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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:42:34 PM No.17781624
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If Islam is supposed to be a universal religion, why is there so much emphasis on Arabic culture and language? Why is it necessary to say the shahada in Arabic in addition to your native language?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 8:47:45 PM No.17781647
>>17781624 (OP)
>Islam is supposed to be a universal religion
who the fuck says this? The Quran speaks of revelation BY the arabs, FOR the arabs.
Like after reading the Quran, the ONLY impression you get is that "Abraham came from jews, Christ came for Christians, Muhammad comes for Arabs"

>"(Mohammed) You are only a Warner and for every nation there is a guide." (13:7)
>"And we have sent no messenger but with the language of his people, that he might make (the message) clear for them." (14:4)
>"He is (Allah) who has raised among the unlettered people a messenger from among themselves" (62:2)
>"And this (Quran) is a blessed book which we have revealed, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, so that you (O prophet) may warn the mother of the cities (Makkah) and those around her." (6:92)
>"And thus we have revealed to you an Arabic Quran, so that you may warn the mother of the cities (Makkah) and those around her." (42:7)
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:06:39 PM No.17781689
>>17781624 (OP)
The underlying assumption was that you would "become" arab by embracing Islam, for all intents and purposes. At least for a time, the ideal went on decaying for a while. The religion was not very separable from the ethnicity. Imagine for example the Jews, they are both a religion and an ethnicity and they are so closely intertwined people can rarely differentiate them.
>Why is it necessary to say the shahada in Arabic in addition to your native language?
Because Arabic is the language of God.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:10:21 PM No.17781696
>>17781647
Then why do Muslims hate Christians so much and want to murder enslave and forcibly convert them?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:16:36 PM No.17781708
>>17781696
They don't. There's sizeable Christian communties in the middle East. And there used to be in other parts of the Muslim world, before the 19th-20th centuries sent the way the world was out of whack.
They just have to pay a tax along some other restrictions.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:24:52 PM No.17781722
>>17781708
>Surah An-Nisa 89 - They wish you would disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so you may all be alike. So do not take them as allies unless they emigrate in the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and do not take any of them as allies or helpers,

Why do Muslims lie about everything?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:26:34 PM No.17781726
>>17781722
If you really want that resolved go to some muslim scholar and have them rattle their reconciliation of that verse with Dhimmitude.
Objectively, they don't.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:26:50 PM No.17781727
>>17781708
What happened to the Christian majority in the middle east?
What tax did the Christians in the Ottoman empire have to pay?
Why arent Christians allowed to build churches and preach their faith among Muslims?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:27:45 PM No.17781729
>>17781624 (OP)
It started as a arabic religion, only later they accepted non-arabic converters with equal rights. For a time for being accepted you also had to find and arabic tribe willingly to adopt you
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:31:03 PM No.17781736
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>>17781726
>Objectively, they don't.
>https://www.opendoorsuk.org/news/latest-news/drc-attack-church/
>ADF beheads 70 Christians in a church
This was in February.

>Surah Al-Baqarah - 191-193 - Kill them wherever you come upon them1 and drive them out of the places from which they have driven you out. For persecution is far worse than killing. And do not fight them at the Sacred Mosque unless they attack you there. If they do so, then fight them—that is the reward of the disbelievers.

Muslims and their apologists continuing to lie.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:34:33 PM No.17781745
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>>17781726
Aisha was 9 btw.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:34:49 PM No.17781746
>>17781729
Islam wasnt even meant to replace Christianity or Judaism but coexist with them (well not so much with the Jews but thats to be expected lmao).
This >>17781722 has to be read in the context that both Christians and Jews are believers, its only heathens who shouldnt be fraternized with.
Unfortunately this changed over the centuries, especially after the crusades and Islam turned into a weird supremacist cult that has a creepy obsession with Christians.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:38:28 PM No.17781755
>>17781727
What happened to the Muslims in Iberia, Sicily and the Balkans?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:41:45 PM No.17781767
>>17781755
What were Muslims doing in Iberia, Sicily and the Balkans?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:45:06 PM No.17781780
>>17781767
What were Christians doing in the middle east? It was originally pagan
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:46:19 PM No.17781783
>>17781780
nuclear cope.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:48:35 PM No.17781789
>>17781780
>What are Muslims doing in Arabia? It was originally pagan
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:50:36 PM No.17781796
>>17781783
Sorry you fell about the common misconception that Christians spread peacefully, maybe this might’ve been true for the few few centuries or so but the moment they gained even a little power they persecuted everyone else much worse than the Muslims ever did
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:52:03 PM No.17781799
>>17781789
Christians make this stupid argument
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:52:07 PM No.17781800
>>17781796
So Muslims did persecute everyone else, gottcha.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:52:35 PM No.17781802
>>17781796
>Rome became brutal after evangelizing
>Rome became weak died after evangelizing
Which one is it, goatfucker?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:55:11 PM No.17781812
>>17781800
Yeah, but higher taxes is better than being killed. So we gave to specify what type of persecution happened
>>17781802
Rome was already weak, but that isnt the point
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:56:51 PM No.17781815
>>17781812
>muh taxes
Christians in the middle east payed the jizya. So what happened to them?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:58:10 PM No.17781817
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Imagine the meltie if muttshits in Europe had to pay an extra tax today.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 9:58:20 PM No.17781818
>>17781815
They willingly converted to the true religion of Islam
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:00:42 PM No.17781823
>mostly willing conversion
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:02:54 PM No.17781828
>>17781823
Indeed, there is literally zero evidence about the existence of the christian holocaust
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:04:49 PM No.17781830
>when mudslimes try to debate historicity

