Wanted to make a thread recommending books about Chinese history.
Iโll post my own but please feel free to post your recs.
First up is Imperial China from DK Books, a book with many pictures that covers all of Imperial China. Not super in depth but a good introduction.
The Oxford History of Modern China is a pretty decent intro book for the past 150 years of Chinaโs history, with a new author for each chapter.
>>17780423 (OP)Thought it was going to be Imperial China by FW Mote from the thumbnail. That's a very excellent book about the late imperial period of the Ming+Qing dynasties. A real door stop of a tome.
Mao by Philip Short
A balanced biography about Chairman Mao
>>17780432Looks like a good book
Do you have any recs for anything more specific than general overviews on the Song and Tang?
China in War Revolution, 1895-1949 by Peter Zarrow
A book that covers the end of Imperial China, the Republican era, the Warlord era, and the Civil War.
Chinaโs Republic by Diana Lary
A general history of the Chinese Republic
The Gate of Heavenly Peace: The Chinese and Their Revolution 1895โ1980 by Jonathan D Spence
Covers 20th Century China. Doesn't really look at historical events but instead focuses on key figures and their lives.
Forgotten Ally: Chinaโs World War II 1937-1945
A history of Chinaโs role in WWII
My 2 recommendations to people who are just starting to study Chinese history are "the cambridge illustrated history of china" by Patricia Ebrey for ancient china, which moves very fast but gives a good overview, and "revolution and its past" by R Schoppa for modern history. It's a very balanced view, and gives a lot of recommendations for further reading. If you read the Ebrey book I recommend also getting as a companion her "Chinese history: a Sourcebook" which goes a long way to expand upon the main book with contextualized primary sources.
China at War
A military history of China in WWII and the Korean War.
The Generalissimo: Chiang Kai-shek and the Struggle for Modern China
A good biography of Chiang
Shanghai 1937: Stalingrad on the Yangtze
A book covering the 1937 battle of Shanghai
Kangzhan: Guide to Chinese Ground Forces 1937โ45
Reference book for the Chinese WWII forces.
The Mongols by David Morgan
A good overview of the Mongols
>>17780423 (OP)It's all fake and made up.
Formosa Betrayed by George Kerr is an excellent primary source account about the 1947 massacres and start of the white terror in Taiwan, written by an American diplomat who was there when it happened. It was adapted into a movie about 10 years ago and there was a reprinting of the book, so it's not hard to find.
China: A History by John Keay
Just a decent intro book
>>17780520Looks good.
Got any recs for a general history of Taiwan?
The Penguin History of Modern China
The Search for Modern China is considered the standard textbook about Modern China.
China Wakes: The Struggle for the Soul of a Rising Power
Based off two American reporters who were in China in the 1980โs and early 90โs.
Mao: The Real Story
Another Mao biography
The Sino-Soviet Split: Cold War in the Communist World
A history of the Sino-Soviet Split
Shadow Cold War: The Sino-Soviet Competition for the Third World
China and the Soviet Unionโs competition for the allegiance of third world countries after their split.
The Discourse of Race in Modern China by Frank Dikรถtter
A historical look at how race is viewed in China.
>All modern history
It's over
God's Chinese Son: The Taiping Heavenly Kingdom of Hong Xiuquan
A history of the Taiping Rebellion
The Gunpowder Age: China, Military Innovation, and the Rise of the West in World History
How China innovated gunpowder for military use but then slipped behind Europe.
How Taiwan Became Chinese: Dutch, Spanish, and Han Colonization in the Seventeenth Century
A history of the early colonization of Taiwan.
The Cambridge History of Ancient China: From the Origins of Civilization to 221 BC
A history of very early China.
>>17780569Post your own recs then.
Islamic China: An Asian History
This book isnโt out yet but it looks interesting. A history of Islam in China.
https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674976801
From Rebel to Ruler: One Hundred Years of the Chinese Communist Party
A history of the CCP
Harvard Press did a six book series about major dynasties of China.
The Early Chinese Empires: Qin and Han
>>17780585>Post your own recs then.I'm asking for some nigga
>>17780596China between Empires: The Northern and Southern Dynasties
>>17780585>The Cambridge History of Ancient China: From the Origins of Civilization to 221 BCIs this still up to date?
