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Why is Bronze Age Greece so underrated and slept on?

>>17788890 (OP)
Basically due the Nordicism

>>17788890 (OP)
Pop culture hasn't bothered with it since Troy. I know we had the fucking Vikings bullshit during the 2020s but I can't even think what the latest pop history trend is desu.

>>17789006
See? Racist Europhobes can't handle the Doric invasion.

>>17789050
>viking bs
Thats more like since the 2010s

>>17788890 (OP)
Everything before the Punic Wars is considered esoteric deep history.

>>17789084
But only in Europe. We have to take everything from the middle east as gospel even when the scientific instrumentation data defies it. Or when common sense does.

>>17789052
There's no dorian invasion

>>17789099
Why did Greeks say their was? Why are you lying about it? We both know the answer: You're a Europhobic racist.

>>17789099
Why did Greeks say there was? Why are you lying about it? We both know the answer: You're a Europhobic racist.

>>17789105
Because dorians were ethnically the same as other greeks

>>17788890 (OP)
>Minoan women without their tits out
Coward artist

>>17789052
>dorians wuz nordic an shieet

>>17789105
>>17789052
Give it up, nordicist. You only make yourself look more like a fool.

>>17789050
>I can't even think what the latest pop history trend is desu.
Afro-primitivism. The establishment will attempt to push a narrative that the violent fear-based religions of Africa (and descendants) are actually deep and wise and have something to teach that modern white-science is unable to understand (and it'll be fat black women who espouse this "wisdom"). Don't believe me, look at the movie sinners.

A lot of my uploads are failing... I'm wondering if they're being censored...

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>>17789424
10 year old forum images when we have a wealth of genetic evidence now. It’s so sad.

>>17789424
See I put blonde hair on a bunch of curly haired med people in Photoshop, that means they were Nordic. Just disregard the fact they now look like a bunch uncanny drag queens since their facial traits don't match the gay ass blonde hair at all. Start being proud of your own "culture" of being illiterate mudhut dwelling barbarians for millennia, Shitlerite

>>17788890 (OP)
>>17789050
Immortals and every Hercules movie takes place during the same time period as the Trojan war, Conan the Barbarian isn't technically from the same time period but it's thematically similar.

>>17789006
The idea that light-haired people didn't exist in Southern Europe in the past despite being relatively common now is the delusional perspective.

>>17790109
That doesn't mean they were ''nordic'', nordic people couldn't write nor read and were living in mudhuts at the time of the Romans, also their facial features were completely different, nordoids tend to have short noses, high foreheads, straight hair. Romans predominant phenotype is curly hair and aquiline noses, those are med features.
Imagine if southern europeans pointed at dark haired people in Germany and Scandinavia and were like ''that means Germany and Scandinavia are med like us!'', it would be utterly retarded, but that's ''nordicism'' for you

>>17790109
There's nothing "Bronze age" About conan the barbarian you absolute retard
How is it "themetically similar"? Conan wears medieval armor in the stories and most of the kingdoms in the Hyborian age are medieval inspired.
Howard didn't even particularly like the bronze age, bronze age greece in particular he really didn't care much for

>>17790179
Sethian cultists didn't exist in the medieval era retard and the whole "globalist network of semitic snake cultists establishing themselves as a priest class over steppe aryan people, slave raiding european villages" is a very bronze age thing. You're a literal retard if you watch Conan the Barbarian and think it comes off "medieval" instead of some very early iron age/late bronze age setting.

>>17790204
>Sethian cultists didn't exist in the medieval era retard and the whole "globalist network of semitic snake cultists establishing themselves as a priest class over steppe aryan people, slave raiding european villages" is a very bronze age thing.
The snake cultists don't even come from the conan stories they come from Kull you absolute retard
>You're a literal retard if you watch Conan the Barbarian and think it comes off "medieval" instead of some very early iron age/late bronze age setting.
Absolute low IQ retard thinks the conan movie is accurate to what howard wrote
Too illiterate to read stories written in pulp magazines in the 1930s
>The king and his allies moved westward at the head of fifty thousand men—knights in shining armor with their pennons streaming above their helmets, pikemen in steel caps and brigandines, cross-bowmen in leather jerkins. They crossed the border, took a frontier castle and burned three mountain villages, and then, in the valley of the Valkia, ten miles west of the boundary line, they met the hosts of Conan, king of Aquilonia—forty-five thousand knights, archers and men-at-arms, the flower of Aquilonian strength and chivalry.
Yeah knights and castles are really bronze age. Retard
>And while the fallen king stared with burning eyes that reflected the bitter rage and humiliation that ate his heart, the squires stripped Valannus of mail shirt, burganet and leg-pieces, and clad him in Conan's armor of black plate-mail, with the vizored salade, and the dark plumes nodding over the wyvern crest. Over all they put the silken surcoat with the royal lion worked in gold upon the breast, and they girt him with a broad gold-buckled belt which supported a jewel-hilted broadsword in a cloth-of-gold scabbard.
Yeah all this armor sounds really close to what they wore in the bronze age
Imbecile

