Trannys are trying to Retvrn us to humanities golden age of young boy love and rightoids want it stopped. Why?

>every Aryan should remind their place
saaaar

>>17752434
No, Roman.

>>17752459
don't even think the greeks made it past the hydaspes, kurpresh maximus

>>17752430

What about Socrates? He likes boys.

>>17752463
>unsourced rightoid meme pic trying to hide the facts about bussy
Not today

>>17752332 (OP)
Greek language is Indoeuropean or "Aryan", though

>>17752478
>my rebuke?
>I won't Google to check your sources
Powerful...

>>17752492
>check the sources of retarded /pol/ bait
You can't be serious... how new are you?

>>17752332 (OP)
The Ancient Greeks didn't look like the latinx braap in your picture.

>>17752332 (OP)
White men were perceived as muscular by the Greeks.
>>17753395
They did.

>>17752332 (OP)
You mean the Greeks who were ruled over and buckbroken by
>Iranians
>Macedonians
>Romans
>Turks
>Americans

>>17752332 (OP)
We must return to tradition.

>>17753425
Cope saar, they looked like contemporary North Italians.

>>17753468
Nope.
>DNA analysis revealed that as the Roman Empire expanded around the Mediterranean Sea, immigrants from the Near East, Europe and North Africa pulled up their roots and moved to Rome

>the researchers found, but that ancestry came primarily from the Eastern Mediterranean and Near East, possibly because of denser populations there relative to the Roman Empire’s western reaches in Europe and Africa
https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2019/11/genetic-history-rome#:~:text=There%20was%20a%20massive%20shift%20in%20Roman,Empire's%20western%20reaches%20in%20Europe%20and%20Africa.&text=Later%2C%20the%20rise%20and%20reign%20of%20the,influx%20of%20central%20and%20northern%20European%20ancestry.

>>17753483
Try eating something else than cow shit and your mind will be clearer. We're obviously talking about the pre imperial Roman migration Greeks.

>>17753504
>We're obviously talking about the pre imperial Roman migration Greeks
That was not explicitly stated. I assumed you were speaking of Rome's citizens through time. Not solely the beginning.

>>17753509
You definetely need to diversify your diet from just cow shit.

>>17753520
I'm not Indian. Why would an Indian be interested in Greece. What a bizarre reply.

>>17753395
>>17753483
Ancient Greeks definitely looked like that since the bronze age, it isn't up for debate with all the published samples we have

>>17753524
I'm sorry I had no idea I was talking to an esteemed zambo.
>>17753531
My mind is fine but my nose isn't.

What actually happened

>>17753545
mental illness
>>17753546
Not a zambo either. What are you?

>>17753549
Dilate and do a flip.
>>17753553
>Ese I am Italian my great great great great grandmother had green eyes

>>17753561
You've gotten it wrong three times already. What are you? Why are you so sensitive to this topic?

>>17752332 (OP)
Ancient Greek men mostly fucked Greek boys. And all European peoples produce beautiful boys and handsome men. There's no need for this sort of division.

>>17753563
I am tired of people depicting ancient meds as Arabs when we know from ancient sources that brown and blonde hair and light eyes were common among the original inhabitants. Contemporary Italians are basically Romans but now we have this weird reverse Nordicism where "people" pretend that meds used to be swarthier.

>>17753575
Okay but why would that bother you so much. What ARE you?

>>17753579
Uzbek.

>>17753582
Okay. I don't see why an Uzbek would be THIS invested but I'll bite. You're mostly right. Romans began as white however they quickly became brown due to near east migrations along with Greeks, Berbers, and Turks. Everyone AROUND Anatolia was described as pale with light colors before this specific timeframe and it's reasonable to believe that Rome's expansion had much do with this genetic contingency. In other words, whites wuz everything until brown colonizers stole their land. Varg was right and is owed several apologies.

>>17753552
> being reduced to a slave is OK if I imagine that it's a woman doing it and it appeals to my femdom fetish
maggotskins will never beat the closeted faggot allegations
>>17753575
we have genetic data, churka boy. your boy crushes diary logs don't matter

>>17753611
What genetic data? Maybe if you dig from the slaves' mass grave you could have found some Arabs in ancient Rome.

