Thread 107153817

CONSOOMERS ARE IN FOR A SHOCK

IT'S GETTING WORSE AND IT'S GOING GLOBAL

I SEEN A 24TB HDD PRICE GO FROM $300 TO $400 IN A MONTH

SSDS PRICES CREEPING TOO LIKE RAM

WHY ARE WE SHOUTING

>>107153829
BEARS, THEY HUNGER FOR US BUT WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY.

NIGGER!

>>107153829
WHEN WE SHOULD BE BUYING HDDs
*ALL THE HDDs*

So what's the reason for the price surge? Some typhoon/flood in East Asia? Data centers buying up all the stock? Both?

WHY TF ARE SSDS MOONING TOO NOW???

>>107153906
LLMs. It's always LLMs.

>>107153817 (OP)
What exactly is happening?
I've been putting of buying a 4TB ssd and a 4 or 8TB hdd for a while now.
Prices seem unchanged on stores I checked.
Also if anyone can recommend some good drives I'd be grateful.

>>107153929
this price surge only started mid october, AI shit has been going on for way longer, so what's up with that
and why RAM

>>107153906
>>107153929
Jews. It's always jews.

>>107153906
It's just AI but when OpenAI announced they are buying ram wafers directly this triggered the shitshow of the last few weeks with every DC and business upgrading from windows 10 has created this mess

We can only hope many business are too lazy to bother upgrading anything at all

Just stop please :( I want to buy.

Now I know where the money from gold and bitcoin assets are pouring into.

>>107153910
AI DEMANDS THEIR SACRIFICE TOO
AI HAS SPOKEN.

I shall fucking kill myself.

>>107153910
Samsung Micron and Hynix (the 3 companies that make 100% of SSD chips) have said for weeks now NAND prices are going up. Seems like nobody believed them but here we are now, the price creep is real and is gonna get exponential just like RAM did

>>107153817 (OP)
Great now limit the companies too.

>2tb adata for 115
I have to but it now even though i don't want to.

>>107153817 (OP)
What do you need ram for? i5 and 16 gb is all I ever needed since 2000.

>>107154011
>companies literally won't let you buy shit from them now
In AI dystopia companies limit you

>>107154007
And it's because it's made from the same materials/tools as RAM?

>>107154029
>start getting more sales for stuff
>stop making stuff
Can someone with economy degree explain this to me?

next consoles are going to get fucking raped on prices lmao
$900 minimum

>>107153817 (OP)
>muh japan
Don't care. Just buy Chinese.

>>107154080
NVIDIA bought the allocations, so they'll be making exclusively for NVIDIA for like a year.

>>107154108
NVIDIA doesn't use DDR5 memory.

YOU VILL OWN NOTHING

>>107154116
They bought the fab allocations so they'll make what they need instead of consumer ddr.

>>107154116
it's all made in the same factories and the machines are set to fuel the slop machine

>>107154116
if they can sell expensive fab time to make HBM*/GDDR7 to NVIDIA instead of relatively cheap DDR5 to things like Corsair and co, what do you think they'd rather do?

>>107154130
>They bought the fab
THEY BOUGHT THE FAB
THEY BOUGHT THE MOTHERFUCKING FAB BRO

>>107154151
eggs/basket/etc
it'll all end in tears, this will.

>>107154225
fab allocations yes thanks for your understand, now enjoy price

thank fuck PC gaming is dead or I'd be worried

>OpenAI continues to ruin everything
Why didn't Deepseek kill it like you said it would?

>>107154292
Too big to fail America fuck yeah! Can't let China win my dude!

>>107154306
Musk will save America by destroying OpenAI. Fraudulent company needs their CEO to be locked up.

>>107154373
Musk is too busy grinding out that trillion comp package.

>bought 32gb of ddr6 for 120 dollars only like two months ago
>its now 260 dollars for the same kit

i hate this faggot capitalist world we live in

>>107153817 (OP)
how hard will prices crash after the AI bubble busts?

>>107154385
Multi-tasking

>>107154387
>of ddr6
bro you needed to hook us up, wtf

We need an American manufacturer of NAND

>>107154373
That moron said he's building his own TSMC

>>107154390
It'll only burst if China wins the AI/AGI/ASI race, and by then we're all dead anyway so who cares about the price of shit.

>>107154398
lmao im retarded
i mean ddr5-6000

>>107154390
They won't. The prices will stay the same and the manufacturers will try to gaslight into the prices.

>>107154404
Based. Let the Korean/Taiwanese seethe as America builds out their own fabs

>>107154410
TSMC can barely build their own TSMC in America

>>107153874
WHAT IF THE BEARS WERE ARMED

>>107154424
TSMC is beholden to Biden era unions and DEI complaining about engineers having sexy bikini girls on their desks

FULL CART
NO STOCK

>back to HDD
sovl

You know I kind of felt bad about spending too much on a new motherboard with 32GB DDR5 plus a 8TB SSD.... but now I don't feel so bad.

