Thread 107189115

how many people will buy it just to have a good linux mac studio?

>>107189115 (OP)
i don't even know nor care about what that thing is.
imagine buying a pc instead of building it.

>>107189115 (OP)
>how many people will buy it?
looks like the target audience are trans couples
i doubt valve will turn a profit on this thing

>>107189115 (OP)
i'm not buying shit you tranny. go cut your dick off again.

>>107189115 (OP)
>just to have a good linux mac studio
Hopefully nobody, they'd be very disappointed. Mac Studios are high end gear. The new steam thing is weaker than a Series X.

>>107189268
>dem reaction shots

>>107189277
>Mac Studios are high end gear.
shame you have to have gay sex to own one.

>>107189268
>>107189284
oh and it's for female black streamers too
dead on arrival

@grok what is a steam machine?

i just hope it somehow pressures these spyware game companies to unblock linux. one can dream

>>107189115 (OP)
It can’t run Adobe or other paid services. The thing is another toy, just like Steam Deck. There is nothing that makes this machine better than current PC gaming machines.

>>107189333
Server sided AI anti cheat

>>107189115 (OP)
I'm a GNOME-on-Debian guy.
What's appealing about KDE-on-Arch? I assume SteamOS isn't likely to be as randomly breaky as stock Arch unless I do something weird

>>107189268
>linux machine
so they marketed it correctly

>>107189272
imagine being so mindbroken you look at a square and think of troons

>>107189115 (OP)
You'd have to be a complete retard to buy this thinking it's a good "mac studio". I never realized steamdrones were just as delusional and stupid as applefags but now it's clear why steamdrones are so rabid

>>107189368
see: >>107189268

>>107189115 (OP)
Does it produce steam?

>>107189268
fits linux users

it's kind of a middle finger to people who bought a steam deck. But those manchildren will just buy the machine too and pretend the deck still has a use case.
Honestly brilliant move by Valve. They've understood how retarded gamers are much better than microshit. Crazy how much you can milk people despite inflation

>8GB VRAM
>RDNA 3
lol
lmao
https://youtu.be/TAfBDMZo86s?t=954

>>107189371
I haven't paid close attention to video card specs since the Voodoo 2. What are the newest games that will get a rock-solid 60 FPS at 1080p on this thing?

>>107189115 (OP)
Well all the windows 10 machines are basically steam machines now

>>107189115 (OP)
I can't wait for people to buy this and Frame, try to run a PCVR game, then cry that it runs like dogshit on a 4k VR headset on a PC that has a Ryzen 7600 and an RX 7400.
If it had equivalent of a Ryzen 9600 + RX 9060 (preferably the 16 GB version) then I could see myself recommending it to normies.

I can't see it becoming popular unless it's competitively priced for it's specs, it doesn't have the selling points of the steam deck, this is just a prebuilt PC, artsy types are still gonna stick with mac and any gaymer willing to drop major money on a PC is going to get either a generic prebuilt or build their own.
what interests me way more are the frame goggles. they've got the streaming but are actually a whole pc themselves with steam os built in. what I wanna know is if this means a true non-walled garden or headset, am I gonna be able to install whatever distro of choice I want on it and for it to still work, or to use them as a monitor strapped to my face as for my actual pc without having to send telemetry data everywhere? In my perfect world these goggles would just be plug and play the same way you get generic keyboard and mouse drivers, I want my neuromancer comfy rig built into a recliner

>how many people will buy it

i guarantee you there is a market

>>107189475
>but are actually a whole pc themselves with steam os built in
Don't hold your horses, unlike the Deck that has an AMD CPU, this one has a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, a 3 generation old smartphone CPU, without any hardware x86-to-ARM translation like Apple M series. Any PC game is going to run like dogshit on it.

>>107189406
No it's not. Everyone knows Steam Deck 2 is coming and will be more powerful than this box. Most steam decks just ended up docked or gathering dust anyway. They just found out this is actually what they wanted.

>>107189406
>>107189502
The Deck and Gabecube can coexist, but the cube would have to be actually more powerful for it to make sense.

