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Guilty (Nightmare/Dash) Catalogs
https://vndb.org/p115 (https://vndb.org/p10006 / https://vndb.org/p12551)

DLC patches, MTL, Resources and FAQ (under construction): https://pastebin.com/hPRZ9fua
Tiermaker: https://tiermaker.com/create/guilty---toriko-nightmare-heroines-jan-2025-17773276

Recent releases:
Toriko no Homura ~In'yoku no Honoo ni Michita Chika Tougijou~
虜ノ焔~淫欲の炎に満ちた地下闘技場~
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/torikonohomura/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-86778-1-1.html

Nyotai o Musaboru Settai Ryokan
女体を貪る接待旅館
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/nyotaiwomusaboru_settairyokan/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-86751-1-1.html

Nightmare×sisters Ω (Omega) ~Shuumatsu no Requiem~
Nightmare×sisters Ω~終末のレクイエム~
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/Nightmare_x_Sisters_Omega/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-82731-1-1.html
Guide: https://seiya-saiga.com/game/guilty/nightmare_sisters_omega.html
MTL: https://files.catbox.moe/selwur.zip

Ore dake ni Kashizuku Haramaid-tachi ~Seishi o Musaboru Gonin no Yokushin Onna~
俺だけに傅く孕メイドたち ~精子を貪る五人の欲心女~
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/harameido/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-82726-1-1.html
Guide: https://seiya-saiga.com/game/guilty/harameido.html

Toriko no Urara ~Otoko no Sono ni Magirekonda Ichirin no Akai Hana~
虜ノ麗 ~男の園に紛れこんだ一輪の紅い花~
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/torikonourara/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-78794-1-1.html
MTL: https://mega.nz/file/AaFzxSIb#-0gOInZyEuxgJAIezGNv5JAwN8JukRNlnhm3oiExyDE
https://files.catbox.moe/wjk20q.zip
DLC (Tsuabasa nun fight in Homura): https://files.catbox.moe/z8v0q4.7z

MTLs:
Toriko no Urara/Homura, Nightmare Omega: https://files.catbox.moe/ufbq6x.7z
Homura early buyer patch fixed MTL: https://files.catbox.moe/er85ec.7z
Musaboru fix: https://files.catbox.moe/zkw3gd.7z

Upcoming release: N/A (Maybe another Nightmare or Toriko IF before year end)

From the recent Guilty titles, which girl would you say got the most broken?

Imo, it's Ran from Toriko no Homura.

Do you prefer the Settai Ryokan, where most of the time the women are used fully naked or the usual Toriko / Nightmare project approach with partially clothed (in most cases in school uniform's) women?

>>8697681

>>8697681

Partially clothed all the way. Even if it's just a basic school uniform that's supposed to be identical across many people (or even all the characters), clothes add so much personality, and how exactly they're still partially clothed can even be a little visual differentiation for how the rapist(s) are planning to enjoy them as well.

I also think it's a handy way to symbolize that they still have a grasp of themselves even if they're being forced upon, since clothes represent their normal lives before the game's events happen and nudity is considered a private thing only to be shown to a select few people (of which the point is that the rapist(s) force themselves into that group without the heroine's consent). Which is why I prefer nakedness for when the heroine is broken or nearly broken, for exactly the same reasons outlined above - it helps represent that their individuality has been ground down and their most carnal desires laid bare from mindbreak (whether that be the helpless husk and the "I don't care anymore" approach or the actively nymphomaniac in a "I actively want to be like this" approach)

As a counterquestion, Anon, what do you prefer, and regardless of your answer, what specific state of partial undress or nakedness do you find the most appealing?

>>8697928
>what specific state of partial undress
Just let out the girl's breasts and panties (-hey can keep dangling on her leg's :)

Basically a state that indicates that they want to use the girl, so much that they don't care about her clothes.

Ideally, those part's of the girl's clothes should be torn off as well, but unfortunately that's rare to find in Guilty's game cg's...

Still, the attached cg of Suzune is a pretty good example...

>>8697928
>what specific state of partial undress
Just let out the girl's breasts and panties - they can keep dangling on her leg's :)

Basically a state that indicates that they want to use the girl, so much that they don't care about her clothes.

Ideally, those part's of the girl's clothes should be torn off as well, but unfortunately that's rare to find in Guilty's game cg's...

Still, the attached cg of Suzune is a pretty good example...

https://x.com/Guilty_WillPlus/status/1958455130506006772

CHOOSE YOUR CHARACTER

>>8698550
got dibs on Futaba of course.

Dakimura website: https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/Nightmare_dakimakura_rinne/

>>8698553
You know, it's been some time since this Futaba request I made.

https://files.catbox.moe/79o9xh.mp4

When Pangdong opens up likely at the end of the year, I might make another request with both Futaba and Rinne. They complement each other very well. Just need to figure out a position and which outfit Rinne would use, likely her school outfit.

