Thread 107141933

>What phone has X and Y feature?
Don't ask, use these!
https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare-smartphones
https://phonedb.net/index.php?m=device&s=query

Good Resources:
>Reviews
https://www.gsmarena.com
https://www.phonearena.com
https://www.notebookcheck.net

>Frequency Checkers
https://www.frequencycheck.com
https://kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker
https://willmyphonework.net

>Visual Phone Size Comparison
https://phonesized.com/
https://www.phonearena.com/phones/size

>Everything rooting and custom ROM related
>Beware carrier variants with locked bootloaders
https://www.xda-developers.com/

>Debloat your stock ROM
https://github.com/Universal-Debloater-Alliance/universal-android-debloater-next-generation

>Open source Android applications
https://f-droid.org/

>Android App compatibility list for de-googled phones
https://plexus.techlore.tech/

>Custom ROMs suggestions, privacy guides
https://gearjail.neocities.org/

>Recommended phones
https://www.gsmarena.com/smartphone_buyers_guide-review-2036.php

>Try out a real OS on your iToy
https://trygalaxy.com

>Post a mini-review of your phone
>Ignore and report the Apple troll that floods and spams /spg/
>Discuss upcoming and current models
>Ask for help related to phones
>Tell us how many shekels you spent on a good/bad phone

Previous thread: >>107121654

First for Samsung inventing the smartphone

Second for samsung copying apple

2020-2025 Global Smartphone Sales!

Hey lads, quick question. I've got a BV8900 phone. I've had smartart and live wallpaper tabs keep making push notifications so I uninstalled both. But they still kept happening.
I checked here a couple threads ago and an anon recommended Shizuku and Package manager because I'm not very tech savy when it comes to phones, and I did find the hidden installations of the two apps with package manager and removed them. I've checked, they've not been re-installed, but as you can see by picrell, they're STILL sending notifications. And they're locked in settings so I cannot disable them there.
Any ideas on what to do next? Any app that works with Shizuku that lets me unlock locked settings?

Q2 2025 Top Selling Smartphones.
Q3 2025 Results Soon.
Only smartphones that offer the best experience and have an excellent customer service track record hold the top spots.
When will an Android be number 1 in the top 10 selling smartphones category?

https://counterpointresearch.com/en/insights/global-smartphone-sales-top-10-best-sellers

>>107142191
Long press the notifications and turn them off? Or is your phone too cucked?

The A19 Pro beats the s25 ultra, oneplus 15, find x9 pro, xiaomi 17 pro max and the red magic 11 pro too. The new Apple M5 chips mog the Qualcomm X2-90, X2E-96-100 btw. That’s why the troll posts older Apple devices since they don’t want to post the truth about the current state of Apple vs Qualcomm chips.
OnePlus 15 >>107060799
Red Magic 11 Pro >>107060848
Find X9 Pro >>107060839
Xiaomi 17 Pro Max >>107137997

OnePlus won!!!

The A19 Pro beats the s25 ultra, oneplus 15, find x9 pro, xiaomi 17 pro max and the red magic 11 pro too. The new Apple M5 chips mog the Qualcomm X2-90, X2E-96-100 btw. That’s why the troll posts older Apple devices since they don’t want to post the truth about the current state of Apple vs Qualcomm chips.
OnePlus 15 >>107060799
Red Magic 11 Pro >>107060848
Find X9 Pro >>107060839
Xiaomi 17 Pro Max >>107137997

>>107142182
>>107142196
>>107142249
reminder this spammer troll is evading his bans

>>107142249
Reminder the A19 Pro is a beast!
>>107049030
>>107049066
>>107049143
The anon that troll posts all the old devices and lies itt about smartphones, posted the iPhone 15 Pro Max vs Galaxy S23 Ultra vs Pixel 8 Pro gaming comparison post which got nuked. >>>>107121988

Wtf happened to budget android phones? They all use the same 7300 ultra processor which is 4 years old by now performance wise. There are literally no cheap phones worth buying anymore

Reminder this >>107142478 is theanon posting all the iPhone and Samsung hate is the same person that spams and harasses other posters itt.

>>107122512
>>107140326

>>107142532
do you want a car or a phone?