>>17753625
>During the early years of the Roman Empire, blond hair was associated with prostitutes.[83] The preference changed to bleaching the hair blond when Greek culture, which practiced bleaching, reached Rome, and was reinforced when the legions that conquered Gaul returned with blond slaves.[84]

>>17753634
>The people bleached their hair to look more like slaves
>They totally weren't trying to look like the nobility even though we know many Roman emperors had light hair
Nice Arab revisionism.

>>17753651
>Sherrow also states that Roman women tried to lighten their hair, but the substances often caused hair loss, so they resorted to wigs made from the captives' hair.[85]

>>17753611
>who cares my wife fucks the slaves behind my back??? Certainly not me!!!

>From an ethnic point of view, Roman authors associated blond and red hair with the Gauls and the Germans: e.g., Virgil describes the hair of the Gauls as "golden" (aurea caesaries),[90] Tacitus wrote that "the Germans have fierce blue eyes, red-blond hair (rutilae comae), huge (tall) frames";[91] in accordance with Ammianus, almost all the Gauls were "of tall stature, fair and ruddy".[92]

>Ausonius, a poet and tutor from Burdigala, wrote a poem about an Alemanni slave girl named Bissula, whom he had recently freed after she'd been taken as a prisoner of war in the campaigns of Valentinian I, noting that her adopted Latin language marked her as a woman of Latium yet her blond-haired, blue-eyed appearance ultimately signified her true origins from the Rhine.[97]

Another episode of some shitskin obsessing over white people.

>The Goths, a Germanic tribe who played a central role in the Fall of the Western Roman Empire through their conquest, were always described in ancient sources as tall and athletic, with light skin, yellow (blond) hair and blue eyes,[99][100] The contemporary Greek scholar and historian Procopius noted of the Goths: "they all have white bodies and fair hair, and are tall and handsome to look upon."[101]
>>17753688
You are a muslim.

>The Greeks thought of the Thracians who lived to the north as having reddish-blond hair.[75] Because many Greek slaves were captured from Thrace, slaves were stereotyped as blond or red-headed.[75] "Xanthias" (Ξανθίας), meaning "reddish blond", was a common name for slaves in ancient Greece[75][76]

>Additionally, the ancient Greek lyric poet Bacchylides wrote of "the blonde daughters of the Lacedaemonians" (Spartans),[78] while also noting the golden hair of athletes at the Nemean Games.[79]

>Greek prostitutes frequently dyed their hair blond using saffron dyes or colored powders.[82] Blond dye was highly expensive, took great effort to apply, and smelled repugnant,[82] but none of these factors inhibited Greek prostitutes from dying their hair.[82] As a result of this and the natural rarity of blond hair in the Mediterranean region, by the fourth century BC, blond hair was inextricably associated with prostitutes.[82] The comic playwright Menander (c. 342/41–c. 290 BC) protests that "no chaste woman ought to make her hair yellow".[82] At another point, he deplores blond hair dye as dangerous: "What can we women do wise or brilliant, who sit with hair dyed yellow, outraging the character of gentlewomen, causing the overthrow of houses, the ruin of nuptials, and accusations on the part of children?"[82]

>Men with pale or light skin, leukochrōs (λευκόχρως, "white-skinned") could be considered weak and effeminate by Ancient Greek writers such as Plato and Aristotle.[57] According to Aristotle, "Those whose skin is too dark are cowardly: witness Egyptians and the Ethiopians. Those whose skin is too light are equally cowardly: witness women. The skin colour typical of the courageous should be halfway between the two."[58]

>>17753672
>Scandis and Germans were fairer than Italians
>Therefore the Italians must have looked like Araabs instead of like modern Italians
Mentally defective dalit.

>>17753657
Isn't cuck shit super popular in the middle east?

