When Muslim conquer non-Muslim land:

Tolerance is followed, non-Muslimd are allowed to live freely (with a few restrictions such as no proselytism) are incorporated into the state bureoucracy and many times rise to proeminent status such as governors, high generals and scientists

When judeochristians conquer non-judeochristian lands: Genocides, mass murders and other atrocities based on race and religion are followed, the non-judeochristians get all their property stolen and are given the choice to either flee or die, their temples of worship are destroyed and their memory erased from history, their lands are given to judeochristian settler colonizers

Why does this happen? Is it because Muslims followed Quranic rules of war where non-combatants should be left alone whereas judeochristians follow noahide ones where genocide is encouraged?

Muslims are the most merciful conquerors of history

>>17783472
Is that they always did the opposite in conquest?

>>17783480
Judeochristian projection

Every accusation is a confession

Muslim conquests were relatively bloodless, the only crimes done by Muslim empires was Armenian genocide and the responsible were atheists inspired by judeochristian european ethnonationalism

>>17783471 (OP)
In medieval times muslims saw judeochristian europeans (franks) as barbaric bloodthirsty monsters, and not much has changed since then

>>17783483
>No, they didn't because... They just didn't, OK!?!
>A-And because I'm a pussy who's scared of being proven wrong, I'll admit that we did commit genocides, b-but they were influenced, OK!?! They just were!!!
>7 more self replies by the namefag OP

>>17783471 (OP)
All these seem pretty reasonable except infants, children, elderly and animals

Okay there, guy

>>17783483
Tatar slave raids
Barbary piracy
Almohads' forced conversion
I could go on

>>17783483
nigga pls

>>17783582
>Tatar slave raids
Mongol descedants who happened to convert. They just inherited Mongol brutality, and the m*scovites did worse to innocent Tatars historically

>Barbary pirates
A nothing burguer inflated by alt-rightists today as a gotcha to western liberals who talk about trans atlantic slavery, and knights of Malta and Iberians also raided Maghrebi coasts and took slaves

>Almohads
Ok I admit these were turbo retards and the ISIS of their time and actually ruined the advanced Andalusian civilization

>>17783471 (OP)
>Judges 6:1-6

>6 The Israelites did evil in the eyes of the Lord, and for seven years he gave them into the hands of the Midianites. 2 Because the power of Midian was so oppressive, the Israelites prepared shelters for themselves in mountain clefts, caves and strongholds. 3 Whenever the Israelites planted their crops, the Midianites, Amalekites and other eastern peoples invaded the country. 4 They camped on the land and ruined the crops all the way to Gaza and did not spare a living thing for Israel, neither sheep nor cattle nor donkeys. 5 They came up with their livestock and their tents like swarms of locusts. It was impossible to count them or their camels; they invaded the land to ravage it. 6 Midian so impoverished the Israelites that they cried out to the Lord for help.

a random selection from that image, proving you're a liar. Without lies, Islam dies.

>>17783507
They didn’t, even the persecution of Armenians had nothing to do with religion and happened because they rebelled and tried to partition Turkey with the help of the west. The real genocide was Balkan muslims being killed or expelled solely because of religion.

>>17783643
Deuteronomy ia very clear ordering the chosenites to genocide and rape little canaanite girls

With no genocides and atrocities, judeochristianity would never exist

>>17783706
Where are you getting "rape" from? Also, explain to me why these Canaanites were ordered for extinction. I'll wait.

>>17783688
Don't be like the westoid judeochristians, ahki. Let's not sugarcoat our own wrongdoings, Armenians got collective punished for what a few traitors did

The hatred and rage over what judeochristians were doing to innocent Turks in Balkans did fuel it but one wrong should not justify another

>>17783707
Judeochristian god yhwh tells the chosen jewish master race to kill everyone except little girls to be taken as concubines

Canaanites were genocided because they were protopalestinians, a people living in the land the jewish supremacists coveted

>>17783483
Pakistani Bro…let me remind you that Pakistan, Afghanistan and Northern India had peaceful Buddhists residing there until Islam came over and wiped them all out. India did not have a significant Buddhist presence from the Muslim invasions a thousand years ago until the last century, thanks to Goeka, Ambedkar and the Dalai Lama taking refuge in India.

The only figments of the old Indian Buddhism are pockets of Theravada Buddhism present the eastern parts (associated with Myanmar’s tradition) and the southern tip (associated with Sri Lanka’s tradition), both locations that were difficult for the Muslims to get to due to terrain and strong kingdoms.

>>17783711
That was Moses directive to take the unspoiled women, not God's. It's the same shit as why there laws put in the act of slavery, because God didn't come up with slavery, the people did.

The poor little Canaanites you want to frame as unfortunate victims were engaged in Baal worship. What is Baal worship?
Child sacrifice:
Jeremiah 19:5:
>“They have built the high places of Baal to burn their children in the fire as offerings to Baal”
2 Kings 17:17:
“They sacrificed their sons and daughters in the fire”

Cultic prostitution to induce "blessings"
Hosea 4:13–14
>“Your daughters turn to prostitution… because the men themselves consort with harlots and sacrifice with shrine prostitutes"

Idolatry in the form of worshiping other gods, the worship of necromancy.