Man, if I didn't actually have to use these, I'd probably sell them right now if I wasn't using it.

>>107154457
Don't worry, we will adjust prices too.

>>107154464
i managed to buy my new pc right before all of this, im feeling pretty good.
i will upgrade in 6 years, maybe.

>>107153910
THE SLOP MUST BE ARCHIVED

>>107154391
His compensation package is filled with a bunch of metrics the company must achieve for him to get paid. Anything that doesn't get the company closer to him getting his trillion will be ignored.

>>107154457
Brooooo
HDD prices have been even worse for the past year

>>107154457
mate I bought a HDD for £330 6 months ago that same HDD went to £380 last month and I checked it today and it's £420 now. Maybe 4TB/8TB will be okay but at like 20TB up shit is getting crazy again.

>>107154684
>Brooooo
>>107154722
>mate
opinions discarded

>>107154722
waitfags always lose. Always.

>>107154727
I didn't state an opinion.

let the two McLarens knock each other out so Bearman can get the podium.

The only thing that comes to mind is the advice parents gave their children in the USSR:
If you see a line of people waiting somewhere, get in line.
That's exactly what's happening here right now.

>>107154784
shit, wrong tab, nevermind.

>>107153817 (OP)
*blocks your path*

what do?

>Can't buy SSD
>Can't buy HDD

TapeGODS we won big

Why doesn't Japan have any fabs? Leaving their semiconductor manufacturing to Taiwan and South Korea doesn't seem very wise

>>107154404
All he needs to do is subsidize a TSMC fab on the US, I think they pulled out last time because labor costs were too high?

>>107154080
>DRAM Prices Have Risen by a Whopping 172%
Is not the same as
>start getting more sales
Because people will stop buying if the cost gets too high

>>107154815
They do, they just gave up competing with TSMC. Its not like you need the latest fab process for mcus or armv6 cpus for control systems, ecus, and other devices.

>>107154798
Throw a rock or stick at its face, black bears are pussies without cubs.

>>107154830
We all know that China will annex Taiwan, TSMC, in the next five years.
But is anyone thinking about the short-term profits? How can this be explained in the quarterly figures?

The West is brain dead.

>>107153945
Server ram has been gobble up since january, PS5 and PS5 pro suffer a price hike on september, but more importantly it has to do with HBM (new ram) entering mass production, You need 3 times the sillicon wafer that it used to create the DRAM equivalent and OpenAI
secured 40% of the Samsung and SK hynix wafers for the next 10 year so everyone is operating at 60%.

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/dram/openais-stargate-project-to-consume-up-to-40-percent-of-global-dram-output-inks-deal-with-samsung-and-sk-hynix-to-the-tune-of-up-to-900-000-wafers-per-month

>>107153817 (OP)
Japanese people have historically been phone+console plebs, but have for some time moved to PC for more than email and eroge

>>107154815
Japan has Kioxia (formerly Toshiba) and Rapidus.

>>107153817 (OP)
DUDE LETS MAKE EVERY SINGLE THING UNAFFORDABLE LMAO

>>107155154
in 20 years people will look at the times when people could own supercomputers as the wild west while everyone is forced into cloud service to run anything that demands the computing power that a normal guy in the 2020s had at his home to browse porn and play minecraft

You will own nothing
You will be OK with paying 1K for a 1TB HDD in 2028
You will have nothing to hide because VPNs are banned
Every Youtube video you liked will be re-encoded at really low settings or straight up deleted to make room for AI sloppa
Your GPU and RAM are luxiries from the past
Embrace the future

>>107153817 (OP)
>go make your own fab if you don't like it
sort of amazing that a single company is allowed 40% of global production.

>>107153817 (OP)
HAHAHA I GOT MINE MOTHERFUCKERS

>>107155176
Yes.

>>107153817 (OP)
Japan just like to turn anything into a gacha

>>107155176
This.
The goyim shall never have access to affordable personal computing ever again. That was a mistake we won't repeat.

>>107153945
All of it was still drifting on the bubble of residual stock buffering the mismatch between supply and demand.
Residual stock has since emptied, and the bubble has gone :: plop! ::

Meaning prices are now in freefall - or rather, are skyrocketing like crazy.
Basic supply and demand. And the AI firms have plenty of investor money to burn to buy up everything, prices be damned - no matter the consequences for the consumer market.

this is why consumer and enterprise shit shout be divorced

i told them putting ecc on ddr5 would be a mistake and look at today

no consumer even bothered or cares what ecc is and now industry has come to gobble it all up because they can use the exact same shit on their servers too

you are just lucky enterprise has their own SSDs because if they wanted regular consumer ones we'd all be totally fucked

>>107153910
EVERY SSD THAT'S MANUFACTURED IS A WASTED RESOURCE THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED TO MAKE A DDR5 RAM OR VRAM CHIP.

