Thread 107135137

Does this guy know what he’s talking about or is he full of shit?

This guy shilling for AdNauseam claims this tool fights the ad-machine by automatically clicking ads you don’t want, messing with the metrics and revenue streams of intrusive platforms. On the surface it sounds smart, but I wanted to get the /g/ opinion.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GeCq1qwqjc

https://adnauseam.io/

nose status?

>>107135137 (OP)
I don't even know if that works.
Anyways alot of people have said this before but it clicking links might lead to things that are not safe.

>>107135137 (OP)
Because with ublock he doesnt get paid. He only cares about himself.

>>107135137 (OP)
AdNauseam is a cool idea but does nothing they and Rossman says it does, it's fucking worthless, all it does is give you longer load times vs uBO, hell even ABP does better.

that doesn't sound correct

>>107135137 (OP)
Anyways Ublock origins is better.

>>107135148
If that is important for you, FYI he's a 'NYC mutt' but his surname is Germanic (-mann instead of -man).

>On the surface it sounds smart, but I wanted to get the /g/ opinion.
He seems to care (and or talk with people that cares) more about the current problem with the internet than the usual people.
A more detailed on counter ads and datamining would be a waste of time.

Unlike other youtubers he's organizing more useful things like the wiki with guides, post COVID killed a lot of security guides, etc. (cyberpunks are dead, lmao)

>>107135262
He's videos aren't monetized and he is openly advocating use of adblockers
He's sometimes wrong about things like everyone but he has no problem admitting he was wrong if pointed out
It doesn't surprise me shill filled board like /g/ would shit on him

>>107135376
>inb4
>He's videos
>He's
I know. I'm ESL. Get over it

>>107135137 (OP)
AdNauseam is illegal network traffic interference abuse

>>107135424
sounds kinda based, might try it out

>>107135376
>He's videos aren't monetized
His videos are monetized though.
>he is openly advocating use of adblockers
Armchair-activist
>shill filled board like /g/
Alright nobody is preventing you to go home to reddit.com
Also fuck these filters.

>>107135436
you can't, because google banned it from their app store due to being freetard malware ddos garbage

>>107135424
>>107135463
I'm doing NNN please don't post clussy.

>>107135137 (OP)
seems like a bad idea. the fake clicks will likely be easily filtered, so it won't affect CPM metrics. otoh, instead of blocking all connections to the ad server, you will be connecting to every ad server and telling them what site you are visiting, effectively allowing them to track you.

>>107135137 (OP)
>>107135326

no, he's a jew.

he's refused to call out the jew.

>uhhh all this spyware who either have jewish or ceos answering only to jewish politicians?
>nah, jews dindu nuffin!

>>107135137 (OP)
>Yes goy. You shouldn't block our ads. Instead, you should click on all of our ads. That is the best way to fight the system!

>>107135262
He isn't the "I'm going to sell you out to get rich at your expense" guy. He's the "what's good for the goose is good for the gander" guy.

>>107135505
>>107135488
ok JIDF
Now fuck off.

eceleb grifter thread

>>107135424

I member when Palememe (slogan "Your browser, Your way) forcibly uninstalled and blocked the AdNauseum extension because it "undermines (((advertiser income)))

>>107135463
>app store
what makes you think I'm a filthy phone poster?

>>107135480
It's not exactly trivial to filter fake clicks, but yes it can be done.

But I think Rossmann has seen the power of the crowd, and has become a fan of Kant. If EVERYONE did Adnauseum, then the Ad Economy would die, which is a good thing.

This is really a philosophical and legal debate about ETHICS not about technical details.
The best argument against Ad Nauseum is that it is "click fraud" and therefore illegal.
The counter argument is that you don't personally make money using Ad Nauseum so it's not fraud, and your "protest click" is 1st Amendment protected speech.
Then you have the old Linus Tech Tips arguments that advertising is part of the "social contract."
Compared to the device ownership argument of pro-adblock.
Adblock has never really came up in Court before, so Rossmann better be picking a fight and willing to cover legal defense.