Well, the talk about Futaba made me:

1.) want to have a Toriko entry where we have a grown up Futaba as a returning character - she lost her virginity at the end of Shimai's "good ending", so I think it's possible for her to make a comeback.

2.) Another Shimai type Toriko game, where it's required for everyone to lose their virginities, in order to achieve the "good ending".

>>8698553
Get in line, boy, there's already around 180 dudes waiting for their turn.

>>8698693
Yuuka from Nightmare x Sisters could pass for an "older Futaba"?

I don't mind a grown up Futaba if she still maintained the same height and proportions. But really I want a Toriko IF starring her. I expect it to happen given how she got a Dakimura, but by that logic that would also mean Mimako would be in line for one as well... uh oh.

Heck, gimme a 3D Guilty game so I can mix and match scenes with different heroines (aka Rinne and Futaba)

>>8698720
Every time someone posts a favorite tier list here, Futaba is nowhere near the top. Where are these fans?

>>8698916
Futaba has some popularity considering she has some above average counts of fan works. For me I just find her too "out of place", like she is supposed to be in a vanila eroge, not in this dark setting.

>>8700299
I don't think I've ever seen Futaba fanart beyond an AI edit of her dakimura art turned into a tapestry (if this plagiarism counts) and the >>8698647

>>8698916
No idea why she's lower for other people, but she instantly became one of my favorites because afaik she is the only Toriko girl with an actual deepthroat scene that has her gagging and choking instead of more manageable blowjob scenes all the other girls have.

>>8701065
>she instantly became one of my favorites because afaik she is the only Toriko girl with an actual deepthroat scene that has her gagging and choking
absolutely patrician taste
She also has a really really cute design, I wish I could buy her Daki...

I wonder when Guilty will announce their christmas release. Whatever they decide to release better has their older artstyle, I hope enough jp customers complained lol

>>8701352
Homura's artstyle is uggo on top of mid looking heroines. I hope nips complained too.

On erogegamescape, Toriko no Homura has a similar score as Toriko no Chikai, so even if some japanese complained about the new art style, based on the score's (71 Homura, vs 74 Chikai) i don't think it was a huge amount.

>>8701644
Complain more and next Toriko game will feature stickmen going hot'n'heavy on each other.

>>8703050
It depends on the legit buyers that give their feedbacks in surveys. My personal gripe is the tell not show for fighting, with not even the stationary fighting pose in Nightmare or like Rei in Kizuna. There's even hardly any non-H CG after Chikai.

>>8703997
>any non-H CG after Chikai

The reason for that is pretty simple, Guilty replaced all those non H cg with the orgy / multiple girl rape H cg scene's, since the number of cg's between Chikai and Urara is still more or less the same.

Guilty probably analyzed that adding more H scene's is generating them more profit, since we also don't have the shower of shame cg scene's as well.

What do you think about decreasing the number of 'victims' in the Toriko series, if it meant the rest of the female's would have more characterization / cg scene's.

Considering how the recent Toriko female's have pretty similar designs, a move like that, might not be received too badly...

>>8705675
IIRC, Guilty pretty much went with "5-ish victims per Toriko game formula since Chigiri, where we only had 2 main and 1 support victim, and it's highly unlikely they gonna change it back to old ways. I'd say, the "less characters, more development" is slowly shifting to Dash games, excluding their last game, OFC.

>>8704604
where is this from?

>>8705715
Toriko no Homura https://vndb.org/v56239 - it's one of the scene's leading up to the final story choice.

>>8705675
If it means that CG's are of the same quality an variety as the Maika ones I'd rather have less victims.

>>8706567
I like their approach if throwing other characters in different routes, so it does not mean just only one girl lose.

Do you want Guilty to attempt an old style Toriko entry?

Basically, only the female protagonist get's raped, maybe a separation into single or gangrape route's and finally some more variety in the victim's design's...

>>8708076
If only... I legit miss times of Kusari and Shirabe (the first one, nor Refrain) with mostly main characters getting broken and completely sexually annihilated in their IF endings.

I also wish we could go even further into the past, to the times of Wana, of Helter Skelter, where we also had no limits over incest, bestiality, and mature women weren't random appearances but rather took their share of dicks alongside their daughters/students.

Spartansex my favorite :D

>>8708849
Played Toriko no Urara yet? It is sorta like a modern remake plus Wana, with a literal Ep$tein Island.

>>8708880
not a fan of the art style of the newer Torikos, it's too moe

>>8708251
I think that the reason why we don't get games like Helter Skelter, has partially due to the market change, partially with the band splits that Guilty has done.