>>107189346
>I'm a GNOME-on-Debian guy.
Disgusting, we only use TWM's on Arch. SteamOS is the exception, tho.

>>107189268
>>107189298
This is what (((Mary))) looks like?
Steam is fucked if Gaben doesn't pull a stalin in his ranks
Thank god/allah GOG and JAST exists
>>107189371
>6 cores
I had that in 2013...

>>107189268
You'd think companies would learn that troons are revolting to look at and should be avoided at all costs. I didn't plan on buying their little box, now I for sure have no plans.

>>107189345
I dream of the day

>>107189371
Cpu is like gimped 8th gen intel.
Didn't they read the memo about how incompetent devs are and how most games these days are also strangling the cpu?

>>107189412
>solid 60FPS on 1080 and 1440+FSR
what's the issue

Neat

>>107189268
everyone forgets Valve works with Sweet Baby Inc too

>>107189115 (OP)
Will 2026 finally be the year of the Linux desktop?

>>107189549
The dyke looks worse

>>107189115 (OP)
More like slop machine amirite

So it’s weaker then a base ps5
lol

>2230

WAT

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

I CAN'T PUT AN 4TB 2280 IN THERE WHY

>>107189661
Oh wait you can add a 2280 nvm

>>107189611
*Flop

>>107189481
We must be better men

>>107189268
>looks like the target audience are trans couples
It is a Linux desktop

>>107189268
>i doubt valve will turn a profit on this thing
Have they ever turned a profit on any of their hardware? The steam deck was sold at a loss because they have a huge fuckoff games store-front that prints money for them.

>>107189599
Yup. _Very_ tempted, especially if it doesn't glow all the time.

>>107189502
I still use my steam deck and I've had mine for about 2 or 3 years

>>107189661
Alright, time to get the lowest model, just like with the deck and upgrade your SSD. At least 2280 this time

>>107189268
>i doubt valve will turn a profit on this thing
They never have, yet they still do it. This is their second shot at the Steam Machine gimmick, now just branded as a standalone Linux computer, which is perfect for stupid trannies.

>>107189371
>those specs
It’s over before it even began.

>>107189406
>But those manchildren will just buy the machine
>>107189502
>Most steam decks just ended up docked or gathering dust anyway
You guys are right, I loved to tinker with it, set up emulation etc. And same with the steam machine, I really don't need it, my PC is better and already running Linux, but I will buy it, tinker with it and connect it to my TV.
I hate that you guys called me out, but how can you tell?

>>107189420
If we talk native then it would be the same amount as the 5090 would get

>>107189585
>most games these days are also strangling the cpu
I love having CPU utilization at 15% and GPU utilization at 50% and still get 25-50fps
It's like giving a spaceship to a fish.
We should only produce CPU's with 6 cores and 12 threads capped at 3GHz until developers learn how to write code.

>>107189496
they have literally shown half life alyx running on them perfectly

>>107189268
they target people who do't ever play video games

>>107189599
>>107189794
that's one of the engineer's personal projects, it's not gonna be for sale
everyone wanted one

>>107189198
All depends on economies of scale. Hardware prices are going up and both speculators and scammers are making huge profits. Building your own PC is no longer what it used to be.
That opens an opportunity for Valve to take a huge chunk of the PC hardware manufacturing and sales.

>>107189268
post link to the actual commerical faggot. Otherwise, fake and gay.

>>107189268
Complete overlap with the Loonix audience

>>107190148
it's directly from their page you fucking retard
the page in question: store,steampowered,com/sale/steammachine
directly from their cdn: clan,akamai,steamstatic,com/images/clan/45479024/adb4828c2175c54381eb19c1e7e511ec,webm

>>107190146
fair enough, my current build was made 8 years ago for around 2k (added a 4090 later), i'm making a new build this december and the cost is around 5K (without the gpu as i'm reusing my 4090).

though i do buy higher quality stuff than a i did 7 years ago but still, 5k without the gpu, what a fucking kek i'll spend more than 1K on just ram.

>>107189115 (OP)
If you can't tell what it does by just looking at it, then it's garbage and no one should buy it.

