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Guilty (Nightmare/Dash) Catalogs
https://vndb.org/p115 (https://vndb.org/p10006 / https://vndb.org/p12551)

DLC patches, MTL, Resources and FAQ (under construction): https://pastebin.com/hPRZ9fua
Tiermaker: https://tiermaker.com/create/guilty---toriko-nightmare-heroines-jan-2025-17773276

Recent releases:
Toriko no Homura ~In'yoku no Honoo ni Michita Chika Tougijou~
虜ノ焔~淫欲の炎に満ちた地下闘技場~
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/torikonohomura/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-86778-1-1.html

Nyotai o Musaboru Settai Ryokan
女体を貪る接待旅館
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/nyotaiwomusaboru_settairyokan/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-86751-1-1.html

Nightmare×sisters Ω (Omega) ~Shuumatsu no Requiem~
Nightmare×sisters Ω~終末のレクイエム~
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/Nightmare_x_Sisters_Omega/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-82731-1-1.html
Guide: https://seiya-saiga.com/game/guilty/nightmare_sisters_omega.html
MTL: https://files.catbox.moe/selwur.zip

Ore dake ni Kashizuku Haramaid-tachi ~Seishi o Musaboru Gonin no Yokushin Onna~
俺だけに傅く孕メイドたち ~精子を貪る五人の欲心女~
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/harameido/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-82726-1-1.html
Guide: https://seiya-saiga.com/game/guilty/harameido.html

Toriko no Urara ~Otoko no Sono ni Magirekonda Ichirin no Akai Hana~
虜ノ麗 ~男の園に紛れこんだ一輪の紅い花~
https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/torikonourara/
DL: https://www.mikocon.com/thread-78794-1-1.html
MTL: https://mega.nz/file/AaFzxSIb#-0gOInZyEuxgJAIezGNv5JAwN8JukRNlnhm3oiExyDE
https://files.catbox.moe/wjk20q.zip
DLC (Tsuabasa nun fight in Homura): https://files.catbox.moe/z8v0q4.7z

MTLs:
Toriko no Urara/Homura, Nightmare Omega: https://files.catbox.moe/ufbq6x.7z
Homura early buyer patch fixed MTL: https://files.catbox.moe/er85ec.7z
Musaboru fix: https://files.catbox.moe/zkw3gd.7z

Upcoming release: N/A (Maybe another Nightmare or Toriko IF before year end)

From the recent Guilty titles, which girl would you say got the most broken?

Imo, it's Ran from Toriko no Homura.

Do you prefer the Settai Ryokan, where most of the time the women are used fully naked or the usual Toriko / Nightmare project approach with partially clothed (in most cases in school uniform's) women?

>>8697681

>>8697681

Partially clothed all the way. Even if it's just a basic school uniform that's supposed to be identical across many people (or even all the characters), clothes add so much personality, and how exactly they're still partially clothed can even be a little visual differentiation for how the rapist(s) are planning to enjoy them as well.

I also think it's a handy way to symbolize that they still have a grasp of themselves even if they're being forced upon, since clothes represent their normal lives before the game's events happen and nudity is considered a private thing only to be shown to a select few people (of which the point is that the rapist(s) force themselves into that group without the heroine's consent). Which is why I prefer nakedness for when the heroine is broken or nearly broken, for exactly the same reasons outlined above - it helps represent that their individuality has been ground down and their most carnal desires laid bare from mindbreak (whether that be the helpless husk and the "I don't care anymore" approach or the actively nymphomaniac in a "I actively want to be like this" approach)

As a counterquestion, Anon, what do you prefer, and regardless of your answer, what specific state of partial undress or nakedness do you find the most appealing?

>>8697928
>what specific state of partial undress
Just let out the girl's breasts and panties (-hey can keep dangling on her leg's :)

Basically a state that indicates that they want to use the girl, so much that they don't care about her clothes.

Ideally, those part's of the girl's clothes should be torn off as well, but unfortunately that's rare to find in Guilty's game cg's...

Still, the attached cg of Suzune is a pretty good example...

>>8697928
>what specific state of partial undress
Just let out the girl's breasts and panties - they can keep dangling on her leg's :)

Basically a state that indicates that they want to use the girl, so much that they don't care about her clothes.

