objectively correct.
also not against the rules because I didn't rank any post 2000 president

>>17778413 (OP)
How tf do you have Lincoln in F with the bull moose in S

>>17778416
Lincoln suspended habus corpus, jailed journalists and was one of the only presidents to have forced conscription. Teddy built the panama canal, beat the shit out of known banker jp mogan and stole his trains leaving morgan to hold the bag, kept the US out of foreign wars, made the national parks, won the noble piece prize, created the FDA, built up the US navy and then used that to project power in the rest of the world and generally fucked bankers whenever he could

>>17778413 (OP)
>deport the french adams
>not F tier
>this shall not stand bush
>not F tier
>vietnam kennedy
>not F tier
>nuke the japs truman
>not S tier
>no nukes on chinks truman
>not F tier
>big johnson johnson
>not S tier
>amnesty reagan
>not F tier
What a dog fucking shit list

>reagan, ford, sr, carter over nixon

>>17778450
nixon ended the gold standard

>Wilson and FDR F
LARP. Go back to watching South Park and eating corn syrup flakes, hylic.

>>17778413 (OP)

>>17778499
two of the all time worst presidents. both conscripted American boys into slave armies to die in foreign wars. terrible fdr scotus. wilson created the federal reserve and basically every bad thing happening today is a direct result of those 2
>>17778500
Washington, teddy and jackson too low.
obongo, fdr, wilson, brandon, clinton, truman and el bj too high

>>17778413 (OP)
>the retard who scooped up the entire West in a false-flag glownigger war that ensured the debate over the Constitutionality of slavery would be rammed down the countries throat and brought on civil war was... LE BASED
I swear to god, if you say it's because "he accomplished everything he wanted"...

>>17778446
>deport the French Adams
Retarded take
>vietnam kennedy
>nuke the japs truman
>big johnson johnson
All objectively correct takes

>>17778413 (OP)
I don't think any one person possessed the knowledge to actually make one of these accurate

>>17778544
No degree of objectivity will ever stand up to the concentrated ignorance that /his/tards bring to this board. It will always be "Wilson was le bad because had made WWI happen" or "Polk is le heckin S tier because died after one term" type shit with these retards

>>17778542
polk was based, you are a turbo smooth brained retard if you think fdr and wilson were anything but the worst of the worst
>>17778551
polk did everything he said he would and wilson created the federal reserve you retarded faggot

>>17778567
>polk did everything he said
>>>/reddit/

>>17778573
promises made promises kept.
meanwhile FDR said he would not send American boy into foreign wars right before being the third president to impress American boys into a slave army and the second president to take said slave army and make them die in a foreign war

>>17778590
>FDR's """slave army"""" LE BAD
>Polk's bullshit glownigger war that saw the army used to expand actual slavery LE BASED because... because it just was okay?!?!
Uh-huh

>>17778599
Polk didn't impress any Americans into a slave army. and he btfo'd and humiliated mexico while taking their clay and expanding the US
FDR took American boys from their mothers and forced them to die in a slave army on the other side of the world

>>17778509
You can't read tier lists
There are only two tiers to this, everyone in peak is equal and everyone in ass is equal

>>17778664
I know, fdr is worse than ass

>>17778673
Ohhh lol

t. someone who has actually studied every presidency

>>17778786
>Reagan and Nixon near the bottom
>Wilson, FDR and LBJ near the top
commie swine

>>17778786
truman too high, wilson too high, el bj too high, fdr too high
every 20th century dem was shit

>>17778790
>Nixon and Reagan selling US manufacturing to the chinks wasn't commie shit
Negative IQ take

>>17778831
>Harry "comes the Sun" Truman
>shit
I'd ask why, but I already know you're going to come back with the most NPC-tier response like "hurrrrr duh Fed durrrr"

>>17778835
Reagan destroyed the evil empire

>>17778835
truman conscripted Americans to die in Korea, desegregated the army, started the world police shit, expanded the power of the executive, created the CIA and recognized israel

>>17778839
>Reagan destroyed the US
wtf I love Ronnie Raygun now

>>17778852
>wwwaaaaaahhhh desegregation is why I can't sneed wwwaaahhhh
>wwwaaaaahhhh he recognized the place that has kept the sandniggers in check ever since wwwaaaahhhhh
Cry me a river faggot

>>17778871
you are one gay yuro retard

>>17778889
Born and raised as an amerimutt faggot. Try again

>>17778871
>the US

>>17778892
you got the faggot part right, you were raised as a faggot, but not an American

