Thread 107154326

>UPGRADE & BUILD ADVICE
Post build list or current specs: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases
State BUDGET and COUNTRY or you will NOT be helped

>CASE
mATX: AP201, Lian Li A3, O11 Air Mini, XT M3, CH260
ATX: XT PRO (ULTRA), AIR 903 Base/MAX, Lancool 207, Flux Pro, Meshify 3, 4000D FRAME, X50
Dual Chamber: Y60/70, O11 Vision, Antec C8

>CPU
Gaming: 14600K, 9/7600X, 7800X3D 9800X3D
-Budget: 12400, 12600K, 7500F
Workstation: 265K, 285K, 9950X3D

*Avoid Asrock motherboards on AM5
*On Raptor Lake microcode updates should be considered mandatory, avoid second-hand

>COOLER
AIO: Thermalright Frozen Edge, Lian Li Galahad II Lite, Corsair Nautilus RS, Cooler Master Atmos, Liquid Freezer 3/Pro (unhandy mounting solution)
ITX/>42mm RAM: Mugen 6 Dual Fan, AXP120-X67

TIM: MX-6, MX-4, Duronaut

>RAM
*Prices and therefore recommendations are for the time being in flux
DDR5: 2x16GB or 2x24GB, 6000CL30 (AM5), 6400CL32 (LGA 1700)
Workstation: 2x 32GB (budget.), 2x48GB or 2x64GB (high-end)

>SSD (Keep firmware updated)
Budget: SN7100, NM790
High-end: SN850X, 990 Pro (Windows)
Premium: SN8100
https://borecraft.com/

>GPU
Budget: Arc B580, 9060xt 8gb (~$270)
-Used: 2060 Super, 2070, 2080ti
*8gb has become a major constraint even at 1080p
Midrange: 5060ti 16GB, 5070
-Used: 3080, 3080ti, 4070 (~$380)
4k : 5070ti, 9070xt
-Native: 5090

>PSU
Buying guide:
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/

>MONITOR
1080p: 24" 165/180hz, KTC H25X7
1440p: 27" 165/180hz IPS, KTC M27T6 (miniLED), Gigabyte MO27Q28G or LG 27GX700A-B (WOLED)
4K: KTC M27P6 (miniLED)

>OS
Activate Windows @ >>>/g/fwt

>CASE FANS
Meta: Case with good stock PWM fans
Midrange: Arctic P12 Pro, P14 Pro (5-pack, loud @ higher RPM)
High-end: Fractal Momentum, Noctua G2 (140mm or 120mm)

>News & Rumors
RTX 50 Super: 2026 launch. 24GB VRAM for 5070 Ti & 5080 Super, 18GB for 5070 Super.
Nova Lake 2026
Dual 3d cache "9950X3D2"

>Product Notice
PNY RTX 50 cards have QC issues (rattling fans, reports of 5070 & 5090 with blown capacitors)

Gigabyte RTX 50 & RX 9000 video cards: thermal gel has QC issues, Gigabyte claims only early production batches were affected.
https://www.igorslab.de/en/update-on-thermal-putty-on-gigabyte-graphics-cards-after-further-storage-oil-separation-to-an-alarming-extent-and-silence-as-a-strategy/

>PSU Reviews
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies
https://www.lttlabs.com/
https://www.kitguru.net/reviews/?category_name=power-supplies

For tier-list enjoyers:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1akCHL7Vhzk_EhrpIGkz8zTEvYfLDcaSpZRB6Xt6JWkc/

>Storage Reviews
https://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/index.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/?category=SSD
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/ssds/reviews

>Monitor Hunter
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1illeNLsUfZ4KuJ9cIWKwTDUEXUVpplhUYHAiom-FaDo/

>Omissions
-9060xt 16gb: Performance variable compared to 5060ti, consider cheaper second hand options like the 3080
-9070: Currently more expensive than the 5070
-"Futureproofing": Nvidia gpus in general have been aging better than Radeon regardless of vram or marginal differences in raw performance

Leave any constructive suggestions for edits to the op. Is slowly being worked on.

Pic: >>107150071

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BUILD NOW

2026 IS GONNA BE A SHITSHOW

BUILD NOW OR WAIT UNTIL 2027 AT THE EARLIEST

SSDS PRICES UP

RAM PRICES UP

HDD PRICES UP

CASE PRICES UP

GPU PRICES STABLE FOR NOW BUT WILL BE GOING UP VERY VERY SOON

50 SUPER SERIES CANCELLED/DELAYED TO HOLIDAY 2026 A FUCKING YEAR

CPU PRICES STABLE BUT INTEL 12TH-14TH PRICES ARE UP

NO NEW SOCKET LAUNCHES UNTIL LATE 2026 AT THE VERY EARLIEST AND THEY WILL BE SUPER EXPENSIVE

GTA 6 DELAYED

CONSOLE PRICES WILL 100% RISE AGAIN SOON

BUILD NOW

THERE IS NO TOMORROW

THERE IS NO TOMORROW

what are you doing to fuck up greentext in the second post when you bake anyways?

Question, plz no laugh

If your pc is getting say 180fps and your monitor is 166hz.... what happens?
I understand you get 166fps but how does it select "which" 166 get picked? how does that shit work

>>107154447
The latest frame rendered by the gpu is whatever is output
It can get very complicated to go deeper

errrmm armory crate is a malware but do i seriously need it for my motherboard ? im in between gigabyte aorus ice and asus tuf . both are being B850M motherboards , and tuf has 3 ssd ports and offers more power for future cpu updates , thus cheaper in my region , so why wouldnt i go with asus ?

>>107154442
fuck if i know, i did edit the 2nd post ever so slightly for this one and didnt clean up properly
i should have prepared it on a text first but since i had already posted the main one i didnt want to wait
I dont like posting the OP im just trying to minimize schizos from doing it

>this generation is terrible grrrr
> i'll just wait for the 5070 sup-ACKK
Everyone point and laugh

>>107154468
You don’t need to use armoury crate, just download the utilities and drivers you need from the board’s support page

>>107154326 (OP)
>If the motherboard is using an older BIOS version, updating the BIOS will be necessary to support the CPU.
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee guess Imma have to use am5 so I don't gotta deal with bios bullshit

Slowly but surely, Arcbros

thinking about going all amd. Just wanna play maxed out 1080p and want parts that will last me a few years. I'll probably upgrade the gpu next year

>>107154617
>maxed out 1080p
Even with fsr nah, need another step up (5070/9070) to do that even just for now (with dlss/fsr)

>>107154617
I really would not get the rm850e. I had that PSU and sent it back because it had the worst annoying coil whine I've ever heard. I got a rm850x and it has zero issues. I looked it up after and it's apparently a known issue with the 850e. Terrible psu I do not recommend it.

>spending more on ram than i spent on my last gpu
what fresh hell is this

>>107154617
>itx mb
>atx case
nigga the fuck you doing?