>>17780600The Age of Confucian Rule: The Song Transformation of China
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>>17780604Chinaโs Cosmopolitan Empire: The Tang Dynasty
>>17780608The Troubled Empire: China in the Yuan and Ming Dynasties
>>17780613China's Last Empire: The Great Qing
>>17780606Post one of his books
Fire Over Luoyang: A History of the Later Han Dynasty 23-220 AD
>>17780423 (OP)All under heaven by Carolyn Phillips
A good chinese cookbook imo
>>17780637Oh wow, a history cook book. That looks cool.
Deng Xiaoping and the Transformation of China
This considered the definitive biography of Deng
The Tiananmen Papers
A book of leaked CCP meeting minutes documents during the Tiananmen Square protests.
Maoโs Last Revolution
This is considered the seminal book on the Cultural Revolution period.
The Battle for Chinaโs Past: Mao & the Cultural Revolution
This book is a more leftist, positive view of the Cultural Revolution
The Great Enterprise: The Manchu Reconstruction of Imperial Order in Seventeenth-Century China
The definitive work on the fall of ming and rise of the manchus
There's not much in english on the spring and autumn period and warring states but recently a ming era novel called romance of the eastern zhou kingdoms was fully translated. It's like romance of the three kingdoms. It's 4 volumes and called Kingdoms in Peril translated by Olivia Milburn
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronicles_of_the_Eastern_Zhou_Kingdoms
We can also now get a nearly full narrative of the eastern han dynasty.
Rafe de Crispigny has now translated the Zizhi Tongjian for most of the eastern han period.
A Hundred Years of Han (two volumes): Being the Chronicle of the Later Han Dynasty for the Years 57 to 156 AD
Emperor Huan and Emperor Ling: being the Chronicle of the Later Han dynasty for the years 157 to 189 AD as recorded in Chapters 54 to 59 of the Zizhi tongjian of Sima Guang
To Establish Peace: Being the Chronicle of Later Han for the Years 189 to 220 A.D
>>17781104My pet period is the 5 fynasties and ten kingdoms period. Here is my list
From Warhorses to Ploughshares
The Later Tang Reign of Emperor Mingzong rivhard L davis
Ouyang Xiu's historical records of the five dynasties - translated by Richard L davis
Fire and Ice - Li Cunxu and the Founding of the Later Tang richard L davis
China's Southern Tang Dynasty, 937-976 - Johannes Kurz
Portrait of Five Dynasties China:From the Memoirs of Wang Renyu (880-956)
The Reunification of China: Peace Through War Under the Song Dynasty - peter lorge
Fanshen: A Documentary of Revolution in a Chinese Village
An Americanโs account of communist reorganization in a rural Chinese village in 1948.
>>17781104>>17781128Thank you for all of these
>>17780468Apparently, this was also published in other countries as โChina's War with Japan, 1937-1945: The Struggle for Survivalโ
In english there's a really big gap. You'll find tons of works of the ming, qing, and modern china but for anything before that there's not much and in some cases those previous periods only have a few or even one person working on then. For example Rafe de Crispigny has produced most of the works on the eastern han period in english. For such a well know dynasty the Tang don'tt have much. If anyone does have 1 or 2 reccomendations for chinese history in each period up to the ming in english that would be nice
Chinaโs Good War: How World War II Is Shaping a New Nationalism
A look at how todayโs CCP uses China in WWII as a founding myth.
The Rape of Nanking: The Forgotten Holocaust of WWII
A horrific account of what Japan did to Nanking in WWII
>>17781155Already posted these in the thread, but Harvard recently released a 6 book series about the big dynasties of Imperial China: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/series/history-of-imperial-china
The Party: The Secret World of China's Communist Rulers
An inside look of the CCP
>>17781171These aren't narrative and are very condensed.
A Death in the Lucky Holiday Hotel: Murder, Money, and an Epic Power Struggle in China
A book recounting the Bo Xilai incident, one of the most pivotal moments in Chinese history in the last 15 years, one that helped Xi Jinping rise to power.
Factory Girls: From Village to City in a Changing China
A look at the migrant workers who went from rural China to the big cities during the reform era of China.
