If Hart-Celler heavily relaxed immigration rules in the US as early as 1965, how come there seems to have been much less migration before 9/11 compared to after it?
Was it because flights were rarer and more costly in the late 20th century?
Or because the internet makes it easier to move across countries?
>>17781657 (OP)Do we even get that many actual literal africans? the asians didn't start coming over until their commie regimes loosened up or fell and allowed them to fuck off. the indian thing (probably global south in general) is due to the internet and the mega rich who own companies advertising so they can lower the wages for workers in the US
>>17781657 (OP)We started getting more Mexicans right away while others increased more slowly. Significant increases in immigration from any particular country or region were the result of things going on there that made people want to leave or them becoming the new hot location for procuring cheaper labor. The Vietnam War sent us an influx of southeast Asians well before 9/11. And silicon valley has brought us a bunch of indians after it.
>>17781692The most obvious specific nationality are the somalians. They're very prevalent in the trucking industry (which they use to facilitate sex trafficking) and there are a few cities with very large numbers of them. Africans from other countries are more dispersed, both in their origins and destinations. But there's been enough of them to help keep the black population from being eclipsed by everyone else like it otherwise would have been. And they've also started fucking up the argument for reparations as blackness has less and less ancestral relationship with slavery.
>>17781692Ive met a few Nigerians. They're usually in some medical field and came specifically to fill a skilled position, so no FOB retards looking for wagie jobs. They don't associate with American Blacks either.
>>17781739>Mexamerica was born in 1965Bullshit. The southwest remained majority White until the late 80s-mid 90s when NAFTA was signed. The devaluation of the peso followed and millions of retarded rural beaners entered illegally between 1994-2006. The biggest blow to demographics of the southwest was Reagan's amnesty towards millions of fucking illegals in 1986.
>>17781657 (OP)I don't know if you can actually make that claim. Before the 1910's all illegal immigration was from Jews, Italians, Irish, poles, Germans etc. After the Mexican revolution reduced Mexico into a cartel state they started flooding in by virtue of being next door. Plus Cubans were coming over in pallets. So it's not entirely accurate to say that the lack of airfare stopped illegal immigrants exploiting US immigration.
>>17781903>Before the 1910's all illegal immigration was from Jews, Italians, Irish, poles, Germans etc.there was no illegal immigration from those groups before 1924 because the US had open borders for everyone except asians. You should at least learn basic history before you try to make an argument about it.
>>17781906The US never had open borders. Ports like Boston and NYC illegally trafficked people into the US for immediate profit, they were literally paid to take them.
>>17781903>Irishall went downhill here by the way the GREEN (no they arent white) Irish race caused all the wests problems especialy USA and UK
>>17781972>and UKthe UK's problems are due to the fact that all bongs are cowardly homosexuals
>>17781906Anon, there were so many people coming to America illegally during that time that it led to the creation of the slur "WOP"
>>17781998Anybody under 30 has not heard that slur, and for good reason, it means "without papers" or "illegal immigrants". All Italians are called wops meaning it was considered by most people that all italians were illegal immigrants
>>17782039Point being the claim that italians, jews and irish are not illegals is simply caused by them being here for so long. Meaning it has long since been recognized that the US government illegally imports people for cheap labor and to vote against native wishes
>>17781739Completely wrong. Hart Cellar actually made it more difficult for Latin Americans to come, they were not restricted with the 1924 immigration act unlike European immigration.
>>17781909The US had virtually open borders with Europe until the Emergency Quota Act of 1921 and then the 1924 Immigration Act. If you were European and could get on a boat you could come to America. It was extremely lenient. You have absolutely zero idea what you’re saying.
>>17782008Nope it comes from Neapolitan guappo (pronounced woppo) meaning a playboy or a gangster
>>17781909>The US never had open borders.there literally was no limit on immigration whatsoever for the first 100 years, and only very minor limits for the 50 years after that
>>17782063US immigration before the 1890's required literacy in english, qualifications in a trade or business and money to get you on your feet. Virtually nobody entering the US today would pass this.
It's very easy to disprove that say, jews and italians were legal, because they never bothered to learn english. The largest newspaper in the US in the 20's for example was a yiddish communist revolutionary paper that stayed in circulation because nobody knew what it said.