So I should get this now, right

>>107154713
If you're lucky there'll be a 10% discount on black friday and if you buy it from a store that drops the price on BF you can usually karen enough to get a partial refund

>>107154703
I'm not set on a case yet I just added a random one to get a rough total of the cost

>>107154570
Yeah if you are getting a more modern am4 chip a lot of boards require to be updated
I did it for mine and it wasn't fun, nothing went wrong, everything went exactly as advertised but fuck it was tense having the board there with just the usb and the power supply

>>107154617
>I'll probably upgrade the gpu next year
To what? supers are a "maybe" at best and one year away

>>107154813
yeah I was gonna go for a Ryzen 5 5600X but I don't wanna deal with the headache of having to update the bios

>>107154926
thats the chip i needed to update my current mobo for
just in case i will reiterate that is pretty straight forward, its just a bit nerve wracking for the 5-6 minutes it took

>>107154926
>oh no, I can’t stick a USB stick in my PC and wait for 3 minutes.
your time isn’t that valuable and also many motherboards just let you update it from the internet to make it literally a 1 step process.

>>107154713
why does EVERYONE buy the gaming trio wtf

>>107154713
as the other anon said ts a good premium model so i dont see it drop below $799 so its up to you if you want to wait for $40, for cheaper models i think the asus prime this generation its quite good in terms of cooling and its usually cheaper

>>107154372
Ryzen 5 5600 + RX 6600 with 16gbs of ram here
I guess I'll just wait a year, I'm not playing many games lately so I'll be fine I guess
I've thought about upgrading to some X3D on AM4, but still it won't help much beside gaming which I'm not focused on lately
But I might buy some more ram and ssd

>>107154570
there's zero reason for anyone to buy am4 new, you just upgrade to zen3 x3d chips for cheap

>>107154617
>want parts that will last me a few years
Don't get the 9060 XT then, really any AMD card.

>>107155020
Nobody buys AMD GPUs to begin with, idk why you guys feel the need to warn people away from them so often. It’s like telling people to be afraid of the boogeyman or Bigfoot.

>>107154372
Still waiting for DDR6

>get AMD graphics drivers for my laptop through OEM
>everything worked as of 3 months ago
>zero (0) changes
>get pic related today for unknown reasons
Are you serious, AMD?
How does your software that was deemed compatible 3 months ago suddenly become incompatible when nothing has changed?

>>107154155
>The ASUS ROG XG27AQWMG is the 1440p OLED monitor you should be trying to buy atm (27" 1440p, Tandem WOLED + TrueBlack Glossy finish, $599 MSRP).
I was looking at 1440p too, but that means I cant play on my ps5 pro in 4k. Seems a little bit of waste, no? Thats why I was looking at the 4k monitors, mainly I was eyeing the PG27UCDM. Now I do realize that on my pc I cant take full advantage of 4k, but if my gpu can manage 120fps at slightly lower settings on more demanding games then I think it's a good monitor to future proof myself with or no? If I bought the 4k monitor and then decided to upgrade to a 5080 in the future I'd already have the monitor for it and wouldn't need to spend more time and money in selling the 1440p one and trying to find a 4k one for a good deal. Currently the PG27UCDM is on sale, down from 1200 to 999. Or is it just not worth it in my case?

>>107155197
>laptop
>oem driver
windows update

>>107155197
it's windows updating shit by itself, not amd

>>107155197
windows may have updated and now your wddm is incompatible.

>>107155197
windows + amd = name a worse collab protip you can't

>>107155212
>>107155213
>>107155214
>>107155219
Why is AMD+Windows like this?

>>107155248
Microsoft and AMD's graphics priority is for XBOX

Neither actually care if the hardware works on windows, especially Radeon graphics cards.

Is a Peerless Assassin good enough for a 9800 X3D?

>>107155295
sure

>>107155153
because if we don't then we get mentally unstable faggots with severe buyers remorse like the nicotroon who shit up the thread

>>107155248
because amd is shit, how many times do we need to go over this

>>107155248
it's not amds fault that windows can't update properly

>>107155351
... they make the drivers and inside of the drivers they make the hw detection, which in his picture is failing, faggot

>>107155368
they update the driver but don't update the settings app with it. idiot

>>107155368
>>107155248
its microsofts fault for pushing out garbage updates

>>107155368
>>107155394
This is exactly how the meetings go between the companies btw

should I get a 9070xt or am I really better off getting a 5070

>>107155402
$500 for a 5070 will be fine

>>107155402
the 9070xt competes with 5070ti and 5080 not 5070

>>107155175
personally i'm waiting for DDR9

>>107155468
Nice ram oc, respect

>>107155398
the driver works. you can confirm in dxdiag.
what doesn't work is the amd control panel. its not a driver, its a regular app. you can install it from microsoft store even. microsoft needs to fix their shit that breaks exes and apps.

>>107155524
It happened to me too. I installed the driver for my card and it didn't work because I already had a newer driver for a different card installed and it didn't overwrite the settings app. I went to uninstall it and found 4 different Adrenalin versions installed.
I have a lot of GPUs that I switch between.

>>107154372
>BUILD NOW
>
>2026 IS GONNA BE A SHITSHOW
>
>BUILD NOW OR WAIT UNTIL 2027 AT THE EARLIEST
>
>SSDS PRICES UP
>
>RAM PRICES UP
>
>HDD PRICES UP
>
>CASE PRICES UP
>
>GPU PRICES STABLE FOR NOW BUT WILL BE GOING UP VERY VERY SOON
>
>50 SUPER SERIES CANCELLED/DELAYED TO HOLIDAY 2026 A FUCKING YEAR
>
>CPU PRICES STABLE BUT INTEL 12TH-14TH PRICES ARE UP
>
>NO NEW SOCKET LAUNCHES UNTIL LATE 2026 AT THE VERY EARLIEST AND THEY WILL BE SUPER EXPENSIVE
>
>GTA 6 DELAYED
>
>CONSOLE PRICES WILL 100% RISE AGAIN SOON
>
>BUILD NOW
>
>THERE IS NO TOMORROW
>
>THERE IS NO TOMORROW
Jokes on them. I can waitfag longer than the market can stay retarded. I have a fucking z170 with a Frankenstein 9980HK and I maxed out the ddr4 this year.

IDGAF about this particular branch of computing anymore and will probably pivot to network and thin clients/SBC.

I was gonna bite the bullet and buy a GPU over their MSRP because I understand demand is high but I absolutely won't be paying twice the normal price for RAM

Which graphics card makers tend to have better lincucks support? I remember many years ago, Linus told Nvidia to go fuck themselves but wondering if anything's changed since then.

>half the reason of me buying a rollable desk chair is to have usable arm rests too
>if you buy an embody you can never have them aligned with the desk due to not being adjustable back and forth
is this the final cuck after paying 2k for a chair? or am I just exaggerating?

>>107155612
nvidia is still miles behind
9070xt is about the best gpu you can buy for linux for the sheer stability over the 5090

>>107155535
you can ditch amd adrenalin panel, moreclocktool does everything it does.

What the best I can get for $500-600? In the US looking for 1080p gaming. I prefer AMD cards and processors.

For a 9800X3D at 1440p...
5070 Ti or 9070 XT
And is this RAM suitable?

I'm retarded when it comes to hardware, so please bear with me.
Just got 5700x3D and I feel like Deepcool Gammaxx 300 isn't able to keep up with it. Maybe I also applied thermal paste poorly. Should I get some other fan, nothing too fancy, any recommendations?

>>107155629
you're not buying anything decent for that little
it takes about $1k to match a ps5 pro and have a path to potential upgrades beyond ps6 pro's performance

>>107155612
Nothing has changed since then. Nvidia has told linux to fuck itself harder and disabled more things that used to work on newer cards. Linux copers use some open source discord troon drivers to make radeon garbage passable on linux since the amd drivers are also terrible.