>>107189997
The PS5 has an 8 core zen 2 CPU that’s usually in the 2ghz range while gaming

>>107189481
Jesus Christ have mercy, imagine not being able to have a desk and a computer in your house. I remember when most people had a family computer.

>>107189661
At least it's not 2 2242 slots like my Chinkpad.

>>107189420
DF have tried CP2077 in it and it got 60fps, but turning RT on dropped it to 30

>>107189298
>>107189268
You forgot the third one that has the punchline.
>white guy uses it to get work done
I'm glad Valve sorted out multi-monitor too. This makes it better than a Mac studio by default.

>>107190208
>i'll spend more than 1K on just ram.
what the fuck you talking about. are you using server grade ecc memory or something? 256 gb per stick?

>>107190300
>white
that looks like a pajeet.

>>107190300
is that a jeet?

>>107189523
>>6 cores
>I had that in 2013...
Do you really need more than 12 threads for a gaymen machine?

>>107189406
Wtf do you mean a middle finger? People have been begging for a new steam machine for ages.

>>107190343
ryzen 5 and i5 pc's are fine, more cores are just useful, if you are building stuff or heavy multitasking... yea as you said: it's fine for gaymen. Especially in a low process enviornment like steam gamemode

>>107189661
If 2TB version costs $200 more, it's better just grabbing a cheap 1TB NvME on Black Friday and buying the cheaper option. 1TB is sufficient enough.

>>107189268
>ad is gays playing a game about demonic possession
wow. So this is the new unix workstation vendor.

>>107189585
>Cpu is like gimped 8th gen intel.
it's not at all, seems to be a power limited ryzen 7500f, you're thinking of ps5/xsx and their zen 2 cpu's
with the rx 7400 to rx 7600 gpu they're using it will be quite underutilized, guess that's why they went with a 35W TDP

>>107189835
it might be enough to play everything currently on steam at least on 1080p60 and low

>>107190300
cuck of the year lmao

>>107189406
the steam deck is almost 4 years old and a portable machine, this isn't competing with it at all

>>107190316
2*64GB sticks, i'll later buy another 2*64GB.

but 2*64GB high quality is above 1K.

yes i'm building a top specs am5 build, didn't realy wanted to go the threadripper route.

>>107190423
4 years later, you'd think Steam console would present with a far larger performance jump compared to a handheld than a mere x6. It should have been atleast x12 to cover the time span and different power budgets. The console uses 100W compared to Steam Deck that uses like 25W at most.

>>107189481
If my woman ever thought of saying no to me having my own room with PC in it, she would be reeducated immediately so in the future such lapse of judgement would not occur anymore.

>>107190457
yeah, this steam console is underwhelming at best, guess they went with the same route they did with the deck of "running" everything currently on steam at least on the lowest settings, but now even cheaper to manufacture

>>107190300
lmao boring ass nerdy white mothafucka

>>107189516
>pic
EWWWWWWW

>>107190490
It would have been fine for 400-500 bucks but Valve says it will cost more than consoles so you will pay a fairly high price for a very limited PC console. Especially if controller is a separate purchase.

>>107190602
>Valve says it will cost more than consoles
wew lad, should be a doa product but i'd guess it will sell

>>107189412
>only a single person has seethed about the 8 gb vram so far
/g/ is healing, good.
>>107189595
yeah literally what the fuck did he even mean by this

>>107189298
black bitches do be lovin dat stardew tho fr

After 9 years in development, we are proud to announce the Cleveland Steam Box. Hopefully it would have been worth the wait. Thanks and have fun.

>>107189481
>wife's living room aesthetics

>>107189516
That's DWM. TWM is literally twice as old.

>>107189268
kek

but, really,
anyone that bought any of these underpowered soon-to-be-e-waste bricks were already retarded to me

>>107190711
>bought
Good thing nobody has

>>107190622
We will see. Hopefully that means $500 ceiling and not $700. But like with Steam Deck, I might just wait for some chink company to make a stronger system for slightly more.

