Thread 107142854

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut

>RAM
*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in flux
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 202∞ launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9800X3D: ~10% improvement in gaming over a 7800X3D (which is still in production)
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

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>>107136610

Man, my Gigabyte 5080 can't be propped up using the support bracket or else it will make an ear piercing rattling noise somehow even though the fans are NOT blocked by the bracket.
Is leaving the card without sag support ok?

>>107142908
Use some other support, like a stand.
The card needs anti-sag support if Gigabyte included one with the card.
Image source: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/103608074/#103613958

>>107142954
Fuck, it's always horrible news for me. Neither the case-provided bracket nor the Gigabyte bracket are fine so I gotta look for third party stands. I'm so done man.

>>107142854 (OP)
>Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
unhandy compared to what and for which socket?
what about the LGA1200 mounting kit?

Stupid question: If I take my old SSD out of my old PC and put it in my new PC (without uninstalling anything from the old SSD) as a secondary drive, as long as I load from my primary (new) drive I'll have no problems booting into Windows so I can format the old drive directly from my new PC right? Like I don't have to "prep" the drive first?

Is rm750x good enough for 9800x3d + 9070xt?
Rm850x isn't available for me and rm1000x costs twice as much.

>>107142972
MSI 5080 Expert OC

>>107143021
The mounting sucks for AM5, and the LGA1200 kit is using a similar mounting mechanism.
https://support.arctic.de/en/liquid-freezer-iii-pro-360
https://www.arctic.de/us/1200-115X-Mounting-Kit/MPSAS01117A

The LGA1700 contact frame isn't that great either from GN's pressure tests; the radiator and fans are carrying that AIO.

>>107143088
That would be pushing it, it would probably be fine but you should probably undervolt or power limit the cpu and gpu.

>>107143049
You should be good to do that.

>>107143101
>Expert Of Cock

>>107143101
How much was it? I probably need to buy a new gpu soon.

>>107143174
SCAN has them for £970, and there's a promotion where you get a £60 Steam giftcard if you redeem it on MSI's website.

I’m weighing up building a PC for the express purpose of replacing living room consoles - thinking I’ll just run Bazzite on it for a console-like experience.
The more I research, the more I’m beginning to think this might be a fools errand? It seems ridiculously expensive to build a device capable of 4K gaming at 60fps (60Hz 4K television), if I want to be able to play new releases for more than a year or so from now. At least, buying a GPU capable of this and fitting it in a living-room appropriate form factor. Am I right on this, or am I missing some crucial detail?

Hey, I'm looking to upgrade my Ryzen 5 3600, budget ~$200-250 (the equivalent in my europoor currency) though I don't mind going a tier up IF it makes economical sense. Also going to stay on AM4.

I think my choices are either 5800X+cooler (which one?) or 5800XT, but I can't get a clear consensus if the Wraith Prism is good enough for the CPU. The XT would be $50 extra.

Any help?

>>107143230
You're sitting so far away from the tv that 1080p looks fine

>>107143250
5700X, 5800X, 5800XT. It's exactly the same cpu, get whichever is cheapest.

>>107142908
>Is leaving the card without sag support ok?
no. the card WILL deform over time, it's heavy as fuck. lay the case flat if you have to.

>>107143230
>or am I missing some crucial detail?
Don't care about the size of the pc. Also play at 1080p like the other anon said.

>>107143259
>>107143298
Thanks based anons. I thought I must be missing something, otherwise there’d surely not be so many people banging on about their bazzite boxes.

>>107143323
Online there's a lot of people that brag about their multimedia pcs, and about how small or quiet they are. Personally I don't find the size to be an issue, especially if you're using it to replace several consoles. Just get some quieter fans for the inside.

>>107143290
>>107142954
Ok I somehow managed to get it propped up just fine with the Gigabyte bracket, no rattle, pic related. Phew.

>ram prices
wtf what happened?! i was going to upgrade to am5 at the end of the year and now i will probably not be doing that

>>107143469
you waited too long. everyone built back in july-august.

>>107143469
Look for used kits
You might find 2x16gb 6400cl32 kits for $150 if you're lucky

>>107143480
oh well there are no games to play that even require am5 anyway, am4 is still clearly good enough for the next 5 years at least.

>>107143469
The PS5/PS5 Pro getting a price hike on september should been the last warning, at least GPU's are still at msrp, Had to settle for 32GB 5600mhz 36 CL for $100, all 6000mhz or cl 30 sticks cost nearly $200 now and that was last week who knows how retarded the prices are now, the moment the price reached retarded levels i looked for my local retailers who thankfully were dumb enough to not realize the global price hike

>>107143808
>5600mhz 36 CL

>>107143808
Those console price hikes were mostly due to inflation & currency exchange rates.
The DRAM shortages haven't been priced in; it will get worse for consoles..

>>107143808
What ICs?
we had a guy here with 5200CL46 mystery meat that was Hynix A die (the 6000cl30 ram)

waitchads, we never stop waiting, we wait and then we will wait some more

Why are all people who refuse to use an aio in 2025 always stinky and evil?

>>107143982
i dont even own a am5 system so i cant test it

but its basically this one https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-5600MT-Desktop-Memory-KF556C36BBE-64/dp/B0F8NYDT8G?th=1

>>107144074
my pc is fine and I decided to jump from am4 to am5 for better 1% lows while ddr5 prices are the highest they've been in 5 years
needless to say Im not a chad

>>107144092
Can't be that one, poster said he got 32GB

>>107144079
don't aios have a lifespan of about 5 years before needing to be replaced? it just seems to be a useless extra expense compared to air cooling

>>107144079
Since Phantom Spirit/Peerless Assassin it's been over for AIOs

>>107144128
That's 32 GB single, amazon is just retarded and shows it like that because only the 64gb version is avaliable all others are out of stock

>>107144153
What do you think happens when you put two 32GB sticks in? It's 64GB.

>>107144138
not everyone wants a 1kg+ huge ass fan fucking with their clearance.

I see a
>ADATA XPG Lancer Blade 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
at around 180 euros, but all the equivalent gskill kits go for almost 400 euros. why the massive difference? I thought all the RAM kits were basically the same

>>107144201
Normies love brands.