>>107155203
if you only want 240hz there is no negative to buying 4k over 1440p
it will look substantially better in everything
it's a no brainer
you will not regret it, unless you want 32", then you can also consider that, same thing

>>107155626
No, I don't use windows enough for it to matter.

>>107155671
What do I care about a playstations performance? The most strenuous games I would run are ARK, Total Warhamster III, and Elden Ring.

>>107155675
the linux part is mentally ill schizobabble
amd drivers are so good on linux that you don't even think about them

>>107155667
It's a 92mm 3-pipe cooler with a 120mm fan, it's entry level.
Does your cpu hold max boost at all times?

>>107155649
both cards have similar punching power, the 5070TI has the advantage of better support (dlss, path tracing, blablabla)
yes the ram is more than fine

>>107155695
because it's a point of reference to typical normalfag hardware
600 bucks is where you're cutting down on shit you don't want to cut down, like future upgradeability, case, psu etc

5070 or 5070ti if I already have to pay $200 for fucking 32GB of ram

>>107155714
I think it's spins up pretty fast when gaming, honestly somewhat distracting.

>>107155763
AM4X3D boosts fast and hot

>>107155649
Depends on how long do you plan to upgrade and if you want to resell the card later on, considering that AMD already put RDNA2 on the maintenance branch after 4 years RDNA4 will probably hit that in 2029

>>107155763
what is your boost clock and temp under 100% all core load?
you may be able to switch to silent mode in bios

>>107155749
>like future upgradeability,
I am going to be real honest here. I have never upgraded a single pc I have ever owned. I've had 5 since 2000. I just crank settings down or downgrade the direct x in the ini until shit I like runs. I would agrre a cheap psu aint a great idea. I also dont like that thing in th op post about 8gb of vram being a bottleneck. That sounds like a hard floor on how cheap of a card I have to run. Its cool though, I'll just price some shit out and post it here so anything catastrophically bad can be pointed out.

>>107155763
whats "nothing fancy" because a phantom spirit is 45€ in my country and would keep that thing frigid, just check what thermalright is selling on the 25-30 range or whatever you want to spend
Or go to pcpp coolers order for ratings until you find one that fits your budget

>>107155798
How do I check any of this?
>>107155814
Just meant like no RGB and belts and whistles. I'll check thermalright, thanks.

>>107155841
run a basic all core workload like cpu-z built-in benchmark "stress" button, 7zip benchmark, cinebench. Nothing too heavy.
open hwinfo64 Sensors
I think 7zip is the easiest because you don't have to download anything

Should I buy an AMD BC-250 single board computer for Linux gaming? They got for about 100 euro here. I'd only need to 3D print a fan mount (seller provides schematics) and use some random PSU I have lying around to power it.
For that price it delivers roughly RX6600 performance, which is mad impressive.

>>107155841
the phantom spirit is the "go to" air cooler, its like 45-50 and performs really well
you can get by with something cheaper for a 5800x3d but you wont be disappointed with that one

>>107155872
that's a good price for the unit. it's a cool toy, maybe I should buy one too.

>>107155872
>For that price it delivers roughly RX6600 performance
This is literally what I run now. Well a 6600XT. Fucking wild.

>>107155301
The people who buy AMD already know that they’re picking an alternative to the mainstream brand. It’s the normies (for lack of a better term) that need to be told about the alternatives to the mainstream. I couldn’t be happier with my 9070xt.

>>107155882
It's made from recycled PS5 boards allegedly, with cut down GPU cores, so it makes sense. The PS5 itself is the equivalent to an RX 6700 XT and R5 3600 or so. This is cut down to RX 6600 (roughly, slightly below) and R5 2600 or thereabouts.

>>107155623
>>107155698
Thanks brohs

>>107155897
It is a real ps5 apu with 2 cores and some of the gpu disabled

>>107155897
>>107155907
Why do they cutdown/disable some of the cores?

>>107154330
>9950X3D2
What are we thinking about this??

ngl I am nervous about building a new pc. I haven't built a pc in like 10 years with a gtx 750

>>107155884
> I couldn’t be happier with my 9070xt.
It was the same for the people that got the rx590 over the 2080 back in 2018. The issue happens later on when they AMD users realize better support long term is not a meme.

>>107155869
I did the CPU-Z stress test, not sure if this is the correct window in HWinfo, but I found temps here
>>107155877
I'll look at this one as well, thank you.

>>107155942
probably faulty chips, otherwise they would have sold them in ps5s

>>107155950
the 590 was a 1060 6GB competitor if anything
...same with the 570 and 580 actually, huh

>>107155950
now let's see nvidia's support on linux
oh...

>>107155952
It appears you are thermally throttling. I believe the temp limit of zen3x3d is that low.
You can try reapplying the thermal paste and see if it improves.

>>107155950
You mean 5700XT
590 is die shrunk 480

>>107155950
My oldest AMD GPUs still have driver support and my oldest Nvidia ones just lost driver support this year. Guess what, they’re still just as usable as they’ve ever been.They all get plenty of support by the time you’re ready to ditch them. It’s really only an issue if you’re a poorfag buying a used GPU several gens later.

>>107155925
am5 won't be a good upgrade until zen6 x3d

>>107155967
The AMD RX 590 was released on November 15, 2018 same as the 2080, raster performance was similar back in the day too and everyone memed on nvidia because muh gen on gen uplift.

>>107155968
You speak like AMD did not put in the maintenance branch RDNA2 products less than weeks ago, or like they did not do that for Vega, Polaris and that the Radeon 7 laptops got literally less than 2 years of support

>>107155197
You can manually edit your laptop's info into the list of IDs the driver installer checks. It is as simple as adding it into the list and it will install.

>>107155988
My vega driver is dated July 2025

Im going to build a rig from scratch very soon but am curious about something
Is there much of a difference between base models and other versions of said branch? Like if i wanted a 5080 is it better for me to maybe say go for an msi 5070 ti vanguard or just go for a base gigabyte 5080 model? Is it just paying for better cooling system?what about hardware quality when it comes to its longevity?even when it comes to performance and ability to tune cards the higher and more premium model doesnt seem to be much of higher ground when you see blackbird pc tech video on it.
Would appreciate any replies and insight if i should base model a 5080 or go high end 5070 ti.Cheers

>>107155981
No, the the 5700XT came out July 7, 2019, i'm talking about AMD releasing products that look good on paper and in benchmarks and then aging like dogshit creating full schizos like the amd rx 590

>>107155755
>5070ti

>>107156000
The Radeon VII was matching the RX 6600 XT before it was put on there, i could go even further look at INT8 FSR4 that got leaked, it proved both RDNA 2 and RDNA3 can run FSR4 just like nvidia can make a RTX 2060 run DLSS4, its things like this that create full AMD schizos

>>107155988
and what do the windows drivers have to do with linux?
besides this is a retarded nitpick
you're talking about getting 33 fps after heavy upscaling in a ps6 game instead of 30 fps

>>107156010
I don't understand your babble.
The 590 is a really neat chip, it's 480/580 manufactured in the GloFo 12nm process instead of 14nm.
Supposedly good overclockers. Kind of rare cards, I don't think I've seen any for sale here.

>Receive Arctic MX-6 (8g) delivery
>It's Rev. 3 (4 is the latest)
So we're binning thermal pastes now? At least it's supposed to pump out less.