Homosexuality:
1 Kings 14:24:
>“There were also male shrine prostitutes in the land; the people engaged in all the detestable practices of the nations the Lord had driven out before the Israelites.”
Deuteronomy 23:17–18
>“No Israelite man or woman is to become a shrine prostitute. You must not bring the earnings of a male or female prostitute into the house of the Lord”

Bestiality:
The Baal Cycle, a poem from the Canaanites:
>Mightiest Baal hears; He makes love with a heifer in the outback, A cow in the field of Death’s Realm.

>He lies with her seventy times seven, Mounts eighty times eight; She conceives and bears a boy.

Those poor good ole people from the Canaanite region. How sad.

>>17783744
>these people did things i dont like
>so i have the right to genocide them
The religion of peace

>>17783752
>Dude, it's totally okay to burn your children alive for a false god, it's total copestetic!
This is your brain on anti-Christianity

>>17783754
>they sacrifice their children thats so heckin evil
>lets kill their children for that
>wow were the good guys amirite

>>17783764
Show me one line in the Old Testament where God condones killing children for the fuck of it, like the Canaanites did. The filth was purged clean, the heirs of offspring was denied to the disgusting Canaanites. No lineage from their males would be granted to them. Too bad, so sad, take your moral outrage and shove it up your ass.

>>17783772
Two wrongs don’t make a right. Genocide is never moral no matter the circumstances.

>>17783787
That's for God to decide, not your weepy concerned soccer mom protests. Genocides not ordained by God, I agree, it isn't right, but this was entirely different.

>>17783793
So the benevolent, loving God thinks genocide is morally righteous? Doesn’t sound so loving after all

>>17783471 (OP)
I thought they got more money out of people by taxing them for practicing other religions. Maybe that was just the Turks

>>17783808
My guy, I'm flat out telling you they BURNED BABIES ALIVE FOR A FALSE GOD. There is HISTORICAL evidence that support this, you don't even need Biblical scripture to confirm that for you. Why do you want to take umbrage with God, when he was never the one that wanted that kind of shit to happen for his people? Yes, he genocided the people, including the women and children, to serve as a harsh lesson to those who would go from his ways. He had to, these were savage times with people who barely had a clue in their heads. He gave wonders and signs to Moses tribes and they still were a stubborn people that bitched and complained and ultimately still fell into the same Baal worship that their enemies did. It doesn't sugarcoat anything, it's setting a precedent for the criticism of the land and people until the coming of Jesus Christ.

Ask yourself this question: The people died, the women, men, and children that lived in the Canaanite lands. Do you truly think that God being who he is would arbitrarily decide "You know what? Send the children's souls to hell". Is that what you believe he did, or did he simply take them out of the physical world in use for a greater statement? Is there anything to say that those same children aren't with God in heaven as we speak?

>>17783471 (OP)
Muslims were better at ruling multi-ethnic/multi-religious societies for sure (see the longevity of the Ottoman Empire) but these societies were not multikulti havens of tolerance. The state was Muslim supremacist with the non-Muslims (Dhimmi) subjected to higher taxes, Nazi-tier humiliations (e.g. having to wear distinctive clothing), and occasional pogroms/massacres if the elites ever felt they were ever getting a bit uppity. You also had shit like their children being arbitrarily taken as slaves by the state under the Devshire/Enderun/Harem systems. The Muslim approach was progressive for the Middle Ages but was incapable of creating the kind of ecumenical civic nationalism that you needed to hold a state together after the Enlightenment.
>t. Turk

>>17783471 (OP)

>>17783956
>wikipedia shitty article written by a butthurt judeochristian balkanshit

Lmfao, it's well documented Mehmet II forbade sacking the city as he wanted to rebuild and restore it

>>17783865
Muslim and other minorities in judeochristian lands had the option to convert, die or leave

Sometimes not even convert as the spanish genocided the moriscos (judeochristian moors)

>>17783471 (OP)
Let's take a look at muslim countries today. Hmmm that's strange there's only muslims living there and no other minority religions. Wonder why that is.

>>17783978
Egypt is like 20% judeochristian

European racist are freaking out over starving refugees fleeing the invasions they supported that represent less than 5% of the european peninsula

Judeo-christians europeans up until the 90s were literally doing genocidal campaigns on bosnia, albania, chechnya, etc...

Muslims are much more tolerant and kind than judeochristian westerners

>>17783971
Okay can you show me one of these documents?

>>17783986
A literal western source

https://www.britannica.com/event/Fall-of-Constantinople-1453

>>17784006
Not what I asked. The three days of pillage were recorded by both ottoman and christian chroniclers. Tursun Beg wrote about it in his histories on Mehmet. Leonard of Chios reports 60,000 enslaved. Critobulus reports 50,000. Several eye-witnesses wrote about it.
>inb4 it didn't happen

>>17784029
>60,000
That was virtually the double of the total city's population at the time lmfao

>>17783471 (OP)
Judeochristian isn't really a thing
Christians historically (generally) force converted conquered peoples, full ethnic cleansing wasn't unheard of but the Christian world is full of peoples who became Christian because their ancestors got conquered
Judaism, unfortunately, has savage, Assyrian-inspired ideas about the laws of war, and (unlike other areas of Jewish thought) the lack of an actual Jewish state from 70 to 1948 meant rabbis had no real reason to soften them or engage with the issue.
I think that's one of the reasons Israel, despite the optimism and humanistic views of many of its founders (Herzl imagined anti-Arab bigots getting BTFO in elections) became such a humanitarian disaster.