>>107144201
Greed, nothing else. Just buy cheaper kit you aren't missing on anything.

>>107144201
all the prices are fake this month
just wait a bit

>>107144163
this is the amazon page, as you can see every version is the single module version of the kit, everything is not avaliable outside of the 64 GB single kit 5600 mhz version though which is why there is a 64 on the link

>>107144182
jufes is a faggot but the main pc tech tubers are worse grifter faggots. except maybe jaystwocents

>>107144249
techyescity is legit
jufes is a faggot

>>107144131
>oh no after 5 years I'll (maybe) have to spend $50-$100, this is terrible!!!
>useless extra expense
Okay evil bud, enjoy the sounds of fan rape and your processor throttling every time it has to actually do something
>>107144131
terrible

>>107144079
not everybody is overcooking their CPU, anon
>>107142854 (OP)
MOM, GET THE CAMERA

>>107144247
The link opened on the 32GB page for me. If you buy two 32GB sticks the total is 64GB not 32GB.

>>107144131
>what if you had to replace a dirt cheap component every 5 years AAAAIIIEEEEEE

what's the difference between FRAME 4000D and FRAME 4000D RS ?

>>107144351
that's between the FRAME and the non-FRAME, sure

I think the RS includes some fans, but they cost exactly the same

>>107144361
the non rs doesnt include fans?
why would you release a case without fans

>>107144259
>>107144324
>why buy something that lasts indefinitely instead of purchasing the same thing every few years, are you stupid

>>107144279
i honestly have no idea what you are talking about, someone asked which kit i bought so i just looked up the serial number on amazon, i bought one of those kits but i cant test it yet to see IC's as i dont own an am5 system, got my gpu and dram ready though.

RTX 5060 ti or 4070 for 3D work mainly and gaming on the side? Both new and around the same price. I feel like the low bandwidth on the 5060 ti may hinder its workload performance I dunno

>>107144424
4070 are being sold new somewhere?

>>107144424
Probably the 5060 TI, the speed will go to shit in any 3d work that fills the vram buffer, dont worry too much about the bandwidth the 5060 TI uses GDDR7 so even with that 128 bus it has 448 GB/s, the 4070 only has 504 GB/s so if you undervolt/oc it properly you'll match it

>>107144407
Looks like you accidentally bought only one stick

>>107144464
Not really, its a 32gb stick which is all i could afford.

>>107144400
>why spend like 30k+ on a car every 5/6 years when you can just walk everywhere
lol

All but one part arrived today.
Now I have to wait for that stupid AIO.
It's not even shipped or in stock really anywhere. Hope it arrives next week.
It sucks not having all the parts. If one doesn't fit or I don't like how it looks I can't return it anymore.

Wish me luck.

>>107144424
5060ti, if you don't think the vram will be an issue the 5070

>>107144472
If you buy a $500 car I can see it only lasting you five years. A $30,000 car will last you 30 years.

>>107144473
>5090
>5200mhz ram

>5090
>b850 mobo

>5090
>white psu you cant even see because the case hides it

>5090
>2tb pcie 4 ssd

>>107144467
Froggie, wtf are you doing?
If you use only one DDR memory module (single channel mode), you can lose up to 30-40% performance.
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/diy-builder/memory/which-ram-slots-should-i-use/

>>107144510
>complains about ram with the current market situation going on
are you living under rock or something?
I'm not going to pay $400 for fucking 6000 64gb ram when it was $200 3 months ago.

>>107144540
youd have better perf buying <200$ 32gb 6000mhz cl30 ram

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zdkbBq

Opinions? (i just have the case)

>>107144525
isn't it fine if i just put it on the 2nd slot, well i wasn't planning to finish the build until the post CES for the panther lake Ryzen 5 last refresh but this really sucks

>>107144473
Overpriced yet still shit ram
AMAZING

>>107144572
whats the use case? currently the parts make no sense

>>107144473
this is an odd choice of parts

>>107144574
The PC will work, but gaming performance will be pretty bad.
Single memory stick PC is stuff you see in a budget workstation PC.

>>107144510
there is nothing wrong with that mobo

>>107144580
editing videos and photos
programming
game whatever i want i dont worry about requirements in like 5 or 10 years

for the mobo a good quality and high end i just need something to add more storage at the future when needed

>>107144473
buy a cheap thermalright air cooler on amazon to set it up then return it when your AIO arrives
>white everyting
>dark gpu

>>107144510
B850 and SN850X are perfectly fine asshole anon.
PSU is whatever.
But I wouldn't buy that memory neither.

>>107144473
>B850
>5200MHz RAM
>gen 4 ssd
>all white parts
>black 5090
what was this lolicon thinking

>>107144607
aye thermalright
phantom spirit 120
peerless assasin 120
pretor 130
buy whichever is available or cheaper last two are the best ones

>>107144424
I would go with 4070.

>>107142854 (OP)
Too bad
I was thinking to build pc in 11.12 or 12.12
But ram price is too high
Should i wait till 2026

>>107144596
how so?
>>107144607
hmm...sounds like plan.
>dark gpu
yeah I know...
but it's a 5090 so a white one would've been like $400 more expensive.
so nah.

>>107144647
It'll always be something, just build soon before something more expensive is what gets inflated.

>>107144647
prices will probably go even higher next year

>>107144606
get more ram
buy a x870e e gaming not a pro art mobo
and an AIO

>>107144599
well at least it doesnt look that terrible here but yeah this really sucks, if prices keep being retarded maybe i'll sell it then. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr6p1tqeM3M

>>107144473
The ram is the only questionable part, at least it will look nice.
ASUS generally orders good PSUs and cables.
Board is probably similar to the Aorus Elite, which is fine.
ASUS TUF is a good card model.
If he doesn’t need Gen 5 NVMe drive speeds, the SN850X is still great.

