Thread 107150125

IT Field Tech here. Is there any purpose in 2025+1 to learn how to code and if so which language would be recommended?

>>107150125 (OP)
No. Coding is dead

Anything but Rust or Python or Ruby should be good

>>107150125 (OP)
given the formulation of your question youre not a passionate in the slightest and are not a creative person- you want a 9 to 5 and get paid 150k for doing fuck all
that era is dead. turns out jeets also can sit around doing fuck all for 8 hours a day, but for a fraction of the cost

Learning to code is still fun, but don't do it thinking you'll get a job at the end, because you won't and it doesn't matter if you're the best man for the job.

>>107150125 (OP)
No. Just focus on doing your own job well.

Let me tell you how this will go. You'll learn some Mickey Mouse "Hello, World" shit, crib some regex from chatgpt, and you'll find some way to help a user do something quicker or work around some deficiency in their existing workflow. You'll be excited about being clever and the user will absolutely fan your balls for it because this means they can spend half of their day on TikTok now. But you'll be cowboying it because hey, you're not even sure if it's going to work, you're not a developer, you're just testing a theory/proving it can be done to test some skills you learned in the real world.

You will not be rewarded for this.
In fact you will be penalized, severely.

You now own this business process and script/application. You and only you. When Security finds it and if they're in a good mood they'll only fuck your mouth a little. You'll get it approved with a handful of changes you had to *really* dig in to learn how to do.

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>>107150368
Then comes next month - Windows will do an update and reset all the folder permissions, flag it as an unknown program, etc. You'll get a call from the user.
>Work stoppage, please fix

The next field tech will drop a new workstation off at the office and they didn't copy anything from the old station. If they didn't save it in OneDrive, it didn't make the jump. Sorry!

Since you told the user not to call you directly, you get a call from the Tier 1 support telling you some user called and asked for you by name to help them with DoodooZilla, but they don't have that on their list of supported applications to route the ticket to the right team. Guess this one's on you.
>Work stoppage, by the way.
Linda has conveniently forgotten how to do things the old way, mainly because it cuts in on her brainrot sesh.

You document it for the other field techs, but they're too busy with their own lazy half-assed workstation deployments, gooning, or trying to learn coding so your email goes right to Trash and they'll just call you every time for a refresher.
>Work stoppage, please fix.

The lesson here is no good deed goes unpunished. Don't help users any more than you're required. Do your job well, but don't try to do Development's or the Process Analysts' either.

I used to listen to that anime's ED to sleep

>>107150375
The OP makes me feel schizophrenic, but it's a banger

>>107150125 (OP)
Because ai is quite simple, if you learn to code it has to be niche cases and barely known things as well.
Any i dustry standard language works. C#, C++, Python. Rust is growing in the US, not a good idea outside of it though. Then also old languages that used to be used. Delphi, Cobol.
Roll a die and learn for 5 years at least. Companies want seniors. Also make a personal website and write what you do on there.

>>107150368
>>107150374
You made me laugh because I am in the process of writing an application at work that will accomplish something our other shitty microsoft tools and even a Palantir platform cannot do, and I am also not a developer but a system administrator and a fairly low tier one.

IT will not do this for us, ever, because they are cut down to the bone and are booked up until 2028 for code, if I don't do this the project will fail to meet the deadline. So I basically have to do this but its a one-off thing we need for 2 months, only like 3 people will use it and then we can forget about it. A director has already told Cybersecurity to shut the fuck up and deal with it and give me access to company github so I can do this by the book. I know I SHOULDN'T be doing this and that this will turn against me but I kinda do it anyway for the ego boost

>>107150374
>The lesson here is no good deed goes unpunished. Don't help users any more than you're required.
I felt this on my skin. Before becoming a system admin myself, I always wondered why they were so angry to everyone all the time, but now I understand.
If you act too available and willing to help, people will take advantage of it all the time, even for things that are outside your scope.
If you don't ignore or tell people to fuck off, you won't have time to complete any of the work in your own schedule.
Being nice in this field is only going to make you angry, people will pile workloads on your shoulders while they laze around all day.

The best programming language is the one someone is willing to pay you to program in; In a lot of enterprises it's old unloved software using VB.Net or even old stuff like Windows batch files or Linux scripts. A common skill required is VBA macros in Excel.

In lot of enterprises you will look like a Guru if you can even write Powershell scripts.

>>107151331
>its a one-off thing we need for 2 months, only like 3 people will use it and then we can forget about it
I'll pray for you. I've made all kinds of things that just become part of the ecosystem as management changes, projects get extended indefinitely or re-scoped, and so on.
>but I kinda do it anyway for the ego boost
That's why I do it too, but it doesn't pay the bills. Back 40 years ago doing shit like this would mean you'd get promoted (or at least a raise), today it might be a small measure of job security, at best. Companies find a horse that'll pull a plow and that's his job til he's dead. They're not going to let him be a racehorse. They won't ever hire a younger, similarly clever White man to take your place, they know by now Indians are a no-go for anything critical, and you seem like the uppity type that might start asking why we do certain things that lose the company money or automate a whole department out of a job that Mr Boomer oversees, and he get paid a per-widget bonus to enslave all of those spreadsheet girls.

Can't have that. Too disruptive.

>>107151650
At some point you have to come to the conclusion that it isn't your company, and it should be allowed to fail in some ways. Management made these decisions, and they should suffer the consequences for it. It's not your job to be Captain Save-a-ho because they fucked up and fired the wrong person, outsourced something to Pajeetistan, etc. Play dumb sometimes for your own sanity. It's not like you don't have a neverending list of shit to do already.

>>107150125 (OP)
don't listen to retards like >>107150134
nowadays it is the best time to learn to code.
https://youtu.be/9xzqqZMXjjg

>>107150368
>>107150374
OP here.

I needed to hear this. What do you suggest doing instead? I don't wanna be a field tech forever

>>107153340
t.

Programming is just another way of using your computer. If your computer usage needs are currently being met adequately then there's no reason to learn programming. If you want to be able to do more with your computer then learn it.

>>107153535
Maybe go for certs in cloudshit (Azure, AWS) and/or networking, or slide into Directory Services. If you've been paying attention at your FST gig, you have a good understanding of the map of the org, who's in what groups, what network or cloud resources they have access to, if there are any pain points where people span different roles, etc. That's assuming the company will let you transfer to a different department opening. You might have to look elsewhere, but then you're starting from scratch. Either way - don't volunteer for a second job at your current company. Clean break. All your FST duties get left behind.

Most transferrable skills right now? Try and get into Procurement - be the guy that specs out the hardware, buys and catalogues it, and/or preps them for deployment. Or management of some FST division, but then you're managing people and that's its own brand of misery.