Was Grover Cleveland the last Democrat to not hate America and to not actively work towards destroying the country?

>Inherits a runaway situation of rail subsidized by the republican US civil war controlling most of people's financial lives during a period of massive efficiency increases in manufacturing and deflation and massive tariffs unfairly targeting farmers
>farmers complain about rail rates
>republican congress gives control to regulate rail to the federal government
>republican congress initiates land reform on indian reservations
>wins second election despite not doing anything
>inherits republican caused economic crash from tariffs and rail speculation
>looks into the coup of the Hawaiian monarch by the republicans and demands a reversal

Honestly he was an ineffectual liberal retard

>>17781969
>ineffectual
would still make him better than any dem who came after him since they were all actively and intentionally evil and America hating

Obama

>>17781938 (OP)
Truman

>>17781938 (OP)
>>17781986
>America hating
What does that even mean?

>>17782273
Being a republican until the 1910's

Grover Cleveland is not a great statesman nor a
man of any marked ability. but he is prudent, safe and conscien-
cious in the performance of his public duties. There is every reason
to believe that the Republicans will make a wise nomination and
put forward a sensible platform. Should this prove to be the case
it ought to affect the stock market favorably, for the country would
be safe no matter who was elected.

The Democratic platform is full of glittering generalities and is
intended as such documents usually are to catch votes without com-
mitting the party to any definite lines of policy. The commitments
in favor of Civil Service Reform are of course insincere. Neither the
Democratic nor the Republican politicians are in favor of the aboli-
tion of the spoils system, for they are all after the "loaves and
fishes." The plank about "trusts" is pure demagoguery, and the
claim that this administration has appropriated more money in pen-
sions than any previous Republican administration is one that ought
to discredit the Democratic party with the country. There are no new
issues raised of any value, and the reaffirmation of the platitudes in
former Democratic platforms have neither novelty nor point. Still
we have no notion that the Republican platform will be any
improvement to the one we are criticizing. The Chicago poloti-
cians will thrash over the old straw. Our national politics are now
on a very low level, and our professional statesmen of both parties
seem to prefer to dwell upon the dead past rather than the living
present, or the splendid possibilities of the future of our country.

>>17782549
Mr. Cievelaud personally is much stronger than his party. It is usual to re-elect Presidents for a second term who have done fairly well during the first four years, and this feeling will help Mr.
Cleveland in the ensuing canvass. Thurman's name on the ticket
win be worth tens of thousands of votes for Mr, Cleveland. Still,
we suspect that the American people are wedded to the policy of
building up home industries, so as to become commercially inde-
pendent of England, The decided free trade drift of Democratic
sentiment is unmistakable, but it m a y be premature. Some time or
other the United States will stand for absolute free intercourse
between nations, but not until our own manufacturing industries
are so far developed as to enable us to withstand British competition.

>>17782554
Prince Kapotkin, the Socialist and Nihilist, has an article on the
decay of British trade in an English magazine which it is surprising
has not been republished in our daily journals, for it is a very able
presentation of facts which have a bearing on the economic discus-
sions now going on in and out of Congress, This writer gives sta-
tistics to show that English manufactured products are losing ground
in all civilized and semi-civilized nations; which latter, by means
of protective tariffs, are creating home markets. The tendency in
all countries is to establish manufactures so as to insure a large
domestic consumption for agricultural products. During the past
three-quarters of a century the industries of the several nations
were specialized. Great Britain supplied the world with cotton,
ironware and coal, Belgium with woolen cloth, France with arti-
cles of luxury and wines. This was under an era of comparatively
free trade.

>>17782565
*I^-apotkin
>Kropotkin
Kropotkin

>>17782565
But for the last quarter of a century a reverse movement has
been in progress, and each nation by protective tariffs has entered
into competition with the countries which have heretofore had the
monopoly of them. In 1861 Russia had 14,600 manufactories, which
produced goods to the annual value of $180,000,000. In 1884 the
value of manufactured Russian products reached $775,000,000.
That great Northern power not only practically prohibits the intro-
duction of English goods into her territories, but competes with the
same nation in every part of Asia. France is a highly protected
nation, and before the German indemnity and the ravages of the
phylloxera was the most prosperous one in Europe. Germany not
only protects her home manufactures b u t is competing sharply
with England in all the markets of the world. British imports of
cotton into Brazil have fallen off about $5,000,000 per annum in
four years. India has over 80,000,000 spindles in the cotton manu-
factories, when twenty years ago it had not 35,000.

>>17782549
>Our national politics are now on a very low level, and our professional statesmen of both parties seem to prefer to dwell upon the dead past rather than the living present
yeah yeah they couldn't get over the Civil War we know

>>17782577
Four years ago they succeeded, in conjunction with
other journals, in detaching a large body of voters from tho Republican
party and inducing them to cast their ballots tor Mr. Cleveland. Their
battle cry was "Civil Service Reform," and they utilized the current dis-
trust of Mr. Blaine and the old party methods with which he was associa-
ted to help the Democratic nominee. After the election of the latter they
showed wisdom, in asking nothing of the administration except t h a t it
should stand by Civil Service Reform. For three years Mr. Cleveland was
loyal to his pledges, but when he became a candidate for re-election he was
forced to surrender to tbe politicians of bis own party. There has been no
pretense of any Civil Service Reform since he dismissed Commissioner
Sparks and wrote the letter sustaining the nomination of John R. Fellows.