>>107144658
>>107144661
I live in Brazil
The only way to get it cheap
Is through AliExpress
With 30 days of shipping

>>107144674
>skim through video
>4x8 doing better or equal to 2x16
wtf? I thought the 8gb sticks were already slower than the 16+ equivelent?

what is up with all of the Brazilians all the sudden? Is this amd schizo gaslighting or am I retarded and missing something or whats happening?

went back to my proper mid tower after trying a smaller form factor for a few months, i just couldn't get past the higher fan speeds and higher thermals.

>>107144641
The 4070 has only 12gb of vram anon, suggesting him that for 3d work is retarded

>>107144606
consider that amd is releasing refreshed cpus q1
you may want a watercooler because 16 core cpu running full workloads eat up 200+ watts, and water cooler can be quieter and allow higher perf thanks to less throttling
you should get 5070 ti
youre spending 2-3 more on the mobo for the nvme lanes right? then buying 2tb pcie 4 nvme makes 0 sense. you should be owning a 4tb pcie 5 nvme since you want to move files around
Id rec 65gb ddr5 but prices are insane so what can you do.
850w psu would be enough, you usually buy 1k for 5090 builds and you're unlikely to max out both cpu + gpu at same time.

I dont understand the case, consider fractal meshify 3 xl for high airflow.

>>107144700
Both 8 and 16gb sticks are dual rank
So you compare 2 channel 2 ranks in each vs 2 channel 1 rank in each

>>107144424
make sure the 5060 ti has 16gb of vram doroanon if its between the 8gb version vs the 4070 pick the 4070

>>107144756
sticks are single rank****

>>107144473
nice dakimakura, where can I get one of those ?

got a Thermalright Frozen Notte 360 coming in this Monday for my 9800X3D. How much of a difference do AIOs truly make?

>>107144424
5060 ti 16gb? if so then sure
basically 5060 ti 16gb > 4070>>>5060ti 8gb for productivity, do not buy the 8gb vram version of that card

>>107144778
idk probably around 5-7c better than a decent air cooler

are all these AI datacenters really going to pan out? tired of this shit

>>107144821
these companies building them make tens of billions regardless of what happens
they're just doing the less risky thing by investing their money into AI so they dont miss out on the next big thing

>>107144835
what if LLMs turn out to not be economically valuable for the next 10 years? this level of investment would require AGI by 2030 or earlier to make any sense

>>107144865
its just a bet, if it doesnt make money then the AI company stock price is only few trillion instead of 10

>>107144773
Got it from a regional reseller.
But usually Amiami should have them too.

>>107144881
you don't think top tech stock will drop significantly?

they'll just change the definition of what agi actually is if they cannot achieve it. big tech is not going to lose any money sadly.

>>107144431
found one selling in my shithole
>>107144441
>>107144482
>>107144641
>>107144759
>>107144790
thanks anons I think I'm going with the 5060ti, and yes it is 16gb

>>107144572
>open
>see 9950
>do a 360º and walk away

How do I convince someone that he doesn't need 64GB of ram to play CS2 and Valorant at 144 fps, especially in this economy?

>>107144979
In 2 years he will be hating you. Mind your own business.

>>107144979
Just ignore it, competitive fps players are unreasonable

>>107144979
yeah the economy is definitely gonna get better

>>107144979
You explain it to him the best you can and then allow him to make his own mistakes.
Can lead the horse to water....

>>107145042
This

Lads, the 12volt high power octo cable on my RTX6000 just fried. It was fully seated too. Card is working, but gonna RMA to be safe.

>but sars AMD is not housefire and is a great value, also android is a great value sar
Still sticking with Nvidia, sorry!

>>107144664
>>107144747
thanks

>>107145132
Just get one of those the next time
https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/wireview-pro-ii-gpu/s-tg-wv-p2-h19n

>>107144606
1. I wouldn't use an AMD CPU for photo and video editing.
2. The aircooler is overpriced AF
3. 64GB RAM
4. Possibility of saving money with SSD
5. The PSU is overkill
6. You could save money by going for a cheaper display like https://pcpartpicker.com/product/KfV2FT/lg-ultragear-32gr93u-b-320-3840-x-2160-144-hz-monitor-32gr93u-b

im really surprised we never got stories about the 5090 FE liquid metal leaking

>>107144606
>>editing videos and photos
>programming
go buy a mac studio

>>107145332
it has pretty thorough barrier solution
gamers nexus video had some teardown of it

Bought a new chinese monitor (ktc h24t09p) but the high pitched whine that comes from it is unbearable. Can't tell if it's electronic or the fan, think it's the fan, and only occurs when it's above 60 hz. Any fix for this? Already plugged it into all manner of sockets as well, same thing. Hoping black friday has a nice sale for monitors at this point.

9070 XT prices are finally dropping after these corporate fucking fruits realized they can sell 10x more copies of the same goddamn thing if they just put a buy button with a reasonable price

>>107145456
>realizing they can sell 10x more copies of a thing
Would make sense if AMD had that kind of supply to sell, which they don’t. That’s not why the price is lower now.

>>107145456
they are dumping stock as it'll soon be abandoned like they always do

>>107145332
Nvidia generally builds things better with an expectation of a decent long life. Part of the reason Nvidia is strict with power and voltage limits, of course they will find a way to make the LM stay put.

Laptops in general are built like garbage
LM sounds good until you realize they are only on the hook for the laptop for a year or two max and thus they are built as such.
IDK how anyone in good faith spends any significant amount of money for a gayming laptop, especially Asus

trying to minmax a build is so annoying. Getting it down to $1500 with this fucking ram prices reeeeee fuck it I'm so tempted to just make it $2000 build but I'll know I'll regret it

Is it normal for PSUs to occasionally make click sounds (either single or double clicks, never more)? It only happens at very low load (<100W) and I already ordered and returned two supposedly above average units because of this (currently on the third). I think it might be because of my shitty outlet power, but can a electrical-autist fren explain why exactly?

>>107145528
mix maxing would be buying parts piece by piece on sale

I've been on 1660S + R5 3600 for 5 years now. What should I upgrade to? I want to AI gen and game.

>>107145529
It's just a relay. It's a sign that it's a high end unit.

>>107145557
Ryzen 5700X if you want to keep the motherboard and RAM, am5 otherwise.
For the gpu you want an Nvidia, I say this as an AMD fanboy.