>>107156002
cooling or binning are never comparable to simply buying a bigger chip with more cores enabled
if you get a good bin its just a happy accident most of the time and your gpu can be clocked a bit higher than average
then watercooling can be used to increase perf of a gpu since you can move more heat and throttle less

>>107156010
>aging like dogshit
Not that it’s true as a general rule (Turing is just a great generation) but again, it only matters for the ultra poorfags buying used GPUs years later. The people who actually buy GPUs from these companies get plenty of support. If you’re the kind of poorfag who is mad about driver support, you should be buying an AMD GPU to begin with, because you can’t afford new Nvidia.

>>107156025
Graphics Drivers have much to do with shaders and proper DirectX12/Vulkan/OpenGL than operative system, if you want to run emulators for example, if you do have a Vega laptopt as you claim go download some emulators and see what happen with your "linux drivers"

>>107156002
There can be branches with known card-killing issues, as you can read in the OPs. There can also be manufacturers who shipped thermal throttling cards, although this should be basically eliminated nowadays.
But the main things would be warranty and post-purchase support - how easily can you get a replacement if it breaks? - and the noise levels.

>>107155755
For 1440p 5070 is the better "value" choice anyways, you pay the premium for the 70ti if you need the vram for 4k or don't think 12gb will be usable 4/5 years from now.

>>107156048
I'm too lazy to turn my FX-8350 rig on, can you post the result of vulkaninfo --summary? It should have all the extensions and the latest version.

>>107156031
AMD has an history of product aging badly that looked good on paper like currently RDNA4 does, the RX 580 is a really good example because it launched at the same time as the 20s which recieved the same backlash as blackwell even RDNA 1 doesn't support direct x 12 ultimate which launched at the end of 2021 unlike Turing

>>107156069
so you dont have one, lmao

>>107155988
to be fair in 2018 I, and many people I was talking to, assumed the 20-series was a spin off for people who NEED muh ray tracing, and that next year we'd see the regular 11-series and so on...
honestly it wasn't until the 30-series came out that we realized "oh, RTX slop is here to stay huh"

>>107156073
RX 480 launched 2 years before 2080. Take your meds weirdo.

>>107156082
RTX is something you can always turn off, the issue comes from microsoft and directx12 / Vulkan and other forms of graphics rendering pipelines not supporting their architecture which requires active driver support and then these retards doing what are they doing now with RDNA2 which has cards that even match their current flagship, go see how much performance without RT a 9070XT on the 6950 xt which causes the mental illness

>>107156048
>vega laptop
>emulators
like fucking what? you're not emulating anything beyond a ps2 or wii on something that weak
again retard, this doesn't apply to linux, their drivers are open source

>>107156082 (me)
to add, a big part of that was the added price, I assumed that the 20-series were of a new GPU class "RTX" and that they were for extreme high end enhusiasts who need Ray Tracing for professional applications, and games with Ray Tracing being just... tech demos for the new tech
I really hoped that we'd still have a GTX series specifically for rasterized gaming

>>107156085
the RTX 590 which is the GPU i have mentioned several times launched November 15, 2018 with 8gb of vram , RDNA 1 would not come out until several months of the next year and tons of retards would buy this dogshit card over nvidia because of benchmarks

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-590.c3322

>>107156104
Once again regardles if you are on windows or linux you are still using Vulkan or similar graphic motors and the shaders are exactly the same even the steam deck alternative Proton runs DXVK which emulates directx12, you are tech illiterate

The 5070ti will be the last "high end" GPU that is ever available under $1000

>>107156112
Yes I know, it's a cool collector's item.
>>107156078
Fucker.

>>107156151
Now boot any modern emulator and see the vulkan performance, which was my initial point

>>107156128
look up what open source means next time you open your mouth

>>107156162
I know whats open source, once again Vulkan runs proper optimization , when drivers get into the polaris / vega branch amd stops supporting them here https://github.com/KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Docs

>>107156159
I'll take your word for it.

>>107156107
That wasn't an unreasonable assumption to be fair especially when they released the GTX 16 series off Turing. But 30 series dropped and crypto took off so much nvidia didn't even need to make concessions to gamers any more at all. Now we're a much worse place with AI and all pretense has dropped. Even if the don't sell cards they just limit their flow and shove them into geforce now servers instead.

>>107156165
again, what fucking emulators are you going to be running where your most pressing issue isn't the measly performance of something this old

>>107156165
>amd stops supporting them here
it's not up to amd what freedesktop supports

What is the least gay looking AIB RTX 5080 model?
I'm, partial to the FEs since they're the cleanest ones visually but making them two slots was a retarded choice from Nvdia, so I have too look somewhere else.
t. 3080 FE owner

>>107156237
anon this is the issue with amd, Vega was still releasing products with vega igpu's in 2020 and early 2021 just like now you can still buy brand new 6600 xt or how many RDNA2 IGPU's are across their products

>>107156271
Vega works fine, what issues are you having?

>>107156255
I'm gonna take the bait, listen these drivers are not mainteined by randoms, both nvidia and amd engineers offer constant support to fix issues with them. for example look at this Vulkan Issue

https://github.com/KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Docs/issues/2400

And look at the profile of the people talking, one is an official employee at nvidia and the other is an official part of the Vulkan project group

https://github.com/oddhack

https://github.com/cubanismo

>>107156276
They are not actively supported across any Graphics API's like Directx12, Vulkan ,etc

>>107156300
If they're having fun who am I to stop them.

>>107156307
Which specific issue are you having? There is a driver for Windows 10 and Windows 11, not to mention Linux. Hell even Mac Os X has vega drivers I think.

>>107156322
>Which specific issue are you having
They sold them during 2021/2022 and dropped support of them so you cant run direct x12 ultimate in any of them
> There is a driver for Windows 10 and Windows 11,
Operative system is meaningless when it comes to driver support for Graphicals API's.

>>107156267
Gigabyte Gaming OC looks decent, but way overpriced.
Gigabyte also tooled the heat sink to cool the memory chips and VRM with thermal putty, it may be annoying to replace it with thermal pad or something else in the future.

>>107156342
>annoying to replace
that's an understatement
I saw that Jay video that shit looked worse than k5 pro

>>107156342
>Gigabyte Gaming OC looks decent
true but ti costs almost 1200€
>thermal putty
why the fuck would they do this garbage. I know they're retarded when it comes to software but putting thermal putty instead of thermal pads on a 1000€ product is beyond dumb.

>>107156339
DirectX 12 ultimate includes mesh shaders, that is a hardware feature that debuted on RDNA2, of course earlier releases cannot possibly work with it.

>>107156392
>I saw that Jay video
link please
I remember swapping my 3080FE's "pads"years ago and thought GPU manufacturers couldn't make more retarded decisions regarding VRM and Memory cooling

>>107156307
Polaris, Vega, RDNA1 and 2 are in maintenance mode, unlike actual legacy cards that receive NO driver support.
This card was moved to legacy 4 years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cORxnwO2ac

>>107156418
https://youtu.be/qPdJqlEiMhk

a fun bit - they didn't bother putting any on the vrm on the back, the backplate is literally just for show

Whats the cheapest shit heap that will run SS14? Asking for a friend.

If I want 64gb DDR5 do I need to get 2x32gb sticks or can I get away with 5 16gb sticks?
Asking because I'm currently on 2x16gb DDR4 and wanted to know if AM5 is as memory sensitive as much as AM4 was. I avoided the

please shill me some solid AM5 boards anons, this is overwhelming

>>107156488
name 3 non-negotiable features you want from a board

>>107156495
Boards have features?

