Thread 17745618

Federal troops forcibly integrated the University of Mississippi in 1962. White students were mandated by State power to accept a black student.

>>17745618 (OP)
It's a shame they didn't do this sooner

always good to be reminded that the government is illegitimate

>>17745682
Has been since 1861

student protests in the south
>states' rights
student protests in the north
>fuck my wife

>>17745618 (OP)
and 63 years later, the negroes are arguably even worse performing than they ever were. The experiment was a failure, our ancestors were correct, non whites are not our equals.

>>17745703
>the negroes are arguably even worse performing than they ever were
So being able to attend universities and colleges and actually attaining socioeconomic mobility is bad?

>The experiment was a failure, our ancestors were correct, non whites are not our equals.
Then you bitch about the nips and Chinamen all day while they occupy a ton of STEAM positions and research. This routine is getting old gramps

>>17745703
>our ancestors were correct, non whites are not our equals.
My ancestors fought to free blacks from Southern jew slavery. I would take a freed black man/woman of good christian upbringing over a redneck any day. :)

>>17745703
>non whites are not our equals.
says the guy typing on a China phone or China top

>>17745710
A trained monkey can be a valuable tool, but expecting it to ever be a man's equal will only end in suffering. That and the monkey will never be properly trained if you don't train it as such, and instead erroneously attempt to impart upon it the unattainable goal of being one of us.

>>17745718
You lost

>>17745720
go do your gay jedi larp somewhere that it may be effectual

>gay larp
>resorts to making star wars joke
oh the irony

>>17745618 (OP)
>Mississippi
LOL those retarded racist redneck traitors are close to complete ethnic replacement. The only state that is majority black iirc.

>>17745718
You aren't special, or special in a way that is meaningful.

>>17745747
never claimed to be
Luke 14:26

Sorry man, you can't just enforce segregation of people based on race while having both of said races sharing the same country. That just does not and will never make practical sense and Jim Crow laws were always selectively enforced at best. And you can thank the South for bringing so many blacks into North America as slaves to begin with, so the burden is on you.

>>17745754
>. And you can thank the South for bringing so many blacks into North America as slaves to begin with, so the burden is on you.
>The North fights a genocidal war to free blacks
>gives them rights
>Ummm akstually it was the South's fault
nice rewriting of history, Mao would be proud

>>17745749
and thus you too are monkey.

>>17745709
>So being able to attend universities and colleges and actually attaining socioeconomic mobility is bad?
That 'upward socieconomic mobility' is achieved only by universities fucking over white students by accepting blacks with lower SAT scores.The positions they'll later occupy are basically daycare for Shaniquas working for the federal government.

>Then you bitch about the nips and Chinamen all day while they occupy a ton of STEAM positions and research
IDK why you're talking about nips, our problem is chinks and jeets who get their research positions through nepotism and steal jobs Americans could do even better.

>>17745757
Slavery is not conducive to economic growth because the slaves themselves are not able to directly contribute to the economy by providing domand for the goods they provide, that's why every developed country abandoned slavery long ago.

>>17745757
Why are black people in the Americas? The South (and many other places) brought them here to be slaves. Now they are free and you must deal with the consequences.

>>17745764
No one buys your copes. At this point the more honorable thing to do to admit that you want the big state to baby you rather than take out your rage on negroes and work towards shit like I dunno cheaper education, more lenient student loans. Better work conditions and labour rights, welfare etc.

>our problem is chinks and jeets who get their research positions through nepotism and steal jobs Americans could do even better.
Again the charade has fallen and people know that expat and immigrant academics and professionals prop you up.

>>17745760
the self evidently flawed nature of that misrepresentation is now plainly obvious to all except the willfully blind

>>17745783
I think it was worth a try, giving negroes a chance, but time has proven that well intentioned sacrifice was unappreciated and unable to secure the desired effects.

>>17745783
Yeah imagine dying for liberty, you clearly wouldn't understand.

>>17745783
Tragic.

>>17745838
/thread

>>17745800
>time has proven that well intentioned sacrifice was unappreciated
By who?

>unable to secure the desired effects.
which are what?

>>17745876
>By who?
blacks

>>17745878
Low effort agitprop. Put a bit more swing into it at least

>>17745703
>and 63 years later, the negroes are arguably even worse performing than they ever were.

Uh huh.

>>17745710
>my ancestors were cucks and I too am a proud cuckold

>>17745904
Silence dixie jew

>>17745703
you will never have a real ethnostate

>>17745878
Correct, but I would be kind and say through no fault they could control. Their failings, the blacks, were due to the inherent differences between them and whites that can not be bridged due to biologically rooted evolutionary specializations which cause whites to remain the sole arbiters in the realm of all things called civilization.