>>107145557
I think you should build a new computer
if you are going to upgrade your best choice would be just to start with the gpu, a 5060ti 16GB is what I'd do. It'll be bottlenecked but from that point to can see if you think dumping a 5700X3D or 5950X in it is worth it

>>107145529
it's a corsair psu right?

>>107145627
I did return a Corsair unit, but the one I'm currently left with is a Montech Titan Gold.

>>107145673
some people had clicking noises from the new HX series that is why I went with seasonic this time. they also were reported in older RM series. Were the first two corsair and now the same clicking with montech? or different kind of clicking

>>107144473
extremely cute build

>>107145557
Unless you can somehow get a Zen 3 X3D chip at a sane price, you should probably upgrade everything. The sane balanced option would be something like a 9600X and a 5070 (while also cutting unnecessary costs, so bottom of the barrel motherboard, cheap Thermalright CPU cooler, B-tier PSU and no more than 32 Gigs of memory).

>>107145785
I've already bought ASUS ROG Strix B850-A motherboard, 64GB RAM, 2TB SSD, Corsair RM1000x PSU

>>107144637
>big black overspecced GPU going into a white barely holding it together motherboard

>>107145754
>Corsair RM850e
>Gigabyte UD850GM
>Montech Titan Gold 850W
I never had two at once to do an A/B comparison but I'd say they all make the same kind of sound and under similar conditions.

>>107144967
>9950
it's a 9950x3d

>>107145850
try a different cables/outlet/board in another part of the house if you can. try a good sine wave UPS to rule out unstable power.

>>107145903
I'm not sure what it's like where you're from, but here power comes in from a single line so if it's shit in one room, it's shit everywhere. I know my voltage is a bit higher than spec and a voltage regulator would probably fix the issue, but those are big and noisy themselves and constantly waste power.

>>107145132
You should RMA just so they get very clear signal.

>27GS75Q
Is it a good monitor?

>>107146013
depends, its an ips that has nothing special going for it
theres the monitors unboxed channel that may offer recs for budget tiers

>>107145901
i didnt even get to read that far
saw the meme number and left

>>107145760
thanks

Confession: I still use userbenchmark

is using a 8 year old PSU a good idea?

>>107146390
if it's a quality unit it's fine

>>107146390
might be an issue might not
I wouldn't trust it with any 12vhpwr shit

these are my specs what can and should upgrade. i have no experience in pc building i bought this pre built on facebook. but im sure that i can manage upgrading it.

motherboard: ASRock h370 pro4
cpu: i7 8700
gpu: rtx 2060 super
power supply: cooler Master RS-550W
16 ddr4 ram
case: Darkflash A290

>turn on pc
>this happens
Why is my desktop icon suddenly the size of an ant?

>>107146402
>>107146411
its a seasonic s12ii 520w

>>107146467
if you don't want to buy a new mainboard try to find a cheap 9900K
main problem is your GPU, you'll likely need to upgrade your PSU as well

>>107146472
why the fuck do you even need that? just use win+d

>>107146472
because windows 11 is garbage

>>107146467
just put a 5070 in it

>>107146531
Windows 11 won't let me put a lot of shortcuts on my taskbar, this was a workaround to hide the shortcuts in one that it would let me add to the taskbar. I'm finding out more retarded things about this OS every day but it's too late for me. I'm not going to learn linux at my age I don't have a choice. Make fun of me if you want, I still don't understand why it went microscopic.

>>107146549
Tasks and the taskbar in W11 are a pure crime. They removed many features and introduced crap you cannot even change like variable task length based on name.

>>107146549
>I'm not going to learn linux at my age I don't have a choice.
Are you 70 or something?

>>107146549
ah, I see
why didn't you went with 10 ltsc iot?

>>107145557
For just LLM's the AMD AI max 385 is fine, it's also not very special, but the recent ram price spike did not affect the framework PC.
Downsides:
-soldered ram
-if you get the 32gb $800 mainboard you still need to buy a NVME, case, PSU, and 120mm fan
-Nvidia is much better for image generation, even at the low end, including AI video as well.
-only 2 nvme slots (but the 4x pcie slot can be turned into an nvme slot)
-a 4x slot which can't fit a GPU without a special case + 4x to 16x adapter
-the APU is similar to a 4060, double the 1660S.
-it's perf per watt is very good, it belongs in a laptop/handheld like GPD win 5 ($2000).
-the 5070 is better than the 385 in every way including AI
>b-but the 5070 is only 12gb! that's nothing!
for RP I think there are plenty of models that would fit 12gb, and you could push it to 16gb with offloading and it would still run about the same speed as the 385 (the 5070 is 3x faster in token speed). But I will admit, it's a tradeoff. I could also suggest the 9060 XT 16gb or the 5060 TI 16gb, but you get what you paid for (slightly cheaper than the 5070/9070, slightly lower FPS, but more vram).
-AI is only a bit faster than running it on a CPU, the 5060 TI 16gb would run AI noticeably faster. People should get the 64gb or higher because of MoE models, BUT the MoE is only as good as the experts, I like big models (but you will never compete with free cloud models unless you drop $3000 for 48gb, which won't pay itself off unless you spend hundreds of hours on the AI every month, OpenRouter prices are so cheap for millions of tokens, the only way for the price to rack up is if you have a huge history, since the whole history is sent for every reply, but personally I think AI's become dumb after a few thousand tokens for RP, but I use dumb free cloud models).
https://frame.work/products/framework-desktop-mainboard-amd-ryzen-ai-max-300-series?v=FRAFMK0002

>>107146522
but upgrading the power supply would mean disassembling the whole pc and at that point getting a bigger case and a new motherboard and a new cpu would be the better option no?

>>107146573
because I was told it had issues and certain games and shit would have trouble running on it. I've been using 10 for over 10 years figured it was time to move on. Whatever, I'll figure it out eventually. I bet the next time I login it will go back to normal.
Shit's gay but what can you do. I'm not a 20 something nerd who enjoys spending all day figuring out how to make shit work. More power to those that do but that's not me anymore.

based or retarded?