Reminder this >>107142478 is the anon posting all the iPhone and Samsung hate and the same person who spams and harasses other posters itt.
They also abuse the reporting system too with fake spam report submissions.
>>107122512
>>107140326

>>107141933 (OP)
OnePlus 15 next week~

My Xiaomi actually beats the iPhone 17 Pro Max in multi core

>>107142765
ummmmm anon.... >>107142249

>>107142787
what

>>107142787
the base iPhone 17 A19 has higher results...
>>107142249 omg

that's pretty good, no?

>>107143115
Xiaomi 17 is performing rather poor.
>pic rel
My garb S25U with 8Elite.

>>107143147
The average for S25 Ultra is 2.8 million, why is your score so much higher

Is there a Qualcomm smartphone that's better in every way than my Poco X5 Pro 5G? No chink phones, no chink UI, no mediakek ~$350-$400

Asias Smartphone Market Share 2023-now

Very interesting how they predominantly stay away from their own Asian brands.

Finally switched to iphone 17 pro max from my 5 year old samsung. Pretty nice, but I lost half my text messages because android to iOS transfer is shit

>>107143373
You just transferred incorrectly. So many working options exist. I got 10+ years in the cellular industry. only old voicemail can't be transferred. great choice btw! :)

>>107143281
One UI 8 improvements.

>>107143441
Thanks. Yeah, maybe I did. I don't know, but I'm liking all the new features

>>107143115
1 million is already enough for casual use

>>107143373
>because android to iOS transfer is shit
I can't believe they still haven't nailed this. I tried to transfer my whatsapps and just fucking gave up in the end.

Is Nothing Phone (3a) Lite good?

>>107143526
Probably not. Just get the 3a.

>>107143441
Any strats for doing this? I've tried that app that apple make to go from android to ios and it was pure dogshit

>>107143483
whatsapp has its own built in backup and recovery its very easy

>>107143526
nyo

>>107141933 (OP)
Anything with no front camera after Zenfone 8 Flip? Is that the most modern I can get?

North Americas Smartphone Market Share 2023-now

Is the base iPhone 17 the only update path for someone who loves his Galaxy S23 and wants something that's batter in every way with no compromise?
S25 is the same shit as the S23, no major improvements. Chinkshit, I'd rather hang myself than use a fucking Vivo or Oppo phone. Pixel is a meme that makes sense for privacy freaks and criminals only.
iPhone 17 on the other hand has better cameras, better screen, same form factor, much better processor, insane battery life for the battery capacity thanks to Apple's OS being kneecapped and cucked in terms of background activity, and the only downsides are, what, no number row on the keyboard, no Mihon, no YT Vanced, and doesn't work well with my Samsung buds and Sony headphones?
That last part might be a deal-breaker honestly, but otherwise I'm tempted bros...

>>107144038
iPhone is your best option

>>107144038
Android is really falling off and im not saying that as an applefag. There are no android phones worth buying at the moment. You might as well just stay with the s23 if you really don’t want to switch

>>107144038
Using Samsung Buds3 with an iPhone at this very second, works fine just no firmware updates. Play pause volume all work. Sony headphones work fine too.

>>107144146
Went from a Pixel 6 Pro to a 10 Pro recently and there isn't a single "killer" feature that differentiates the two. It would be nice if stagnation lead to a new era of crazy phones like they ones being banded around towards the end of the pre-smartphone era.

>>107144239
I have the Buds FE (original) and Sony XM4 (bought last week for 130 bucks). The concern was no SSC and LDAC on iPhone.

>>107144297
I had the XM4 and they used AAC on Samsung and iPhone even after toying with the quality settings.

If you're an audiophile you aren't using wireless kek.

Europes Smartphone Market Share 2023-now

>>107143299
That’s really interesting desu

the spamming autist is really working overtime today huh

>>107144384
What spam are you talking about? I only see people posting facts about smartphones in the smartphone general. You're not lying and just upset about the facts are you?

>>107141933 (OP)
Fuck thin phones and fuck google forlocking down android.

HELP ME DECIDE RIGHT MEOW! Nubia Z80 Ultra for 650€ or S25 Edge for 600$?