>>17781104>>17781128Very cool recs. Anything else?
>>17781171How is that series anyway? I've been thinking of getting into Chinese history starting with those.
Webs of Smoke: Smugglers, Warlords, Spies, and the History of the International Drug Trade
A history of the early 20th century drug trade and how China was important to it.
The Origins of the Cultural Revolution trilogy by Roderick MacFarquhar
The Wobbling Pivot, China Since 1800: An Interpretive History
Socialism with Chinese Characteristics: A Guide for Foreigners
A look at Dengโs ideology.
>>17781186>Very cool recs. Anything else?Sure.
Western Zhou
The multi state system of ancient china - richard walker
Li Feng - landscape and power in early china the crisis and fall of the western zhou 1045-771 BC
Sawyer ralph - conquest and domination in early china - rise and demise of western chou
Eastern zhou
Chronicles of the Eastern Zhou kingdoms like I mentioned above.
Western Han
I've got nothing. Cambridge History I guess
Eastern han
Rafe De crispigny. For emperor guangwu amd wang mang there's the 4 volume restoration of the han dynasty by Hans Bielenstein. Its the reason why Rafe de crispigny never bothered with guangwu which is unfortunate as its a very dry work.
Period of disunion
Again cambridge history but
Scott Pierce has written a book on northern wei one of the significsnt dynasties of the period and is writing a volume on its successor kingdoms.
Tang
Cambridge history again but here are some books
Sui-Tang China and its turko-mongol neighbours
Tang China and the collapse of the Uyghur empire
The background of the an lushan rebellion edwin pulleybank
Song
Wind against mountain - richard L davis
>How is that series anyway? I've been thinking of getting into Chinese history starting with those.Its a very bad way to start actually those arent narrative histories and more thematic. You will be confused. You're better of with the cambridge histories where the first half or first volume is narrative and the second half or second volume is thematic.
Red Star Over China
Classic book of an American reporter meeting the Chinese communist rebels in the 1930โs.
>>17781227>You're better of with the cambridge histories where the first half or first volume is narrative and the second half or second volume is thematic.Are you talking about the multi volume Cambridge History of China?
How China Works: An Introduction to Chinaโs State-led Economic Development
A look at how Chinaโs economy works.
Chinaโs Economy: What Everyone Needs to Know
Another book about the modern Chinese economy
>>17781233Yes. The ancient one is separate from the main series. You should start with that one.
For the main series you have single volume and multi volumes for the dynasties. The narrative portion is either in the first half or first volume
The camridge histories are dense so if you just want an overview John Keay should be good enough.
How China Escaped Shock Therapy: The Market Reform Debate
A look at how while China did do market reforms, they escaped the worst of shock therapy that Russia got in the 1990โs.
The Invention of China
How Chinese nationalism came to be.
Poetry, History, Memory: Wang Jingwei and China in Dark Times
A look at Chinaโs most infamous collaborator with the Japanese during WWII, who did start out at as a nationalist.
Chinese Collaboration with Japan, 1932-1945: The Limits of Accommodation
A look at elements of the Chinese that collaborated with the Japanese during WWII.
Rays of the Rising Sun
About the Chinese military forces that fought for Japan. (Says itโs the first volume of a trilogy but I canโt find the other volumes)
>>17781244>For the main series you have single volume and multi volumes for the dynasties. The narrative portion is either in the first half or first volumeDamn those things are thick. Exactly what I'm looking for, I'm not fond of really broad overviews. Super fucking expensive but I'm sure I can find it somewhere else. Do they assume any prior knowledge or can somebody with no idea about Chinese history other than a willingness to put in the effort to comprehend it get by?
Iโm really hoping this will get uploaded to libgen or Annaโs Archive soon
General History of Chinese Film
>>17781244>>17781268Are they all uploaded to Annaโs Archive?
>>17781268>>17781271They're all on libgen
>>17781269If weโre doing Film history, then Hong Kong Cinema: The Extra Dimensions, is the go to for Hong Kong film history.
