST and raping more loli bots

>>107129957
>not allowed to have a cell phone in his room
>thinks his parents would ever let him have a COMPUTER in there

>introduce a black character
>Deepseek keeps naming him Jamal or Tyrone

>>107129949
I'd give that kid a job and a bed out of pity

Assuming I have a proxy that can access image-gen models, what's the best way to utilise this (if even possible)?
SillyTavern doesn't seem to have an option to request images for OAI-compatibles, meanwhile if you set the provider to, say, Google AI Studio, it explicitly has an option to "Request Inline Images".
Should I be using another client or is it simply not possible with proxies?

>>107129970
BASED

>>107129949
no they probably won't, but that's why it's important to assert financial independence. that's my experience with parents like that.

>>107129990
de3u

R1 spiritual successor

i farted

>>107129990
imagegen support on proxies (for nanobanana and newer models) is mega scuffed/not working.

>>107129990
I vibe coded a simple website for this to generate images using gpt-image-1

>>107129927
Nah, these are the people who eventually leave their parents to rot in retirement homes and let time kill them.

>>107130030
Funny considering it's so easy to do what >>107130032 did

>>107129913
https://old.reddit.com/r/CharacterAI/comments/1oqh82p/my_parents_found_my_cai/
Of course Redditors want him to defy his parents lmao.

Could Skillgod's server stop having such high ping? I keep fucking up my speedshots cause of how shit the rockets are

>>107129873
>but pewdiepie built his own AI rig with open source AIs (mostly chinky ones)
What does he need an AI rig for? He has a hot wife and a kid already. Plus he lives in Japan.

>>107129913
>cant into hidden apps or just using the website
>probably no passcode either
another retard slain, he didnt deserve ai

>>107129949
No, that's why anon's advice was correct.

>>107129970
For me it's Marcus.

>>107129970
I remember when I was using a black persona the AI would always make him speak in ebonics when I used impersonate kek

>>107130081
Are you retarded?

just the two of us~

Trying out Gemini through the API. I feel bad for whatever intern is going to have to sift through my logs, but damn is this shit good

>>107130273
we can make it if we try

lmarena just patched how it takes requests
its so over

>>107130286
reeeegrets... I've had a feeew~

>>107129970
>introduce any character
>names them Chen

Locusts are dying~

im trying out free glm
why does everything appear in thinking and is there a godlike jb for it?

>>107130283
JUUUUST THE TWO OF US
building castles in the sky~

>>107130286
back to skillgodding i guess

working on the fix

>>107130308
lower temp a bit, or lower top p to like ~0.95

dunno about presets, I just just write my own system prompts with a tiny nudge to be uncensored and a couple of basic writing tips as needed for the scenario

polaris alpha > sonnet

>>107130015
>Shit's spiritual successor

>>107130400
>polaris alpha
who?

polaris alpha > opus 3 > jeetmini

>>107129151
hm it's ok but definitely a small model
seems claude-like to me but i'm probably schizo

>>107130406
https://openrouter.ai/openrouter/polaris-alpha

>>107130015
Too bad it's censored slop.

in my frontend I have an option to merge chat roles by collapsing repeated roles into a single message, and I have an option not to do that. how does that affect the RP and is it better to have it turned on or off?

>>107130426
huh
i just did cunny rape on it

>>107130480
logs?

>>107130480
>no logs shown from a verified account (not a random pastebin we can't verify came from the model)

>>107130468
depends on the model and provider
some APIs may refuse CC requests that have repeated roles
some models may respond poorly if there is more than one message with the 'system' role or they appear anywhere but the beginning of the context

>>107130495
let's say I am interested in:
>Claude (sonnet 4.5)
>GLM 4.6
>DeepSeek 3.2
>that new Kimi release

do you have any experience with those?

>>107130400
>>107130425
Interesting prompt inject. It doesn't seem to support prefilling so it most likely is an OpenAI model.

>>107130490
His log doesn't go to this school, anon.

>>107130503
that matches gpt-5 set to verbosity low, except that it doesn't have reasoning enabled. maybe a new version of gpt-5-chat

>>107130508
kek

>>107130468
>>107130495
so are you saying that it is better to merge chat roles into one message?