>>107143795
Nah not for transferring from iOS to Android, or vice-versa, it's a fucking pain if both devices are already setup.

>>107145022
pick whatever fits best in your life senpai!
>>107145031
the way I did it was that on my old phone I backed up WhatsApp and used the number attached to my WhatsApp on the new phine and it just brought everything in from the back up, you dont have to pay or anything its free. Its done right through WhatsApp. maybe in settings you had backup turned off or you changed your phone number and thats why it didnt do what it did for me.

>>107144146
I only prefer Android because of the offline gallery and music apps, and it's easy to transfer files to windows. If not for that, I'd probably be an applefag.

>>107145046
Both of them are good for their own good in that price range so I really don't know. The Edge has obviously battery issues, but decent tech and the Z80 Ultra has an enormous battery but some tech and software issues. I.e. the latter has a very shitty selfie camera.

>>107144038
I'm tempted too desu and have similar feelings, Sony headphones (Xm4) and all

I'm coming from an S23+ and want something smaller and my only choices are: an S25, which is kinda boring since it's literally the same phone but smaller that I have now with no real upgrades, a zflip 7 since it's smaller (using the little screen) and it would be something different, but then I have to deal with the anxiety of fucking up that inner screen, or the iPhone. And, all things considered, for the price I think the 17 is the nicest option. I like pixel devices but the fact that the new ones use their own chip and its dog shit turns me off since I would want to be able to play games on my phone if I want.

>>107145047
I dont know what you mean but we have off-line galleries and music apps too. I think you forgot that the iPhone has an iPod built into it since the first ever model. you can also easily transfer files to Windows since forever. You just plug the phone into your computer and you can even use it as a hard drive and you can plug SSDs and USB flash drives into the iphone and transfer files directly into the phone without a computer, I dont know why you think an iPhone would not be capable of such simple smartphone tasks in 2025. kek

>>107145061
well it sounds like the camera is important to you so go that route. I think the edge is pretty cool though, but thats just my opinion

i miss the sharp corners of the s24

>>107144038
Just jump ship like I did.

>>107145266
based

Is Nothing a good brand? Does it have a Samsung Knox alternative?

>>107145266
The pro looks so ugly I'm not even considering it...

do I buy mom A56 256GB or S24 Fe 256GB

>>107145509
nah speak for yourself

Buying a pro max to doomscroll TikTok and shitpost is like buying rtx 5090 to play Roblox, no one in this thread needs a phone better than 13 mini.

>>107145600
He's right...

>>107145600
>>107145610
>13 mini
What are you guys? Munchkins from the wizard of oz or something?

>>107145600
A pro max is cheap tho. Look at what google charges for a pixel 10 with shit soc and shit battery life. With the latest pro max you will be good for the next 7 years. The 13 mini is already way too outdated. 60 hz is just awful to look at

>>107145600
*Buying a redmagic 11 pro

>>107143835
>no front camera
because of schizo reasons or aesthetic reasons? no to the former, otherwise
xperia 10 vii
redmagic 11 pro

>>107141933 (OP)
Chudphone enjoyers, giver her a follow: https://x.com/iHateApplee

>>107145087
iPhones want everything backed up to iCloud. You can't just upload music files and open them in iTunes. It wants everything synched up.

Are you guys unable to recommend a good budget phone? I've been asking for one the past month

>>107146165
not true at all anon, you can play music you downloaded with vlc and skip itunes and apples music app

>>107146188
Just plugged my iPhone in using USB-cable
I was able to open a couple of image and mp4 files, then it wouldn't let me open anything.
I keep getting 0x800700AA error "the requested resource is in use"
Like I said, this shit just isn't painless.

>>107146167
Read the op or buy a 13 mini

So the only way to get an sd card slot with a good soc in 2025 are android consoles, gaming tablets and sony xperia 1?

>>107146230
let me see a screenshot because i never have that issue. so many people literally on the vlc and iphone subreddit all use our own downloaded mp3 files with vlc. its the only easiest option for now. im not trying to be rude. Its just that people have been doing this for over four years and nobody ever mentioned what you were saying. I only know how to do this because of Reddit seriously I was about to buy a MP3 player because I have all this music downloaded from a long time ago and Im not gonna just stop listening to it.