>>107156488
Buy the cheapest one that satisfies your requirements, easy.
>>107156487
Stick with 2 sticks.

>>107156488
asrock steel legend b850

>>107156035
>>107156061
Hmmm i see,i ask these questions since its the very first time im building an actual proper pc that wasnt some ancient pentium relic shit that could only run shit like cs 1.6 and wc3,so am not super knowledgeable on the recent stuff and how proper rigs are.I come from Kosova so parts here are way too overpriced and prebuilds are shilling 5060s for 1.5k euros xddd so im buying 90% of parts in germany this december since ill be visiting and staying over for 2 weeks so am not sure if i should go for base 5080 or a premium model 5070 ti.Since im from a shithole and am buying abroad and bringing em over by plane myseld stuff like warranty and customer support wont really be much of a thing for me unless i do a i give X part to my sis or cousin and then his or her uncle etc etc bring em over to me or i go there againt etc.So yea in yours opinion and anyone here,would it be best for base model 5080 or high end premium 5070 ti shit like vanguard from msi for example

>>107156495
>3 non-negotiable features you want from a board
not that anon but
>good bluetooth and WIFI
>at least 4 NVME slots
>non-obtrusive heatsinks that don't interfere with GPU and air cooler size
>big enough BIOS chips (was an issue during AM4)
>good BIOS settings not hidden behind proprietary names

>>107156401
Thermal putty is better than pads, especially for uneven surfaces and the gaming OC uses the lowest end cooler Gigabyte makes for that SKU, so it’s a great fit. Even for the higher end models, it’s what I would prefer. FWIW, I’ve had one of these since launch and the putty hasn’t moved even a little bit. It’s a non issue blown up by reddit.

>>107156542
>Stick with 2 sticks.
Was planning to but 32gb sticks are overpriced as fuck for some reason.

>>107156593
Use case for 64gb? I feel like anyone who needs more than 32gb needs a lot more.

>>107156583
You can get a board with bluetooth?

>>107156588
>Thermal putty is better than pads
LOL
LMAO even
what're you gonna do if you need to replace said putty? RMA the card back to gigabyte?

>>107156495
great VRMs, I would like the ability to OC any current and future am5 CPUs
3x gen4x4 m.2 slots that dont share/switch lanes with the x16 port.
I cant think of a third desu
Dont care about wifi, usb C, usb4, gen5 m.2, audio chip quality

I just want a board I can put in a 9800x3d now and later whatever end of life AM5 flagship CPU, with the ability to OC it
I want to be able to fill out any m.2 slots knowing ill get gen4x4 and not worry about it taking away from something else.

>>107156593
what about literally who brands or regular green sticks without expo?

>>107156601
>Use case for 64gb?
firefox tabs. Like so many firefox tabs I constantly need to close them down since 32gb is not enough. I just want to not have to close my tabs, anon.
Oh, and some vidya.

>>107156604
I just repasted my laptop and removing the old thermal putty is quite simple. In fact, using putty to repaste is much easier since you don’t have to know that pad thickness for each part, just put it on and let mounting pressure take care of the rest. Besides, high performance putty like ltp81 outperforms even the best thermal pads. Where Gigabyte cheaper out was using paste on the die instead of PTM7950 like everyone else. Criticize them for that rather than the putty bullshit.

>>107156624
when I open 10 or more tabs I get overwhelmed and just close them all
they are still available in history if they really were important

>>107156602
My old X470 board has both wifi and bluetooth.

>>107156624
anon im a firefox tabbmaxxer myself, usually having 500+ tabs. I have 24gb of ram, once you are hitting your ram limit open a new empty tab, close out of firefox, reopen it and restore that window(hamburger menu > history > restore session / recently closed windows).
you now have all 500+ tabs back, but none are loaded. I usually have 3-5 windows of firefox with hundreds of tabs in each and its no problem. Also, you can increase the amount of recently closed windows firefox will remember in the config

>2x32GB bottom of the barrel CL40 Corsair Vengeance 6000MT costs 420 euro
just fuck my shit up

>>107156602
Most, if not all, WiFi boards also have Bluetooth. Unfortunately, most AM5 "WiFi" boards use a cheapo chipset so he'd be better off adding it himself.

>>107156633
>they are still available in history if they really were important
the hundreds of tabs are important to me, anon. I can't let good tabs die like that.
>>107156648
>restore
not possible in incognito. I don't like my history and cookies saved on the PC unless I specifically choose to.

>>107155749
I may have been to quick to write you off. After filling a cart it looks like I would need to spend at least 900 to even bother at all with this and that just builds the same computer I have for 200 dollars more.

https://www.asrock.com/Graphics-Card/Intel/Intel%20Arc%20Pro%20B60%20Passive%2024GB/index.us.asp

WE ARE SO BACK

>>107156613
>3x gen4x4 m.2 slots that dont share/switch lanes with the x16 port.
good luck with that AM5 has been trash regarding lane sharing
You know which boards don't? Asrock ones lol

>>107156578
uhh surely you have online shops that ship into kosova
like amazon de

>>107154589
Any rumors on B60 availability?

I just watched an ebay auction where 32GB ddr5 sold for nearly double the price it was worth brand new 6 weeks ago

>X870E, X870, B850, B840, X670E, B650E, B650, A620A, and A620

could the guy doing this shit at amd be beaten to death?

>>107156741
a- poopoo weak pc/prebuilt
b- decent
x- premium
600- ryzen 7000
800- ryzen 9000

>When M.2_3 & M.2_4 are occupied … PCIEX16(G5) will run x8 only.

WHY IS THIS ALLOWED

>>107156741
AMD's PCIe lane allotment is trash no matter what chipset you buy

>>107156857
METAL COSTS MONEY

What are the motherboard VRM coil whine lottery odds in 2025?

is it worth buying a ryzen 5 3600 to pair with a 9060? I found a motherboard/ram/cpu combo for $200

>>107156905
it's never worth buying AM4 now

>>107156857
>2025
>desktop platforms are still limited to 24 PCI-E lanes
Yea, that's retarded.

>>107156905
$200 is about the going rate for a used 3600+B450+RAM so it's not like you're beating the spread. It's not a terrible pairing but you can probably do better.

>>107156905
how much ram does that combo have, if it has 32gb then the sticks alone may be worth $200 unironically

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVEOoDUV96A

a lot of you need to watch this
i have been saying this here for way too long
brands do matter
after purchase support matters even more

>>107157007
people will they they don't then cry about asrock all day

>>107157023
again but in english

>>107156709
Nope they dont ship here and our own online shops are overpriced so since im coming over to germany im doing my purchases there since its cheaper.And i think ill be buying some base 5080 model

i finally got my silverstone flp02 case, lads

I have a 6900XT, and I'm wondering if I should start thinking about an upgrade.
RTX 5090 is too expensive. Should I be looking at the 5080? Is that a significant enough upgrade to justify the cost? And will the 5080 Super be significantly better than the 5080?

Man, as someone new to most of this shit, trying to figure out a good AM5 board that doesn't have to dip into premium shit is a pain.

>>107157035
well you need an intellimouse now

>>107157035
Why are your 5.25" bays empty?

>>107157040
>Should I be looking at the 5080?
No
>Is that a significant enough upgrade to justify the cost?
No
>And will the 5080 Super be significantly better than the 5080?
No

>>107157051
haven't decided if i want a disk drive or something else. any suggestions?

>>107157046
do they make wireless versions?

