Thread 17773053

They only ever defeated Rushits, chinks, and other steppeniggers, and mainly because they had greater numbers. Whenever they fought real warriors like the Mamluks or the Delhi sultanate they lost hard.

>>17773053 (OP)
They were great on the strategical level but no so great in the tactical level
Normes tend to forgot too much about the strategical level

>>17773053 (OP)
The Mamluks and Delhi Sultanate were both run by displaced and Islamicized steppe Turks though
it takes a nomad to beat a nomad

>>17773702
Mamluks were more multiethnic and they used other tactics aswell
Not just steppeniggery

>>17773053 (OP)
They would have crushed Rome

>>17773702
Mamluks, especially the ones who created the mamluk sultanate, were a diverse class of slave soldiers that didn’t have much connection to their roots other than maybe the language. if you calculate the numbers of possible Mamluks it’s between 10 to 20 thousand at most. That number is not enough to defeat the Mongols. The locals, either as Bedouins who get awarded with money and land by the Mamluks to fight with them and volunteers played a big parts in these victories.

>>17774126
>an middle medieval army would have crushed an ancient army
No shit retard
There is something called technogoly
>>17774127
Also this
They werent only turks and caucasians

>>17773053 (OP)
>>17774127
>>17774187
Can you tell us what happened to Baghdad now, Ahmed?

>>17774203
>one defeat of an already dead stare mean muslims never defeated mongols
Kys dishonest subhuman

>>17774187
>technogoly
Never heard of it, do you mean technology?

>>17774203
Baghdad was a city-state by that point, everything before that was just steppenigger-controlled Persia.

>>17774203
>Ahmed
Absolute majority of post mongol states were Muslim

>Mamluks or the Delhi sultanate
The Delhi Sultanate were Mamluks, Ranjesh. It wasn't 'jeets defending India, it was one set of foreign conquerors defending their acquisitions from another.

>>17773053 (OP)
Don’t forget the Chad Hungarians, who managed to humiliate the steppe niggers

>>17774597
Nobody said they were indian you retarded faggot and they must have used some indian auxiliaries
Just like mamluks in egypt had bedoin auxiliaries

>>17773053 (OP)
>>17774744
The Mongols raped and killed half of Hungary's population in their first invasion after winning the battle of Mohi.

Mongols won Legnica against German Knights of the Holy Roman empire.

>>17774127
The Mongols BTFO Arabs all over Iraq and Syria.

>were a diverse class of slave soldiers that didn’t have much connection to their roots other than maybe the language.

Bullshit.

The Bahri Mamluks who fought the Mongols were all Qipchaq Turks and Circassians didn't take over until centuries later.

>>17774770
Also the Mongol Berke Khan helped the Mamluks fight his cousin Hulagu Khan.

Berke ordered his loyalists in the Ilkhanate to defect to the Mamluks in Egypt, they became the Wafidiyya.

>>17774744
Or the Lithuanians, of all people.

>>17773053 (OP)
>Mongols pushed through all of Muslim land until Egypt before finally being beaten
Plus they were pretty much always outnumbered

>>17773053 (OP)

Kublai Khan gave Korean wives to Han Chinese Southern Song soldiers who would defect to the Yuan dynasty/Mongol empire.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=b3sMAQAAMAAJ&q=%22court+sent+a+special+envoy+to+Korea+to+select+women+for+soldiers+of+the+South-+ern+Chinese+.+Yuan+sent+a+barbarian+betrothal+envoy+named+Xiao+Yu+to+Korea.+The+letter+from+the+Central+Government+read:+%22The+soldiers+of+the+Xiangyang+prefecture+of+the+Southern+Song+request+wives,+therefore+we+send+envoy+Xiao+Yu+to+the+Kory%C5%8F+State%22+%22semu+soldiers+but+only+for+the+newly+-+submissive+soldiers+of+the+Southern+Song+.+Why+did+he+not+select+women+from+China+proper+so+that+the+couples+would+have+had+a+common+cultural+...+Korean+Tribute+Women+in+Mongol+Yuan+Dynasty+101.%22&dq=%22court+sent+a+special+envoy+to+Korea+to+select+women+for+soldiers+of+the+South-+ern+Chinese+.+Yuan+sent+a+barbarian+betrothal+envoy+named+Xiao+Yu+to+Korea.+The+letter+from+the+Central+Government+read:+%22The+soldiers+of+the+Xiangyang+prefecture+of+the+Southern+Song+request+wives,+therefore+we+send+envoy+Xiao+Yu+to+the+Kory%C5%8F+State%22+%22semu+soldiers+but+only+for+the+newly+-+submissive+soldiers+of+the+Southern+Song+.+Why+did+he+not+select+women+from+China+proper+so+that+the+couples+would+have+had+a+common+cultural+...+Korean+Tribute+Women+in+Mongol+Yuan+Dynasty+101.%22&;;

>court sent a special envoy to Korea to select women for soldiers of the South- ern Chinese . Yuan sent a barbarian betrothal envoy named Xiao Yu to Korea. The letter from the Central Government read:

>The soldiers of the Xiangyang prefecture of the Southern Song request wives, therefore we send envoy Xiao Yu to the Koryŏ State"

>semu soldiers but only for the newly - submissive soldiers of the Southern Song . Why did he not select women from China proper so that the couples would have had a common cultural ... Korean Tribute Women in Mongol Yuan Dynasty 101."

>>17774971

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13277598/#q13277705


Korean history under the Mongol empire

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13220256/#q13220256

>>13220256

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10828773/#q10828773

>>10828773

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13043204/#q13043204

>>13043204

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13067378/#q13067627

>13067627 >13071844

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12011702/#q12011702

>12011702

>13277598
No.>13231351
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9505389/#q9508255

>9508255

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13205503/#q13208522

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13089506/#q13092548

>13092548

>>17773053 (OP)

read
>>17608849


Mongols sold their own children as slaves to Han Chinese during the Yuan dynasty

https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13220256/#q13220278

The four class system in the Yuan never banned interracial marriage of upper classes women to the "lower classes".

Northern Han generals married Mongol women and Southern Han soldiers married Korean women (supposedly from the "higher class")

The four class system regulated quotas in examinations, government positions.

>>17608854
>>17608857


https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17388491/#q17388491