Confucian China and Its Modern Fate: A Trilogy
The Star Raft: Chinaโs Encounter with Africa
A history of Chinese-African relations
24 Hours in Ancient China
Daily life in Ancient China
>>17781079Another pro Cultural Revolution book
The Unknown Cultural Revolution: Life and Change in a Chinese Village
The China Mirage: The Hidden History of American Disaster in Asia
A look at the China Lobby in America
The Question of Hu
A book not about Chinese history but about a Chinese guy who ended up in France.
The Man on Mao's Right: From Harvard Yard to Tiananmen Square, My Life Inside China's Foreign Ministry
A memoir from one of Maoโs right hand men.
Autumn in the Heavenly Kingdom: China, the West, and the Epic Story of the Taiping Civil War
A book about the Taiping rebellion
The Long March: The Untold Story
A writer actually went and interviewed survivors of The Long March.
The Retreat of the Elephants: An Environmental History of China
Like the title says, an environmental history of China
>>17780601Hereโs a newer book
Early China: A Social and Cultural History
The Story of China
Another general history of China
>>17780601>>17781455There are no significant updates. You can read either. The xia dynasty is still up for debate. The Shang issue was dealt with previously
>>17780617>>17780606Another one of his books
Imperial Warlord: A Biography of Cao Cao 155-220 AD
>>17781408Same author wrote a good book about the run up to the Opium War
Imperial Twilight: The Opium War and the End of China's Last Golden Age
Iโm glad no one has recommended any of Jung Changโs books, theyโre all atrocious.
Even her Mao biography is considered bad by other anti-Mao biographers.
Emperor of the Seas: Kublai Khan and the Making of China
Good book about how Kublai Khan helped make China into a seafaring nation.
Uncertain Partners: Stalin, Mao, and the Korean War
A history of the Soviet-Sino alliance during the Korean War.
>>17780563I've thought twice about looking at anything Dikotter's written after I read some of "The Age of Openness." He went to wild lengths to downplay the Warlord Era. Suggesting that the 1919 Arms Embargo precluded any possibility of serious warfare happening. Despite there being an entire book about how every country party to it circumvented it.
>>17780529Did not care for this one. Felt like various fun facts of each emperor. Did not feel like I gained much insight into China or how it operated throughout history.
A Short History of Chinese Philosophy by Feng Youlan
I know this is old but is it still good?
>>17781579His whole trilogy about Mao is criticized by academics for bad sourcing.
>>17781568>Good book about how Kublai Khan helped make China into a seafaring nation.>proceeds to lose all his naval campaignslmao classic Jack Weatherford. China as a seafaring nation is a Song dynasty development that resulted from the northern trade routes being under the control of the Liao and Xia and from maritime trade being far faster than slow overland caravan trade. I would only read Jack Weatherford to amuse myself. He is a joke
>>17780483Another Chiang biography
Chiang Kai Shek: China's Generalissimo and the Nation He Lost
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>>17781589I read which covers the Zhou Dynasty (1040-221BC) and Qin. With a brief chapter for later philosophical periods
>Introduction to Classical Chinese Philosophyand
>Introducing Chinese religions. London: Routledgefor class
The Wars for Asia, 1911โ1949
A history of East Asiaโs wars in the early 20th Century
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must have atlas to refer to and learn the cultural sphere of Zhongguo
The Beautiful Country and the Middle Kingdom: America and China, 1776 to the Present
A history of Chinese-American relations.
>>17781627a topical further reading list
The China Mission: George Marshall's Unfinished War, 1945-1947
A look at General Marshallโs attempt to bring peace to the Chinese Civil War and stop a Communist takeover/bring democracy to China.
Is Red China Blues any good?
>>17781663Or Jan Wong in general?
>>17781663Any more recs on Cultural Revolution memoirs?
The Soong Dynasty
A history of the very important Soong family in China.
Nixon in China: The Week That Changed The World
The history of Nixonโs historic visit to China.
Would this be a good history of Taiwan?
Maoism: A Global History
A look at how Maoโs thought influence revolutionaries all over the world.