>>17778413 (OP)
This list is hot garbage for the most part but OP is on to something with Polk, Jackson, Coolidge in particular being criminally underrated
James Monroe was a bit of drip apparently but I think people wildly overestimate how much raw intelligence plays in being POTUS
Also, in discussions of the history of US politics the obligation to completely overlook how terrible a President Lincoln was and rate him very high because HE FREED DA SLAVUSE DURRRRRRR needs to become much more common
This list was made and posted by some rando on 4chan but I think there are trends here which are going to become much more common in popular discussions of US presidents ie LBJ, FDR, Truman as being among some of our worst Presidents but because of some, very old, segment of our population views those eras through rose tinted glasses they get wildly overrated
Tldr; George Washington is the undisputed GOAT and always will be
"Me and the homies would have been stacking bodies by now." ~George Washington

>>17778896
>yyyessssss I love consooming chink garbage AMURRICA!!!

>>17778905
>it's another chud larps as a nazi despite being the kind of dysgenic waste Shitler sent to the chambers first moment
What rural shithole in a flyover state are you from?

>17778925
Cringiest zoomer post I've seen in a while.

>>17778943
nah, I'm calling you out as an obvious yuro you yuro cuck. zero chance you are American

>>17778963
>hurrr you're a yuro durrr
Compelling argument as to why you're not an inbred mutt

>>17778970
so you admit you are a lying faggot. got it

>>17778953
>Cringiest zoomer post I've seen in a while.

>FUCK the Whigs
>FUCK the Democrats
>nigga I AM the President
Y'all sleeping on my boy, Tyler

>>17778551
>"Wilson was le bad because had made WWI happen"
Wilson was bad because he didn't enter WWI soon enough

>>17778413 (OP)
Einsenhower and collidge good. And somehow Richard Nixon and Clinton F?

>>17779413
nixon took us off the gold standard and clinton sent all the jobs to china, murdered US citizens and did the AWB and brady bill

>>17779407
>Wilson was bad because he didn't enter WWI soon enough
This
Wilson was a condescending moron who had absolutely no business visiting the White House let alone running it

>>17778413 (OP)
>Nixon in F
>Jimmy Carter anywhere above F

>>17780732
>causing the oil embargo crisis of the '70's and tanking the economy for a solid decade shouldn't put you in F tier
Explain

>>17780732
nixon took us off the gold standard so he goes in F.
I probably ranked carter too high but I put him in C because he objectively isn't part of the global homo banking cartel because when they were at HWs funeral carter was the only one not to get a letter from the bankers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv18jIq7-NE

>>17780855
Take your fucking meds you schizo retard

>>17780859
eat shit you gay aids infected homosexual retard faggot

>mfw the US could have been on Mars by now if it wasn't for those krautniggers in Pennsylvania falling for the j*ffersonian propaganda

>>17781481
jackson and coolidge too low
FDR, Wilson, HW, nixon, truman, el bj, quincy adams, reagan, obongo, johnson, biden, clinton, and buchanon too high
also how is henry harrison d tier, he was dead in 30 days

>>17778786
No, that's a humanities class, not history.

>>17781498
>jackson and coolidge too low
Not really. Jackson is in the top 20, which is high. Coolidge is brought down by his horrible Treasury and Fed appointees, who really bungled any hope of avoiding or mitigating the Depression.
>FDR, Wilson, HW, nixon, truman, el bj, quincy adams, reagan, obongo, johnson, biden, clinton, and buchanon too high
They're all placed in the tiers they should be. It may be possible to move them one or two positions, but I think it's about perfect.
>also how is henry harrison d tier, he was dead in 30 days
F tier indicates they did significant damage to the country or the world or were powerless to stop it.

>>17781558
jackson and coolidge were based. FDR, wilson, el bj and obongo need to be in f tier. they were all terrible and damaged the US

>>17781565
>FDR, wilson
They objectively made America far stronger than it was at the start of their terms.
>el bj
LBJ is hurt massively by his terrible foreign policy, but was one of our greatest presidents domestically.
>obongo
Likewise, Obama's foreign policy was generally terrible, minus the JCPOA, but he had the most meaningfully successful domestic policy this century, even if it pales in comparison to LBJ.

