"During Holodomor people brought family heritage - crosses, earrings, wedding rings to Torgsins and exchanged it for special stamps, for which they could obtain basic goods - mostly flour, cereals or sugar. Torgsins operated at highly speculative prices and were known for long queues. With that mechanism authorities were able to extort from the population whatever could have been hidden during the confiscations."
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Was Holodomor a big factor towards their, as they saw it, righteous moral crusade to destroy the Asiatic Bolshevik ie the Khazarian Jew, in revenge for the millions if White Christians killed?

Or was the full extent of the event hidden to Hitler even by 1939?

>>17780174 (OP)
It was known it had happened because people were hopping border to Poland and Polish newspapers picked their stories up. Then it kind if ended in a typical situation where left-leaning publications were saying these are some kind of traitors or didn't actually live in the USSR because central planning solves economy(lmao) and right-leaning publications would trust everything they've said even if it sounded sketchy(some of these border hoppers were literal soviet agents who used stories of starvation to both cover up who they are and tell things do ridiculous that they would make you question any information coming out of the other runaways and then engaged in banditry/sabotage in Poland).

>>17780174 (OP)
what blew up in kiev today?

>>17780174 (OP)

They knew about it and didn't give a shit. Hell, they were in the middle of negotiating the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact as the Soviets were massacring their own German minority and didn't even bother citing it as a justification for Operation Barbarossa.

>>17780441
>left-leaning
The left in Europe wasn't pro-Soviet. Communists were generally considered the enemies and agents of Moscow. Certainly in Poland.

>>17780174 (OP)
They didn't give a shit. They literally planned to starve 20 million Slavs.

>>17781505
In the interwar era a lot of them were absolutely pro-soviet or at least sympathetic. It was only after the war that some efforts to make them more anti-soviet have started, but in the interwar period you've maybe had some frankfurt school people being dismissive to the revolution as failed, but they were more concentrated on why didn't it spread to other countries more.

>>17781572
I think this only happened in France and in Spain. Until 1934 the communists weren't even interested in forming coalition with socialists. They called them social fascists, so both groups never really worked together.

SPD in Germany was anti-communist, KPP in Poland was technically illegal and PPS (Polish Socialist Party) considered them Soviet traitors.

>>17781497
That is precisely wgat I have been wondering thank you for nailing the issue.

I do not believe if AH and/or the rest of the German leadership knew the full extent of Jewish atrocities on White Christians, that they would not "give a shit" as you so eloquently put it. I believe AH and at least some of his top people had deeply humanitist principles and would consider Holodomor an outstanding bit if evidence of Bolshevik subhumanity.

I feel like they didn't really know. The Soviets indeed had a formidable lock on all information trickling out to the West.

>>17781510
What? When? When did they plan to starve 20 million Slavs?!

>>17781608
Various British communist parties were on both sides of the fence(Orwell complains about pro-soviet commies a lot, obviously), so were the American ones as well as German KPD and once you get France, the UK and the US then that's a lot of media coverage about something the soviet authorities wouldn't admit was happening.

>>17781608
>>17781642
Youre shitting up my thread with this, get a room. The question is did AH know the full extent of the Holodomor and can it be said this partly fired his belief system

>>17780174 (OP)
No because Ukrainian and Russian infighting didn't concern them. They were concerned with German and Western interests

>>17781626
fagtler know about it and devised the plan to trick soviets into feeding their semen to german girls, it worked well in 1945

>>17781653
The question is related to the topic though. The knowledge about it was relatively widespread unless you were leftist and the channels for both reporting on it and denialism(right and left leaning journalists) were given we've just discussed some details.

Hitler probably wasn't directly influenced by holodomor in anything other than perhaps dismissing some kinds of strasserists demanding collectivisation if this even came up as an idea.