>>17782062>woppoTo add to this Neapolitans drop the final vowel a lot or it is reduced to a schwa so it would just be wahp or wahp-uh
>>17782077No, it comes from the Neapolitan word guappo. That is a false etymology that has no record of its use before WW2 but that word was used since the early 20th century. There were practically no papers, the US had open borders pretty much until 1921 and then 1924.
>>17782059Much of the strategies are even the same as they were back then. Party bosses would rent out tenement houses to immigrants and hire them on the condition that they vote to keep the boss in power. Getting to uppity meant losing your job and housing, and potentially deportation.
Nowadays politicians use immigrants to boost their districts population to get more state+federal funding, giving them welfare benefits to keep them complacent and working with corporations to keep the stream of cheap labor flowing
>>17782091It does not matter what some random mayor said decades later. There were no immigration papers in 1892 because the US had quasi open borders to Europeans. Wop coming from without papers is a backronym and the etymology of the word is clear.
>>17782093Even if you claim there were no physical documents of immigrants entering ports, which is a lie, that doesn't mean there wasn't an immigration process
>>17782099There really wasn’t. It was an open border free for all system for all who weren’t part of certain banned criteria
>East Asians>political radicals>physically and mentally disabled people>a criminalThe process was just to be an able-bodied person from Europe and even Latin America without a criminal record. This is basic history.
>>17782103>It's basic history Post a single source that says the US didn't have any immigration policies that could be broken
I assume you havent heard of naturalization?
>>17781657 (OP)>Hart-CellerHe is of jewish descent by the way
>>17781667This.
fpbp
>>17782172>And?It's relevant if there's something within the faith, or askhenazi jewish blood, or wider jewish culture that makes them do these kinds of things near constantly, such as perhaps Tikkun Olam
>>17782073>US immigration before the 1890's required literacy in englishthere weren't federal immigration laws before the 1890s, and it was a major question as to whether congress even had the power to legislate on immigration since the constitution gives congress power to legislate on naturalization but says nothing about immigration. Again you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>17781692Not that many, but I've met some before.
>>17781667this, always this, and only this
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>>17782220Again there were naturalization acts meaning immigration was regulated. Failing to meet naturalization requirements meant you weren't actually a citizen. I imagine since the nation's founding there were a lot of "sovereign citizens" in the major port cities. Interestingly women were denied even becoming citizens when the US was first founded
>>17782233It was called Freedom and it was created by a representative of jewish communists in eastern europe that were crucial in the 1905 revolution. Yiddish communist support in the US was actually fairly critical for funding jewish communism in eastern europe
>>17782116Naturalization was extremely simple. It was not a rigorous process at all and was mostly conducted through local courts and then after 1906 it became federal. 5 years of residence and your name and country of birth and other biographical details. There was not a strict immigration system or any real limits before 1921 and 1924. I don’t know why you’re so in denial of basic historical facts and want to pretend like there was some super exclusionary immigration policy before that time.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/United_States_Naturalization_and_Citizenship
>>17782254Anons don't seem to understand that a strict immigration system was unnecessary before the advent of modern transportation.
>>17782254People weren't let into the country unless they already had the qualities of becoming a citizen, naturalization was just making them wait for citizenship. Letting in people that didn't know english and had no trade skills was illegal and the port authorities knew it which is why they were paid 300 dollars for every shipload of disabled rapists with syphilis they dropped off from england's prisons
>>17782138Based jews giving my family the fair chance to move to America.
>>17782272>>>/r/eddit4chan is only for real Americans.
>>17782272*based jews legalizing illegal immigration and calling it amnesty for "refugees" and then creating chain migration so that their entire loser family can come over and scam the government's welfare system
>>17782275>Ronald Reagan was a jewTerminal case of jewish derangement syndrome.
>>17782279>posts in hart celler thread>duh, rondan thrumpgun brilliant, it's a twitter poster
Cause of the fertility rate. The baby boom ended around 1960 and the fertility rate began a rapidly accelerating plummet, year-on-year, that started to terrify political scientists. It spelled disaster for the economy and the country long-term. It wasn't just the fact the fertility rate was falling, it's that it was falling FAST. They predicted that it'd drop to a historic low, well below replacement level, within 20 years. And they were right: it happened within 15 years. By 1980 the US fertility rate was a mere 1.78 births per woman.