Ideally, those part's of the girl's clothes should be torn off as well, but unfortunately that's rare to find in Guilty's game cg's...

Still, the attached cg of Suzune is a pretty good example...

https://x.com/Guilty_WillPlus/status/1958455130506006772

CHOOSE YOUR CHARACTER

>>8698550
got dibs on Futaba of course.

Dakimura website: https://www.guilty-soft.com/product/Nightmare_dakimakura_rinne/

>>8698553
You know, it's been some time since this Futaba request I made.

https://files.catbox.moe/79o9xh.mp4

When Pangdong opens up likely at the end of the year, I might make another request with both Futaba and Rinne. They complement each other very well. Just need to figure out a position and which outfit Rinne would use, likely her school outfit.

Well, the talk about Futaba made me:

1.) want to have a Toriko entry where we have a grown up Futaba as a returning character - she lost her virginity at the end of Shimai's "good ending", so I think it's possible for her to make a comeback.

2.) Another Shimai type Toriko game, where it's required for everyone to lose their virginities, in order to achieve the "good ending".

>>8698553
Get in line, boy, there's already around 180 dudes waiting for their turn.

>>8698693
Yuuka from Nightmare x Sisters could pass for an "older Futaba"?

I don't mind a grown up Futaba if she still maintained the same height and proportions. But really I want a Toriko IF starring her. I expect it to happen given how she got a Dakimura, but by that logic that would also mean Mimako would be in line for one as well... uh oh.

Heck, gimme a 3D Guilty game so I can mix and match scenes with different heroines (aka Rinne and Futaba)

>>8698720
Every time someone posts a favorite tier list here, Futaba is nowhere near the top. Where are these fans?

>>8698916
Futaba has some popularity considering she has some above average counts of fan works. For me I just find her too "out of place", like she is supposed to be in a vanila eroge, not in this dark setting.

>>8700299
I don't think I've ever seen Futaba fanart beyond an AI edit of her dakimura art turned into a tapestry (if this plagiarism counts) and the >>8698647

>>8698916
No idea why she's lower for other people, but she instantly became one of my favorites because afaik she is the only Toriko girl with an actual deepthroat scene that has her gagging and choking instead of more manageable blowjob scenes all the other girls have.

>>8701065
>she instantly became one of my favorites because afaik she is the only Toriko girl with an actual deepthroat scene that has her gagging and choking
absolutely patrician taste
She also has a really really cute design, I wish I could buy her Daki...

I wonder when Guilty will announce their christmas release. Whatever they decide to release better has their older artstyle, I hope enough jp customers complained lol

>>8701352
Homura's artstyle is uggo on top of mid looking heroines. I hope nips complained too.

On erogegamescape, Toriko no Homura has a similar score as Toriko no Chikai, so even if some japanese complained about the new art style, based on the score's (71 Homura, vs 74 Chikai) i don't think it was a huge amount.

>>8701644
Complain more and next Toriko game will feature stickmen going hot'n'heavy on each other.

>>8703050
It depends on the legit buyers that give their feedbacks in surveys. My personal gripe is the tell not show for fighting, with not even the stationary fighting pose in Nightmare or like Rei in Kizuna. There's even hardly any non-H CG after Chikai.

>>8703997
>any non-H CG after Chikai

The reason for that is pretty simple, Guilty replaced all those non H cg with the orgy / multiple girl rape H cg scene's, since the number of cg's between Chikai and Urara is still more or less the same.

Guilty probably analyzed that adding more H scene's is generating them more profit, since we also don't have the shower of shame cg scene's as well.

What do you think about decreasing the number of 'victims' in the Toriko series, if it meant the rest of the female's would have more characterization / cg scene's.

Considering how the recent Toriko female's have pretty similar designs, a move like that, might not be received too badly...

>>8705675
IIRC, Guilty pretty much went with "5-ish victims per Toriko game formula since Chigiri, where we only had 2 main and 1 support victim, and it's highly unlikely they gonna change it back to old ways. I'd say, the "less characters, more development" is slowly shifting to Dash games, excluding their last game, OFC.

>>8704604
where is this from?

>>8705715
Toriko no Homura https://vndb.org/v56239 - it's one of the scene's leading up to the final story choice.

