Thread 107150462

Better Than /utwg/ Edition

>What should I build?
You likely already have a dozen ideas already. You take these ideas and you work on finding out who is most likely to pay for it. The more granular your ideal customer profile is, the better. Once you have your ideal customer profile, you find people that match that description. Be sure you actually TALK TO PEOPLE before you waste months building shit nobody wants.

>How do I get customers?
Post in online communities that are relevant to what you're selling. If they're interested, they'll tell you. Take their feedback into account, make it a collaborative process between you and the people you're building for. Get the word out for what a good guy you are and how great your product is.

That's only one way to do this of course.

>What tech should I use?
Depends on what you're building. If you're building CRUD monkey shit and you're in the process of validating your idea (i.e. see if people will pay for it), just go with open-source software that can easily be deployed on a single server. The ideal stack is being able to move from server provider to server provider without having to rip up the floorboards in your own tech. Don't fall for the "le scalability" meme and get locked into using a bunch of proprietary AWS shit. You can always optimize for scalability later on down the track, if you're just starting out then YAGI.

>Can I shill my startup here?
If you've actually launched something it's always inspiring to see. Post away you handsome guy.

>Are you a big guy?
For you.

Move to Madagascar.

>>107150462 (OP)
>YAGI
I of course meant YAGNI (You Ain't Gonna Need It). You're likely cookin' in the triple digits so you probably worked that out already.

every time i have tried to freelance it has ended so poorly it wasn't even interesting. normies just don't want to pay you to fix things

>>107150494
How were you advertising your services? If that's oki to ask :o

>>107150507
>If that's oki to ask :o
Okizeme is a human right.

I approached local businesses directly, mostly bars and takeout food places. And for "private clients", I would just be a weasel and work it into conversation.

>>107150512
Hey that's p cool. What kind of services were you offering?

>>107150462 (OP)
>identify a niche in the market
>i will likely need months or a year to build parity with competition
>only then can I innovate and target the niche customer base
Saas is dead

>>107150530
The trick is not to directly compete with established players out of the gate. Chances are those companies are not serving a profitable niche as well as you can. If you can figure out what that is and where those people are, that's where you'd start.

>>107150529
A/V and accounting. Basically, "Hey, you know your cash register has an ethernet port and an API, right? Are you aware that your security cameras can just be USB webcams to an on-prem server? I see your client wifi is going through nine million subsidiaries, eight million you are obviously paying for; it could just not do that with one change to your router config. Your version of 'the game' right now is twelve seconds behind what's on my phone even after your ten million subsidiaries and I can get you that stream ez-pz and it won't even be piracy. Also your front door keypad is mushy and I have spares for that." kinda stuff.

But if normies don't want to pay me like 100$ to make basic changes that will save them multiple subscriptions, maybe I should just finally build some sequential coilguns, fail to sell them to any local defense contractors, and simply use them to knock over the same businesses that said it would cost too much to hire me to make their security cameras work.

Actually, even better. There's no footage of it worth anything. The court can't prove it wasn't a much cooler railgun.

>>107150595
Build the railgun Anon, /sugma/ needs a weapon to surpass Metal Gear.

begging my company in the morning to let me in on the internal Innovation Program to build an electromagnetic vehicle-mounted grenade launcher

>>107150619
Innovating like Steve Jobs, who kept launching Foxconn's factory workers to their death so often he had to install a safety net outside to catch 'em. Innovation in launching! Wow!

What does sugma mean??

Actually, on an only slightly less edgy note, I like to sew and play pretend-tailor; something I've noticed is that there are not good solutions for people doing small boat operations who need to carry a lot of electronic equipment.

A typical military life-vest is the auto-inflating type, and it blocks a lot of the usual pockets that are most versatile on modern tacvests. It's called a "chest rig" for a reason, but on a boat, your chest is occupied by tubes that will auto-inflate if you fall down.

also, even if you can get your hands on a military issue tacvest, they aren't waterproof, every pocket is very open, it's just not good for a marine environment. All your shit gets wet. It's fine for ammo and grenades that don't care about a little water, not so great for the long series of PDAs and paper maps boat people get laden down with.

In my own doings in the navy, I found that something like a duty belt (like cops have) does fine, and can be just clicked off if you're drowning. Before I very recently got a real job, I did think that I should do some "R&D" into that and try to figure out proper load-bearing equipment for people in small boats.

I'm sure it already exists, but I've never heard of anyone having anything issued that's proper for it, and the few psychos like me that do care tend to rig their own crap.

Could be useful to finally do a bit of tailoring to figure out what would even approach optimal for commsies in boats. Maybe even develop some "ruggedized computers" that aren't just a thinkpad with rubber grommets on it still meant to be used with two hands. Even the military stuff is all very infantry-driven; it's all well and good when you have a laptop that can take a .50 better than your plates do when you're in a humvee and have both hands free, but SOME of us need one to hold onto the boat and another to point at perishable contacts.

>>107150660
It's so sad that Bill Gates died of sugma.