>>107157060
Nope you'd need to find a modded one or diy

>>107157007
>Asus outsell other brands by 6:1 to 10:1 depending on the product
well shit

>>107157041
You should know what you need from your motherboard.
High end boards are rarely worth it unless you want something very specific like dual 10Gb LAN or 2x8 PCI-E support.

>>107157084
>>107156613
NTA but this is what I want, any suggestions ?

>>107157060
Cup holder for sure.
HDD/SSD SATA dock can also be nice.

>>107157075
ASUS's total revenue is greater than MSI & Gigabyte's combined revenue.
Don't have to consider ASRock because they're basically owned by ASUS.

>>107156990
just 16gb. I just wanna play bf6 maxed out at 1080p.

>>107157040
Can you afford a 5090, with the dram prices going retarded buying a 5090 before they get a price hike its a good idea

>>107157125
I could if I really wanted to, but I'm not about to pay $2k+ for a GPU.

>>107157124
BF6 its a cpu heavy game, look for combos with a Ryzen 9600x/7600x at least.

>asrock b450 pro4
>1 x M.2 Socket (M2_2), supports M Key type 2230/2242/2260/2280/22110 M.2 SATA3 6.0 Gb/s module and M.2 PCI Express module up to Gen3 x2 (16 Gb/s)**
>If M2_1 is occupied, PCIE4 will be disabled.
okay wtf. So I have a 1TB nvme ssd installed in M2_1. I want to get another one, but it's limited to only SATA nvme? Do I have to get a pcie adapter card to get another nvme so my read/write speeds are less throttled? I am kinda pissed just learning this now.

>>107157140
It's the cheapest it will be ever be considering DRAM shortage spiked memory modules prices to up to 172% and discreete gpus use GDDR but have not been affected by the shortage yet.

>>107157164
All im saying is that if you dont mind selling it later, it make sense to get it now and sell it later if the the 5080 super actually reelases (there was a rumour that the whole series got cancelled and other leaker said it just a delay because of the DRAM shortage)

>>107157164
>>107157180
Yeah, there's just no world in which I'm going to pay that much money for a GPU for gaming. It's not going to happen.

>>107157140
there is basically no world where buying a 5080 over a 5070ti ever makes sense unless you need the paltry cuda core count bump and if you really do you'd buy a 5090.

Nvidia has destroyed the xx80 class card by gimping it into irrelevance. If the 5080 was 24GB it would make sense. But those super cards are waitfag meth at this point.

>>107157091
Gigabyte B850 AI TOP I don't think you can find anything similar at this price point.

>>107157207
You are saying the same thing people said about the 4090 and look at how expensive a 2nd hand 4090 is to get right now. do what you want though

>>107157209
That's sad to hear. I had a 1080 Ti that I loved for a long time.
>>107157224
Why do you think that is relevant to me? Why do I care about secondhand 4090 prices? I'm not paying that much for a GPU for gaming, and I'm not looking for a used GPU.

>>107157241
I'm explaining to you DRAM modules and NAND shoot up 172% on the last month and GPU's are about to be even more expensive so this is the cheapest a 5090 will be and any hardware that matches it will be even more expensive in the future, so it makes absolute no sense to not buy one if you can afford it, even if its to flip it and sell it later.

Why did they do it?

>>107157258
>inb4 you ask me how is it relevant
You asked if the 5080 made any sense, the 4090 is still the 2nd more powerful GPU and is not even close to a 5080, this anon already told you that >>107157209

>>107157040
I just FOMO'd my way into a 5070 Ti after carefully considering the 5080 FWIW.

>>107157267
Very topical edit.
https://youtu.be/PVEOoDUV96A?t=1060

>>107157277
I did same after carefully considering the 5070 FWIW

Oh well. I would have wasted that extra $250 on something else stupid anyway

>>107157267
didnt do much when you look at market share
obviously everyone agrees 5070 could use more memory, 8gb is impossible to rec to most gamers
5070 ti being sold at msrp at launch would be neat
5080 is poor value compared to msrp 5070 ti
and everyone loves 5090

>>107157288
kek he knows exactly who he was talking about lmao

>brother's old computer somehow shorted out his RTX 4070, probably due to his pets fucking up his old surge protector power strip
>so he bought and made an entire new computer with a 9800X3D CPU and an RTX 5070 Ti because he wanted the excuse to do so
>he'll be handing me his old comp but with an RTX 2080 Ti (the EVGA FTW model) in it
I still gotta ask what CPU and other stuff is in there, it'll be an upgrade from my old shit but something tells me there's some retarded catch involved or it's inherently unstable..

why is every used "high end gaming pc" a mid range from 5+ years ago

>>107157338
If he boughted the 9800X3D it was purely because he was getting fomo or made fun of in discord

>>107157258
I'm not interested in flipping GPUs either.
>>107157274
I asked about the 5080. I didn't say anything about any xx90 GPU.

$1500 is mid range now

>>107157321
>8gb is impossible to rec to most gamers
Only because an 8 GB card isn't foolproof

>obviously everyone agrees 5070 could use more memory
It'll be weaker than the PS6, so no it doesn't need more memory. That's like saying, "Everyone agrees the 5070 could have been faster." No shit? Everyone wishes the 5070 was a 5090 for $199 at 50 W, so what

>>107157401
>It'll be weaker than the PS6
Haven't they already hinted that the ps6 won't be much faster than the pro if you just go by raster?

>>107157401
vram amount isnt tied to the raster perf of the chip
you can just ask 3rd parties to make you some vram chips and stick them into a gpu and so on

it's getting hard to wait for even black friday when every ram kit is literally selling out and when it comes back in stock the price has increased shitloads again

64GB is just totally ridiculous right now. It's like when DDR5 first launched.

>>107157398
>RTX 5090 is too expensive.
You started your post with that and i'm trying to argue that at current prices the 5090 is actually cheap and the 5080 and 5080 super are actually bad value, as i said do what you want

>>107157432
>is 5080 good value?
>no, buy this other GPU that's 3x the price
>but I don't want to spend that much
>I'm telling you, you need to buy this other GPU, it's only going to get more expensive
Do you understand why I think you're retarded?

>>107157413
Yes, it'll be around ps5 pro in terms of raster but it'll have dedicated Raytracing and matrix accelerators so you'll run the PSR equivalent to fsr4

>>107157456
No, actually no, all i see is some retard that wasnt honest when i asked him if he could afford a 5090.

>>107157399
I want to go back.

Is 96GB of 4800MHz DDR5 for $200 a deal too good to pass up right now? I don't really need that much and it is pretty slow but, that is a lot of ram and I can only find 32GB 5600 for $200 right now

>>107157480
Do you understand the difference between being able to afford something and wanting to spend the money on something?
Do you understand that not everyone wants to find side hustles and shit all the time?
Do you understand that for some people, gaming is a casual hobby, and their gaming PC is just a means to engage in that casual hobby, so it doesn't make sense to spend three times as much for the most expensive component, even if it's a somewhat better value?

Is that you, Jensen? Do you really have time to come to /g/ and shitpost?

>>107157385
FOMO, but he also bought top end shit across the board, 48x2GB of RAM, 4TB NVME, an X870 ROG Strix Extreme board, even a damn Commander for fans and RGB. Retard isn't money-wise, his computer wasn't giving him top of the line performance before so he just blew most of his earnings to impulse that shit in. At that point I'm shocked he only stopped at a 5070 Ti.