After all, the Guilty Dash band seems to focus more or on mature women (milf's)

Guilty Nightmare project seems to be about occult stuff and getting girl's get pregnant.

While the Guilty band is left with the Toriko series and the recent return of the Harame series.

Still it could be a different thing if the girl's in the Toriko would actually get pregnant, maybe then we could have bad endings were the enslaved girl teaches her "daughter" (once she grows up a little bit) about sex...

I just finished Toriko no Homura yesterday, I left the true ending route for last, I don't dislike it but it's not my favorite either, I'm not complaining about the art because I love it, Noba has been present since the first Toriko in the series and since Shirabe Refrain, Akatsuki Hijiri and Teeta J have joined so I'm used to it, the only thing I didn't like much was that Simon wasn't present in this game. Of the latest Toriko, my favorites are Toriko no Tsubasa, Toriko no Chikai, Toriko no Shimai, and Toriko no Urara. By the way, in the true ending route, this caught my attention, isn't this guy Amamiya Seiichi?

>>8711424
Yep, I don't believe he has been introduced, but I think it's a nice reference that at least Homura and Chikai / Chigiri take place in the same 'world'.

Maybe we will have some interesting crossover Toriko If scenario's, because of this...

Any tips to get Last Waltz to work?

>>8712629
Windows XP virtual machine was the only option that actually worked for me.

I haven't found any other options that worked for me.

>>8712629
Yeah I added the rioshiina-fix, then set compatibility mode to either Windows 95 or Windows 98

I don't know what has been "fixed", since I can't access the download site, but both Shimai and Omega have respectively released the version 1.0.1 and 1.0.2 patches today.

>>8712668
How many of their games need this? Genuinely asking as I never used VMs to play games, even on Linux.

>>8713287
I haven't checked them all, but generally most older guilty games (before the first Harame release date) might require this step, since they use a different engine compared to the current Guilty titles, and if those titles also have some form of DRM on them, they might not work on modern system's.

>>8695581 (OP)
>>8713136
Made a rentry patch list in case anyone has trouble assessing

https://rentry.org/8s9c5mtc

The new ones seems to be sound fixes.

What kind of personalities would you like the future female Guilty character's to have?

Personally I would be interested in seeing how a tsundere type, would work in Guilty's usual formula.

First she would show this attitude toward her 'friends' (the other female character's) - that she actually likes, but isn't honest about it...

But after she gets raped, she shift's this attitude toward dick's, as a unconscious defensive / coping mechanism...

Not to mention it would fit for the girl to have a twin tail hairstyle... which is pretty rare in Guilty games, since I only remember that Kino had that type of hairstyle...

>>8713478
thanks for making and updating this list sir

>>8714076
give me a girl who will tease and flirt just to mess around with other guys' feelings and peer pressure other girls into sexual situations for the thrill of it but she's purely acting and is actually chaste. Basically the worst friend to have in a Guilty game. Even better if she can getaway with a virgin ending while still sacrificing her friends.

pic partially related in terms of personality (but not as malicious for a Guilty game)

>>8715042
i.e. she's nowhere near as malicious as the guilty concept I'm imagining but she can be pretty damned spiteful and ruthless.

Do all of the Toriko games have an ending where the girls manage to escape? Or are there some where they are trapped with no hope for escape?

>>8716186
There are no Toriko titles that don't have an ending where the girls manage to escape.

But the two most recent Toriko titles (Urara and Homura) apart from the 'escape' ending have an ending were all the girl's are 'captured' and the still virgin girl's have their defloration's occur...

Although, it's not considered a cannon ending, if that's what you had in mind.

Not to mention, all the Toriko titles have DLC if events that occur with the implication that all the girl's have been 'secured' by the villains - although the last two recent titles, don't have any group cg scene's in them.

>>8716312

Which CG was that for Homura? The capture ending, specifically. Yet to have the time to read it all the way through but I have a save file so I can access all the scenes...svpvt

>>8716479
Loo9k for the opening post cg . It's from the ending were all the girl's are captured.

>>8716479
Look for the opening post cg . It's from the ending were all the girl's are captured.

On the topic Guilty's female character's...

Do you prefer female's that have sensitive bodies having a squirting orgasm scene in their second scene after their defloration - although despite their body reactions, mentally they still try to resist.

Or do you prefer female's that are usually capable of not showing their body so obviously, but in return have a more spectacular 'falling' scene?

Personally I think the second option is more interesting, but the best option is probably having both types of female's in a single title, since it provides some more route variety...

What makes you continue playing titles made by Guilty?

For me it's the fact that they make most of their games from the female's POV, which is pretty rare in r**e type titles.

The other is that their titles plot's is pretty logical - we don't have the girl's immediately falling and the means that the bad guys use to keep the girl's silent are pretty good.

The art style is not bad, at least when it comes to the static scene's, since some of their motion cg's still look average imo.