Chinese Marxism
A look at how Marxism was developed in China
>>17780423 (OP)John Keay is a good place to start but he makes at least two very silly errors:
>Genghis Khan was 20 when he united the Mongols.he was 40
>The Manchu hair queue resembles those of Alaskan natives, who also speak a Tungusic languagelmao
Tungusic peoples like the Manchu are ancient forest-steppe Siberians, which puts them on one end of some cultural continua with native Alaskans, cf. Dene-Yeniseian hypothesis and North Pacific Rim cultural continuum. Yes, Siberian people and Native Alaskans have some shared cultural elements. Yes, some native Alaskans cut and braid their hair. No, Tungusic languages are not spoken in Alaska.
>>17780529>>17781582John Keay is a good place to start but he makes at least two very silly errors:
>Genghis Khan was 20 when he united the Mongols.he was 40
>The Manchu hair queue resembles those of Alaskan natives, who also speak a Tungusic languagelmao, even
Tungusic peoples like the Manchu are ancient forest-steppe Siberians, which puts them on one end of some cultural continua with native Alaskans, cf. Dene-Yeniseian hypothesis and North Pacific Rim cultural continuum. Yes, Siberian people and Native Alaskans have some shared cultural elements. Yes, some native Alaskans cut and braid their hair. No, Tungusic languages are not spoken in Alaska.
Would this be a good history of Hong Kong?
>>17781166Iris Chang selectively quoted a German account of the Hui Muslim (Mohammedan) Ha family being raped in Nanjing by Japanese.
She cut out the entire part about the family being Muslim Hui, and falsely presented it as if it was a Han family getting killed and raped.
There was a huge Hui Muslim community of tens of thousands in Nanjing, with witnesses describing Muslim corpses in all the mosques and Muslim quarter.
Iris Chang left that all out. She mistakenly thought people would have less sympathy for China if Muslim victims were mentioned, but it has the opposite affect, now Islamists don't know Japan raped and tortured Muslims so they might support Japan.
Japan also raped and killed 4 million Indonesian Muslims
>>17781249The author of this book has a political agenda, regarding the western created states of Indonesia and Philippines as having real identities when they were marked by whites, and claiming they are the rightful owners of the South China sea.
He claims China is an invented construct but the Philippines and Indonesia, which were raped by Spain, Netherlands, US and created by whites, are very real identities.
It's full of shit, the author is lying and doesn't speak Chinese.
>>17781251The author of this book is Japanese apologist with an agenda.
>>17781480How do Wood and Keay compare? Is Wood worth reading if I've read Keay?
pic not /his/ but a very funny travelogue that got me into China as a teenager[/e]
>>17781480How do Wood and Keay compare? Is Wood worth reading if I've read Keay?
pic not /his/ but a very funny travelogue that got me into China as a teenager[/e]
>>17781480How do Wood and Keay compare? Is Wood worth reading if I've read Keay?
pic not /his/ but a very funny travelogue that got me into China as a teenager
Any good books on the nationalist era?
Are there any books about why Chinese women love WMAF ?
>>17782401>During the siege of Fort Zeelandia, the Chinese took many Dutch prisoners, among them the Dutch missionary Antonius Hambroek and his wife, and two of their daughters. Koxinga sent Hambroek to Fort Zeelandia to persuade the garrison to surrender; if unsuccessful, Hambroek would be killed upon return. Hambroek went up to the Fort, where two of his other daughters still remained, and urged the garrison to not surrender. He subsequently returned to Koxinga's camp and was beheaded. Additionally, a rumor was spread among the Chinese that the Dutch were encouraging the native Taiwan aboriginals to kill Chinese. In retaliation, Koxinga ordered the mass execution of Dutch male prisoners,[33] mostly by crucifixion and decapitation[34] with a few women and children also being killed. The remainder of the Dutch women and children were enslaved, with Koxinga taking Hambroek's teenage daughter as his concubine (she was described by the Dutch commander Caeuw as "a very sweet and pleasing maiden", while other Dutch women were sold to Chinese soldiers to become their (secondary) wives or mistresses.[35][36][37] The daily journal of the Dutch fort recorded that "the best were preserved for the use of the commanders, and the rest were sold to the common soldiers. Happy was she that fell to the lot of an unmarried man, being thereby freed from vexations by the Chinese women, who are very jealous of their husbands."[38] The Chinese took Dutch women as slave concubines and wives and they were never freed: in 1684 some were reported to be still living. In Quemoy a Dutch merchant was contacted with an arrangement to release the prisoners which was proposed by a son of Koxinga's but it came to nothing.[39][40][41]
What are some recs on the Opium Wars?