>>107157267
>>107157288
>>107157332
I only watch 2 cents guy. What's happening?

>>107157507
oh wait it's not 4800 it's 6800

>>107157413
Rasterization is essentially irrelevant at this point. Rasterization has hit the point of massively diminishing returns. ML reconstruction and RT are what matter going forward. PS6 will have graphics on par with a lower midrange RDNA5 GPU, which are being made on a new node so expect substantially better than 9700 XT in raw performance.

>>107157518
Sure, you can afford a 5090, are you happy now? do what you want retard

Xiaomi G Pro 27i

250 bucks, is it usable outside of local dimming on mode, meaning SDR?

Without local dimming a good IPS monitor would just cost as much.

with ram prices being the way they are, what sort of speeds/timings should I be looking at for an x3d cpu? 6000 cl30 is insane right now

>>107157603
I read some post somewhere saying x3d isnt as sensitive to ram timings
I got 6000 cl36 for 125€ so that better be fine

>>107156082
and then after path tracing came out we realized jensen was right all along

SPD Latency and Tested Latency what's the difference?

>>107157788
Path tracing is rather tragic with how you kinda need a 4090 to do the thing at high fps for actually pleasurable gaming
It'd be fine if we got node advancements like in the 2010's but things kinda ground to a halt at 3080 release

>>107157559
It's solid but you have other options.
With IPS, some monitors have good motion reduction (it's satisfying on 4chan porn generals where I use the middle mouse button to scroll, and some high end models have MBR with VRR).
VA has good contrast, objectively IPS has better motion clarity, but if you just spend all your time in the dark + dark content, VA is more punchy (but bad viewing angles). So you might prefer the AOC miniled (there are 2 models, the old 300 zone one with VRR flicker and the 1000 zone one with fixed vrr flicker but with a worse stand)
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/q27g40xmn
Then you have $500 woled monitors incoming (but I bet the pixel orientation probably won't be RGWB, which is annoying for reading text, but it's probably the only viable upgrade that will make you go WOW, mini-led is better, but there are a few situations where people leave it off).

>>107157819
The real tragedy is that they only give a shit about the 90 cards now. You can tell that they used 80s in their own machines back in the day, but now do 90s. Shit, I heard that they sent out 3090s company-wide as a year-end bonus.

>>107157603
Get 6400cl32, 7200cl34, 7600cl36 or 8000cl38 and manually set it to 6000cl30
Or alternatively, look for 6000cl26, 6000cl28 or 6000cl32 kits

>tfw the 6070 ti is a good enough pt card
>mfw i have no face

okay. now how is my build?

>>107157960
>ram costs 50% of the gpu
lmao

>>107157960
fuck I forgot a psu

>>107157861
I miss the time when the x60 cards also shared the biggest core of the generation with the x80 cards.
Now even the x90 cards don't even have the biggest core (or not all cores unlocked), they only allow AI farms to use these.

>>107157040
Not related to the other anons.
But, I'll say as much as this.

>Is the 5080 a significant enough upgrade to justify the cost
No. It's a bad value for money card.
>I want a (At most) 20% performance boost, and I'm okay paying 200-300 for it.
Buy a 5080.

It's not a good value for money. But, if you want a performance boost over a 5070Ti, for whatever reason, what the fuck else are you going to do? You can't SLI or Crossfire any more. You can't buy half a 5090. So, that's your option.
It's kinda lame. But, it's what it is.

>>107158002
I'm really waiting for an option like what we used to have, where I can pay $500-$1k and get a ~40-50% or more performance increase with a few new features. I guess I'll have to wait another generation or two. Sucks that Nvidia seems to have ruined the xx80 cards.

>>107154326 (OP)
What about ultra wide monitors? I want to switch from 2x 1440p 27" 16:9, to 1x 34" 3440x1440p, OLED.

Because of GPU high idle power draw, cleaner setup, movies, power draw in general, anti adhd/brainrot.

I'm just afaid of black bars and lower gaymen performance. But I actually like virtual desktops, splitting windows, this is so good on loonix with KDE and GNOME

Fuck, bros. I made an AM4 2600X build in early 2019, switched to 5800X3D couple (three?) years ago. I might seriously be riding this mobo for the full ten years.

>>107157040
Wait for the PS6 Release, you will be able to play your Triple A slop just fine. Or get the best sloppa app - LSFG

>>107158064
Why? It's gonna cost $1000 and the (digital only) games will cost $100

>>107155555
fucking checked

>>107158002
>You can't buy half a 5090
The 5070 is approximately half the 5090, for less than a quarter of the price.

>>107158064
I'd rather jump in a concrete mixer full of broken glass and salt than buy a console.

>>107157972
do not buy the cheapest piece of shit PSU possible

>>107158077
I mean that anon should keep his 6900 xt till the next console gen is out and then buy new PC hardware, to have a baseline what Games will run on for the next years, because a 6900 xt on 1440p is still good and stronger than a gaystation

>>107158095
gonna grab a seasonic

>>107158085
come on that's 1440p the 5090 is bottlenecked heavily while the 5070 is killing itself

I regret only getting 32GB of RAM bros

I need to upgrade mobo to AMD R9700 and new CPU, and I'm going to get cucked by RAM prices.

>>107158148
don't say that anon you're going to make me panic buy $400 of ram that was $200 6 weeks ago

>>107154372
I just bought chat no more waitfagging

>>107154751
Keep in mind that an ITX case will probably be more expensive and might require a different PSU.

>>107158077
PC's and GPU's are gonna cost way more than consoles by then, a 6060 will cost $1k the way prices are going

>>107158002
>>107157040
5070 Ti is the only Nvidia card worth a damn this generation. 5090 wouldn't have sold a single unit if they'd continued offering the 4090 at MSRP, 5080 and 5070 don't have enough VRAM, and everything below the 5070 is IGP-tier garbage.

>>107158343
The 5070 is good at $500

>>107158387
A paperweight is not worth $500.

>>107158387
That anon is retarded, considering what you can get in the current market blackwell is pretty good just underclocked all blackwell gpus outside the 5090 can be pushed up and get from 7% up to 15% real performance uplift https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sEWLRKPDwA

>>107158460
Tech youtubers have really aged in the 10 years I haven't been paying attention to them.

>>107158026
xx80 branding is too powerful. The 5080 has a bigger install base than the 5070ti on steam
>>107158491
They didn't touch grass

>>107158505
>The 5080 has a bigger install base than the 5070ti on steam
that cannot be true

>>107158505
>>107158546
It was in June/July but the 5070ti have since surpassed the 5080 by a bit

I haven't built a computer in at least 10 years. Something like this should last me another 10 years, right? I don't know jackshit about new GPUs but at least I don't do any PC gaming, just Photoshop work. Prices these days are killing me though.

>>107158626
Intel/Nvidia are better for Adobe software

>>107158626
If you are not gaming you could look into the b580, it has more vram (12gb) and it sometimes significantly cheaper, you could also get away with a 650 W PSU and a hgiher latency on the rams like 5600, CL 36

>>107158626
>just Photoshop work
And so what is your GPU from your previous build? 2D image editing even at absurd res isn't THAT harsh of a job to need a 9060 XT. Of course, better is always a guarantee against you changing your mind one day and using it for games.

upgrade an am4 rig, or buy an am5 rig?