>>8719052
I agree with you, in my case it was also for the same reason, I was drawn to the fact that the story was from the female point of view since it is not very common and that interested me a lot, apart from that I had seen the animated adaptation of toriko hime and I thought it was connected, the plot that each of them offer us is very good, and the art, well I think I mentioned it in an old post, the first toriko I played was toriko no chigiri and I fell in love with the art of noba who drew rio and his sister, I don't remember the artist of the nurse, then came shirabe and kusari with noba drawing the main characters again and of course from here on artists like simon (who is missed) akatsuki hiziri and teeta j joined to name those who are usually present. For the same reasons you mention, I keep playing this beautiful saga. There is something I didn't like about these last two games, which are the CG scenes of the shower and the girls' happy moments. But I will still keep playing this series.

I wonder what are the chances of Guilty introducing a female character, who's older then she actually looks.

For example she is already 20 year old, but actually looks pretty similar to Futaba from Toriko no Shimai.

I think something like that could provide some more variety to the cast's design + it could provide an interesting route, since for a young adult, her looking like a teenager, could develop into a complex, that the bad guys would tease her about...

>>8720602
That would be interesting, 'cause for now we got the opposite situation - 18-year olds sporting curves of women around 20-25, especially in the chest area.

>>8720633
Maybe Guilty will produce more accurate proportion's for a 18 year old girl, if enough people complain about it or some of the product's featuring smaller sized female's sell pretty well then Gulity will change their mind about this...

Although it depends on what is the reasoning behind their current melon fixation...

What kind of scene's do you enjoy the most when it comes to Guilty games?

For me, it's naturally the virgin loss scene's.

In the second place I would place I would put the scene's were the female gets fully "corrupted"...

>>8724140
threesome scenes of course

why else would I be playing their games?

>>8724658
>why else would I be playing their games?
I dunno, some people play it for 5p/6p scenes (which used to be part of DLC's until recent games where they may pretty much appear as the bad end/final breaking point for character being used as main course for a massive orgy scene)

>>8725464
6P scenes are excessive. Imagine being the dude who has merely has his dick held, or worse, has to play with the girl's hair. Why even bother at that point?

>>8725490
Ob second thought, when you stick your stick into a hole that was pounded by around 10-ish guys before you - how do you know they didn't give her some nasty crabs you may as well catch? From that point, working her asshole, or going with hairjob/handjob sound like a way safer option to me.

OFC, eroge females don't usually catch HIV and other shit, but still, similar thing happen IRL too.

>>8725576
>Ob second thought, when you stick your stick into a hole that was pounded by around 10-ish guys before you - how do you know they didn't give her some nasty crabs you may as well catch?

that's just one of many many reasons not to participate in real life where you have to contend with consequences as opposed to fiction. I think it's rather oxymoronic that Guilty is one of my favorite doujin circles yet I think Bonnie Blue should be in jail, never to ever see or interact with a cock for the rest of her life, for her degeneracy.

Speaking about DLC's - do you think there is still a point of still having the time limited DLC content for the Toriko series?

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind having more content, not to mention Guilty wouldn't be making those DLC, if they didn't have some effect in bringing up their sales - but still personally I don't enjoy the direction they went with in the recent Toriko titles.

The additional outfits for the girl's are nice, but I still have the impression that the time limited DLC is just an after thought and Guilty just doesn't put a lot of development into it - unlike the older titles, which have the orgy scene's in the time limited DLC, which I think required a little more effort compared to what we currently get.

So if that's the case maybe Guilty should stop making the time limited DLC and put the "freed" development into making the other area's of a Toriko title even better?

>>8727036
The DLCs are there to get higher game purchases during launch period, since otherwise people will buy the games during the sales period. If I am a game developer or publisher, I would definitely want to get as much sales data so I can know if game is doing good or bad, then plan out future titles.

Honestly I don't mind the current DLC plus shop bonus, with Urara using Homura fighting arena. Though wished it was Kanna instead of Tsubasa since voice actress joke, and preferably other Nightmare costume instead of Setsuna black to white Omega costume.

The Shirabe Refrain and Kizuna DLC were way worse, having each of the 8 scenes per game being store exclusive, so need to somehow buy 8 times twice to collect all scenes.

Also one other thing is the 4 huge game release for the first half of this year, so wonder if there will be another Toriko IF or Nightmare Maverick sequel later this year.

In the Toriko series would you like Guilty to return to having a "normal" female cast or would you like them to continue the theme that started in Homura of having a slightly stronger cast of female's (at least in the physical sense).

Personally I think a mix of those two options would be a good thing - basically out of the 5 female cast we usually get, have 2 - 3 of them know martial arts, or be physically stronger then the rest of the female cast.