>>17782530Kimchi gook Kim Ho-dong forgot to mention this.
Kublai Khan gave Korean wives to Han Chinese Southern Song soldiers who would defect to the Yuan dynasty/Mongol empire.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=b3sMAQAAMAAJ&q=%22court+sent+a+special+envoy+to+Korea+to+select+women+for+soldiers+of+the+South-+ern+Chinese+.+Yuan+sent+a+barbarian+betrothal+envoy+named+Xiao+Yu+to+Korea.+The+letter+from+the+Central+Government+read:+%22The+soldiers+of+the+Xiangyang+prefecture+of+the+Southern+Song+request+wives,+therefore+we+send+envoy+Xiao+Yu+to+the+Kory%C5%8F+State%22+%22semu+soldiers+but+only+for+the+newly+-+submissive+soldiers+of+the+Southern+Song+.+Why+did+he+not+select+women+from+China+proper+so+that+the+couples+would+have+had+a+common+cultural+...+Korean+Tribute+Women+in+Mongol+Yuan+Dynasty+101.%22&dq=%22court+sent+a+special+envoy+to+Korea+to+select+women+for+soldiers+of+the+South-+ern+Chinese+.+Yuan+sent+a+barbarian+betrothal+envoy+named+Xiao+Yu+to+Korea.+The+letter+from+the+Central+Government+read:+%22The+soldiers+of+the+Xiangyang+prefecture+of+the+Southern+Song+request+wives,+therefore+we+send+envoy+Xiao+Yu+to+the+Kory%C5%8F+State%22+%22semu+soldiers+but+only+for+the+newly+-+submissive+soldiers+of+the+Southern+Song+.+Why+did+he+not+select+women+from+China+proper+so+that+the+couples+would+have+had+a+common+cultural+...+Korean+Tribute+Women+in+Mongol+Yuan+Dynasty+101.%22&;;;
>court sent a special envoy to Korea to select women for soldiers of the South- ern Chinese . Yuan sent a barbarian betrothal envoy named Xiao Yu to Korea. The letter from the Central Government read:>The soldiers of the Xiangyang prefecture of the Southern Song request wives, therefore we send envoy Xiao Yu to the Koryล State">semu soldiers but only for the newly - submissive soldiers of the Southern Song . Why did he not select women from China proper so that the couples would have had a common cultural ... Korean Tribute Women in Mongol Yuan Dynasty 101."
>>17782541https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13277598/#q13277705
Korean history under the Mongol empire
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13220256/#q13220256
>>13220256https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10828773/#q10828773
>>10828773https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13043204/#q13043204
>>13043204https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13067378/#q13067627
>13067627 >13071844https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/12011702/#q12011702
>12011702>13277598No.>13231351
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/9505389/#q9508255
>9508255https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13205503/#q13208522
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13089506/#q13092548
>13092548
>>17782542read
>>17608849Mongols sold their own children as slaves to Han Chinese during the Yuan dynasty
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/13220256/#q13220278
The four class system in the Yuan never banned interracial marriage of upper classes women to the "lower classes".
Northern Han generals married Mongol women and Southern Han soldiers married Korean women (supposedly from the "higher class")
The four class system regulated quotas in examinations, government positions.
>>17608854>>17608857https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17388491/#q17388491
>>17782530>>17782541https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/17388491/#q17388491
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=PDjWpqU55eMC&pg=PA52
https://vdoc.pub/documents/empires-twilight-northeast-asia-under-the-mongols-2i7l4ccfsq10
https://dokumen.pub/empires-twilight-northeast-asia-under-the-mongols-1nbsped-0674036085-9780674036086.html
>Koryล women were inseparable from the popularity of things Korean. The first waves of Koryล women into the Mongol empire arrived as captives seized during the bloody fighting of the mid-thirteenth century. These women were variously used as slaves, married to recently surrendered Southern Song soldiers, or distributed as war booty to Mongol warriors. Late in the thirteenth century, Qubilai and other Mongol aristocrats began to demand women from elite Koryล families as wives and consorts. Despite initial efforts to avoid these demands, the Korean government eventually responded by establishing government bureaus to organize and control the flow of Koryล women to the Mongol empire. What had begun as the seizure of women as war booty evolved into a complex system of formal tribute between the ruling houses of Koryล and the Mongol empire. Yuan envoys regularly traveled to Koryล to secure women on behalf of the emperor, who often redistributed them as gifts to leading ministers. Yuan envoys and Yuan officials stationed in Koryล also requested Koryล brides for themselves.