>>107145557
If you have 32gb DDR4 of dram i would get a 5700x and a 5060 ti 16gb, nvidia is much better for AI and the extra vram means you'll be able to fit bigger models, also you'll be able to run more shit natively on windows

>>107146513
>20A 12V rail
I mean if it's 8 years old but the tech must be even older, 15 years ago cards demand fat 12V rails already.
Just don't plug a 200W+ card on it.

>>107146626
depends on what you're trying to accomplish

>>107146663
>Just don't plug a 200W+ card on it
would a 5060ti be too much? Its a 180W card.

where can i benchmark a build list

Are store and home break ins to steal RAM going to become a thing? I'm surprised the factories don't get robbed more often. A box of them must be worth tens of thousands now.

>>107146699
i ran a 3060 on a 450w psu for years with 0 problems

>>107146716
It all depends, Focus Gold 450W from Seasonic has a 37A 12V rail because it's newer.

why is everyone shilling nvidia here now ? I was planning on picking up a 9070xt, esp now that the price is closer to MSRP. what happened ?

>>107146757
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkPPejQXFNo
Well when you announce 3 year old GPUs will be abandoned then spend another week damage controlling it doesn't build a lot of trust in AMD

Also like 60% of pro Radeon gpu posts all came from nicotroon.

>>107146585
sure, if you got the money you might as well go for that
but you'd need new RAM as well, so might as well just buy a whole new PC
only parts you can re-use at that point would be case fans and maybe the cpu fan if you have a fitting adapter for the new socket

>>107146757
nvidia has better features

>>107146663
You should try to get a new one if you can afford it , are 600w - 650w psu's too expensive for you?

Regardless you could try but there is a good chance you'll run into unstable performance and shutdowns whenever the system tries to draw too much power/

>>107146757
AMD has always sucked. Literally no one buys them. But to be honest, most people buy NVIDIA therefor are more likely to recommend regardless of quality.

>>107146757
They have been asking for productivity / AI, personally i shilled the 9060 XT 8gb to all the brasillians that were looking to get shit like the 7600xt because it had 16gb or the b580 even though they were running ancient ryzen proccesors like a 2600x because for pci 3.0 or ancient cpus that card does better even with 8gb of vram

>>107146757
Statistically speaking most people use nvidia GPU's on steam, and there is still nothing that AMD offers that is unique.
Other than steam OS, you can't install steam OS on a PC with a nvidia GPU (you don't want steam OS unless you just want to plug your PC to your TV and control it with a controller, I think?), AMD still has issues with linux and treats linux gaming as a 2nd tier to windows just like nvidia (you should not expect linux to have Adrenalin or other fancy driver features, but not like linux can even run popular multiplayer games that have DRM/anticheat).
The 9070 XT does run faster than the 5070 TI in some games however, but on some games the 5070 TI runs fast.
>>107145557
This has a 80% chance of not working but I kind of want it just because of the novelty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ6ghjRBFGQ

>>107146699
The card alone won't pull more than the 240W limit but the CPU and GPU together might.
Worst that could happen is shutdown.

>>107146757
Few /pcbg/ visitors are indecisive wrt Radeon vs. GeForce GPU choice.
The cost difference usually forces a decision for most of these people.
I've read more "5070 or 5070 Ti" questions than 9070 XT vs. 5070 Ti.

>>107146757
ram shortage
super delay
RDNA2 on maintenance mode
GTA being delayed
5070 below msrp
5060 ti 16gb supposed to run into supply shortage based on a leaker
no redstone
I have not seen anyone shilling 5070 ti/9070/9070xt hardware and with a ram shortage i think people are mostly looking into the 5070/5060 ti and scarred from GPU prices getting as retarded as NAND and DRAM got in the past month, regardles i think with data center and HBM memory taking up the warfare i dont see how 12gb VRAM will not be enough for the next 4 years, new gen consoles are gonna be expensive as fuck if they really go ahead with the 24 GDDR6 unified memory system

>>107146914
>super delay
Oh no no no he doesn't know...

Honestly I don't game much and while I would like a 5070ti I just can't really justify it over a 5070 right now, I can get the 5070 for under $500 and the 5070ti wants like $800. But the 5070ti is the same gpu as the 5080, maybe it's worth it. I dunno

>>107146757
previous amd owners realized it was a scam to keep nvidia in 1st. might as well go with the winner if we're talking about best overall performance and longevity

https://www.noctua.at/en/products/nm-amb15
Are these snake oil? I'm upgrading from an i7-7820x to a 9800 X3D and need to request a new mount from Noctua anyway.

>>107146927
I also think its gonna get cancelled, 3gb modules will be way too valuable for the RTX Pro blackwell line up to sell them in GTX series, at best it'll be a paper launch which is why i think people are looking to upgrade, what does this mean though is that it may take until 2028 for production to match the new demand so everything from UDNA, to series 60 to new gen consoles is being speculated to be pushed a year further down the line and if anything it releases in 2027 and the shortage has not been solved you'll face crypto tier level of prices so people are just wanting to play it safe and upgrade now

>>107146971
offset mounts? No. They come with the NH-D15 G2 anyway for both intel and AMD.

Some Coolers can have a big difference between performance with an offset between amd and intel. That frozn a720 in the OP pic is an example it's way better on intel CPUs than AMD ones

>>107146998
>Gtx series
RTX geforce series*

Things are not too expensive, you are just too poor

case in point, I need more money to consoom, If I had more cash flow I would just buy all this garbage and have 0 fomo

Now I have to act like my money will run out like a poor retard

tired of acting like this

>>107147060
thruth nvke

>>107146626
baker anon, please put this pic in the next OP
>>107146883
>Radeon vs. GeForce
the absolute state of video cards in 2025

>>107147060
you are fucking retarded. anything is expensive if it doubles it's price in less than a month

Are motherboards standardized? As in all the mounting holes are in the same place? I plan on buying different sizes 'for parts' motherboards so I can make a template for each mounting hole. I want to build on wood and I am not comfortable using a working motherboard as the first template. I just need to know where all the mounting holes are.