>Surah An-Nisa 157 - and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him—it was only made to appear so.1 Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever—only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:07:01 PM No.17781831
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>just pay the tax bro
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:50:08 PM No.17781894
>>17781727
>What happened to the Christian majority in the middle east?
They converted to Islam, Islam still encourages conversion to itself, obviously.
>What tax did the Christians in the Ottoman empire have to pay?
Jizya. Devshirme is not mandated by muslim law, and was a particularly turkish practice. In itself it could be justified by the fact it spreads Islam.
>Why arent Christians allowed to build churches and preach their faith among Muslims?
Because Islam happens to be the Truth (in their POV, not mine) and you cannot be allowed to stray from that and damn them to hell just because you are wrong. A muslim proselytist in Medieval Castille would be harshly punished for spreading Islam.
>>17781736
Oh wow, the Islamic State beheads Christians. I did not know they did that. Clearly it means every muslim ever wanted nothing more than to decapitate you in twine with a scimitar and piss on your body.
>Surah
These are the ones before and after that you seemed to omit.
>190- Fight in the cause of Allah ˹only˺ against those who wage war against you, but do not exceed the limits.1 Allah does not like transgressors.
>192 - But if they cease, then surely Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
>193 - Fight against them ˹if they persecute you˺ until there is no more persecution, and ˹your˺ devotion will be to Allah ˹alone˺. If they stop ˹persecuting you˺, let there be no hostility except against the aggressors.


Very curious, are you sure you haven't discovered the joys of Taqiyya yourself?
>>17781745
Non sequiteur. But true.

>>17781831
Eh. There are arguably equivalent systems in Christian societies.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:54:08 PM No.17781901
>>17781894
>Because Islam happens to be the Truth (in their POV, not mine) and you cannot be allowed to stray from that and damn them to hell
I thought Christians are people of the book?
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 10:59:02 PM No.17781913
>>17781901
They still think God is three people and reject Muhammad, people of the book are still religiously wrong. From a muslim POV.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:00:15 PM No.17781916
>>17781624 (OP)
>Arabic culture and language?
Because they think Muhammad is the last prophet. What they mean by this, is that Arabic is the only language that matters, and anyone from another culture is a Dhimmi and Jizya. The will tell you that Jizya no longer exists, but that is taqiyya.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:01:15 PM No.17781919
>>17781624 (OP)
I'm a devout Muslim who despises Arabs like he's being paid for and who prays in his native tongue. You don't have to suck up to sandniggers to follow Islam.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:01:28 PM No.17781920
>>17781916
*anyone from another culture is a Dhimmi who owes them Jizya.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:04:52 PM No.17781925
>>17781919
>I'm a devout Muslim who despises Arabs like he's being paid for and who prays in his native tongue.
>sandniggers
Why not just get baptized and stop larping then?
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:07:08 PM No.17781930
>>17781919
>I'm fucking confused.
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:17:38 PM No.17781946
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>>17781894
>A muslim proselytist in Medieval Castille would be harshly punished for spreading Islam
yeah, emphasis on Medieval. Muslims are still doing barbaric shit because their religion encourages barbarism
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:21:28 PM No.17781951
>>17781946
kek based
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:29:44 PM No.17781960
>>17781894
>The Islamic State beheads Christians
>Muslims don't hate Christians
When Muslims argue like jews.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:40:40 PM No.17781983
>>17781960
You call me a Jew but then willfully misinterpret a generalization, yes IS hates Christians, and Christian fundamentalists hate muslims. Punctiliousness is a very Jewish trait to have.
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:43:14 PM No.17781989
>>17781983
Everybody hates Muslims.
I wonder why
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Anonymous
6/21/2025, 11:51:48 PM No.17782003
What happened to the Christian majority in the Lebanon?
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:04:03 AM No.17782036
>>17782003
They got used as a cumrag by the Zionists then thrown away when they were no longer useful, a fitting end for christgolems.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:06:36 AM No.17782043
>>17782003
They convinced the French to annex nearby muslim territories into Lebanon. They also got ass raped by Israel. But all Lebs suffered through that.
If I'm not mistaken, it's customary for the prime minister to be Maronite and the President be muslim. Shia I think.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:12:05 AM No.17782055
>>17782036
>>17782043
Damn, what reason did Israel have to attack Lebanon?
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:19:05 AM No.17782072
>>17781989
Because unlike christkikes muslims didnt just genocide everyone they disagreed with, had they wiped out hindpooism and christkikery there would be less people bitching about muh muslim oppression
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:26:11 AM No.17782083
>>17782072
You seem like a reasonable fella and somebody everybody would love to have as a neighbour
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:30:10 AM No.17782089
>>17782083
Why does the truth make you seethe and cope