>>107146188
vlc has been working officially with CarPlay for 2 years as well so you can download music and play it in your car. Works for me no issue and I would never pay for a music subscription service.

>>107146274
I looked it up. Some people said putting your phone in airplane mode should fix it, but that didn't do shit for me. iPhones by nature just aren't designed to play nice with Windows.

>>107146366
can i see a screenshot because I dont believe you. you can airdrop files if you have mac or with windows use bluetooth also, but i use my google drive. i think youre making it up.

>>107146382
It says "copying the file" but all I'm doing is double-clicking to open it from file explorer.

>>107146407
you can use dropbox, one drive or google drive. also you can use VLC's Wi-Fi sharing feature to transfer files like I do. i have over 2,000 mp3s I have been using for a long time

>>107146430
>you can use dropbox, one drive or google drive
I know I can. But I can plug my android into my pc and use it seamlessly or transfer files over bluetooth without a hitch. iPhones are built to be used within their own ecosystem.

>>107146430
adding to this.
that also says a picture not a mp3 in your pic. its not really that complicated. Maybe you should watch a YouTube video because no one else is having this issue. have you not heard of cloud storage? you could even do a wireless option with VLC and its built in wifi sharing. Im trying to help you and Im not trying to be rude.

>>107146167
f7 pro when they go on a massive chink sale in 3 days

>>107146445
there it is you finally admitted it. Youre just making it up. I knew it and youre just trying to prove that android is better and thats not the case. youre just lying bro and I dont care. Its just pathetic. I can send files to my phone with Bluetooth. I can AirDrop it with Mac. I can use cloud storage and I can plug it in to my windows pc with no issue. Youre just making it up.

>>107146464
literally everybody with an iPhone does pic related and this person in here is straight up lying saying that they dont and VLC officially added CarPlay support two years ago because of the popularity of iphone users and vlc. its works without any issues. >>107146347

My samsung note may need a replacement soon.

Ideally I want something without notch/hole, I also with 3.5mm jack, sd card and the ability (and if it's an android) to root due to google sideloading cuckolding that will happen in year or two. Something that's under 600 euros
What do /spg/entlemen recommend?

>>107146505
Just install file transfer app from AppStore. You can send any song via web browser from any computer, app has built in player that supports MP3, FLAC etc. Free and working solution even for Linux users. Uses FTP protocol.
https://apps.apple.com/pl/app/file-transfer-app/id1233997232?l=pl

>>107143604
NTA, but I downloaded the move to ios v3.5 apk from apk mirror, and it worked a little bit better.
Still sucked some ass, and wound up spinning a VM with iTunes/drivers and a torrented copy of easeus mobimover that did the trick

>>107145022
Assuming they didn't fuck up the camera defaults then the nubia, but that's a big assumption because the z70 series all had fucked up hardcoded camera defaults

>>107146546
>send songs via web browser
>mp3 and flac support
>built in mp3 player too with CarPlay support
>works on Apple, windows and Linux
Based and people wanna lie in the thread and tell you that iPhones are not compatible with PC. Kek.

>>107146528
i would say your only choice is the xperia 10 vii but sadly it has a weak soc

Reminder:
Make sure to keep your smartphone display clean and to remove old screen protectors with lint, pubes and air bubbles stuck on them. The anon in pic related unfortunately doesn’t know how to apply one properly without the air bubbles, lint and pubes. :(

>>107144038
>Chinkshit, I'd rather hang myself than use a fucking Vivo or Oppo phone
Explain the autistic hate boner 4chuds have for Chinese phones. Is it inferiority complex?

>>107146464
Making what up? I showed you fucking proof, applefag. You cannot just plug in an iPhone and access your files.

>>107145266
The first pro max I ordered a few weeks ago got "lost" at the UPS warehouse. I'm sure it was stolen, but apple was good and replaced it quick. Finally got my phone yesterday

>>107146869
there you go again, just trolling and lying and not capable of having a civil discussion. im not gonna speak to you anymore because I politely gave you options and a different anon chimed in and gave you an different option. you just keep making stuff up you can easily plug your iPhone into a pc and it works. Nobody besides you is saying it doesnt work.