>>107147146
>Are motherboards standardized?
yes but there are multiple standards

>>107142854 (OP)
Update the 1440p monitor recommendation. Remove the LG & Gigabyte WOLED options.
Add the XG27AQWMG (27" 1440p, Tandem WOLED + TrueBlack Glossy finish, $599 MSRP)
https://rog.asus.com/monitors/27-to-31-5-inches/rog-strix-oled-xg27aqwmg/
https://www.techpowerup.com/342699/asus-rog-announces-availability-of-swift-oled-pg27aqwp-w-and-strix-oled-xg27aqwmg-monitors

GL finding one at that price though.

>>107146063
what's wrong with it?

>>107146626
toasty

>>107147167
The fuck does that mean? ATX motherboard can have different mounting holes than another ATX motherboard?
I know ATX, EATX, mATX are all different. I just want to know if ATX are all the same, or EATX are all the same.

>>107147204
ATX is ATX.

>>107147204
EATX is EATX

>>107147204
Yes they are. And the mounting points on smaller boards (mATX, mITX, mDTX, etc.) are in the same places as their larger equivalents.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/ATX_ITX_AT_Motherboard_Compatible_Dimensions.svg

>>107147204
E-ATX mobos can definitely not be the same as their width vary wildly while still being labeled the same
other form factors should be the same

>>107146757
no cuda no buy

>>107147146
All motherboard holes should be in a standard place.
All holes however may or may not be present.

>>107146792
That is concerning, but they instantly walked it back after backlash which is nice atleast.
>>107146802
not interesting in dlss
>>107146818
fair enough
>>107146829
fair, I want a gaming GPU. I dont care about locally hosting AI or whatever
>>107146845
wouldnt the price to performance be unique ? a $599 card vs a $749 card dont seem like fair comparison


So what happened to missing rops, 12vhpwr burning cards, 32bit physx support being dropped, AI/jeet drivers, etc? I thought the sentiment was that nvidia was putting out a rather shit product ( including their drivers, regardless how long they support them)
what changed ?

>2023 bought $224 CAD ddr5 64gb ram
>2025 same ram is now $423 CAD

Gen Z fucked in the ass on the daily.

New PC, Boot LED is on, all fans spinning but no video output on both GPU and motherboard

GPU: 9070xt, CPU: 7800x3d. My motherboard (MSI B650 Tomahawk) consistently shows the green boot LED but there's no video output on either the GPU or the motherboard. My keyboard works on both the front panel and the motherboard. The GPU fans aren't spinning but I read that that's normal on this GPU since it's not getting hot.


I tried straight HDMI on all ports (incl. on the motherboard) on 2 different monitors & my TV (with power cycling, waiting, etc.) as well as HDMI to DVI and Display Port to HDMI adapters. I don't have any monitors with display ports since they're all quite old. Could this be the issue?


I found a few other threads about this but nothing helped. It's starting to feel hopeless. I'd be grateful for any help.

>>107147287
let it train

>9800x3d at -20 pbo
>5090 at 900mV
yes or no?

>>107147287
this >>107147292 but also it could need a BIOS update. The 7800X3D came out a year after B650.

>>107147175
Yeah, TB500 also. This thing is fucking sick. But it's a shame I don't think we're getting this package in 4K resolution for another year :(

>>107147003
I have a NH-D15 Chromax Black, sorry should've mentioned before.
https://www.newegg.com/noctua-nh-d15-chromax-black/p/13C-0005-00324
Actually it appears as though I don't need to request a new mounting kit for AM5. My mistake

>>107147283
The media would say getting fucked in the ass daily is actually a good thing.

>>107147071
True

>>107147138
And if you had more money you would could just still buy stuff
in fact, you would have already bought everything since the current gen hardware drops dropped real long ago
so you would have saved money also

did anything except ram go up idk

>>107147248
EATX is a catchall term for for wider than ATX
The problem is that there is no standard in-between ATX and SSI-EEB
Some SSI-EEB boards get lumped in as EATX (fuck you supermicro)

>>107147281
>but they instantly walked it back after backlash which is nice atleast.
They are sitll on the maintenance branch with polaris and vega gpus, watch the video

who needs airflow anyway

how do you pick a motherboard? it's AMD ATX, I'm wondering what the major difference is between the 850s

I see, for example
>MSI MAG Tomahawk 269,90 €
>MSI Gaming Plus Wifi 209,90 €
>MSI Gaming Plus Wifi PZ 249,90 €
>ASUS TUF B850-E 219,90 €

>>107147392
Looks like normal temps to me. Fans might have to work harder but it still works.

>>107147419
I pick the cheapest one with a 7 segment display
that is usually the MSI tomahawk

>>107147419
>how do you pick a motherboard?
Ask yourself what you need.
Do you need more than 1 PCIe slot?
Do you need more than 2 RAM channels?
Do you need WiFi?
Just having those features can increase the price a lot. Removing them makes MB a lot cheaper.

>>107146389
anyone who hates shills and reddit cannot be all bad.

>>107146467
seems like a reasonably well balanced build where you can upgrade pretty much everything, upgrading the gpu is the low hanging fruit, but you might need a bulkier PSU for the more high end GPU's, upping the ram to 32GB can also be a decent upgrade depending on what you're doing, there's also some room to upgrade the CPU. Then again if you want to upgrade everything it's better to just start afresh on AM5.

>>107147307
That thing sucks ass compared to a G5/S95F if you are actually glazing the brightness of TB500, just below 600 Nits 10% window peaks, vs a TV at 2100-2400 nits peak
TVs mog the shit out of monitors and will continue to do so, they are like a decade in advance or some shit in terms of brightness
It's a bit closer to the LG C4/C5 42" now though seeing as they are like 800 nits 10% window

monitors are only good if you need the refresh, if you don't atleast get a 27" 4k qdoled, substantially better picture compared to 1440p

hey anons, anybody have recs for 32" (at least 1440p) monitors? I have a 5070ti and need to upgrade from my shitty 24" 70hz shitbox

approx budget 600usd, I would be willing to try OLED

>>107147422
Not him but he would need buy x870 tomahawk for that.