>>17781938 (OP)
>Was Grover Cleveland the last Democrat to not hate America and to not actively work towards destroying the country?
Well, I suppose you could argue Wilson acted out of compulsion to his debtors more than anything. The others seem to have actively wanted to destroy what makes the country great through various dastard schemes concocted to undermine different aspects of it, and the fervor of simmering hatred that sometimes seems to tip over into outright contempt as they seem to just want to make America and her rights "go away," seems to become increasingly apparent as time goes on. See for example how they (and their supporters) seem to mutter and rage against the First and Second Amendment to the Constitution as an example: they are practically exuding contempt for American freedoms. They seem therefore to be willing to go to any length that may allow them to extinguish them, and thus, to chase after a permanent centralization of power under their control and that of their loathesomely disingenuous political machine.

This seems to have become the dynamic at some point between the second term of Cleveland in the 1890s and the first of FDR in the 1930s.

>>17782146
>>17782237
both of them hated Americans and did whatever they could do to make life worse for the average American
>>17782273
it means they tried to make life worse for the average American because they dislike Americans

>>17782734
wilson was anti gun apparently and he created the fed because he hated Americans and he was the first president to have a wide spread draft*, because he hated Americans and sent Americans to die in a foreign war

*>in b4 some retard tries to say lincoln. only 2% of union troops were drafted, 6% were paid draft replacements and 92% were volunteers. For WWI 70% of soliders were drafted

>>17781938 (OP)
yeah

>>17782826
How specifically did they make life worse?

>>17783248
obongo increased the price of healthcare way beyond inflation
truman was embezzling government funds and started the world police shit. was only the third president to send American conscripts to die in a foreign war since we didn't have a major draft until 1916. pretty sure he also invoked whatever law let's presidents break strikes a record number of times and the next highest isn't even in the same ballpark and he recognized israel
Truman wasn't even popular in his own time. hence the dewey defeats truman polls, him not running for another term even though he wasn't term limited and the presidential pension existing specifically for him because he was living in poverty after leaving the white house.
you would think the guy who won WWII and followed FDR would be popular with the American people

>>17783293
>truman was embezzling government funds and started the world police shit
I think that would have been inevitable since the US was seeking to displace Britain and France as the world superpower.

>>17783299
Ike took office in 53 and immediately stopped the world police shit. he ended the korean war and he told france, the jews and the bongs to get the fuck out of africa when they tried to start a war in egypt

>>17781938 (OP)
Last acceptable US president

>>17783329
*cough*Lebanon1958*cough*

>>17783495
Did any nonCIA spook Americans die? because it only counts if nonCIA spook Americans die.
and I mean Americans, I don't give a fuck if a billion non American natives die

yeah

>>17781938 (OP)
FDR loved Americans and worked hard to improve their lives, maybe that's hating "America" though because "America" to you just means the ruling class

>>17784621
FDR despised Americans and did all he could to fuck over the average American and make their lives worse for the benefit of the ruling class

>>17783329
>Ike took office in 53 and immediately stopped the world police shit
Meds. America never stopped being the world police.

>>17784655
what foreign war did Ike get the US into?

>>17784635
>social security only benefits the ruling class
Retard

>>17785177
>social security is the only thing he did
not to mention the fact that social security is literally a ponzi scheme that is failing because too many boomers are getting old, faggot

>>17785466
So how did the silent generation and boomers not benefit from social security?

>>17785645
died of lead

>>17781938 (OP)
I’ve been fcking hoes and popping pillies man I feel just like a rock star

>>17781938 (OP)

That would be Truman

>>17786186

JFK was a terrible fucking president.

>>17787699
>Truman
recognizes israel and sent American conscripts to die in Korea

>>17785702
All of them? Got proof?

>>17783293
>you would think the guy who won WWII and followed FDR
Reminder that Truman only met FDR twice and wasn't considered important enough to inform about the bomb until he got the office by default.

>>17788164
Truman was a concession VP pick for Republicans and conservative Democrats so they wouldn't throw a hissy fit about running for a fourth term. Otherwise FDR would have just kept Henry Wallace on board instead and we'd probably be living in Star Trek by now (eikther that or the postwar conservative congressional chimpout would have been even worse, whatever)

>>17788195
more like the US would have fallen into a second depression because socialism never works

>>17788195
Wallace turned to the right after the war anyway and became a Nixon supporter and opposed gommunism.

>>17788195
they picked him because he was an inoffensive folksy Midwesterner who also got some positive press for leading investigations into war profiteering by defense contractors

>>17788204
>New Deal Keynesianism leads directly to peak Americana 2.3 kids in a house with a white picket fence tradfags want to RETVRN to so badly
>Neoliberalism leads to the absolute fucking state of the world we know and loathe today

>>17788216
nope. FDRs actions made the depression worse and longer and it was only WWII's lean lease and then bombing every factory in the world that made the US a powerhouse in the 50s.
socialism is evil and never works