>>107150676
I know nothing about what you just said. You should look into it.

Or maybe I'll just hit up a hobby shop and start that aerial surveillance company i wanted to.

>>107150735
Basically, look at a typical codman character model. Now imagine he is in a boat. A life vest would interfere with getting new mags and using his tactical computer and stuff, right?

But on top of that, his tactical computer is "waterproof", but really it just means rain-proof. When you're on a little boat, there's a lot more water around that that! And it's cold, too! You need to wear gloves, and touchscreens don't like gloves. You could use a stylus, but the boat is going REALLY FAST and is REALLY BUMPY! You should hold on! But now how do you use your computer with only one hand, when really you need one to hold it and also need a stylus instead of your fingers!?

It's one of those series of problems that I bet has been solved, but from direct experience, the equipment either isn't cheap enough or isn't prolific enough yet because I have had a lot of fucked up experiences trying to use some piece of shit MILITARY GRADE laptop or pda on a boat and it's fucking miserable because it's clearly designed to be hardened against the snow of afghanistan mountaintops instead of being usable at sea level in the carribean basin

business idea: CMS, but it's not Shit

going to work wearing 60kg of equipment to stress test my side-business prototypes (and getting arrested for violating various radio spectrum management laws)

>boss asks why he can't know where the boats are at at all times
>try to explain that AIS exists
developing low-profile personal AIS transmitters and getting arrested for violating various radio spectrum management laws

>have random shower thought
>what if we had force trackers that phone in to a unit above them on some frequency, and only the "commander" has a proper HF/satellite link

>immediately think "fuck thats a lot of frequencies to reserve, I am going to get arrested for violating various radio spectrum management laws"

>>107150512
>I approached local businesses directly, mostly bars and takeout food places. And for "private clients", I would just be a weasel and work it into conversation.
the make NO MONEY dude, the margins of those industries is razor thing. theyre concerned with the day to day of peeling potatoes, least entrepreneurial business people.

petitioning local military units to let me homebrew IFF transponders and then petitioning NATO to expand IFF usage to maritime units

>>107150832
I know that; one would think "I can save you a grand a month on your various subscriptions" would have been alluring, but no

petitioning local businesses to sponsor me to build electromagnetic launchers and petitioning local military units to simply pay me a one time fee to tell their IT admin where the TSN stream is instead of paying for cable

>>107150851
well dont fucking demoralize the thread then because you chose a weak target, zogbot

Posted this in the last /sugma/
https://versiondb.io/

I'm selling a juge dataset containing technology stacks detected all across the web. The dataset is over 4M domains with over 3K technologies detected. So if you're this Anon >>107150788 trying to sell a CMS that's not shit, you'd be able to find everybody who is using a shitty CMS and sell them a much better one.

Getcha sample over here: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0zsph3y6xnfgcibizjos1/sept_2025_jumbo_sample.zip?rlkey=ozmekjx1klshfp8r1y66xdtvx&e=1&st=izkt62t6&dl=0

I also had my first customer yesterday, feels good man :>

>>107150879
who fking pays for this lol
all i can think of is people that want to attack/social engineer popular npm libaries

>>107150871
well if the thread wants you can invest in me to make an FGC competitor; I've always thought that diesel-actuated guns should be A Thing. Such a thing would never cycle properly for automatic action, but it does solve a lot of usual problems related to ammunition procurement.

>>107150879
Not clicking that shit but I think we may have different ideas about what "CMS" is.

>>107150888
>well if the thread wants you can invest in me
no it doesnt, we dont care about your milsperg posts. you do thats cool, but you just blabbering bullshit isnt interesting.
launch something first, youre just an ideas guy.

>>107150886
>who fking pays for this lol
You'd be very surprised just how much money is in tech profilers.

>>107150888
>CMS
Like WordPress right? Btw, if you disable JavaScript wtf am i going to do lol

>>107150879
Jesse sugma

>>107150888
i think ur rite lol.

>>107150890
>launch something first
In real life, I am weak and lazy. But maybe I should approach my unit and finally do something with all the ancient poorly-accounted gear. I know I can, it's just a legal issue. I'd do it at my other work, but somehow I don't think I can compete with the actual engineers for funding when my most adventurous ideas are "Tacvest, but waterproof" and the crazy engineering I want to try is "IFF, but boat"

At the very least, the one about being in boats and not having ergonomic equipment; I can do that, we have stuff available, all I need is a some legal protection about it. I should finally approach my CO about it and ask for a Digikey account and a lawyer.

>>107150896
Combat Management System, the thing on warships and certain planes/helicopters that lets you know who is or is very likely to start shooting at you. The typical one is a Lockheed product and nailed the CMS name so now it's kinda like how every photocopier is a Xerox and every cum rag is a Kleenex.