>>107145266
>>107146886
The 17 pro and pro max are so damn ugly. It's definitely the ugliest high end phone


The 16 pro was way more beautiful but of course it had the same old tired design

>>107146844
Hollywood use iPhones and not Chinese phones to make movies and other professional production companies have used iPhones to make TV shows and music videos. multi million dollar professional production companies use iPhones to film and Im sure that means they have good camera.

hyperos is the most bloated piece of shit I have ever seen if you take a lot of time to remove the ads filled apps some functions simply stop working. Also pi-hole registered like 10 telemetry connections to fuck knows where

>>107146904
Yeah, I liked the 16 pro max design better. But I'm fine with the 17. Plus I just wanted to upgrade from my five year old phone

>>107145266
>>107146886
My iPhone 17 Pro Max just got here and it’s made in China! Let’s gooooo!!!!! Time to add sidestore and some of my own downloaded ipa files.

>>107146967
Is China better quality? I just checked and mine's from India

>>107145144
You mean the ultra anon?

>>107146979
Doesn’t happen to me on my device and I got 26.2 beta. I haven’t been home all day and I have 54% with 5g ON and I’ve been working for seven hours now streaming videos too.

>>107147011
Forgot to mention, I have a iPhone 17 Pro Max

>>107146988
can you post a picture of the back of the box please?

>>107146714
I'll check it out

>>107146991
Cooker moment

Anyone in here got an iPhone 17 or 17 pro what's your battery life looking like?
I'm in the US so I would be able to get the e-Sim version that has the slightly larger battery size for the pro but I don't know if that shit is really worth it.

>>107142191
>>107142223
Sorry it took so long to reply anon.
Holding does nothing.

>>107147080
see >>107147011 >>107147028
I have 100% battery health and no issues my iphone 17 pro max lasts all day and night

>>107146991

>>107147078
Coomer**

Fuck im using a new phone with the Gboard and it has autocorrect

>>107146928
U delulu if you think they actually use some phone for professional production

>>107146528
>sideloading cuckolding
nothingburger

>>107147091
Ya m8 you might be fucked. That's brutal. Maybe you can use adb to disable the apps fully, but those are system notifications and AFAIK cannot be turned off.

>>107147133
I only post the truth in here, pal. even old school directors admit it helps using iPhones
www.sandmarc.com/blogs/iphone-filmmaking/steven-soderbergh-iphone-filmmaking-a-deep-dive

>>107147080
That does sound nice just that I'm more interested in the regular or pro because of the size rather than the pro Max.

>>107147155
>Maybe you can use adb to disable the apps fully,
Damn how much more disabled can it get than uninstalling it and using a package manager to remove all the files from the device.
Why is android such a fucked platform?

>>107147193
>>107147080
honest review here at the link if you wanna check it out
https://www.tomsguide.com/phones/iphones/iphone-17-battery-life-results-are-in-how-do-the-new-iphones-compare-to-other-flagships

>>107147208
It's not Android, really, it's the ROM from your manufacturer. Google lets them (and carriers) get away with murder.

>>107143147
It's over...

>>107147125
Use SwiftKey. It has a better autocorrect

Where do I figure out what tablet to get?

>>107147252
Is uninstalling push notifications not an option? Is it like a vital component?

>>107147389
Usually you can turn them off BUT those are system notifications and cannot be disabled. Pretty fucked. What brand is the phone?

>>107145266
>>107144038
>>107144118
>>107144146
>>107144038
get a toilet currynigger

>>107143835
Just put tape over it

>>107147091
enable notification history and see whats the app name that does that then try to uninstall with adb shell pm uninstall com.packagename
or use systemui tuner with shizuku, set custom duration to like 10 years and snooze the notification

>>107144791
Thin phones are nice, they just need a headphone jack

>>107147404
>What brand is the phone?
Blackview. Model bv8900.

>>107145068
Samsung and Apple have really squeezed the market. It doesn't help that every phone is basically the same, there is very little variance or innovation happening. We're due for a new product to make smartphones obsolete.

>>107145087
How can you have an iPod without a headphone jack?