>>107147473
It's not a great rule but I refuse to buy a board without one and will only buy the cheapest one with it I can find. I don't care about chipset. I only care about an easy to read code that tells me exactly what state the board is in. I can't deal with those error lights.

>>107147433
definitely don't need wifi, and 2 RAM channels should be good, not sure about PCIe. I'm building a 9800X3D w/ 9700XT for gaymen and I don't want to underspend on the mobo since I'd like it to last a long time

>>107147333
i would not buy a lexus for twice it's normal price even if i had twice the disposable income.

>>107147530
Sure Anon, but what used to be basic feature is now reserved for high end boards.
Artificial product segmentation.

>>107147545
yeah but you have other alternatives and other cars to buy to serve the same purpose
hardware is linear and only so many manufacturers

>>107147450
LG C4 42" all sold out now? probably out of stock was like 699 for americans, best choice if you want hdr and actually better picture quality
or even a b4 48" for 599

no 1440p 32" so you are stuck with 4k, whatever qdoled which will probably be cheaper panel you can get

>>107147555
That explains why they cost so much now compared to the past. They clearly know others like me will spend more just to get that display. So long as the board has that and ethernet I don't care about the other features. No doubt there is a lot of extra shit I didn't ask for nor require.

>>107147579
I've already seen C5s cutting their price, Black Friday approaches

>monster cable surge protector in fact does not protect from power surges and my PSU is fried
nice

>>107144257
>techyescity
my man Tech Yes CIty is based. Always tells the truth when it comes to PC hardware.

>>107147602
>my PSU is fried
are you sure thats all thats fried? shoulda had a UPS and a proper surge protector in front that

>>107147596
I doubt it will be as cheap but maybe, the only difference is pretty much you can enable peak brightness in game mode now and get a bit more brightness
if you already are at 32" I mean 42" is not even that large really

Is my 12700K enough for an RTX 5080?
I'm still on DDR4 and wanted to know if a CPU + Mobo + RAM upgrade makes sense if I'm gonna go for the 5080.

>>107147541
Motherboards lasts a long time. They don't magically shit themselves. You can have a high end board costing $1000s of dollars from a reputable company die in 5 days because of a manufacturing defect or it can last 20+ years.
I have motherboards 30+ years ago that still work. They're robust and only break if a) bad manufacturing, b) if you abuse it.

>>107147692
Do you already have the 5080? Play some of your games on high settings and see if you're still CPU bottlenecked. That should give you your answer if it's worth upgrading.

Just bought 32 GB 6000 cl36 ram for $181 seems like the last set anywhere that's under 200 still
Did I fuck up

Oh wait
Uh never mind I guess I didn't buy it

>>107147692
That's basically a new PC build at that point. Why not wait a little longer, skip a few fast food trips, and commit to a full build a month or so from now?

>>107147692
You'll be fine, get the 5080 now that is near msrp dont wait

>>107147714
>Do you already have the 5080?
no I'm still choosing one since they're all a scam but some are less of a scam compared to others
>high settings
they're a meme most of the time. I'd rather have more stable FPS, which is why I initially asked about the CPU upgrade. The last CPU upgrade I did was 3700X -> 12700K and it was a massive difference in 1% lows and overall performance. I'm not sure a 7800x3d or 9800x3d will net me the same uplift at 1440p.

>>107147440
I do not need 2000 nits in front of my face.

>>107147760
>Why not wait a little longer
because the end of november will see prices raised with bullshit "deals" on hardware like every black friday

>>107147755
kek

>>107147801
fair true true
I was speaking from more of a grown adult financial perspective than the component game perspective.

What's the best 64GB RAM kit to get for an AM5 CPU?
Do B-die, CL-timings and frequency matter as much as they did during the AM4 days?

>>107147450
thedisplayguy had some deals here https://youtu.be/gxOPAoNKnyg
specifically the aoc 32" 165hz qdoled for 550 refurb
although I can't recommend aoc's firmware
but beggars can't be choosers

>>107147853
I'm a ripjaws loyalist so no arguments here

I'd pay extra to get rid of RGB

>>107147755
He thoughted he boughted

>>107147853
>x3d
just buy the cheapest slop now and throw it on and call it a day does not even matter that much
>non x3d
you are cucked, good luck finding good priced 6000c30 dogshit

>>107147853
6000c30 is all you need
avoids getting shit micron bins

>>107147777
Then no, don't bother upgrading anything. If you have stable FPS and you're happy with it then don't just upgrade for the sake of upgrading.
Upgrade for a reason.

Steam survey and still 0 9070s and 0 9060s

did amd sell any of these cards at all

>>107147925
The rebrand to play a little closer to nvidia's lineup seemed a little slimy. I think it turned people off. Also, I think people tried their cards because the 4000RTX cards pricing and supply chain fiascos and they all got burned. I know I did.

I had an absolutely terrible experience with my 6800XT despite its insane value. Like I unironically downgraded to a 3060 because I was so tired of dealing with it. I'll never touch an AMD card again. They make great CPUs though.

>>107146792
>nicotroon
is he finally perma'd?

>>107144572
swap that shitty NH-D15 with a Lian Li GA II Lite, the 9950X3D can't be run on air without throttling. Also that motherboard is overpriced as fuck, the Gigabyte Aorus X870E Pro / Elite are all you need unless you require a specific feature ie 10GBit lan etc

Please rollback 2 months so i Can buy rams :(

do you still buy internal hard drives for your desktops?

>>107148111
?
Like a normal drive? I don't understand. Do you mean specifically HDD over SSD?

How much for one ram?

>>107148122
like 2TB SSD + 8TB HDD for example

>>107148137
About tree fiddy.

>>107147450
I would go straight to 4K 240 Hz OLED. 32" is too large for 1440p, unless it sits far away from you. I have the MSI MPG321UX but there are likely better and or cheaper monitors on the market now. Pretty sure LG has released a 4th gen WOLED, and Samsung probably has a newer QD OLED. Whether they're worth the extra price, I don't know, but that's where you should start your research. If possible, look for user experience with the firmware of new monitors, e.g., how often pixel refresh is required.