>>17781578
>They objectively made America far stronger than it was at the start of their terms.
they objectively did not. wilson created the fed and FDR's new deal was evil
>but was one of our greatest presidents domestically.
literally one of the all time worst. the great society caused crime and harmed America
>JCPOA
jcpoa literally gave iran money for terrorism and nukes
> but he had the most meaningfully successful domestic policy this century,
literally everything he did was terrible and he intentionally made the economy worse. there is a reason his legacy is 2016
you are a massive retard and I don't think you are American

>>17781588
>they objectively did not
They did. America became the most respected nation on the world stage, with a much more powerful military after the end of Wilson's term, and America became the premier power at the end of FDR's.
>wilson created the fed
Which has objectively been positive for the country after FDR's reforms.
>FDR's new deal was evil
The New Deal is literally what gave the American poor and working class the best living conditions in the world, and allowed the old to retire and children not to work.
>literally one of the all time worst.
Not by any logical standard can you claim that. Poverty massively went down, healthcare insurance went up, the economy boomed.
>the great society caused crime
Violent crime in this country peaked under Reagan, whose mission was literally reversing the Great Society.
>jcpoa literally gave iran money
It was Iran's illegally frozen money.
>terrorism
Rich coming from a pro-Israel necon.
>nukes
Literally the exact opposite of what happened.
>literally everything he did was terrible
Nah, millions more were insured, basic regulatory mechanics which could have prevented the Great Recession were restored after decades of bipartisan deregulation and poverty and unemployment declined.
>made the economy worse
Not by any objective standard.
>there is a reason his legacy is 2016
Had Obama been the nominee, he would have convincingly defeated Trump. Just as he would have if he was the nominee in 2024. The DNC forcing terrible, completely unlikable candidates on voters is not Obama's fault.

>>17781617
>They did.
I don't give a shit about the world stage. both of them were shitty domestically and sent Americans to die in foreign wars
>Which has objectively been positive for the country after FDR's reforms.
fuck off. the fed has done nothing but transfer wealth from the people to the rich. the fed is evil
>The New Deal
the new deal exacerbated the depression and caused the current debt crisis. bombing every factory in the world is what gave good living conditions to the working class.
plus FDR put Americans in concentration camps
>Not by any logical standard can you claim that.
crime and poverty both went up and he cause the 70s depression. plus welfare is slavery
>Violent crime in this country peaked under Reagan
reagan reversed the trend and sent us back to low crime. he inherited el bj's mistakes
>It was Iran's illegally frozen money.
that they used for terrorism
>Rich coming from a pro-Israel necon.
I hate the jews too, faggot
>Literally the exact opposite of what happened.
there were no inspections under obongo's deal. the jews pointed out the iranians were still making nukes and were allowed to make nukes after 10 years
>illions more were insured
health care costs have sky rocketed as a result of his policies
> basic regulatory mechanics which could have prevented the Great Recession were restored after decades of bipartisan deregulation and poverty and unemployment declined.
he literally transferred a ton of wealth to the rich and fucked over the average person so fucking bad even his own party's voters voted for sanders who ran on the fact that obongo was a failure who fucked up the economy
>Not by any objective standard.
see above. fucking terrible president
>Had Obama been the nominee, he would have convincingly defeated Trump.
lol nope. most Americans fucking hate obongo

>>17781644
>I don't give a shit about the world stage
Having a leader who commands respect of other nations and leaders, even their adversaries, is objectively a positive thing.
>both of them were shitty domestically
Both of them dramatically improved living standards.
>and sent Americans to die in foreign wars
Wars which the Central and Axis powers started against us.
>the fed has done nothing but transfer wealth from the people to the rich
That's neoliberalism, which was kickstarted by Reagan.
>the new deal exacerbated the depression
It didn't. Even with the 1937 recession, unemployment never reached what it did during the Hoover years, and material conditions were dramatically improved because of Social Security, the 40 hour work week, food stamps, work programs, infrastructure investment, etc.
>is what gave
No, it was the economic policies of Roosevelt, which is why it remained the case when Europe rebuilt and the Soviets were still at their most powerful.
>plus FDR put Americans in concentration camps
Gonna cry, libtard?
>crime
Crime was going up prior to Great Society and peaked during Reagan's anti-Great Society presidency, as I already said.
>poverty both went up
Demonstrably false. See the next pic related.
>and he cause the 70s depression
That was the OPEC oil embargo after Nixon bailed out Israel...
>plus welfare is slavery
Neoliberalism is slavery.
>reagan reversed the trend
No he didn't. It feel under Clinton, and most likely due to the internet. Nothing to do with Reagan.
>that they used for terrorism
If Israel doesn't want groups that it occupies to resist, then they shouldn't occupy them. And again, Israel and the United States openly finance jihadist terrorists so long as they're anti-Iran.
>I hate the jews too
Then why do you peddle their narratives?