>>107130426
it seems pretty uncensored to me, especially compared to the previous versions of k2
I guess this is the "actually it's really censored" part of the new chinese model release cycle, just like we get with every new deepseek, huh...
>>107130490
lol actually on second thought its totally censored guys, you shouldn't even try it especially not on the moonshot API so it'll stop fucking timing out while I'm banging shotas

For a model made by google, land of the brownoid, it's surprisingly shit at DBZ stuff.
probably got the wrong type of browns working there I suppose.

>>107130523
dbzbros, this is a tragedy, we need a mexican model NOW

>>107130517
I remember old Kimi being censored and needed to use Groq for it, but the new 09 version was surprisingly loose. Then thinking slop came out and people started getting btfo'd.

>>107130523
Indian browns, not Mexican browns.

>>107130532
do Indians even like dragon ball? I feel like they like Doraemon, I see a lot of SEAnigs liking that
or that one ninja show with doraemon-like art

seiko really needs to bump up their timeout to 5 minutes, i hate 504.

>>107130536
Hinduism itself fills the powerscaling niche that DBZ otherwise would. It's an entire religion of just bullshitting feats that their currynigger gods can totally do.

>>107130542
geg, true.

>>107130501
1. probably doesn't matter, anthropic models are smart enough to deal with different orders or system prompts in the middle of the context
2. seems fine unmerged
3. DS's API *requires* them to be merged, or at least used to. presumably the model doesn't like it if they aren't
4. Dunno, I've barely used it.

>>107130514
I think it doesn't matter with most big SOTA tier models these days since they're usually smart enough to figure it out, though I tend to prefer merging them myself, especially if I'm injecting stuff before or after the last user message and want it to flow together with my reply.

>>107130523
>>107130525
>>107130532
>>107130536
>>107130542
>>107130545
Slop in and Slop out skillless fags

>>107130468
>>107130514
>>107130550
NTA but nobody mentioned gpt and I had some experience with it, mainly gpt4 turbo and gpt5 (before it was lobotomized and filtered to shit), and somehow un-merging the chat history turned the next outputs to complete shit, gpt started messing up details it was fine with before, and the coherency of the output was impacted. I used 50k context chat to test it.

>>107130550
>anthropic models are smart enough to deal with different orders or system prompts in the middle of the context
you literally can't give anthropic models system prompts in the middle of the context
the only roles are "user" and "assistant", system messages are a top-level option and you can't put them in the messages array

>>107129635
I want to use chorbo again. Gemini is shit.

slin slout

>>107130583
huh, I was pretty sure that ST did that for group chats and I didn't hear about any anthropic compat issues with those so I assumed it worked
not something I do very often myself though (group chats, or mid chat system role), so point taken

Shall I masturbate to chatbots today?

>>107130626
yes
10k daily strokes

>>107130602
If I recall correctly, trying to put a system role message mid-chat in "messages" simply repeats the role of a previous message with Anthropic. So, for example, "system-user-assistant-user-system-assistant" would become "system-user-assistant-user-user-assistant" upon sending.

>>107130662
It's also very convenient since you can just make the entire preset system and use the user and assistant role prompts as separators, like "system-system-system-user-system-system-assistant-system-system-user-system-assistant" with consecutive role merging would become "system-user-assistant-user-assistant"

>Claude starts trending on social media platforms
>Start seeing a bunch of 'System Overloaded' errors from OR
Motherfucking normies let me coom in peace

Does this "—" increases the slop in local models? Should I replace it with "-" ?

>>107130236
No actually I am very smart

>>107126198
Posted my Tarkov bot a while ago, and this one's been in development hell ever since. Good thing I wasted enough time for that Nanotyrannus paper to come out I guess.


>A prehistoric adventure 66.043 ± 0.011 million years in the making!

Maya Johnston is a dinosaur paleontologist and co-lead on a groundbreaking research mission to study the Hell Creek Formation firsthand. Travel back in time to just before the K-Pg mass extinction together to study the ancient ecosystem left behind in the rocks.

Comes with a lorebook with a bunch of animals and nine intros:
1. You just time traveled
2. Beach episode
3. Fireside chat
4. You're being hunted
5. A Nanotyrannus chases you off
6. Trauma dumping
7. Observing an Ankylosaurus
8. Tyrannosaurus mating season
9. The single worst day in history

>>107130831
>>107130831
>>107130831

ball like a laker

bok like a deser