Naturally one of those reasons is that one of the female's would be already an adult, who is usually stronger compared to a teenager...

>>8728742
I'd rather my waifus not be able to kick my ass. What Chikai did with Touko being Shizuka's bodyguard was fine (also cause I only cared about Shizuka in that cast). So I don't mind one cast member having a character trait of being physically strong and a competent fighter who looks out for the other castmembers.

I'd imagine it'd feel humilating to be strong but still feel hopeless in stopping the abuse. But I don't care for "Strong women" in these stories to begin with. Women are meant to be protected (hypocritical that I'm saying this while enjoying this circle's titles, I know).

Since I had formatted the PC, I had to play them all again. Since I prioritized the latest releases, I still had to play Toriko no Kizuna.
Yesterday, I finished Rie's route, and the scene after the credits reminded me of Toriko no Homura.
There's something I don't quite understand, and what happened to Maika? I'm studying Japanese, but I haven't seen the kanji yet. Is there an app or patch for Kizuna so I can play it in English?

>>8729599
rie says she dropped out of school and doesn't know what happened to anyone else. she won't (and probably can't) try to contact them. at best maika is still being blackmailed and more likely is also enslaved

1.0.1 patch for Toriko no Homura
https://www.willplus-download.com/Guilty/torikonohomura/torikonohomura_patch101.zip

What do you think about having a delinquent school as the next Toriko setting.

Basically something similar to Wanna. but from the female's point of view.

I know that we had Urara recently, but imo the atmosphere of Urara's school is completely different then the one we had in Wanna

Maybe it's because of the graffiti that appears both in the outside and inside school scene's..

Not to mention, a delinquent school could be a good place to have some actual 'physical' imprisonment of the girls.

>>8695581 (OP)
I'll be THAT guy: do any of the recent Guilty games have scenes similar to pic related? I really like the foreigner + prostitution angle a lot, and the girls' reactions to them.

>>8732425
We've had this question before lol
Scenes with black dudes off the top of my hat, they mostly aren't really prostitutes though:
Nao (Shirabe DLC+Refrain DLC), Rina (Yugami DLC), Rio (Chigiri+DLC), Mio (Kusari DLC, actual prostitution iirc)
If White foreigners are ok too: Ikumi+Miki (Tsubasa, 1x actual prostitution), Sawa (Urara)
Just prostitution + big chinpo: Sara (Shizuku), Sei (Urara)
Guilty haven't been doing black dudes for their last few games, guess it's not too popular. Or it's just one of the things that fell to the wayside like post gangbang/shower/non-ero CGs...

>>8732458
>post gangbang/shower/non-ero CGs
I recently started rereading Tsubasa and got to Yuno's 'shower scene' and I have to say compared to the feels she displayed in that scene the reactions that the recent Toriko female's display after losing their virginity and being used by multiple guys seem a bit shallow.

So I hope that Guilty is going to return to this aspect (shower scene, post gangrape reflection - at least for the main target / main character), even if it means having less multiple female and male scene's...

What do you think about Guilty's current year's release schedule ?

Personally I think they released a little too much "bigger" budget games in the first half of the year and it probably affected, their second half of the year release schedule, since they haven't announced any new titles so far...

Hopefully they will do a little less "bigger" budget games in the next year or at least they will spread them more evenly instead of concentrating all of them in the first half of the year.

>>8734024
Speaking of shower scenes, from any Guilty game I used to think, it's only protagonist that had that "shower of shame" one, but in Tsubasa we actually got it for both Ikumi and Yuno. Does this mean, Yuno may actually be the real protagonist, considering how she even managed to get her own DLC, contrary to Ikumi?

>>8736136
Imo Ikumi is still the protagonist, since most of the game is told from her POV, I would say that Yuno is the 'main heroine' of the story, since she is the one targeted by the bad guys and everyone else got involved in this, because they where friends with her.

Due to Yuno's 'main heroine', she also received focus in the post launch DLC

>>8735640
I think that too, maybe less releases would have been better. From what I have seen online, people kinda complained about the quick succession of full price games. especially in the current economy. I don't mind since unfortunately I can't legally buy them, but imo Homura felt kinda rushed.
I can somewhat understand not finding the Homura sound bug, but not seeing that nipple bug in Omega and not providing a zero-day patch despite people on tweeter telling them basically from release of the demo is kinda weak.
Imo it would be best to focus on Toriko as full price game in it's usual timeslot and release some half price games during the rest of the year...
Like Nightmare, If scenarios for popular heroines or Dash games. They could try out some new situations / fetishes / whatever in those smaller releases and gauge fan interest to innovate their main product...
If I were a bigwig at guilty I'd make a list of heroines that have their VA available and let people vote to get a ranking for who is gonna get an If game. I'd even make a scenario writing contest where people can send in their idea of a scenario outline for one of said heroines, best scenario(s) gets voted on and turned into a game by guilty
Basically involve their loyal (paying) audience in some more ways

Any of these games focus on NTR?