>>17745925
>>17745928
Oh look its this sperg again

>>17745943
>the inherent differences between them and whites that can not be bridged due to biologically rooted evolutionary specializations which cause whites to remain the sole arbiters in the realm of all things called civilization.
Take your meds or laying off the meth pipe.

>>17745618 (OP)
This is what the founding fathers saw in their nightmares.
The America that was forged from blood in 1776 doesnt exist anymore. Now its just another generic, bureaucratic, multi ethnic empire.

>>17745949
I could dumb it down to your level, but I shouldn't have to.

>>17745956
The west wuz special rehwrpic failed once everyone e started to develop. That and the decline of infrastructure that pretty much started decades ago.

>>17745776
What I want is the opposite, you mouth breathing communist. The big state is what got us into this mess in the first place. Naturally, society is already organised more or less how I want it. Cheaper education will come after universities will stop stuffing themselves with literal human refuse, that kills, steals and cheers on their best benefactors replacement. Forceful income redistribution (what you call 'welfare') from white people to blacks is one of the most urgent problems of the West. When Africans will be deported, (it's coming. trust me) good law-abiding European stock people will be free of that burden once again.

tldr I laugh at your basic bitch proposals.

>Again the charade has fallen and people know that expat and immigrant academics and professionals prop you up.
You made it up :)

>>17745943
You can also that criminals didn't choose to be born with criminal genetics and in circumstances conducive to criminality. Whatever, it's all post-war liberal brainrot. Stop worshipping 'choice', and realise that people should be taken accountable regardless, because ultimately nothing is your choice.

>>17745737
Tyrannis illegal invasion of Northern Virginia started the War of Northern Aggression!

War was never declared by Congress.

Southern States legally seceded the same way they entered the USC.

Fort Sumter was SC soil before the USC. It reverted back to SC when they seceded. SC made several attempts to pay for the Fort Sumter before Tyrannis sent his Armada to egg on a fight.

Article 3 Section 3 Defines Treason

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

And you wonder things look like they do today?

>>17745991
The CSA was never formally recognized as an independent country. The North still considered southern states as part of the union that just so happened to be taken over by retards. Literally no other Great Power recognized them as independent and there was never any formal treaty between the CSA and any of the Great European powers that would've granted them legitimacy because by that point most European Great Powers were against slavery too.
>Southern States legally seceded
Literally not a thing. Abraham Lincoln made it pretty clear, if states could unilaterally secede, then there would be no point in having a Federal Governmen to begin with. The idea of unilateral secession is fundamentally flawed. Dixietards love comparing the Civil War to the Revolutionary War, but the Revolutionary War was preceded by the List of Grievances, a Declaration of Independence, and finally the Treaty of Paris. The south never had any comparable legal framework for secession, because they were not a legitimate country.

>>17745986
>that people should be taken accountable regardless
That's bull considering most people in positions of power dont ever really get that. Not to mention tion the sheer amount of drug abuse in their circles lmao.

>>17745618 (OP)
They didn't go far enough.

>>17745703
I'm sure cutting the few benfits they got and getting them addicted to crack had nothing to do with it.

>>17745682
You'd suck the government's cock dry if they still enforced segregation.

>>17745991
According to Lincoln, there would be no war if the central government could collect its tariffs. The problem was those states which paid the bulk of the tariffs were no longer in the union. The question of slavery in the territories was no longer relevant, as the seceded states had no connection to the territories. Therefore, the continued threats against the seceded states can only be explained by a lust for money by the banking-mercantile government interests in the North.

>>17746253
>you'd like the government if it did things you like
Wooooow. You thought that was a le epic own?

>>17745703
trvth
seething replies confirm

>>17745941
you will never have equality

>>17745896
anon...

>>17745710
> I would take a freed black man/woman
we know

>>17746276
So you admit being a morally bankrupt coward.

>>17746591
Access to White people is not a human right Tyrone

What exactly is the point of artifically keeping a section of your country's population poor.

>>17746310
This graph is only for a single city and is being dishonestly framed as being reflective of the rest of the country it seems

>>17746593
>What exactly is the point of artifically keeping a section of your country's population poor.
>the Wealthiest black areas still have more crime than the poorest White areas per 100k

>>17746602
>>the Wealthiest black areas still have more crime than the poorest White areas per 100k
You've been bullied off of several boards already for spamming this complete bullshit. You must love masochism
In any case, you can't even define what "wealthiest black area" even means, from a cursory Google search the main results that come up are either Mitchellville, Maryland or Baldwin Hills, Los Angeles and neither have anywhere close to the same crime rate as the poorest white areas of the deep south

>>17746607
>complete bullshit
>doesn't disprove it
Tyrone, your people are room temp violent apes. I'm sorry you had to learn it from me.