>>17781612Everything I ever hear about Mongol China is that they just copied the Song or co-opted what they already did and did nothing with it
>>17781568>>17781612>>17782557Neither Han dynasties nor Yuan lost naval battles to foreigners, it was the kamikaze storm that destroyed the Yuan fleet.
The Tang dynasty destroyed the numerically superior Japanese fleet at Baekgang and the Southern Song navy always destroyed the numerically superior Jin fleets like at Tangdao and Caishi.
The incredible thing about the chinkspammer is he manages to make earnest threads about China impossible despite being a diaspora loser himself.
>>17782530>>17782541Kim Ho-dong trying to claim Da Yuan as a non-dynastic name doesn't hold up, when Kublai issued a declaration in Chinese in 1271 explicitly claiming it was a new dynastic name and reforming the administration of the state along Chinese dynastic lines instead of continuing as a khanate.
Liu Bingzhong openly advised Kublai on the name, from the Yijing (I Ching) and helped draft his declaration.
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>>17782703>post "chinkspam" once>chinkspammer goes on an unhinged rant about why the spanish empire couldn't beat the ming in a thread that at no point prior made a single comment about either china or spain>>>17780830dude's definitely going to end up murdering someone IRL
>>17781166>>17781886Timur's Turco Mongol soldiers mass raped and impregnated Sunni Arab girls in Baghdad, Aleppo and Damascus.
All Arab Sunnis carry the DNA of his soldiers.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/10249882/#q10252672
Timur i Lang (Tamerlame or Tamerlane or Timur the Lame) invaded the Middle East after his invasion of India. He slaughtered, tortured and raped his own co-religionist Sunni Muslims across Iraq and Syria. Timur's Tatar (Turco-Mongol Central Asian) Sunni soldiers gang raped Sunni Arab women and virgins girls of Iraq and Syria in their own mosques.
This is the story of horror that the Turco Mongol conqueror Timur inflicted upon the Sunni Muslim Arabs of Baghdad, Aleppo and Damascus. His soldiers gang raped girls while their brothers and fathers were tortured and forced to watch in the mosques.
https://archive.is/IJQD0
remove the . between just and paste to get the url.
https://web.archive.org/web/20210908183250/https://just.paste.it/2kj98
They say the descendants of his Turco-Mongol soldiers are found among the Sunni Arab populations of those places today due to the amount of virgin girls that were violated.
>>17781166>>17781886>>17782730In Islam, Allah is all powerful and decreed all affairs. Both good and evil come from him and the devil has no power.
Syrian Sunni Islamists and Iraqi Sunni Islamists try to act tough and screech on how they are going to genocide X people or minority ans brag about their ancestors being tough warriors.
By Allah's decree, these same people have been gang raped, enslaved, butchered for the past 1000 years by Mongols, Timur (Tamerlane), Safavids, Khwarezmians (the Kwarezmian refugee army that fled the Mongols).
Khwarezmians went on rape spree against Sunnis in Syria, then Mongols sacked Baghdad, Damascus and Aleppo and raped all the Sunni women.
The Mongols repeated sacked Damascus and Aleppo again and again.
Timur came with another round of rape for Sunni girls and women in Baghdad, Damascus and Aleppo.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/15320676/#q15320786
Also their Sunni women became prostitutes in Jordanian hotels for white foreigners after their wars.
Is this why they curse Allah? Because Allah decreed they be raped for the past 1000 years so the lash out agianst Allah in frustration?
>>17782530Japanese raped Korean girls in the Imjin war
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/16658070/#q16658070
>>16658070
>Great thread on books about China
>Chinkspammer ruins the thread as soon ass they show up
Many such cases!