>>8737700
I'd say, Nightmare series, kind of, considering Setsuna is Touma's childhood friend, and, most likely, his love interest.

>>8737700
Toriko no Chikai has one with Rio's route, who has someone she plans to merry...

Apart from that, if you want to play the pretty old Guilty titles then Miu the mc of Helter Skelter has someone she has feelings for, but she is used by other men, losing her virginity in the process, before she is capable of reveling those feelings...

Speaking about the female's in Guilty games - do you prefer scene's where they are still trying to 'resist' or would you like more scene's where they are 'broken' ?

Personally I would like it, if we also had more scenario's were one of the broken female's in her 'ending' helps the bad guys break another female, which to some extent has been present in Toriko no Homura, so maybe Guilty will expand on that in future entries...

>>8738537
I prefer those that are still kinda delusional in their endings that they are protecting someone else so they just continue to let themselves be used.

Speaking about endings...

Considering the fact that the recent Toriko titles have a little more yuri elements, I wonder what are the chances that we get scene's where a girl deflowers another girl in her ending, or that it's the scene close to her route's ending where she 'breaks'.

Naturally with some male assistance...

>>8741280
I'm sorry dude I really dislike yuri scenes with strap ons. They look stupid.

>>8742778
What about strap-on yuri+incest ones?

Speaking about the Toriko series...

Any changes you would like to see in the next entry?

Personally I think that the art style after Homura is going to undergo another change, since it's not the worst art imo, but it takes time to get used to it.

Not to mention, I think that Guilty should do some changes to the angle's in some of the scene's - since a few cg's from Homura are too close imo and should be a bit further away for a better 'experience'.

Guilty should also return to the 'shower of shame' scene's, that stopped being seen, after Tsubasa (meaning we are already in the 3rd year without one)

Now about the routes, well I don't think that much changes need to be done, except for the return of some young adult female - I don't mind the all teenager cast that Homura has, but having more variety is definitely an advantage.

I also think we should have at least one route that has less gangbang scene's in the first few scene's, before things 'escalate' and end up with a pretty big group using the female... without letting her rest.

Finally Guilty should give the female's some more development and show some subtle scene's that show her behavior starts to slowly change after she is starting to get sexually corrupted, which the other female's notice and in other for Guilty the space needed for that development maybe they should go with 4 female's instead of the usual 5...

>>8742954
still dumb. Don't bring a woman in to do a man's job. Both girls getting railed at the same time is fine though.

>>8743693
>Any changes you would like to see in the next entry?
I don't know at what point they swapped but I wish they would go back to the art style from Kusari. The characters oozed sex appeal unlike some of the more recent ones who look like they were ripped right out of some moeblob vanilla VN

>>8743725
Continuing with the yuri + incest scene, in Toriko no Chigiri, in Mayu's route there is this scene with her sister Rio

Random smug moment of seeing my tierlist being used in a chink forum (was looking for another game). Also saw 4ch mentioned in another post.

https://www.ai2.moe/topic/33682-guilty%E7%A4%BE%E8%82%89%E4%BE%BF%E5%99%A8%E6%8E%92%E8%A1%8C%E6%A6%9C/

On another while waiting for Guilty news if any by the month or even year end, been playing around Koikatsu since there are apparently some character models on pixiv. That and too many AI slop floating around.

>>8745853
> Shizuka in S tier

niceu

> Futaba in who tier

;_;

>>8745853
>That and too many AI slop floating around.

Surprisingly I don't run into any AI slop for Guilty games.

It's pure speculation, since I don't think it has a huge chance of occurring, but what do you think about transferring the artists that where responsible for the maid game to the next Toriko entry?

After all, imo they did a bit better job, at least when it comes to eye designs compared to the eye designs in Toriko no Homura...

>>8745853
>Aoi in S tier
based

>>8745853
Yui deserves her own tier.

Toriko no Homura's article is at the top of BugBug's popularity ranking for the period between 10.11 to 10.17

https://www.bugbug.news/b_game/231418/

>>8749426
I think people are just thirsty for some news on the next titles.

>>8751089
>every day check tweeter
>every day no new tweetings
mfw :(((

>>8751182
Which I am baffled why Guilty decided to squeeze four big titles in the first half this year, and now we just get Teeta J dakis. Would had been a wiser move to spread them out throughout the year.

A Toriko IF game, Nightmare Maverick sequel or even a dash title would be nice.