>>107190724
I was implying that anyone that even bought the ""800p"" "Steam Deck" was included in the retard club

>>107189470
>if it had a 20% faster CPU and a 20% faster GPU I could see myself recommending it
...k? I will never understand why people pretend the 9060 is such a huge leap over a 7600 which is almost half the price, and don't get me started on ryzen 9000, you're paying double for like a 10% gain lmao why
valve is attempting to make a cost efficient pc-console hybrid thingy, that just doesn't work when using the latest and greatest, just like it doesn't work for DIY, only retards buy latest gen hardware.

>>107190711
>underpowered
/g/ooners failing to realize that power is not the only important metric in a product seems to be a constant across this entire board

>>107190799
to be fair when you own a full desktop, power is the only metric you really care about

>>107190069
>a 5 year old game
Cool

>>107190799
what other metrics
soldered locked down shit?
portable so you can bring it to your transgender friend's house?
price point to corral you into some cuckbox like consoles?

>>107190069
Are you sure it wasn't streamed from a PC?

>>107190756
Retard

>>107189595
>fsr
I'm gonna vomit
>>107190651
>t. amd jew

>>107190651
8 gb vram is the least of it's issues with 28 CUs

>>107190756
>9060 is such a huge leap over a 7600
Too bad the cube has a 7400, not a 7600

>>107189333
The worst part is, denovo and similar platforms all have specific builds that work through steam proton, and a good chunk of these companies just don't use them.

>>107190825
I don't really care about the power level of the gabe cube precisely because I already have a dedicated gaming desktop. For a secondary machine it's perfectly fine.

>>107190846
>what other metrics
size
noise
complexity, so kids can use it without fucking anything up

I'd be interested in one as a server but RAM probably soldered unfortunately

>>107189268
how are all of you this brainless? They are clearly identical twins

>>107190909
It's a 7600, just not 7600XT right?

>>107191069
It's not, either DF or GN showed that it's replacable

>>107191105
7400 with much higher TDP so higher clocks, might be around a 5700XT

>>107189115 (OP)
Nice design.

>>107190300
>I'm glad Valve sorted out multi-monitor too.
too bad there is only 1 dp and 1 hdmi port on the back

>>107189298
She's kinda cute; I'm fine with this.
>>107189268
What in the name of fuck?

>>107189268
They don't call it troonix for nothing.

>>107191271
BRO THiS IS WHAT IM THINKING WHEN SEEING THIS

They already made a breakthrough with the steam deck, it’s a truly portable pc unlike a laptop. I don’t get why their next product is basically just an oversized mini PC

>>107190452
>high quality ram

>>107190956
This. New World used EAC and works on Linux, I think Elden Ring also

>>107189481
I must not condone domestic violence

>>107189835
It depends on the price.

>>107189115 (OP)
I will buy the whole kit of steam hardware out of spite for FAGMAN. I'm very tired of jeet-made software and hardware from apple, google and microcock.
And if it helps pushing Linux to a bigger marketshare then even better.

>>107191669
I'm pretty sure you can't get away from Jeet-made software in the year 2025. Steam won't be the exception

>>107191669
valve is beholden to the FAGMAN and upholds the same FAGMAN policies
watch this "steam machine" nonsense manufacture consent for microsoft and google to push out Win10 support

>>107189371
its going to be $700 starting?

Should have made steam deck 2 instead. I don't have interest in anything they announced today. VR goggles, steam machines, shitty controllers, all products that valve already made in the past and they all failed horribly.

>>107191786
ive wanted a steam controller 2.0 since the deck launched. the only reason it failed before was because it was patent trolled out of existence

I guess this is all about getting the games away from windows shit. But I will still have to keep using it cause no way japs ever switch.

>>107189115 (OP)
>6 cores
>16gb ram
>rnda3
>8gb vram
actually doa

>>107189371
Indeed, it obviously is not meant to compete with a mac studio.

>>107191786
>>107189585
>>107189406
The next Steam Deck is coming. But what they're doing is setting standards and convenience, the Steam Deck did influence on game optimization. While Sony and Xbox have been releasing some franchises into PC and considering becoming more open, this might be the push they needed.
Nintendo might be next. Valve is the Red Hat of gaming.