>Similarly, Xenophon of Athens describes Persian prisoners of war as "white-skinned because they were never without their clothing, and soft and unused to toil because they always rode in carriages" and states that Greek soldiers as a result believed "that the war would be in no way different from having to fight with women."[59][60]
>>17753731
Rome =/= Italy
>dalit
Sybau

>male warriors like Odysseus were usually described as having brown or bronzed skin, unless attention was being brought to skin that was vulnerable to injury in battle.[62][63]

>Herodotus described the Scythian Budini as having deep blue eyes and bright red hair[73] and the Egyptians – quite like the Colchians – as melánchroes (μελάγχροες, "dark-skinned") and curly-haired.[74] He also gives the possibly first reference to the common Greek name of the tribes living south of Egypt, otherwise known as Nubians, which was Aithíopes (Αἰθίοπες).[75] Later Xenophanes of Colophon described the Aethiopians as black and snub-nosed and the Thracians as having red hair and blue eyes.[76] In his description of the Scythians, Hippocrates states that the cold weather "burns their white skin and turns it ruddy."[77][78]

>>17753735
Knew it was a jeet. Take a shower.

>>17753762
I'm making fun of you for using their terminology you mongol rapebaby muslim brainlet. I already said this. You are going to speak to people who'll tell you you're wrong that aren't a part of some niche cultural conflict on some bumfuck meaningless part of the world. As far as I'm concerned, the two of you are the exact same shit. One just smells worse. You're low IQ, invasive, and otherwise tribal. You assume anyone you dislike to be the other because of little cognitive creativity or insight and I would gladly watch the two of you kill each other in droves. Jeets are rapists regardless of caste and muslims are the most violent people on the planet. It's vile subhuman cretins like you that imposed that ridiculous shit onto them. YOU are the reason they are that way. A reverse of the influence Mediterraneans had on Germanics where they brought sophisticated civilization and human rights to them. You are the anti-Med and will never have anything in common with them ever. You will never have civilization. You will never have peace. You will never have innovations to bring to others. You are not civil. You are a threat to civilization and everyone knows it. I spit on you.

>>17753778
If you're a Med, why are you pretending that the Ancient Romans were Araabs?

>>17753791
Arab is not a race. Arabs didn't exist then. I am just explaining genetic relations between modern and ancient populations.

>>17753796
You're lying with an agenda though. Repeat after me: "Modern Italians look like Romans.".

>>17753804
Prove it.

>>17753806
Every single source saying that the Emperors had dirty blonde hair, Romans and Greeks often talking about tanning in the sun, Greek statues which were painted with a pinkish skin and blonde hair. How about you improve your diet of cow shit.

>>17753827
>Every single source saying that the Emperors had dirty blonde hair
Give your sources and I'll give mine.
>How about you improve your diet of cow shit
You are the same thing.

>>17753395
>latinx braap
They wished they look like that. It is a purely South-Eastern European phenotype with similar types in West Asia.

>>17752332 (OP)
Blond Hair is principally Nordic, not Aryan.

>>17753871
Swarthy Europeans have a subtly different skin tone.

>>17753395
Holy cope

>>17753651
Lmao, the "Nordic elite" cope again, pure scandinasian revisionism. Romans had barbarian slaves, barbarian Germanic women served as sex slaves so much that whores began dying their hair blonde. Get over it amerimutt, it's fact.

>>17753895
Where did I say that they were Nordic? Many Italians have light eyes and hair. Also why the fuck would the woman want to look like prostitutes? Dumb latinx.

>>17753827
>every single source shows emperor's had dirty blonde hair
Gonna need a source on that delusion queer. Also lmao at all statues having blonde hair lmao where do you get this shit

>>17753657
*ERRRRRRRRRRRR* WRONG! what I said was:
> cite your sources instead of passing off your femdom fantasies as a fact
>>17753732
the only known cuckolds loitering in Middle East were of foreign steppenig/wh*te origin: mitanni, turks, and hittites. the mainstreaming of cuckoldry started in Europe.
>But the ideas and language are nothing new; in fact, it was during the Renaissance, from the 16th to the 18th centuries, that Europe had a cultural obsession with cuckoldry. Back then, it was widely believed that women were more lustful than men, largely because they were subject to the whims of their "wandering womb"
in Islam, everyone involved in adultery gets stoned. you think they held the Holy Land by being passive faggots like you?
>>17753625
i hope your illiterate churka ass knows what this means

>>17753468
They didn't. Greeks resembled modern south Italians and Greek islanders.