>>107156475
you dont understand
i need my 5 million IOPS

>>107154443
White Americans are diversity for Taiwanese companies so without DEI Americans won't get hired.

>buy 16GB ram for $50 last week
>this week same ram $135

someone just fucking pop the bubble please

>>107153817 (OP)
Not just ram but Japan should be based and create their own nvidia alternative. Prices are becoming ridiculously high.

>>107155103
>40% for 10 years
>OpenAI
>Project Stargate
da fuq?

Mr. Insider, may we get a juicy QRD full of details from papers with TS/SCI code words printed at the top? Please?

kthx

>>107153945
>RAM
VRAM got too expensive
-- an AI guy.

Maybe I'm a selfish tendie consuming hobbiest and gamer, but shit like this is why I want the bubble to pop.

>>107154722
I need to fill my nas and was waiting for black friday, I hope they'll stay reasonable. Who else wants hdds anyway.

and everyone laughed at me for spending 30 dollars on 30 aliexpress 64gb m2 ssd's.

who is laughing now!

>>107156820
I bought 256gb of Corsair 2 sets of 2x64gb ram for $1000 Dollarydoos start of last week. It now is 2k.
I'm not sure if I even need it for upgrades.
Amazon gives me till January to decide to return it.

>>107159364
If you return it, do they give you back the price you bought it for, or the price it retails for? I'd just ebay that shit, $1000 is nothing to sneeze at, especially if you don't even need to use it.

>>107154007
>the 3 companies that make 100% of SSD chips
Wrong. China has YMTC and there is Kioxia/SD/WD as well.

>>107154029
We really are in a cyberpunk dystopia. Those old heads from 50-70s who never knew about our tech levels really had things figured out for how bad it really would get...

>>107154389
Wait till you see the commie world. From bad to worse.

>>107158305
bells dont go ding dong.
they go ding and that is all.

>>107159592
they are all around the world for them to see, and in history books.

>>107159592
Yeah, communism sucks balls for many reasons, at least with capitalism it just sucks based on your own actions and capabilities. In communism if you have retards at the top those retards will cause you to suffer and make your life more miserable.
>>107159603
They go "dr-dring!" at least those sorts of bells.

>>107159578
And just wait, renting GPUs and CPUs will be the next large scale grift. You'll own nothing.

>>107159634
People are already streaming games to their game console buddy, basically what you are saying.

>>107159578
>he was stealing ram

>>107159655
This is funny kino from the past.

>>107159677
I like how nobody is fat

>>107159834
Can't be unreasonably fat if you want to avoid the cyber crimes police division squad shooting you fat ass a new hole to shit out of.

>>107159848
why can't you use cyber rollerskates?

>>107159879
Or what about "floaters" boots that allow you to float around if we are being creative with get-away methods of retro-futurist cyberpunk world.

>>107153829
OP is illiterate, give him a break.

>>107159655
CCrimBro just wanted to pass his days peacefully with his mainframe and Giant Bonsai. He never hurt nobody.

>>107159919
I saw a white person selling "japanese style bonsai" by the road yesterday. I guess for xmas money, and now I realize we're here, this is it, the future.

>>107153817 (OP)
(clapping emoji)*1024.
Miraculous collaboration between the FOMO AI Slops and a huge forced migration demand to Windows 11, fueled by vulnerability anxiety that has been amplified through psyops.

We wise people can wait 10+ years because we already own six laptops and nine tower PCs.

It's all his fault. The world never recovered after this fatass got stuck in the canal.

>>107153817 (OP)
>/g/ complains that they want the golden age of computing (aka the 90s) back and computers are too accessible for plebs
>Computers reaching 90s pricing again where they are less accessible to plebs and can't stop complaining

>>107160851
/g/ finding out that they're the plebs lmao

>>107153965
kek
gamers are truly the most oppressed class

>>107155154
its a good thing desu
the less people have access to the internet the better

>bloat doesn't matter just buy more RAM
>who cares if the simple calculator app uses a gigabyte of ram
What now fags?

>>107161638
The answer is still to buy more RAM, you're not poor are you? If you are just get you money up, it's that simple.

So in summary, do I buy RAM and hard drive now? I was saving for a mini server build but I think I'll just prioritize buying the memory and storage....

>>107160851
Everyone can access their internet using their shitty phone now, that's the problem.

>>107161752
Large NAS stuffed with 500GB drives. While everyone is busy fighting over the TB drives, small drive chad will make out like bandits.

>>107161831
but the power bill doe

Is this the reason I can no longer find more of the 16TB Toshiba drives I bought like 3 years ago? I was thinking of adding some more to my new array in order to retire all the old 3TB disks I still have.