So if you're wondering why mass, unrestricted immigration suddenly became more commonplace in the latter 20th century, that's why.
>>17781782Would you take dirty jobs in India over USA wagie jobs?
>>17782285Here's an idea, the "baby boom" was never real and they invented it to account for all the illegal aliens they started counting as citizens
>>17782240immigration and naturalization are not the same thing
>>17781692Africans were, ironically, never really subject to harsh immigration laws in pre-1965 America. No fucking joke, it was probably easier for some Nigerian fella to move into 1930s USA than it would've been for a German Jew professor.
>>17782338Ports are the sole authority on who comes into the country, that's why they call the southern entrance into the US "ports of entry". If a port goes AWOL, like NYC or Boston did, or eventually any major city on the east coast, and start letting in illegals for cash, there's nothing anybody in the US can do about it
>>17782240Barely. This has been explained to you now several times. There was not a strict system.
>>17782093That's not technically what a backronym is according to Wikipedia
>>17782198Tikkun Olam is why tranny shit is being pushed
>>17781692Or maybe Britain should have retained a grip on India so they wouldn't have a reason to come here.
>>17782279>>Ronald Reagan was a jewhe was
>>17782351musk literally said he hires indians and wants more indians because they work 80 hours a week for less pay than Americans. there is legit no reason to want h1bs or illegals unless you are a business owner who is looking for scabs
>well the indians must be doing wellthey aren't, teslas are fucking garbage and all of musk's companies are fucking garbage that don't work. he relies on government contracts to make money
>>17782799rich bankers would still import them to break unions
>>17782138It's Hart and Celler. They're not a single Congressman
>>17782855Too bad rightoid NPCs like you spent the last 20 years labelling anyone a "communist" for saying richfags are a problem. Now that richfags are YOUR problem they're too safeguarded by power they were given to answer for it. Enjoy your jeets.
>>17783813the solution you communists have for rich bankers is to give them more money and power.
>>17783824>you communistsRetard. Enjoy your jeets.
>>17782751>there was not a strict system>because NYC and boston ignored immigration requirements for payoutsso there was a system, the shithole port cities just ignored them and flooded the US with dysgenics
>>17783902you are the retard here, commie
>>17783925>you>you areProjection + cope. Richfags are diddling kids and importing jeets and you're just a broken record.
>>17782306new neolib cope just dropped
>>17783824>"richfags like Musk are the problem"yeah you're right, richfags like Musk are the problem
>"NOOOO YOU JUST WANT TO GIVE THEM MORE MONEY"huh?
>>17783927those are dems and they are putting a stop to it
>>17783935he literally got fired and I'm in favor of seizing his assets and deporting him
>>17781667Leftards hate how simple our ideology is. They need endless jew-written theses to believe anything. But the Right Winger, the free ideologue, simply observes the truth. What can be seen is irrefutable. Rightism is irrefutable.
>>17784115>right wing is when you hate jewsI mistook you for a serious person for a moment.
>>17782275but us has the worst welfare system in western world?
>>17784208In terms of outcome? You could say that, but at the same time, the welfare state never really works as expected, it's always mostly scammers and genuinely lazy people who are fed by it
>>17784208the US is just that much better than a third world country like yurop
>>17781739Reparations was linage/ethnicity so they if anything considering they don't even call themselves black
>>17782138>>17781667Are implying the majority of congress A:were jews and B:didn't read the act and just was sway by the speeches of the Jew proposing the bill?
>>17785231This is false. Welfare fraud exists but it's not common. Most people who get public assistance aren't solely reliant on it, have jobs or look for them, and are on and off assistance
>>17785778Welfare fraud is very common, especially with old people. they love it if they have federal welfare because they always keep them the max amount allowed by the government
>>17785778welfare and medicare/medicaid fraud are rampant. basically everyone on welfare is defrauding the government and most hospitals and doctors defraud medicare and medicaid
>>17785771>muh congress aren't jewsDoesn't mean anything.
There's always Jewish shit running in the background whether that's AIPAC or something else
>>17785922Are you implying Whites have no agency and they were tricked into being pawns by Jews?