>>107189346
They chose Arch because Valve kinda do a lot of scrum-like development where they need to always have upstream packages and dependencies, specially with GPU stack. They chose Arch, but when they got frustrated with Arch infrastructure (their signing package server was so shit developers signed packages on their own pcs), they gave a top server for such purpose and started working with Arch.

>>107189268
It's about gaining market share to keep gaining profit selling game licenses and renting game servers to game publishers (steamworks). All while setting industry standards and keep diversifying.

You will pay $599 for a 7600M with 110W TGP and a 6 core Zen 4 chip soldered onto the motherboard.
You will thank us for it.
[spoiler]It's unironically less performant than a 5 year old PS5 that it seeks to compete with [/spoiler]

>>107189371
>30w CPU
>110w GPU
These power efficient rigs are match for poorfags like me.

>>107191519
more like high quality build, most people don't go for 264GB of ram nor have a need for it.

also, 1400 bucks is higher end price for non ecc 2x64GB ddr5.

>>107189371
the 2 terabyte model will cost 900$ + tip and be underpowered as fuck

>>107189502
>Steam Deck 2 is coming
probably
>and will be more powerful than this box
LOL

>>107191824
Good for dota

>>107189420
Lots of games commonly played on console do really well on 1080p and 1440p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkwkNJMZsXs

>>107192287
its advertized as 4k 60 lol

>>107190458
I don't think fleshlights can talk.

>>107189115 (OP)
>AMD 6-core Zen 4 x86, up to 4.8GHz, 30W TDP
>Semi-custom AMD RDNA 3 28CU (8GB GDDR6, 2.45GHz max sustained clock, 110W TDP)
vs
>AMD 8-core Zen 2 x86, up to 3.5GHz 45-60W TDP
>Custom AMD RDNA 2 36CU (Unified 16 GB GDDR6, 448 GB/s bandwidth 140W TDP)

CHOOSE CONSOLE GAMERS

>>107189298
Wtf kinda racial combination is this thing? Looks a little black, latin, mognolian, native american, fucking everything

>>107190375
>>107190747
>>107190602
>>107190622
can you build it cheaper?

>>107192444
>8GB
whoops

>>107189385
The name would suggest it.... Probably have to add your own water.

>>107189115 (OP)
IMO this will work out better for you.

>>107192451
>>107192444
highest iq steamnigger shill
holy fuck youi faggots need bullet

>>107192451
For every obvious reasons valve technically procures all the hardware they need in a way that allows them to build it far cheaper.
You buy a GPU. Valve buys the chips for the GPU.
Plus it's smaller and uses overall less metal.

>>107192486
Forgot to mention this Jeetwork PC is 3x the cost though/

>>107189115 (OP)
will plaster this at the front panel.

>>107192518
I don't know what the cost of the Steam Machine is...
OP said Mac Studio so I am comparing it to the Mac Studio

>>107189481
more like cuck closet

>>107189115 (OP)
It really depends on the price. I saw some people speculating around 400$ for base model but that's too pretty to be true.
Still, it's a nifty prebuild PC with preinstalled Steam environment, but is not locked into it. The glimpse into insides we got shows that there may be some option for customization and we even saw e-ink "personal project" front panel screen of one of the developers so probably Valve is planning to cash-in on third party custom parts producers.

I'm mildly positive about this thing but it really depends on the price and actual details.

>>107192536
Gabecube

>>107192536
>>107192526

>>107192526
>>107192536
>>107192539
>>107192543

>>107192538
Honestly i expect a painful pricepoint between the base PS5 and PS5 Pro for the 512GB SKU

>>107189470
>Ryzen 7600
7600 is 65W
the steam machine cpu is 30W, it has some lower power -U laptop garbage inside

>>107192528
Holy fuck lmao, the Steam Machine will not be that expensive brother.
100000% chance it will be <$600 as it has to compete with PS5 & Xbox.

>>107192551
Gabe stares at you
As Steam drains your wallet

I am going buy it and put artix on it instead of steamos. a small form factor pc with enough power for lightweight games that can sit on my desk without it looking ugly is very appealing

>>107189481
kek I read that as "gooning room"

>>107189268
>linux

>>107189268
>one of them can't even pretend that he's having fun
they really like being off-putting as possible, don't they?