>>107145422
Nothing is a joke. Get ready to have ads inserted into your phone with a future update. Never trust chink phones.

>>107146153
Why does she sound like a landwhale?

Is there a secret to get phones like Xiomai/Nubia/Redmagic in the US or Canada on carriers like AT&T or Rogers that do IMEI whitelisting. I already have postpaid AT&T and 6 lines I don't want to migrate to a different carrier. If there's no way my best option seems to be OnePlus right now since Rogers officially supports them and I have a US-CAN-MX plan.

How are you guys actually using these phones on networks in the US or Canada?

my girlfriend has a 17 pro max in orange and i have a $150 motorola.

>>107146464
Apple is nigger tier. The other day I tried sending a screenshot to an iPhone and it wouldn't let me. Apple is actively making technology worse with their retarded ideas and the worst thing is other companies are copying their shitty tactics.

>>107147570
This nigga doesn't have RCS laugh at him

>>107146546
Why do Apple users act like technology from 30 years ago is somehow ground breaking? You still can't send files over Bluetooth

>>107146844
If USA and China go to war, all the Chinese smartphones will either be banned, stop working or be actively used for spying and sabotage. Save yourself the hassle and buy from different company.

>>107147586
wrong

>>107147570
Apple died when Jony left desu

Need a phone that doesn't burn my hand over prolonged period of holding it? Anyone know anything good made in 2023 or onwards?

CEOs

>>107147863
just avoid things with snapdragon 888 and 8 gen 1

CEO

>>107147603
>you must plan your life around extremely unlikely events

Is still don't see any serious argument against Chinese phones. It's all paranoia and fear of China pulling ahead of everyone else

And unless SCAMSUNG and Apple feel threatened, they won't actually innovative and make good phones

>>107147603
If USA and China go to war, your phone will be the last of your concerns.

>>107147771
Holy this.

Q3 2025.
Apple is a revenue power house thanks to its global popularity as the number 1 selling smartphone company! Samsung and Oppo are doing good and Vivo did well too! the graph also shows the cost of oppo phones is going up per the average selling price and apple still has the highest average selling price and still holds the top spot. people pay more for apple willingly against other brands that cost way less.

>>107148189
Apple will fall off hard after liquid shart fiasco.

>>107148194
thats not true. The base iPhone 17 is still sold out globally.

>>107147366
Lenovo or Honor

>>107148189
Oppobros we're popping and wonnednning.

>>107146844
>4chuds
in this specific general it is literally 1 (one) guy on a very solitary crusade against chink phones
you can see him reposting the same stuff religiously over and over and over

>>107148265
thats not true. Other people are in here saying they bought iPhones also, just stop lying already.

Why does Tim Apple love India so much?

>>107148265
It's because he loves India and indiaPhones so much.

4chimps is now fiull of indians accusing each other or being indians

>>107148306
Apple and Google were made relevant again by India.

>2027
>Android is locked down and can only sideload with adb and a pc
>iOS lets you sideload and install ipa files without a pc and no jailbreak in 2025

:(

>>107148469
you are retarded right ?

and please tell the advertising department that people on /g/ are not retarded like them, come up with better terms please like for example how gemini works "faster" on ios than android because of the fast A19 Pro SoC

what is the best phone to buy right now

>>107148545
It is being rolled out in select countries and soon to the whole world. You will only be able to sideload apps from IDENTIFIED DEVELOPERS without adb, you think the piracy apps you all seem to use won't get identity banned by Google?

>>107148833
iphone's or oppo's

>>107148833
There is no "best" period, only the best for you. For me, the iPhone Air was the best phone because I like the way it feels and the compromises are acceptable, some might need a chunkier battery and more camera lenses (particularly telephoto) and go for the 17 Pro or Pro Max, others want Android and will go for an S25 Ultra (I'm selling mine :) or Pixel 10 Pro XL if they want Google Android (or GrapheneOS...soon). Or maybe some gaming phone or chinkphone will be better value for hardware, but might come with even worse software than Samsung OneUI.

>>107148833
iPhone 17

>>107148833
If you're gay, Apple, if you're brown, Android

>>107148911
>gets identity banned by apple for wrongthinking

>>107149274
Yeah, same with Google. There is no winning.

