Thread 17752628

>"You can't have sex before marriage"
okay but what if I masturbate?
>"nope, can't do that either!"
but what if I have a wet dream?
>"Those are the demons spilling your seed!"
okay so what if I just cut my balls off and become a castrato or something?
>"That's perfectly acceptable and encouraged in the Bible according to Mathew 19:12"
people fell for this for over 2000 years by the way

>>17752628 (OP)
>I hate God because i want to play with my willy

>>17752632
>God gives me a willy and punishes me for wanting to use it

>>17752635
you're not swaying anyone towards your side with this.

>>17752639
Cope, every single leader of your religion is a virgin by law. I think I've more than made my point here

>>17752628 (OP)
to be fair this all made more sense when everyone knew Jesus came to save white people. With that understanding, anything you do to make white people die out is "sinful"

So get married and have kids, or if you want to dedicate your life to the cause of spreading the good news then you could remain celibate since being a father with a wife is a major commitment.

>>17752649
1.) Jesus didn't make these rules, the Old Testament Jews did

2.) This is also a bad argument for why you're punished for having children before formal marriage (as opposed to Common Law Marriage)

>>17752628 (OP)
Have you tried getting married and having sex with your wife? I've heard it's pretty neat.

>>17752659
having kids outside marriage makes your people weaker because the union between a man and woman in marriage assures the kids will have the greatest chances for survival and success.

>>17752689
>having kids outside marriage makes your people weaker
Why?

>>17752628 (OP)
Bad News Atheists: God Exists. Spoiler alert, there is only one way this ends and it's with you unconditionally surrendering. You lost. Better get comfortable with that and because you aren't going to enjoy hell. So you might want to think twice about being an ass-monkey sodomite. But we all know you hate God. Great, I might proffer a suggestion for your new religion: Your father was a fish. You evolved from an egg laid in water fertilized by a sperm fish. Maybe you should worship a fish god. Idiots.

>>17752705
>because the union between a man and woman in marriage assures the kids will have the greatest chances for survival and success.

>>17752628 (OP)
What's hilarious is this means Catholics priests aren't allowed to orgasm for their entire life

>>17752709
>Maybe you should worship a fish god. Idiots.
Poseidon it is then

>>17752711
But why is formal marriage necesarry for this? Why can't people simply form close bonds with eachother otherwise?

>>17752725
Because being a part of the body of Christ means protection for your family and children, ensuring the greatest possible chances for survival. This is of course only applicable when the church is formed of whites only with the understanding that it is for their survival that they must form the body in his name.

These days though, the heretical hell, there is literally no point.

>>17752733
>"Why is formal marriage necesarry?"
>"Because being a part of the body of Christ means protection for your family and children"
>"But why is formal marriage necesarry?"
>"Because being a part of the body of Christ means protection for your family and children"

>>17752744
Oh, I see... you are either pretending to be retarded or are actually retarded.

>>17752753
Come back when you actually have a real answer bud

I love how none of the Christards are arguing over the fact that cutting your balls off is literally enouraged in the bible

>>17752720
*except in underage boys

>>17752628 (OP)
I mean, obviously, just look at Jesus himself.

>>17752761
One of the most important early church fathers was a famed eunuch because of Matthew 19:12. Christians today conveniently leave that part out of most discussions of Origen.

>>17752761
>>17752785
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skoptsy
christianity is the forefather of BLM and LGBT

>>17752785
>Origen, however, never mentions anything about having castrated himself in any of his surviving writings.[38][49] In his explanation of this verse in his Commentary on the Gospel of Matthew, written near the end of life, he strongly condemns any literal interpretation of Matthew 19:12,[38] asserting that only an idiot would interpret the passage as advocating literal castration.[38]

You bastards are nothing but liars.

>>17752756
>a real answer
>>17752733
>protection for your family and children, ensuring the greatest possible chances for survival

>>17752801
Origen never actually said this. This comes from The Westminster Handbook to Origen (not a primary source) written in 2004 in which Orthodox Priest John McGuckin makes this an argument but it's dishonestly framed in this wikipedia article as if Origen himself said this. Always check your sources people

>>17752801
Peak Christcope and completely anti-historical

>>17752628 (OP)
>OP can't into self-control
>calls others weak
the Self-awareness is ASTONISHING, are you a bug?

>What's this? Your penis is erect and sensitive because you dared glance over at a female with a voluptuous ass and tits???
>And you *gasp*! TOUCHED YOUR PENIS??
>You lack self control I'm going insaaaaane!

>>17753017
Why would you touch your penis when you could have her do it for you? Fucking fruitcake, oh right you don't talk to women

>>17753019
Why would he have her do it for him when he could instead just ask if she wanted him to do it himself and cum on her face? I bet you feel rather silly now kid

>>17753017
>>17753025
>describing a girl as voluptuous
Oh yeah bro, that's totally gonna get women wet, keep at it anon!

>>17753073
thick thighs save lives

>>17752628 (OP)
>"Those are the demons spilling your seed!"
not in the Bible, but anyways;
the first commandment God gave man was "be fruitful and multiply"
And, in the Bible it is written
>marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled

if you can't find a wife to have sex with, what you're actually frustrated with is the godless degenerate society you find yourself in.

>>17753087
>if you can't find a wife to have sex with, what you're actually frustrated with is the godless degenerate society you find yourself in.
You say this as if being a Christian is some magical one-way ticket to losing your V-card bro, there are plenty of Christian virgins, in fact you kinda have to be a virgin to even be a high ranking church member

>>17753092
>You say this as if being a Christian is some magical one-way ticket to losing your V-card bro
no.
but a Christian society is the best society. when society is healthy, marriage is common. for example, Christianity teaches that a woman's virginity is of great value. As well as that fornication is wicked enough to kick someone out of church over. Amongst other good things.