>>107191271
why can't dumb assies balance?

>>107192432
It's American, hooah

>>107189298
>>107189268
TO BE FAIR
every tech shit, consoles and new products in genral have nigs and queers plastered on their ads, Valve is an Zog company after all.

>>107192558
RAM prices are what scare me actually.
>>107189115 (OP)
I made a estimation looking at various other Zen4 Minisforums PCs

Things to keep into account:
- OEMs Include the windows license.
- This was the price when this device was new.

I think It's entirely possible for them to sell it near $500

>>107192614
Supposedly these mini PCs have terrible lifespans and usually shit the bed within a year probably from them all having inadequate cooling, which it looks like the SteamyBox has seeing as the size of the fuck huge heatsink.

>>107192614
- OEMs include windows license
- Zen 4 is now considered "old"
- This chip is more powerful than the one included in the steam machine
- Valve can make the profit margins razor thin due to Steam.

It's actually entirely possible this thing is _lower than $500_

>>107192652
this.
Hell, it could be lower than the Steam Deck as the portability and display isn't a factor for the Machine.

>>107192652
this thing is shit keep shilling tho

>>107189115 (OP)
Lots of people. This is a console competitor that does not than consoles. Xbox can say goodbye already. Playstation and Nintendo will probably survive though.

>>107192427
sex

how much control will they give us in terms of voltages and stuff? it would be cool to try and undervolt the cpu in the bios and the gpu with lact on linux. even cooler if they let us mess with ram timings.

>>107192743
It's Linux based anon, we can fuck with EVERYTHING

>>107189268
What's wrong with this? It's just a couple of troonix folx gamin'

>>107189115 (OP)
The only shot this has at being good is if its cheap

>>107192743
Pretty sure the GN video said they compared the customization to what you'd find on a normal laptop instead of a regular mobo. So less bells and whistles but still some control.

>>107192743
>even cooler if they let us mess with ram timings.
Isn't that a BIOS thing?

Xbox/PlayStation are ditching exclusives and porting games to PC within a couple months or less. There is fucking zero reason to buy any console other than the Nintendo Switch 2 as they have tons of exclusives and it's still not emulatable on PC and won't be for the foreseeable future.

SteamyBox and a Switch 2 is all you need now!

>>107192788
how cheap can gaben sell this? It's a steam machine, he can subsidize the price surely

so what game they are going to release with this new hardware?

>>107192820
Non-VR version of Haf-life:Alyx

>>107189277
>Mac
>high end gear
What drugs did you take and why was it administered as a VERY thick suppository?

>>107189115 (OP)
from the specs and TDP, it seems like it's comparable to a Radeon RX 7400 and a Ryzen 5 240, so a midrange laptop if it had good cooling and faster memory?

>>107192885
not him but if the strix halo is high end, then the mac must be higher end
>strix halo 395+
>$2000 from Framework
>this thing
>probably like $1000
i don't even use a mac. the only reason to buy one is for local LLMs and everyone else is delusional

>>107189115 (OP)
It could be a nice indie & retro machine + emulation

>>107192918
and now that I'm checking I am pretty sure that the Framework Desktop will handily beat the steam machine in every metric
which I guess isn't surprising for an extra $500-1000

>>107192818
What's their strategy with Steam Deck, is it subsidized? I asked Gemini, it says that the low-end model is subsidized, but they make profit on the high-end ones. Is the answer accurate?

>>107191105
7600 has 32 CUs, 7400 has 28
Cube also has 28

>>107192980
yeah, the lower-end one is about 100$ lower than the manufacturing cost, supposedly

>>107192818
A steam deck can really only be used as a gaming console, while a steam machine is literally just a proprietary SFF PC that competes directly with Dell and Lenovo
If he subsidizes it, that would encourage non-gamers to buy it which would mean unchanged steam sales, resulting in a total loss.

>>107192900
>>107192996
after building a comparable Dell PC lmao
yeah I'm sure the steam machine will run faster and better
but this is what we're working with here

>>107189523
>Thank god/allah

lower case g / yallah.
Get the fuck off my board you dirty sandnigger.

>>107192993
Welp shit is kinda undercooked