>>107158706
what do you have now

>>107158626
well you've built a 1080p gaming pc that's good for only gaming.

the meshify 3 not having any bottom cable cutouts in the psu shroud is beyond retarded

what speed is on ram names/packaging is it the SPD Speed or the Supported Speed?

>>107158460
There's no point OCing the 5080 when you can OC the 5070 Ti as well and they'll both ultimately be limited by VRAM, and there's no sense in buying the 5070 non-Ti at all when 16 GB is the minimum for playing anything with any amount of eye candy. If you're just going to play LoL or CS or whatever other esports shit you don't need anything close to that powerful.

>>107158815
the box is usually generic. the sticker/engraving tells you everything just like cpu.

>>107158815
Yes
>Serial Presence Detect chip found on modern RAM modules, which stores data about the memory's specifications like speed

>>107158815
The XMP/EXPO overclocked speed is usually the advertised memory speed, SPD is JEDEC spec speed/timing/voltage

>>107158907
XMP/EXPO is stored in SPD chip.

>>107154372
Have waitfags ever been this BTFO before?

>>107158815
The advertised xmp/expo speed usually
The SPD/jedec/default speed and timings aren't usually advertised and are only sometimes found in product whitepapers

>>107158937
True waitfag never gets scammed, because he never buys.

>>107158910
Doesn't mean shit in this case.
SPD is just the default on a cleared CMOS. Tested is XMP/Expo

Talking about SPD and tested speed is terms from way back in the day when XMP didn't exist. It's just old terminology being used for some reason.

Will the 9060 xt handle 1440p decently?

I am once again asking for suggestions on AM5 boards. I see some deals on x670e models, I like that they offer dual chipsets and dont force usb4 support. I want good VRMs and 3x gen4x4 m.2s that arnt shared with the pciex16 slot. I would really appreciate any suggestions for a solid AM5 board.
Also, I was set on the 9070xt, but seeing the 5070ti performance has me considering it. Are missing rops still an issue? Are 12vhpwr connectors still burning up cards? any major considerations I should take into account for the 5070ti vs 9070xt?
Although I dont have an AM5 board picked out, I feel compelled to get my RAM ordered asap due to price hikes. though im worried about getting a kit that wont end up on the QVL list of whatever board I end up with, should I wait?
sorry for the blogpost and ty kind anons for any help you can give :D

>>107158965
Not at any high/maxed settings

>>107158881
That shit got debunked years ago, outside of path traced indiana jones no game has target over 12 GB of vram even at 4k, maybe amd cards run into issues but nvidia has a shitton of 12gb VRAM and not one of them run out of into issues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPABpqfb7xg

>>107158965
If 60 FPS is your minimum target and you're using using FSR or XESS for more demanding games, some times and variably on settings. UE5 games are gonna eat your ass at 1440p for sub-60 unless they're relatively optimized. You're not gonna be maxing the latest and hottest demands by any means. If you're mostly playing modern competitive stuff (CS2, Valorant, Fortnite, Finals, etc), then yeah, you'll be fine, especially if you're someone tuning down settings to begin with, so a 16GB model is actually a really good budget buy. But if you're wanting to crank settings that aren't raytracing, a 9070 minimum is your better bet.

>>107158999
shittong of 12gb vram cards*

>>107158965
It's better than PS5s gpu

>>107158999
mhwilds with high res texture pack?

>>107159012
See it for yourselff, it does not got over 12 and that allocated vram https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GusSmpkyB0k

>>107159019
This trash needs to be patched anyway.
Lowering Indiana Jones' texture pool has no discernible image quality difference as well (left: low, right: supreme).

>>107159041
Also think about this, it make 0 sense for devs to push for more vram when most people are on shit like the 3080/4070/4070 super/5070 /4070 ti even when new consoles are out there gonna be a period of cross gen in which games will target the ps5 pro for another 2 years.

>>107159058
You give devs too much credit. They optimize on console and do not give a shit about PC. Just look at Borderlands 4 where the dev is telling you just restart because of the memory leaks or buy a 5090 to play at 4K with upscaling. Only when the game is released and sales are low do they think something went wrong.

Man next gen GPUs need to come out already. Need something better than 5080 without paying 5090 pricing.

>>107159152
The 4090 was pretty next-gen by that definition

>>107159159
If only they didn't discontinue it so fast. It's also not getting any cheaper.

>>107159119
Borderlands 4 still doesn't go over 12 GB on nvidia cards even at 4k max settings, at best it'll show allocated vram over 12 on cards that have 16 GB
>>107159152
They'll release on the middle of a DRAM shortage, prices are gonna be stupid like in the crytpo craze

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>>107158999
>>107159019
>b-but my favorite youtuber said...
Or you could just load up a game and see for yourself that they DO in fact use more than 12GB of VRAM. You didn't get conned into buying an obsolete card, did you?

>>107159218
allocated doesn't mean it actually needs all that memory. Cyberpunk for example doesn't go over 12gb outside of dlaa 4k + pt + fg

>>107159227
Look at nvidia-smi, that's the actual memory usage. Things crash if the first number is bigger than the second number.

>>107159238
You are using more because you have more VRAM allocated, 5070's dont crash

>>107159244
No, they just have to deal with textures popping as they're loaded and unloaded from VRAM. Also I can tell you that 16GB is definitely not enough to play BF6 while running Nvidia Broadcast.

>>107159272
They do not, you are just an enormous retard that probably doesnt even that you could have solve the issue by having any 4gb vram card on your 2nd pci express port Nvidia broadcast and the desktop reserved memory does not eat into your 5070 TI you tech liliterate mongoloid

>>107159278
running nvidia broadcast and the desktop reserved memory so it does not eat into your 5070 ti*

>>107159278
>It's not actually using the extra memory it uses and you can run Broadcast on any card
Literal 60 IQ retard.

>>107159119
>Borderlands 4 sales miss was solely due to performance issues
Nah. I was a huge fan of the series but 3 put an end to that. Season pass 2, fuck outta here with that shit.

>>107159291
Once again, you dont understand what you are talking about, there is no popping there and if you need to run anything on the background you are better having a 2nd GPU regardless of how many vram do you have

>>107159301
Once again, you're typing without thinking. WHY does it allocate more memory if you have more memory available? WHY do you think I'm not running Broadcast on the second GPU that you can see at a glance that I have?

>>107159311
>WHY does it allocate more memory if you have more memory available?
Because it has a dynamic allocation algorithm which doesn't run the same compression to lower power consumption
WHY do you think I'm not running Broadcast on the second GPU that you can see at a glance that I have?
Because you were complaining about the specific case in which you run out of vram if you use nvidia broadcast while running bf6

>>107159320
>Because it has a dynamic allocation algorithm which doesn't run the same compression to lower power consumption
So by using less VRAM the GPU draws more power? And yet my GPU is already running at ~96%. So by using less VRAM, more GPU cycles are allocated to compression and away from rendering? I'm already only getting about 50 FPS from my modded CP77, how much worse will it get if a quarter of the memory disappears?
>Because you were complaining about the specific case in which you run out of vram if you use nvidia broadcast while running bf6
Yes, this is true. Why am I not running either of those programs on my second GPU?

>>107159356
>So by using less VRAM the GPU draws more power?
It has to do with virtual memory management Your modules just like regular ram are divided in channels and the information happen in cycles, Because you have more channels avaliable your gpu will waste more cycles rather than run the compression the 5070 does thats how dynamic vram allocations works

>>107159375
This does not affect performance though, but i already establish that you are way too retard to even think you could be wrong