>>107148139
I have in the past but don't currently. Ever since I picked up my DVD/BluRay habit I stopped downloading shit all the time so I don't need a big drive right now.

>>107148111
Only if you need the space for your archives. A 2 TB SSD is standard: you might not need more space. Personally I have around 20 TB HDD storage in RAID 5 for fault tolerance

>>107148087
Rollback a year so I can buy hdd

>>107147692
5080 probably isn't worth it over the 5070 Ti, especially if you're on an old CPU.

I bought gpu and now it's sitting next to me for few days because i am too afraid to swap it with the old one.

>>107148205
what is there to be afraid of

>>107148153
There's a decent Asus option. Only downside is DSC and, of course, the price.

>>107148218
I don't even know man. I keep getting the feeling that i will fry it somehow, even though i am not changing psu cables or anything.

I mean...4800mhz isn't that low... Ddr4 used to be lower.

>in the middle of playing something
>GPU crashes out
>restart computer
>only one monitor comes on
>shit missing in Adrenalin so clearly Windows fucked with something
why the FUCK does Windows do this shit

>>107148251
yes yes there there you never needed that 6000MHz RAM to begin with.
>>107148332
Windows is trash. Adrenalin is trash. Graphics cards are trash. Everything is trash. My advice? Leave this hobby forever. We all should.

Do SSD's improve gaming performance? Currently using an 5400 RPM SATA HDD

>>107148353
Loading times are way faster.

so basically to play anything modern you need to use upscaling

there's no other way even at 1440p

Is there still only one 32 inch 4k IPS monitor that does 144hz +? This thing is going on 4 years old now.

>>107148353
Windows boots under 20 seconds instead of 2 minutes. Same for game loading.

>>107148375
M32UP does 160Hz

>>107148383
Interesting, thanks for the suggestion.

>>107148381
I have an SSD and windows boots in 2 minutes for me..

>>107148353
Games won't even run correctly on an hdd at this point.
>>107148364
Even at 1080p dlss looks better than native usually

I'm gonna sell a custom PC to, say, Facebook Marketplace, but what are the anti-tamper measures I should do to prevent scammers from swapping parts, etc.?

>photos of the internals
>serial numbers of the parts
>zip ties to prevent cables and PSU from getting swapped

What else?

>>107148489
what do you mean, there is zero protection on facebook marketplace, there are no refunds, the closest thing is litigation or schizos who will find where you live.

>>107148489
Just say no refunds, all sales are final.

What's your excuse for not having the best GPU?

>>107148489
Say no refunds and when making a sale bring a heavy duty UPS so you can plug in the PC and monitor to boot it in front of them.

>>107148364
Correct. The only downside is that sometimes the upscaling implementation sucks
>your preferred upscaler isn't implemented (applies mostly to FSR4 and XeSS)
>the implementation sucks (ghosting, etc.)

>>107148353
SSD is basic QoL at this point.

>>107148505
>>107148508
>>107148549
I'm starting a sideline so maybe offering them a 7 day warranty is, well, warranted and will do good for my business?

>>107148375
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#F=787400000,812800000&r=384002160&P=2&D=144000,600000&sort=price&page=1&X=6475,99923

>>107148519
I have a fire pit outside to roast marshmallows if I want to do that

>>107148519
I don't like the number 5, it's a harsh and uninviting number.

>>107148579
Slim pickin's but at least there is something. I suppose everyone is going in on the OLED craze instead. I have permanent static things on my end so it's not an option for me.

>>107148607
Yeah I prefer 9 like Cirno

>>107148251
ddr4 wasnt running at cl40-39-39...

>>107148364
that or get a 5090 to play at 80fps 1440p native

>>107147641
Text start to look pretty bad once you go over 32" tho.

What cases do you guys like? I'm having a hard time picking between the Antec Flux Pro (Kinda big), Lian Li 217 (Kinda boring) and the Fractal Design North (Unsure if I like the aesthetics).

I think the Flux Pro is winning me over so far.

>>107148519
It seems to be taking a while to ship.

>>107148610
If they're literally permanent then you don't actually have a problem

>>107148519
I don't want a video card that draws over 400W of power, even 300W can get toasty.

>>107148519
I keep spending my money on other things like night vision.

>>107148744
>>107148744
>>107148744
new thread

>>107148638
That's why I'm waiting for the next generation, 69 is the perfect number.

>>107148353
Bro living under a rock the last 15 years.

>>107148656
you are still at the same ppi as 1440p 32"
everything better

>>107147560
>yeah but
shut the fuck up

>>107149095
ya but it's awful for reading and coding

>cat picture, ok

How about this?
6000mhz c30?
Good?

I dont know exactly what the for amd means. I am getting amd cpu though, so I guess that's a good thing?
It seems cheaper than than the regular one without amd expo so I have to wonder why

>>107149155
If it's cheap, it's probably not a CL30 kit.

>>107148669
I've been trying to pick a case for a month now

>>107149125
your concession has been accepted

>>107149147
>ya but it's awful for reading and coding
sez who?

>>107149319
https://www.ebay.com/itm/136720955834
was this
I bought it
I hope the seller didn't lie

>>107149332
i sez

I was gonna use a 4k 43" Sony as a monitor but switched back to my 32" BenQ, the PPI on the larger screen was terrible for text.

using pcpartpicker and my build is always super expensive and then fuckers make a build for less than $1500 with the gpu I want. I'm just trying to build a 5070 machine with good parts

>>107149681
You'll have to make compromises somewhere. Also you need to be aggressive looking for deals. pcpartpicker doesn't update shit in real time. Check every possible place you can buy stuff, some places like best buy will price match almost anywhere. I got my cpu price matched from microcenter. Watch for black friday deals to start in a week or two. You'll have a better chance at getting cheaper parts then.

>>107147925
I finally got the steam hardware survey for the first time on my 9070xt that I’ve had since launch day. I’ve had it twice on my nvidia systems in that same time frame interestingly enough.

>>107149402
and you ran all correct settings rgb 4:4:4?

>>107150332
ya I tried many things, it was simply that the pixels are stretched out too far on the larger screen.