>>17753098
>Christianity teaches that a woman's virginity is of great value.
In no society has this rule ever been strictly followed and you know it

>>17753092
>>17753098
I should clarify that I myself am not a virgin and have been a fornicator. What I can say is that sex is worthless without marriage.

>>17753102
uh yeah I know.
is your argument just
>people aren't perfect therefore rules have no value
???

>>17753107
My argument is that Christianity is not in an of itself some magical solution to societies problems

>>17753115
Rules that work aren't magical, no.
But in my neck of the woods, historically, the rules worked.

>>17753092
>You say this as if being a Christian is some magical one-way ticket to losing your V-card bro,
That's not at all what he's implying. You're extrapolating i.e. hallucinating.
>in fact you kinda have to be a virgin to even be a high ranking church member
No, in fact, just the opposite. The bishop of a church MUST be married and MUST have children. Likewise a deacon MUST be married. You're simply lying or, more likely, conflating the satanic religion of Catholicism with actual Christianity as specified by the New Testament in the King James Bible. Ready to admit you're wrong?

>>17753124
>Rules that work aren't magical
But they don't work. Do you think whore houses and Tijuana Bibles weren't a thing when that pic was taken? Deep down the Church is probably glad there are so many sinner because otherwise they would have no charity work to be done and nobody to corral into a church to absolve them of sin

>>17753126
>You're simply lying or, more likely, conflating the largest Christian sect with actual Christianity
Yes how silly of me to do this

>>17753149
Catholicism isn't Christianity. This is so basic.

>>17753158
Then by your own admission the Satanists won, and they won by a fucking landslide too
>Catholics
Satan
>Muslims
Satan
>Atheists
Satan
Purity spiraling is not helping your cause

>>17753180
>Then by your own admission the Satanists won, and they won by a fucking landslide too
Having more numbers isn't winning, when you all go to Hell to burn, forever. The Bible is clear that the vast majority of people are going to Hell, and only a few will find the strait and narrow path. Are you stupid?
>Purity spiraling
No, sorry, I have to take that away from you. This is a railing accusation based solely on your desire to condemn a child of God for an imaginary sin. I'm simply applying definitions from the Bible.

>>17753185
>The Bible is clear that the vast majority of people are going to Hell
Then God effectively hates humanity, he statistically speaking hates you to

>>17753092
>>17753126
>>17753158
>>17753185
Why are baptists so retarded?

>>17753187
>he statistically speaking hates you to
You're pretending like there isn't extra information that makes the statistics irrelevant. You are incredibly poor at reasoning. The fact is, God loves me and I'm going to Heaven forever when I die physically. By the sound of it, you can't say the same. Enjoy Hell, I guess.

>>17753192
>I hate God's people.
Have fun burning.

>>17752641
nta but I'm confused
are (you) insinuating Christianity promotes castration?
Because that's been deboonked at least 1700 years ago at the Council of Nicaea

>>17753251
Mathew 19:12
>NIV
12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
>ESV
12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let the one who is able to receive this receive it.”
>KJV
12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
>NRSVUE
12 For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.”
>ASV
12 For there are eunuchs, that were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are eunuchs, that were made eunuchs by men: and there are eunuchs, that made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

I'm sick of you cocksuckers trying to claim this was some misinterpretation of the word "eunich" because if it was it would've been translated differently. People working in Seminary are a lot smarter than you are. Get over it.

>>17753264
>"The one who can accept this should accept it.”
what is your religion?

>>17753271
Oh my religion is the one that thinks their interpretation of the Bible is always 100 percent correct and that your interpretation of the Bible is always 100 percent incorrect. That should really narrow it down

>>17753273
so you're a jew engaging in some good old pilpul and d&c
great work, keep it up
I wish I could tip you a shekel, but I can't

>>17753278
You're part of a clown religion

>>17753287
not remotely as clownish as (yours) moshi

>>17753302
Over half of your bible is the Hebrew Bible

>>17753264
It's a metaphor and you know it.
A eunuch, literally, is someone castrated. How is someone castrated at birth? By whom?
It's not as though Jesus spoke in metaphors all the time *rolls eyes*

>>17753354
>How is someone castrated at birth? By whom?
Are you actually retarded? Androgyny is something you can be born with do to genetic mutation

>>17752628 (OP)
>>17752635
>>17752641
>>17752659
i wonder who's behind this thread?

>>17753364
>Its DA JOOZ who are always shitting on my Jewish sect
Meds

Yeah that’s why all the best boxers are Christian.

>>17753362
Oh, so it's a metaphor. Thanks.

>>17752635
This has swayed me towards your side

>>17753369
I know this isn't going to mean anything coming from some anonymous literal who but most of the time they're Christian-in-name-only. I don't know anything about boxing but I do know some MMA guys personally and they like putting on this trad persona while talking about jacking off on podcasts and shit. They're just hypocrites, so I always take something like that with a huge grain of salt.

>>17753354
>By whom?
Well according to Christians, probably God himself

>>17753311
the least important half
and talmudfreaks don't follow OT either
they make up shit as they go because they're a bunch of scammers and shysters

>>17754279
>Genesis isn't important
Have fun burning!

>>17753302
>Fooled God.
God commands them to do so to remove the pollution caused by sin from themselves and from the land. To attone for the sins committed.

>>17754721
Well they aren't sacrificing enough because nobody is convinced they feel bad about being shitty people.