The general consensus was to not defend Ad Nauseum being removed from the extension stores, to build a moral high ground, assuming internet companies like Google were operating in good faith, but that users do have a fundamental right to block traffic to their device.
I would argue that ManifestV3, and other changes, revoked Google's good faith privileges, thus backlash is warranted.

>>107135533
Nah, it's a lib getting mad and doesn't have proof whether it does or doesn't have an effect. he is assuming it does work.
Also palemoon is a meme.

>>107135137 (OP)
Think about it logically. What do you accomplish when you install adnauseum? You generate revenue for the ad exchange (Google/Meta) at the expense of ad buyers. While it may be morally right to fuck over any and all entities involved in online advertising, fucking over one entity while enriching another just makes you an agent for the latter. Don't be Google's good little goy, just use an ad blocker like a normal person.

>>107135693
>Adblock has never really came up in Court before
What about what is happening in germany though, they want to ban it.

>>107135712
Nonamerican countries don't matter lol

>>107135722
>Nonamerican countries don't matter lol
Wrong mentality, if it happens somewhere else other countries like the US will just copy it if it benefits the corporation.

>>107135722
what's that? couldn't hear you over my five weeks paid vacation (four mandated by law, my employer gives one extra). But i guess i'm replying to a NEET lol

>>107135722
>t. "please ignore the consumer rights of Europeans"

>>107135735
It's the other way around.
What the US does other countries copy.
The US has a very powerful Constitution and Courts can overturn basically any law, hence draconian laws in other countries like those UK laws won't really work here.

States passed internet ID laws before UK went full retard, but Stares have zero enforcement capabilities, or the ability to stop VPNs.
If it starts having a real measurable effect on free speech, Courts will revisit it and kill it.
The US will never get as bad as UK or Germany in this respect, it's all a soft-power approach here.

>>107135780
>he really believes this
lmaoing in swiss

>>107135440
I admit I was wrong on first point.
You calling him armchair activist is pointless. He promotes and encourages people to keep adblock on even on his channel and has shilled for sponsorblock
He can't really come into someone's house and install it. He has put out so much info about it you have to be retard at this point if you watch him and not have some sort of adblock

I genuinely hope people aren't retarded enough to install this shit...

>>107135137 (OP)
Just answer this simple question, do you like wasting your bandwidth and your compute resources just to screw advertisers? If yes, use AdNauseam; if no, use uBlock Origin.

>>107135262
AdNauseam doesn't pay either, views aren't converted into affiliate/partnered/sponsored products and services sold to consumers.
That is the actual metric that the advertisers will see.

>>107135478
>I'm doing NNN
Based and same.

>please don't post clussy.
Eww, what a shit taste.

>>107135521
>JIDF
Don't even bother replying, JIDF is no more, in classic jew fashion they just use AI bots now, they don't have to pay actual shills.

>>107135478
im sorry

>>107135137 (OP)
What a fucking retard holy shit. I usually support Louis but not this time. He'd be literally giving money to ad providers. Just use ublock origin
What the fuck is he doing. I hopes he takes this down or gets told how retarded this is

>>107137075
Lmao, he's poisoning the well of ads, that is not giving money to ads providers but killing their already waning credibility.

>>107135137 (OP)
>>107135705
>>107136782
Wait, this shit is happening clientside? Why the fuck would you WANT your browser to interact with the ads? I give it 11 minutes before some hacker finds a way to fuck with you maliciously by having it interact with a malware ad

Just use ublock origin. I don't give a shit whether the ad companies succeed or fail as long as I don't have to see the shit on my screen.

>>107137411
You're forced to interact with ads, even UBO only breaks them before rendering but they are executed in the most part. That was the internet Google forced onto us 15 years ago and that's why except for Firefox others Browsers couldn't keep with the ever-changing protocols created to force this situation.
You can't half-execute most websites and not breaking it.