>>17781644
>>17781884
>there were no inspections under obongo's deal
Yes there were. Literally every party involved confirmed Iran was abiding by it and capping uranium enrichment until Zion Don tore up the down at the behest of Netanyahu and his lobby.
>iranians were still making nukes
They weren't, but they really should have, so Netanyahu couldn't have gotten his dumbest golem to take us into another illegal, bullshit war.
>health care costs have sky rocketed as a result of his policies
Your problem is with capitalism, not Obamacare. See the next pic related.
>he literally transferred a ton of wealth to the rich
You can criticize Obama for not raising taxes on the wealthy enough, or doing enough against corporate power, but again, that's a trend which really starts with Reagan.
>lol nope. most Americans fucking hate obongo
Obama's approval rating is way higher than Trump's. I don't even like the guy and think he was a bad president overall, but I would vote for him over Zion Don 100x over, whereas I never would have voted for Hillary and voted third party last year.

>>17781644
>>17781884
>>17781891

>>17781884
>Having a leader who commands respect of other nations and leaders,
not really, the rest of the world loves American hating homosexuals
>Both of them dramatically
nope, the opposite
>Wars which the Central
no one attacked us to start WWI. and we didn't have to declare war on germany. FDR intentionally let pearl harbor happen, even though he was warned because he wanted to join the war in yurop and have Americans die there.
>That's neoliberalism,
nope. it was caused by wilson, FDR and nixon for creating the fed, stealing all the gold and then taking us off the gold standard.
>It didn't.
it did. FDR made recovery worse on purpose to benefit his banker friends and the US only started doing better when WWII started
>No, it was the economic policies of Roosevelt
nope. FDRs policies made the economy worse and hurt Americans. WWII was what got us out of the depression and bombing all the other factories helped the US. you are a gay retard. no democrat since the civil war has ever done anything to benefit the American people
>Gonna cry
it shows both you and him are pieces of shit for putting Americans into concentration camps.
>Crime was going up prior to
crime was caused by el bj and the great society because welfare causes crime and is slavery
>Demonstrably
demonstrably true
>UC davis
yeah fuck off with your chinese propaganda
>That was the
nope, it was el Bj and nixon taking us off the gold standard.
>Neoliberalism is slavery.
welfare is slavery. dems love slavery. dems have always love slavery
>No he didn't.
ues he did. it fell during the 80s into the 90s. reagan fixed it by ending welfare and clinton fixed it by ending welfare and throwing weed addicts in jail. like the only 2 good things he did
>No he didn't.
>Then why d
Iranian back terrorists attack US merchant ships. fuck off with this jewish shit you communist apologist

>>17781891
>>17781892
>Yes there
there were not. that was one of the big issues with it
>They weren't
they were. the jewish intelligence showed they were
>Your problem is w
no, it was obongocare. obongocare was designed by obongo, romney and the dems to rob the American people and give them worse healthcare while sending trillions to the health care companies who have government protections.
obongo is an evil piece of shit
>You can criticize Obama
no, obongo sent bailouts just to the rich, fucked the middle class with obongocare and tried to send as many jobs overseas as possible and tried to fill the US with illegals and h1bs
>Obama's approval rating is way hig
because they only asked gay retards. obongo was hated. that's why clinton lost and why obongo's own party ran on a platform of him being ass. every dem since the 1900 has been ass

Behold, a correct presidential ranking. Goes in order best to worst from top left to bottom right

>>17781926
lincoln too high
fdr too high
truman too high
el bj too high
nixon too high
clinton too high
wilson too high

>>17781929
LBJ is hard to rank because he had a great domestic agenda, and a good economic performance. (libertarians can hate it, but the economy was doing great through the 60s) But Vietnam was awful, and his was the FBI which was so out of control they killed MLK jr.