>>8705675
If it means that CG's are of the same quality an variety as the Maika ones I'd rather have less victims.

>>8706567
I like their approach if throwing other characters in different routes, so it does not mean just only one girl lose.

Do you want Guilty to attempt an old style Toriko entry?

Basically, only the female protagonist get's raped, maybe a separation into single or gangrape route's and finally some more variety in the victim's design's...

>>8708076
If only... I legit miss times of Kusari and Shirabe (the first one, nor Refrain) with mostly main characters getting broken and completely sexually annihilated in their IF endings.

I also wish we could go even further into the past, to the times of Wana, of Helter Skelter, where we also had no limits over incest, bestiality, and mature women weren't random appearances but rather took their share of dicks alongside their daughters/students.

Spartansex my favorite :D

>>8708849
Played Toriko no Urara yet? It is sorta like a modern remake plus Wana, with a literal Ep$tein Island.

>>8708880
not a fan of the art style of the newer Torikos, it's too moe

>>8708251
I think that the reason why we don't get games like Helter Skelter, has partially due to the market change, partially with the band splits that Guilty has done.

After all, the Guilty Dash band seems to focus more or on mature women (milf's)

Guilty Nightmare project seems to be about occult stuff and getting girl's get pregnant.

While the Guilty band is left with the Toriko series and the recent return of the Harame series.

Still it could be a different thing if the girl's in the Toriko would actually get pregnant, maybe then we could have bad endings were the enslaved girl teaches her "daughter" (once she grows up a little bit) about sex...

I just finished Toriko no Homura yesterday, I left the true ending route for last, I don't dislike it but it's not my favorite either, I'm not complaining about the art because I love it, Noba has been present since the first Toriko in the series and since Shirabe Refrain, Akatsuki Hijiri and Teeta J have joined so I'm used to it, the only thing I didn't like much was that Simon wasn't present in this game. Of the latest Toriko, my favorites are Toriko no Tsubasa, Toriko no Chikai, Toriko no Shimai, and Toriko no Urara. By the way, in the true ending route, this caught my attention, isn't this guy Amamiya Seiichi?

>>8711424
Yep, I don't believe he has been introduced, but I think it's a nice reference that at least Homura and Chikai / Chigiri take place in the same 'world'.

Maybe we will have some interesting crossover Toriko If scenario's, because of this...

Any tips to get Last Waltz to work?

>>8712629
Windows XP virtual machine was the only option that actually worked for me.

I haven't found any other options that worked for me.

>>8712629
Yeah I added the rioshiina-fix, then set compatibility mode to either Windows 95 or Windows 98

I don't know what has been "fixed", since I can't access the download site, but both Shimai and Omega have respectively released the version 1.0.1 and 1.0.2 patches today.

>>8712668
How many of their games need this? Genuinely asking as I never used VMs to play games, even on Linux.

>>8713287
I haven't checked them all, but generally most older guilty games (before the first Harame release date) might require this step, since they use a different engine compared to the current Guilty titles, and if those titles also have some form of DRM on them, they might not work on modern system's.

>>8695581 (OP)
>>8713136
Made a rentry patch list in case anyone has trouble assessing

https://rentry.org/8s9c5mtc

The new ones seems to be sound fixes.

What kind of personalities would you like the future female Guilty character's to have?

Personally I would be interested in seeing how a tsundere type, would work in Guilty's usual formula.

First she would show this attitude toward her 'friends' (the other female character's) - that she actually likes, but isn't honest about it...

But after she gets raped, she shift's this attitude toward dick's, as a unconscious defensive / coping mechanism...

Not to mention it would fit for the girl to have a twin tail hairstyle... which is pretty rare in Guilty games, since I only remember that Kino had that type of hairstyle...

>>8713478
thanks for making and updating this list sir

>>8714076
give me a girl who will tease and flirt just to mess around with other guys' feelings and peer pressure other girls into sexual situations for the thrill of it but she's purely acting and is actually chaste. Basically the worst friend to have in a Guilty game. Even better if she can getaway with a virgin ending while still sacrificing her friends.

pic partially related in terms of personality (but not as malicious for a Guilty game)

>>8715042
i.e. she's nowhere near as malicious as the guilty concept I'm imagining but she can be pretty damned spiteful and ruthless.