>>107135137 (OP)
It clicks all the ads? including the ones that are malware?

Adnausium was a cute idea back in the day, but these days with browser fingerprinting and IP reputation it's a good way to get yourself shadowbanned from shit.

A currytube video loaded once when I opened my browser and it started to play before my extensions were loaded and I saw an ad of a mulatto woman picking up something for a second, I was traumatised, imagine watching ads all day

>>107137492
Well shit, I'm probably no safer than someone using the latest pozzed nightly chrome.

>>107135262
Stop lying. You sound like a gay asshole.

>>107137496
Malware ads aren't themselves malware. They are ads that attempt to trick the user into installing malware. Simulating clicks on them does not lead to installing malware. It is inert. In the extremely rare case that the ad itself is malware, ie it has a sandbox escape, xss, etc, not clicking on it wouldn't protect you from the malware. In the occasional case that it did need a user interaction, eg to steal the clipboard contents, a simulated click would not qualify.

>>107135137 (OP)
>>107135148
>>107135303
If it actually worked they would have banned it from the extension stores long ago.

>>107137411
Yep, and even if there is no risk as if there were no hackers, your device would use compute resources for nothing.

>>107137492
That is true but only partially. Most of the ad requests are blocked at the network level as they can be easily filtered by FQDN. The rest is covered by fixing page layout and styles so websites don't look weird.
The edge cases are handled by per site rules that you picked in your uBlock Origin settings.

>That was the internet Google forced onto us 15 years ago
Not really, people get blinded by free money for ad space because they actually pay you for showing ads on your site.
No one is forcing a website to show ads, webmasters chose to implement them themselves because they make them money.

>>107137788
Why do you think they are getting rid of Manifest V2 in favour of Manifest V3?

>>107137863
>Why do you think they are getting rid of Manifest V2 in favour of Manifest V3?
to prevent you from blocking ads at all. they couldn't just ban ad block period because the backslash would be too much but nobody would've cared about this extension that nobody actually uses.

>>107137788
It is banned

>>107135424
Then maybe the advertisers should stop abusing our networks to try and force feed us malware and scams.

>>107136979
Why is there a black spot on her nose?

>>107135533
for some reason i thought main firefox did this
guess i was using pale meme at the time

>>107135137 (OP)
please tag your advertisement threads so i can filter them

it's a fine addon but i just don't care for it. but it's a bit odd to hype it up this much.

Really the play here would be to set up some sort of SETI@home arrangement where people could donate spare cpu time to flood ad sites with bogus requests with garbled fingerprinting 24/7.

>>107135137 (OP)
I remember adnauseam from years ago.

He's retarded.

>>107135424
So any automation is illegal?
Can Siri read me the AD?
I can’t use assistive interfaces for disabled users?
I have my mouse acceleration set too high so it’s “illegal”?

>>107135137 (OP)
hes normally pretty legit but this video made me lose some faith

>>107140187
Cope harder.
There is lots of reasons to use it, or something like it. Poisoning this one stream helps, but it’s not enough.

>>107135137 (OP)
If (((Rossmann))) isn't a Jew.

If Google refuses to pay him per click.

Why is he refusing to name the Jew for being behind all of the surveillance, anti-repair laws and everything else that's negative?

Why is he refusing to show support for Palestinians who Jews are using as lab rats for every thing that he wants you to think he hates?

>>107135137 (OP)
>Does this guy know what he’s talking about
When it comes to fixing macbooks, and other consumer electronics, yes
When it comes to data recovery, yes he has the equipment and staff for it
When it comes to actually using software and other aspects of computer hardware, not at all

I wouldn't listen to him about any of that. He can hack stuff together but usually in a terribly unoptimized way. "When all you have is a hammer everything is a nail" seems to be his approach.

I find it really weird adnauseam is getting so much exposure now. Last I heard of it was like 10 years ago and everyone moved onto piholes if they were serious about blocking ads. I guess it's taken on something of a political protest usage now rather than just as a way to combat ads.