>>107150908
Ah yeh, I deleted my post because it finally clicked that the pic in your post was related

>>107150914
business idea: disposable para-flare-like ground-facing RADAR that transmits on Link, also petitioning NATO to use Link for anyone other than faggot flyboys

an AR-15 rechambered for 12ga like how they make AKs in 12ga (Saiga)

>>107150879
btw by "CMS" i was referring to a "Content Management System" and not a "Combat Management System" x_x d'oh

Something I had an idea about even when I was a little kid: Self-levelling sights. At the time, sonar rangers were cheap, and now you can use laser ones. Sighting a rifle is an arduous process and is as expensive as a few magazines of ammo. There's laser light bore levels and such, but why has no one created a scope that can itself look at an IR light or take a sonar range or something based on something inserted into the bore? It wouldn't be the most accurate, but it would save you a whole ten to fifteen rounds and could be done indoors instead of reserving a whole range.

>>107150983
thread ruined
oh well pretty shit OP anyway

You should be able to solve these.
https://www.diana.nato.int/challenges.html

I'm getting the bug out whites only

>>107150987
no new consoomer software needs to exist. the HR karens have their SAP cancerware, everyone else has no new challenges.

I'll be honest with you; even in mil spergery, any tech issues I've faced definitely have some software or hardware that already exists that does exactly what I want, and the issue isn't cost, it's an Approved Software List.

But at least in my weird context, it's novel problems. I can't imagine any new office admin software needing to exist. I'm out here crying for hardware that works near water and to be able to have radios deconflict themselves automatically. To say nothing of "track synthesis" or having weapons work properly on the first shot.

>>107150987
Yeah I've got a thread where you'd fit right in
>>>/utwg/

>>107151022
didnt read
annoying thread spammer

>>107151027
gay
>>>/k/ zogbot

>>107151027
gay welfare baby

installing the weird windows driver that lets wireshark work with gpio so i can take a Toughbook into the bay and record the elecromagnetically complex envrionment (this is a purely academic exercise; the AIS standard is shockingly well documented, IMO has defined how to transmit and receive on it very well, every ship has an internet hookup and declares its position that way too, and I've already resolved to fox hunt the various boomers in the area I've picked up with my shitty memefeng handset)

>>107151022
>normies just don't want to pay you to fix things
its cause they saw you were a gross weird fag lol

>>107151036
>>107151039
gay? welfare? sounds like you need to go back to /utwg/.

>>107151043
Let's just kill the messenger

Something I'd really like to do

>Give me these toughbooks.
>I'll rip the memory and drives out, get my own, and just throw whatever OS works on it
>install a copy of OpenCPN, install an antenna, and now it's a mobile charting machine that is not very ergonomic for a boat,
>a mouser account, license to transmit, it could get even better than that

but im a fucking retarded nigger, and I'm not allowed to do these things by DND policy, but also I'm not allowed to have fun as matter of course in general

But for those of you who are civilians; look towards the military. There's a lot of easy problems to solve. It's hard to get a contract, but it's where all the stupid problems are that are good to solve for practice.

>>107151111
Quads denotes truth?

>>107151140
Everybody lies.

>>107151126
>>107151133
What the fuck?

>>107151126
>>107151133
HE SHIT!

begging my CO for 400$ to build a steam-launched catapult for a COTS fixed-wing drone (the launch armature was 200$)(the drone was stolen from the Army in an armed raid and we expended 200$ in ammo and gasoline)`

Business Idea: the Puma, but it can land on small vessels properly with an arresting hook or something instead of crash-landing into the ocean (where most of it breaks) and requiring pickup from a small boat

>>107150462 (OP)
How can I be sure the audience wants the product if I don't have the product on my hands? People wouldn't know what they want just by talking about it.

>>107151352
If you need visual aids, you could always create mockups. Find somebody on Fiverr and tell 'em to whip up something. Obviously, make sure it's something you're able to build. Once you have your mockups, go tell people you're building it and see their reaction. If you're feeling *really* confident, you can ever start to take pre-orders before you've actually built anything.

What are you working on /sugma/?

How much money do you think I could make setting up/maintaining ticketing systems for construction companies/contractors and the like?

bros raw SQL is so good
go autistic as fuck and write good constraints/triggers for all your tables such that invalid state is impossible to represent
then write all of your queries and shit as views/functions in a schema you point PostgREST at
use JWT for auth (natively handled by PostgREST/Postgres)
having all your business logic (especially constraints on data) in the DB results in shorter codebases
PGSQL is ugly as fuck tho, ngl, and debugging is a bitch
but it just werks

>>107152692
If you can propagate the errors properly to the user sure, makes i8n a bit harder too. But don't think you can get away with skipping all server side validation, someone can still mess with the session data or lag your server by submitting a bunch of crap, it is way faster and efficient to bounce that stuff on the server side than the database.

>>107153634
idgaf about i8n, if my shit becomes successful, I can hire people to do that
server-side validation goes into SQL with PL/PGSQL or even PGRX (Rust). triggers are extremely good at declaring what states should be illegal, and cascading changes across related tables such that illegal states are not produced
lag my server? Nginx does rate limiting, and acts as a reverse proxy to PostgREST
idek what you mean by session data

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official startup song