>>17753827
>WE WUZ

Romans literally passed laws to make their whores dye their hair blond to mock whites lol

>>17752332 (OP)
Get a job.

>>17753575
No one cares what you think

>>17754020
The dump known as "holy land" was conquered by the Brits who handed it over to the jews. So Thanks for admitting you're cucks.

>>17752332 (OP)
Here's my thread about the Greek genetic history, you mind enjoy it:
>>17717684
It goes quite in depth.

>>17753468
>>17754037
>Cope saar, they looked like contemporary North Italians.
True.

>>17754119
Can you please describe the algorithm behind PCA.

>>17753905
>lmao
>lmao
Could you be any more clear that you're crying like a bitch.

>>17752463
There's literally an argument for pederasty in Symposium (written by Plato, featuring Socrates).

>>17754124
You sound mad. I can feel you shaking incel lmao. Drink a glass of water.

>>17754123
>Can you please describe the algorithm behind PCA.
What do you mean by algorithm?
I used this website: https://vahaduo.github.io/custompca/

>>17754121
>north macedonia
>not even macedonia proper
greek civilization was brown

>>17754119
>It goes quite in depth.
Shit thread. There aren't any northern europeans in ancient greece, in any shape or forms. At best there's balcanoids resembling modern northern greeks or central/north italians

>>17754215
>There aren't any northern europeans in ancient greece, in any shape or forms.
What about the Yamnaya admixture that appears first during the Mycenaean period, and keeps growing century after century?
The Slavs appeared in Europe much later than that.
Even (((mainstream))) science agrees with this.

>>17754241
yamnaya isn't northern european and it was mediated through the ethnic groups mentioned above. It doesn't keep growing, it stays stable at around 20%

>>17754241
Yamnaya are more churkas than north euros

>>17754121
Those are Macedonians who were barely considered Greek by core Greeks, or Thraco-Illyrian Paeonians.
>>17754037
True.

>>17752492
>uh it's not MY responsibility to prove my point

>>17754248
>It doesn't keep growing, it stays stable at around 20%
mhm.

>>17754314
>Those are Macedonians who were barely considered Greek by core Greeks, or Thraco-Illyrian Paeonians.
Genetically, they were the same.

Similar how modern Poland and Russia have a lot of differences - religion, alphabet, language, but genetically, it's very close.

>>17752332 (OP)
Its interesting to see that of the med browns only shitalians have self-conscious white-envy while grecoids are okay with being brown, and ibericucks are just actively seeking the light extinguished.

>>17755079
>turkey
>russia
100 % lusting after natashas

>>17755060
You used north macedonians (not even greek proper) and some balcanoid outliers invading crete. The other published samples post mycenean are around 20%, It's time to drop the copium

>>17754124
I accept your concession monkey, keep making shit up to cope that you're a we wuz loser

>>17755079
>source: my asshole

>>17755091
>greek proper

"Proper" borders are not settled by 19th century squabbles you rube.

>>17755445
Samples from the modern area of fyrom are not relevant to the discussion, ancient greeks were way below geographycally.

>>17754212
What are you trying to say with pic related

>>17752332 (OP)
As a 5'3 med manlet... arent swede twinks like 5'11" before they mature to 6'2 chads?

>>17752332 (OP)
there's something hilarious about white supremacists celebrating ancient greece when they easily the most homosexual civilization of the bronze age

>>17754129
BTW if you bother to finish that dialogue you will see that Socrates' argument is that a there should NEVER be any sex between a mentor and a mentee. Incidentally this is also why we have the term "Platonic love".
Socrates also mentions a number of regions in Greece where pederasty is socially or even legally forbidden. Even here it is important to remember the ambiguity between pederasty as a mentorship relationship, and pederasty in the sexual sense, which by no means always went together.

>>17756388
Obviously Socrates spoke against it, he's very much about ignoring the bodily and material in favor of the spiritual. The point is that Plato wrote this good argument for it, presented by a "good" character in the story, and not by a villain to be dismantled. It wasn't a weird fringe view, it was an accepted norm. In the Overton Window, so to speak.