>>17781940
El BJ did a fucking terrible job domestically. literally every part of his agenda was terrible. that's why he was so hated he wasn't allowed to run for a second term. the only reason the economy was still decent was because we were still close to the end of WWII when we bombed the shit out of every other factory.
bongs for example still rationed food until the mid 50s

>>17781895
>not really
I don't even know what these means.
>nope
The data goes against you.
>no one attacked us to start WWI
Germany sunk our ships, destroyed Black Tom island and plotted to invade us with Mexico.
>FDR intentionally let pearl harbor happen
Not true, but even if it were, Japan didn't have to attack America.
>nope. it was caused by wilson, FDR and nixon
Nope. Real data, which I showed you, shows it was Reagan's tax cuts and subsequent neoliberalism of his successors.
>nope. FDRs policies made the economy worse
Again, all data disproves you.
>WWII was what got us out of the depression
We were out of the depression years before WW2.
>are pieces of shit
So that's a yes.
>because welfare causes crime
Nah, poverty, lack of jobs, lead in the water, closing insane asylums down, encouraging illegal immigration/lax borders for cheap labor, etc causes crime.
>demonstrably true
The data proves you wrong.
>yeah fuck off
I accept your concession.
>nope
Yep. There was no serious economic downturn until the oil embargo. There was a minor recession as a result of the collapse of Bretton Woods, but Nixon quickly ended it with common sense Keynesian policies.
>welfare is slavery
Nah, neoliberalism is.
>ues he did. it fell during the 80s into the 90s.
No retard, it massively increased under him, as did homelessness and it peaked under H.W. Bush, through no fault of his own. It fell under Clinton due to the internet and a strong economy because of the dotcom bubble.
>Iranian back terrorists attack US merchant ships
Because American backed terrorists (Israelis) are committing genocide. American backed terrorists (the Saudis) also committed brutal war crimes against them.

>>17781902
>there were not. that was one of the big issues with it
There were inspections, and there were no issues with it, which is why Netanyahu wanted it tore up, so he'd in the future have justification to attack Iran and drag America into the war due to another WMD hoax.
>they were. the jewish intelligence showed they were
Israeli intelligence does not show Iran has or is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon either. Netanyahu literally slipped up the other day and said they're "a year away," a lie he's peddling for four decades. And you're jewish.
>no, it was obongocare
I literally showed you premiums were rising at much higher rates pre-Obamacare.
>obongo sent bailouts just to the rich
Also to the millions of people during the housing crisis in 2008. As I said, he has a mixed domestic record, but it's still better than every president since LBJ.
>fucked the middle class with obongocare
Obamacare was objectively good for the working and middle class, as the statistics show.
>tried to send as many jobs overseas as possible
Which is actually a fair criticism of him.
>tried to fill the US with illegals and h1bs
That's Trump. Obama deported more illegal aliens than anyone in modern times.
>because they only asked gay retards
Nah, Obama won convincingly twice. Most people, even people who don't like him such as myself, would vote for him over Trump every day of the week.

>>17781955
>I don't even know what these means.
any president the yuros like is not America first. yuros like anti American gun grabbers
>The data goes
it does not
>Germany s
not really, and we were actively supplying the UK because wilson and FDR were trying to enter both wars
>Not tru
it is true. US intelligence knew about the attack ahead of time
>Nope. Real
nope. it was the creation of the fed and abandoning the gold standard for monopoly money that did it. everything shows the bad shit happened when nixon abandoned the gold standard
>Again, all
it does not
>We wer
we were not
>So that's a yes
putting American citizens into concentration camps is horrific and evil
>Nah, po
welfare and illegals cause crime
>The dat
it does not
>I accep
literal CCP propaganda, because you cannot find a real source
>Yep. There w
nope. it was caused by el bj and nixon
>Nah,
welfare is slavery. what percent of your labor can I take from you by force before it's slavery?
> it massively incre
the increase was caused by el BJ. reagan worked to reverse it and it fell because we put weed addicts in jail and guiliani euthanized the homeless
tough on crime works
>Because Amer
don't give a shit. he funded terrorism against American merchant ships

>>17781968
>There were in
there weren't. the whole issue was the ban on unannounced inspections
>Israeli intelligenc
it showed they were enriching weapons grade fissile material against the treaty
>I literally show
they weren't. you posted ccp propaganda. healthcare skyrocketed after obongocare which was the goal, because obongo fucking hates Americans
>Also to t
he did not bail out the middle class and did everything he could to fuck over Americans
>but it's still better than every president since LBJ.
obongo and el bj are two of the all time worst presidents and both hated Americans
>Obamacare was objec
no it wasn't. it caused premiums to skyrocket. his own fucking party is running on how shitty it is and how expensive healthcare is
>Obama deported mo
FAKE NEWS
>Nah,
yeah, most people fucking hate him, see 2016.
hell 2/3rds of white men under 30 voted red in 2024, so that says a lot about you
all dems are evil anti American gun control faggots.