>>8747126
>Surprisingly I don't run into any AI slop for Guilty games.
I can make some if you guys want. I did plenty of guilty slop already, I just don't post it everywhere on the internet like those sad pretend artist motherfuckers.
while I got pretty good at making it, I still hate ai (and always will) so I'm also glad that I haven't run into a lot of it too. I hate it.. but also reviving the older characters and or even the older guilty art styles is honestly really nice as well. I'm really conflicted about this.
pic unrel, this is an old rei nude edit I made completely manually a while ago. bit insane and depressing to think that I could straight up make new scenes of her in less time than I took to make this edit now..

>>8751211
My thoughts exactly. Homura felt rushed and kinda unoriginal/repetitive imo, but maybe that's just me...
Toriko if with a popular girl is my hope for end of year, Aina's game was really nice. I can't imagine they don't sell anything new during christmas season but who knows...

>>8747126
There have been a bunch of toriko girl LORAs on civitai lately, but I haven't seen anything generated with them in the wild.
As good as AI pics might be, without dialogues those scenes are kinda worthless for me nowadays.

>>8751211
Well, we don't know one thing, what is Guilty's current financial situation.

It's certainly possible that with Omega's delay and Toriko If + Maverick not generating the amount of income they initially expected, Guilty has been forced to use some desperate measures to increase their income, resulting with releasing 4 projects in quick succession to fix their income deficiency.

With the end result being the "current" situation, where Guilty might be revising their plans for this year and the next ones to avoid a repeat of that.

>>8751293
Yoooooooooooooooo. Can you do a scene of Futaba and Rinne like pic related? Where they're naked except for Futaba with her school thigh highs and a bow tie and Rinne, choose something equivalent? Please? And thanks man.


I was mulling on either this or another scene to send to Pangdong as a request the next time she opens up, but she said two many girls for the scene I chose.

>>8751438
this was the image that got rejected, too many cocks.

>>8751448
*I also asked for Futaba (who would have taken Miyuu's place) to also be doing fellatio.

>>8751438
you mean rinne from nightmare right? I'll try, though I have mostly been experimenting with solo group scene, adding one more girl shouldn't be difficult

>>8751618
Yup, I commissioned an animation from Pangdong and got to chat with Teeta J on Twitter when I pinged him on it. I told him Guilty has too many fan favorite characters that are used once and never used again. He said that he discussed the idea of an animation of Toriko no Shimai to the director. This was before the If games were announced. So eventually I'd like to commission another animation to ask him about crossovers.

https://files.catbox.moe/79o9xh.mp4

Of course I'm not going to present to him any AI generated stuff, but it doesn't mean we can't fulfill fantasies with it and drum up ideas to ask for a request.

Never in my wildest dreams did I think to cross Futaba with Yoshiku's artstyle. This is crazy. I feel like I owe Yoshiku $10K now.

>>8752182
Also got my account restricted. Whoops. Guess that's why you put "mature" in your prompt.

>>8752183
made a new account and went right back to business.

>>8752236
Civit, tensor or pixai?

>>8752349
civit

https://x.com/Guilty_WillPlus/status/1981284460810424476

Ikumi daki

>>8753062
shoulda skipped Tsubasa and skipped to Chikai for shizuka tbqh

but congrats to whoever waifus her.

>>8753062
Rather then another daki, I would prefer a new game, but maybe something is going to finally be announced in that regard as well.

>>8753144
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

Ikumi if would be nice but random af lol

>>8753237
just save this bro

>Ikumi if would be nice but random af lol
Just how popular are the Tsubasa girls? Or each of casts in relation to each other? I assume Mio from Kusari would top charts.

>>8753280
>popularity

Well, I think that among the younger generation they might be quite popular, since Tsubasa's original version got released only 3 years ago, and in the last year the game got a DVDPG re release as well.

Basically, compared to the older Guilty titles the newer ones might have more availability and as a result more sales and Guilty ultimately looks at the sale numbers when it comes to which entries cast they going to promote with some more "merchandise".

>>8753536
The funny thing is that Toriko no Kusari got manga adaptation released like 2 weeks ago. Though the manga is just CG rips of the game, like there was another manga version that just used the anime screenshots. Preview shows it sort of combined the routes like the other Toriko novels.

https://booklive.jp/product/index/title_id/2028177/vol_no/001

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>>8753536
The funny thing is that Toriko no Kusari got manga adaptation released like 2 weeks ago. Though the manga is just CG rips of the game, like there was another manga version that just used the anime screenshots. Preview shows it sort of combined the routes like the other Toriko novels.

https://www.cmoa.jp/title/316399/vol/1/

There are also variations of censor like one that photoshop out the nipples like that is gonna reduce the explicitness.

>>8754759

I see, I wasn't aware of that... but ultimately, it depends on the sales, if the adaptation significantly increases the sales of the original then I could see Guilty becoming interested in returning to Toriko no Kusari.