He's the only one resisting against tech jewing, i don't know about adnauseam and I don't have the bandwidth for it. But on the whole this guy is solid and is doing god's work educating normies

>>107135148
he's an anti-nose nose haver. an absolute riot and enthusiast.

>>107135137 (OP)
holy fucking adnauseum shills how many times do you have to get chased out of here

>clicks ads for you in the background
>makes google money in the background
>makes small businesses lose money in the background

FUCK OFF JEET SHILL WORKING FOR JEWS (whole adnauseum team is israeli)

>>107138364
Trannyfox removed it from their Mozilla Add-ons store but didn't forcibly block people from installing it

>>107135759
>gets paid 30 eurodollars an hour

>>107135148
Louis of Italian descent, I know they have kinds dark skin and sometime look like Jews but they're not jews.

>>107135137 (OP)
We had discussions about this extension many years ago on /g/. The conclusion that every intelligent person reached is that advertising is here to stay, and it wouldn't benefit any of us to give advertisers a reason to further develop anti ad blocking capabilities.
The best course of action is to use ublock origin yourself, and then never recommend it to anyone else.

>>107142884
literally this
plus most normies don't appreciate it anyway when you recommend them something unpronounceable that would make their lives better. hell, some of them like looking at ads for things to buy.

>>107135137 (OP)
>by automatically clicking ads you don’t want
there used to be software for that and you'd get paid
AdN
>site thinks ad was viewed
>site shows the customer and he thinks his ad was viewed
>site gets paid

UBO
>site thinks ad was not viewed
>site shows the customer and he thinks his ad was not viewed
>site doesn't get paid
>customer is frustrated cause he wasted time and could've used other ways to sell more
>site is frustrated cause it doesn't get paid


Just use UBO.

>>107137472
And it doesn't load in your system and wastes your resources.

>>107143129
>AdN
>someone discovers GA can't prove that the ads were 'taken' by bots or people that is just interested in removing them by bleeding
>now GA has legal problems with people that considers themselves ripped off, or to force a new ToS that means no responsibility and guarantees

>>107135148
protruding

>>107143170
thee fault is not at the site that didn't detect the problematic software the fault is with the users of the software, if the site can show good intent and no neglect they can get away with it

>>107135440
>armchair activist
He went to Congress to fight for your right to repair and had some succes you fat lazy cunt. I can't stand his videos because he goes on and on but at least he puts his all into the things he believes in.

>>107135693
>click fraud
That's a buzzword if I've ever seen one. You can't make clicks illegal, sounds ridiculous. If you don't want automated systems doing automated stuff go put ads in the physical world not inside an automated system.

>>107135424
Clussy.

>>107137411
>I give it 11 minutes
This extension already existed 10 years ago, genius.

>>107143967
>That's a buzzword if I've ever seen one.
It's actually not new at all. And yeah lying about what you're doing on a computer is fraud. If someone says they'll pay you for <x> and you trick them into thinking <x> happened when it didn't you've committed fraud.

>>107135137 (OP)
Never trust someone with butthole eyes

>>107144290
Never trust someone with insomnia?

1) The clicks are not getting filtered, so google and site owners are getting free money.
2) The clicks are getting filtered, so you just load some random shit in the background for no reason.

>>107137788
AdNauseum is banned. B

>>107135137 (OP)
what's weird is that most people seem to be perfectly ok with ads. i suppose it's a boiling frog situation. internet ads have always bothered me since the early 2000s.

>>107135137 (OP)
I like him for his stance on many things, including shitting in Linus and Yvonne earlier this year, but this sounds retarded

>>107141718
he probably doesnt want to get banned from jewtube

>>107141718
>jidf trying to forced their local genocide to cull americans improving laws and rights
Every single time.

>>107135137 (OP)
>listening to clippy nigger
lol lmao even