>>17746601
no?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/04/economic-divide-black-households/

>>17746593
segregation doesn't keep anyone poor. South Africa proved as much.

>>17746609
/pol/tranny meltdown

>>17746658
>segregation doesn't keep anyone poor
It impoverished everyone.

>South Africa proved as much.
It fell behind hard and the "well off" middle class whites still fell behind their whitw peers in Europe and NA as well as Asians.

>>17746253
That would mean the government was actually serving the interests of its people, so yes, I'd approve of it.

>>17746624
Twitter lmao

>>17746712
The racial income gap in SA in 2000s was the same as it was during Apartheid. Yes blacks were poorer but they are poorer everywhere whether it's Canada or Europe or US whether the country had segregation or not. This is a result of genetics and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Segregation didn't make blacks any poorer than they would have been in the absence of it.

>>17746713
>serving the interests of its people
It wasn't really. Elites were a heavy backer of segregation mainly since it helped protect their interests

>>17746308
If we don't have equality then why do you losers always cry about it?

>>17746722
people cry because blacks have the same household income as whites?

>>17746719
And I'm sure the rampant corruption in ZA had nothing to do with that

>>17745986
I wasn't referring to criminality, because while that is bad, it does not form the root problem causing blacks to fail to perform in spite of having achieved full equality. The fact of the matter is simple, that blacks just evolved down a different path, a path that doesn't make them capable of integrating as productive members of the civilizations whites created.

55,000 years of genetic separation is a lot and has had profound impacts on the capabilities and inclinations of both population, and that doesn't even consider the 15% of 360,000 years ago. That has created an effective evolutionary gap between whites and blacks of (360,000*0.15)+(0.85*55,000)=46,750 years. The gap is too great, the blacks can not integrate and never will for the same reasons that chimps never would either.

>I wasn't referring to criminality, because while that is bad, it does not form the root problem causing blacks to fail to perform in spite of having achieved full equality. The fact of the matter is simple, that blacks just evolved down a different path, a path that doesn't make them capable of integrating as productive members of the civilizations whites created.
>55,000 years of genetic separation is a lot and has had profound impacts on the capabilities and inclinations of both population, and that doesn't even consider the 15% of 360,000 years ago. That has created an effective evolutionary gap between whites and blacks of (360,000*0.15)+(0.85*55,000)=46,750 years. The gap is too great, the blacks can not integrate and never will for the same reasons that chimps never would either

>>17746743
>the 15% of 360,000 years ago
Archaic introgression is the curse which has destroyed any hope of blacks being able to integrate. And whites should be cautious about deciding to breed with such people, doing so created children that are wildly dysgenic to white evolutionary specialization, i.e. civilized existence.

>>17746749
>>17746755
By refusing to engage with the arguments you are conceding that you have no answer for them, and since that is what you have done, I take it that "you lost"

>>17746763
>poltranny leakge
uh oh
go shoot the walmart or bang your sister

>>17746743
>(360,000*0.15)+(0.85*55,000)=46,750 years
(360,000*0.15)+(0.85*55,000)=62,250 years

>>17745703
>do everything you can to get a bad outcome
>the outcome is bad
>this proves the outcome is bad in all cases
go back cleetus

>>17746767
not an argument, you lost

>>17746771
why should i engage in a discussion with a deranged lunatic, ridicule is all you deserve

>>17746770
>do everything you can to get a bad outcome
Everything possible was done to cause a positive outcome because it would truly be great if blacks were able to achieve seamless integration into white civilization. It was a noble and high minded effort that took enormous sacrifices by white people, but it failed due to problems no amount of charity can ever fix.

>arguing with a race that sucks dick for drug money
I've got more self respect than that.

>>17746719
>The racial income gap in SA in 2000s
You expected instant progress?

>Yes blacks were poorer but they are poorer everywhere whether it's Canada or Europe or US whether the country had segregation or not. This is a result of genetics and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
Lame cop out excuse.

>>17746773
None of the points I made were deranged, or could reasonably be called lunatic. They are well reasoned with charitable framing, so if you have no answers then you should concede your position.

>>17746775
>it would truly be great if blacks were able to achieve seamless integration into white civilization. It was a noble and high minded effort that took enormous sacrifices by white people

>>17746755
>>17746765
>>17746776
drug addiction is a destructive force effecting any race's people who engage with it. I could spam pictures of cracked out negroes, but we both know you aren't arguing in good faith here.

>>17746782
You are a racist aka deranged, evil person who judges people solely based on their looks or language/ethnicity. You don't deserve to have a normal discussion, as it would be pointless and wasted on you