Although the returning character won't be Mio, since her voice actor doesn't seem to work in the industry anymore.,unless Guilty decides to find a replacement, but the rest of the Toriko no Kusari cast seems to have still working voice actor's - so it might be possible to create a Toriko IF scenario with one of them...

I need to build my own PC. Civitai doesn't have tools (unless I subscribe maybe?) in their interface to allow me to do inpainting to generate proper images of both Futaba and Rinne without it botching the generation.

Yeah this is a new addiction I gotta hold myself back on.

>>8755831
Yeah rofl this is why I haven't delivered that for you yet, even if you have a proper local install using 2 loras at once is really difficult and I don't like relying on inpainting for this.

>>8753062
I love her. would buy that if I could..

>>8756195
I've gotten a few decent images but this came from a good chunk of generations and I had to abandon an artstyle Lycoris. It's tough my dude, but thanks for trucking along and attempting my request.

>>8756779

Looks great, but I have to say that now I would want scene's in the actual game, where the girls are forced to kiss each other.

Since I don't remember any Guilty game having a cg scene where the girls are kissing each other ...

>>8753062
Yes, Ikumi's daki!!
I would like them to release one of Yuno and Ririsa. They're my favorites from Toriko no Tsubasa.
Although I also like Miki. Now that I'm seeing the tier, I have to do it again since Toriko no Urara and Toriko no Homura hadn't come out yet.
Another daki I would like them to make is Nao and Kizuna. I remember they released one of Maika. I would like one of Rie, Sara, Yoko, and Juri. Would you like one of any character in particular?

>>8757511
I think Rio (preferably as a young adult and in her "wedding" dress) deserves a daki, due to having the honor of being the first victim of the current "modern" Toriko series.

>>8756812
>Looks great, but I have to say that now I would want scene's in the actual game, where the girls are forced to kiss each other.

Heh, I like that you post one of my favorite scenes (it would have been one of my favorites with or without Kazuho)

>>8757511
I think it is a shame that they wound up doing two Ikumi dakis instead of one for both Ikumi and Yuno. I understand that it saves them from contracting multiple artists but it would have been nice to be able to put them together.

I hope they go with Kanna if they release an Urara daki but I also understand that is probably very unlikely.

Speculation, but I'm guessing that either Mangagamer only had a license for the first three titles or the games haven't got good sales, since we already passed the two year mark, since the last Nightmare project entry got released in English.

Since, I haven't seen any announcements that the other unreleased entries are going to follow, so it's quite likely that it has been abandoned.

After all, it would have been nice, if we had the entire "Shidou sisters" entries released in uncensored format, but unfortunately it seems unlikely to happen...

>>8758686
A funny coincidence is that Otogi Frontier had a collab with just the first three Nightmare games heroines, and then later did Toriko no Urara.

There is a silhouette of upcoming Otogi characters that hints a possible Urara rerun, so not sure if Guilty stalled all Nightmare stuff on their end.

New Nightmare game supposedly planned to be out November, but think it is likely pushed to early next year.

https://x.com/Guilty_WillPlus/status/1984191111817015348

>>8759499
Maverick got announced at a similar time (10.27.2024) and was still released near the end of that year.

So, while there is a one week of difference when it comes to this new work, there is still a possibility of it being released at the end of December.

>>8759499
Nightmare outfits aren't appealing to me tbqh

>>8760385
? I like the handholding though, like they have some kind of kizuna (bond)

>>8760574
It's fine, Nightmare is to get the Taimanin and exorcist fantasy audience.

>>8760600
>It's fine, Nightmare is to get the Taimanin and exorcist fantasy audience.
huh

never thought of it that way. I'll take a Teeta.J version of Mai pls

>>8760600
not cyberpunk enough for me tbf. I love the nightmare outfits for the most part, but they aren't good enough for me not to wish most scenes weren't nude and at least have them mostly ripped and destroyed by the time the billions dudes are done with the girls for the day

>>8760696
Well, personally I wouldn't mind Guilty going for more torn clothing cg scene's, since so far, unless it's the Toriko title cg, they seem to be pretty rare.

After all, I only remember Ririsa from Toriko no Tsubasa having a scene like that...

.

>>8761317
I get Pavlov reaction whenever Guilty use the clothes tearing sfx

>>8758718
Okay correction, this is just limit break on their level. Recall Kanna is welfare so she is not applicable. Still like them being front focus.

What kind of theme would you like the next Toriko title to have?

Personally I have been thinking about having some kind of spiritual successor to the first Toriko no Shirabe where the main villain would be a teacher who has a grudge against the main female's family (basically a failed attempt)...

So he infiltrates her school as a teacher, convinces some delinquent male students to become his underling's (so that we can have gangbang content) and when the time is right, he strikes.

It could also be a good setting to have some "returning character" fill up the role of the not a virgin character...