>>107148469
It's going to be global soon on both sides. The digital lockdown is coming for everyone, better jailbreak/custom rom or accept the ass fucking

>>107146844
They don't control the baseband firmware on chink phones so the USA can't rape you OTA since their authentication gets rejected by chinkshit. Probably CIA glowniggers or people who fell for the glownigger meme.

>>107149298
You can just run android without google.
You can never run an iphone without tim apple spying on every byte of your data.

>>107149298
>install lineage
>install fdroid
>wins
Now what's the Lineage equivalent on iPhones?

>>107149792
Oh? Your device runs Lineage?

>>107149835
not him but mine does and judging by the amount of unofficial support on xdaforums, basically anyone probably can if they can read and follow instructions

>>107149941
Oh really? You think any device can run Lineage? You think every Android phone can be bootloader unlocked? Spoiler: most can't.

Also the trade offs of having a red Play Integrity status and unlocked bootloader make it not worth it for the vast majority of people, even if their device can be unlocked and has Lineage support in the first place.

>b-but I run insecure root tools to trick Google into letting me run waifu games and banking apps
These will stop working at some point, probably when you need it most. If your time is worthless, you can play cat and mouse with Google's security team I guess.

Just don't let your phone get swiped, no theft protection on an unlocked bootloader. Just gotta flash stock and lock and they can sell your phone to a more responsible owner.

>>107149992
Well I haven't audited every phone but I can see literally hundreds of models on xda in like a 10 second browse checking like 2 manufacturers alone, a good portion are unlocked unofficially by dedicated fans and then have lineage ported to them by people who feel like adjusting the kernels etc. But if your whole argument is it's not real lineage because you had to exploit the bootloader yourself then whatever, dishonest argument at best but sure?

"it will get stolen" Well it's still ungoogled and running sideloaded apps isnt it? I personally haven't ever had a phone stolen so I dont really give a shit but there's hardening work arounds for this as well like there is with anything usually. Of course most normies wont do shit but thats never been a compelling argument to the people doing shit

>>107149992
No iPhone can ever run a non-spyware OS.

>>107150104
Google is an advertising company. The 10s of people running LineageOS with gimped features are an anomaly. GrapheneOS is great, Lineage is meh, but a stock iPhone is more private than Google Android and you don't compromise on features.

>>107143373
>Finally switched to iphone 17 pro max from my 5 year old samsung
Welcome to the club.

>>107150128
Apple is a spyware company that sells lies about privacy.

>>107150284
Encrypt your iCloud backups then.

Responding to legal warrants is not spying.

>>107150299
>just encrypt things that apple controls the key to
kek

erm...

just bought motorolla razr 50 ultra for 600euro. I just miss foldable motorolla from old. Is it going to be any good as a phone?

Any current phones with a actual fingerprint reader? My pixel 7 pro blinds me at night.

>>107150312
Ok, 7zip and encrypt your totally-not-CSAM files with a private key before you upload the file to encrypted iCloud.

>>107150414
Look for ultrasonic, optical will do that. Ultrasonic is also more accurate and reliable.

>>107150430
Thanks! I'm hoping the pixel 10 shakes things up a bit and I'll upgrade to it.

>>107150430
>before you upload the file to encrypted iBotnet.
Or I could just buy a phone that doesn't upload all my data to Tim Apple's spyware network.

>>107150468
10 series has ultrasonic

>>107150514
Ok, enjoy your targeted advertising

Went from a Pixel 6a to a cheap Motorola and even after debloating I feel like something is missing. I don't even use my phone for gaming. Made it look as AOSP-like as possible and it just feels "tacky" compared to the Pixel's OS. I think I see why jeets love Pixel Experience so much.

>>107150520
Just bought the 10 pro xl. Thanks for your help.

Need new phone.
I'm either getting an F7 Ultra: I need the performance and the camera. I will be taking thousands of photos that need to look decent enough to convince someone to buy whatever I've photographed.
Or I spring for a flagship. How much better is LTPO OLED? How much better are the cameras? Is the Pixel 10 really that great, despite its quirks?
I'm in EU, will order from gomibo or amazon.