>>17790179
>Howard didn't even particularly like the bronze age
lol

>>17790227
COPE ESL retard who thinks the conan movies are accurate or good
I was, as always, much interested in your remarks concerning the classical world, of which I know so little. What a city Alexandria must have been! I had no idea of the origin of the word parchment. As I’ve said before, your letters are an actual education for me. Some day I must try to study the ancient Grecian world. Its always seemed so vague and unreal to me, in contrast to the roaring, brawling, drunken, bawdy chaos of the Middle Ages in which my instincts have always been fixed. When I go beyond the Middle Ages, my instincts veer to Assyria and Babylon, where again I seem to visualize a bloody, drunken, brawling, lecherous medley. My vague instincts towards classical Greece go no further than a dim impression of calm, serene white marble statues in a slumbering grove. Though I know the people of the classic times must have wenched and brawled and guzzled like any other people, but I can not concieve of them. The first mythology I ever read was that of Greece, but even then it seemed apart and impersonal, without the instinctive appeal I later found in Germanic mythology.
Howard didn't like bronze age greece

>>17790237
>>Howard didn't even particularly like the bronze age
I'm another Anon, retard, and that claim is blatantly false

>>17789301
this is iron age, retard

greeks have no claim to minoans you fucking history thief

>>17790287
>I'm another Anon, retard, and that claim is blatantly false
I'll post this again because you're such an illiterate retard
>I was, as always, much interested in your remarks concerning the classical world, of which I know so little. What a city Alexandria must have been! I had no idea of the origin of the word parchment. As I’ve said before, your letters are an actual education for me. Some day I must try to study the ancient Grecian world. Its always seemed so vague and unreal to me, in contrast to the roaring, brawling, drunken, bawdy chaos of the Middle Ages in which my instincts have always been fixed. When I go beyond the Middle Ages, my instincts veer to Assyria and Babylon, where again I seem to visualize a bloody, drunken, brawling, lecherous medley. My vague instincts towards classical Greece go no further than a dim impression of calm, serene white marble statues in a slumbering grove. Though I know the people of the classic times must have wenched and brawled and guzzled like any other people, but I can not concieve of them. The first mythology I ever read was that of Greece, but even then it seemed apart and impersonal, without the instinctive appeal I later found in Germanic mythology.
these are howard's words to lovecraft
If howard loved the bronze age so much then why did he only write less than ten stories set in the bronze age but he wrote over fifty set in the middle ages?

>>17789447
>most powerful gods are black haired
>only athena has light eyes
Based

>>17790477
No one cares idiot. When people think of Conan the Barbarian they think of the movies and video games which all mostly present an early iron age/late bronze age culture/society aesthetic.

>>17790504
>No one cares idiot
Cope for being an illiterate ESL
>When people think of Conan the Barbarian they think of the movies and video games which all mostly present an early iron age/late bronze age culture/society aesthetic.
Imagine being filtered by short stories written in the thirties.
Imagine not being able to read stories written by a texan hick.

>>17789426
Fake nordicist copium. You are more pathetic than an afrocentrist Jamal. No wonder they call you snowniggers.

>>17790301
Saar, greeks were nordic in like the pleistocene, you must beliv

You know what those nordicist dorks remind me of, that episode of Dexter with the used car salesman who comes up with new lies on the spot and Dexter goes ''It's like watching someone ski moguls. You just hop from one lie to the next. No shame, no embarrassment. You just - don't - give a shit.''

>>17788890 (OP)
No literature.

>>17789171
saami and other uralic people. n1 is not IE, it became euro through interaction with IE. while both may originate near baikal, the mal'ta pop is the definitive origin of white people/europeans and native american people.

>>17788890 (OP)
It might be the fact we have almost no records and academics are super stingy about publicizing new historical data outside of Journals unless it can be """confirmed""" that everyone was gay or brown.

>>17792050
Nordicist copium

>>17788890 (OP)
There's just not enough data on it. We have no written histories, mythology, philosophy, or other literature from them. All we have are some buried ruins, rusty artifacts, and occasional tax records of which half we can't even translate. About all we can say is "They seemed to have liked Bulls a lot" and what can be inferred about the "Palace Economies" based on how their settlements were organized.

>>17792192
It's at best, a cool style of aesthetics if you feel like white pillars and chitons are too boring when depicting ancient greece.
I would however love to see someone make a bronze age greece mythology adaptation where Poseidon is a chthonic deity and Hades doesn't exist, just for the confusion it would cause

>>17790608
TRVTHNVKE

>>17792214
there is a shred of truth to that since jews are italians

>>17792243
So Nords are ruled by South Italians? Lmao.

>>17792213
>no tits
Historical inaccuracy is immoral

>>17788890 (OP)
>Why is Bronze Age Greece so underrated and slept on?

It's effectively pre-historic. All we know about it comes from archaeology and Greek myths about the Heroic Age.

>>17790204
>Sethian cultists didn't exist in the medieval era retard and the whole "globalist network of semitic snake cultists establishing themselves as a priest class over steppe aryan people, slave raiding european villages" is a very bronze age thing. You're a literal retard if you watch Conan the Barbarian and think it comes off "medieval" instead of some very early iron age/late bronze age setting.

Aquilonia is medieval France.

>>17788890 (OP)
nordicists tremble against churka excellence

The only narrative sources about it are some letters of Hittite king to them, other than that we know nothing but here was palace and we may have inventory list from it.

>>17793586
>The only narrative sources about it are some letters of Hittite king to them

It's funny how suggestive those letters are of the Trojan War.

>>17793622
Not exactly. The Hittite king complains about mercenaries helping the Troyans. This is actually part of the troyan cycle, I believe Heracles was at some point doing that for instance, the war in illiad however, although imo likely, isn't attested by any contemporary source.