Thread 107157081

The community around Ruby and Rails seem relatively Pajeet-free compared to PHP, Java, and especially anything Python or JS/TS related. How did they pull it off?

An idiot admires complexity, a genius admires simplicity.

>>107157081 (OP)
White Supremacy

>>107157460
By that measure PHP should be Jeet-free because it’s as simple as it gets. Yet it’s Jeet to the core.

>>107157081 (OP)
it requires skill

>>107157081 (OP)
Jeets only care about money, which means there is no money to speak of

>>107157610
Ruby pays well compared to everything but the most niche of languges though.

>>107157081 (OP)
it's only used by developers who've grown to love it in the early rails era when the alternative was writing AbstractAnnotationConfigDispatcherServletInitializer 20 times in a row or 3000 PHP files nobody can maintain
nowadays nobody new learns it because it was functionally overtaken by python (unfortunate, ruby would've had a lot more advantages in the scripting side of things) and the other 2000 webshit frameworks
since pajeets didn't get into IT until it became very widespread and everyone started chanting 'IT IS THE FUTURE' brainlessly, they completely missed out on the portion of the web where writing maintainable services was borderline impossible except if your team used rails, thus, they never even heard of ruby

>>107158357
>unfortunate, ruby would've had a lot more advantages in the scripting side of things
I see this thrown around a lot but don’t have the experience to understand why. What’s your opinion?

>>107157081 (OP)
>How did they pull it off?
By stagnating since before pajeets flooded tech

>>107157798
this made me think about installing omarchy but it needs full disk encryption
t. native bong

>>107158357
it was overtaken by node, not python. having the same language for front and backend has a lot of advantages.
>>107158398
not op, but i think that ruby is just a much better, simpler language than python. from scripting side, it has perlisms that make it really easy to do simple scripting.

>>107158398
python is a total shitshow for scripting and doesn't deserve it's position. the syntax is clunky, allows zero programmer creativity, and quite franky very inconsistent.
ruby on the other hand can be used as a complete replacement for bash, a simple example being:
`ls`.split #=> ["Applications", "Desktop", ...]
it also has a very rich stdlib comparable to haskell
the only downside is it's quite slow, but yjit is helping with that nowadays
if you wanna experience it first-hand, try writing scripts or simpler apps in ruby and you'll instantly spot the difference in the developer experience

>>107158430
ruby was overtaken by python
rails was overtaken by node and web frameworks

>>107157081 (OP)
It requires English fluency.

>>107157798
>the truth triggers people
FUCK EM

>>107159099
It’s a chinaman language though

>>107157081 (OP)
Ruby is comfy. It's blend of OOP and FP hits a sweet spot that no others do quite as well.
Rails is meh. Very powerful, not bad, but it really depends on the team and how they use it. You can write a mess in Ruby, just like any language, but I don't see it as better or worse than most other languages with similar paradigms. Rails on the other hand... it depends how old the project is IMO.

The true multicore actor system is approaching maturity, and If they can improve their gradual typing features (talks at the implementers conference give me hope), I think it will continue to be great for many years to come.

Rails was the original hipster retard friendly non-cs-grad way to build webapps. That’s it. Then nodeJS became the way to do it instead.

>>107159573
Chinese language would be too complicated to use with computers for coding they know it but are too afraid to say it out loud unless they did their retarded Pinyin route instead. They already bastardized prompting language with AI making it only work with Chinese idioms and ways of marking things that are not based on western methods for doing so, thus the average LLM will even fail at the most rudimentary task of what an user meant by 1-20, its not that difficult to make an LLM understand its the same as 1 through 20 and not subtraction, 1:20 is dividing 1 by 20 but they think its 1 to 20 because of chinaman knowing excel and not natural English notation, for mathematics, most LLM also understand big numbers only if you write them out with their retarded $xxx'xxx'xxx.xxx markings. Honestly Chinese aren't smart if their LLMs are anything to go by.

>>107160553
>>107159936
>>107157081 (OP)
I'll admit Rails is better than django or flask but ruby as a language died to python because of data science (and AI).

Ruby is just a much better language to read than python, but the learn2code crowd wanted an absolute brain dead language (python).

Every large open source python project I've used eventually gets rewritten in a better language.

>>107157594
nowadays jeets use javascript and c#