Thread 17793014

Why do people hate this wonderful religion? Anti semitism makes no sense

>>17793014 (OP)
Talmud jew religious beliefs are the definition of abhorrent poison.

It's actually unreal, I think I am very slowly developing a passion for Judaism just because of how absurdly surreal it is. Every time I see shit pulled from the Talmud it's either something sickeningly sadistic or completely hilarious. This is from Twitter but it's on topic so I share it.
https://x.com/Slatzism/status/1937286042937077789

>>17793029
When you dig into history all historical accounts will have a lot if this, direct quotes from bad people, is not like all the book will be unicorns and rainbows this were their lives and it rain frogs and fishes and they said natural event our science explains it must not free the jews

The rabbi in OP unironically gives good advice
Is it better to do bad things in your hometown, to your friends and neighbors, or do them to people from far away who you'll never see again?
(It's still best to not do bad things in the first place, but I think the rabbi was talking about mitigating things if you have to do evil for whatever reason)

>>17793054
Or just don't do evil things? If you have such a degree of control that you can determine when and how to do evil, we are dealing with extreme levels of premeditation. To advise someone to defer or redirect evil is not to control it, it is to condone it, since it means that the intellect is complicit in the evil rather than there being a lapse of intelligence. Not to mention the moral implications of offloading social costs to strangers.

>>17793029
I think it's the sheer audacity of it that really captures a person's attention. It's like a psychopath handing out pamphlets to people in public of all the sick shit he loves to do and him believing that the complete honesty of it will have people give it a pass because of the chutzpah. (Which might not be far from the truth)

>>17793014 (OP)
Lol, there's a whole website dedicated to explaining these.
http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/short.html
>Note the part of the passage that is not quoted in the accusation. The accusers do not mention that this person (not necessarily a Jew) must dress in black and cover his head. Why should this be if the Talmud is offering advice on how to commit a crime? Quite the opposite, this person should try to blend in with everyone else. Rather the Talmud is offering very sound psychological advice. This person is not directly told "You can't do it." That advice to a person steeped in desire is meaningless because the person has lost control of his actions. Rather, the person is bidden to first delay his intended actions by going to a city where he is not known. This lengthy trip will serve as a cooling off period. He is then told to dress humbly which should further serve as a reminder of what he should be doing compared to what he plans on doing. Rather than offering carte blanche permission to sin, the Talmud is suggesting a form of indirect rebuke to prevent the person from sinning [see Rashi in the name of Rav Hai Gaon and Chiddushei HaRan; Tosafot, Kiddushin 40a]. The desecration of G-d's name is a subterfuge to convince this sick individual to follow the path to health.

Who is Moed Kattan?

>>17793879
Talmud is a collection of texts, Moed Katan is one of them I suppose.

>>17793014 (OP)
>4000 years old desert religion is...LE BARBARIC
Wow, so surprising.

>>17793014 (OP)
>Why do people hate this wonderful religion?
Real talk (non-anti-semitic or conspiritard)
>Jews act fuck weird.
It's part of why their identity stays so strong over millennia, but it bothers natives when they move into a country and don't adopt to it.
>Jewish religion is basically "do what we say because we say so"
Jews like to make the analogy that it's "like following traffic signals, it's good for it's own sake", but it comes off seeming like they're materialists
>Jewish religion straight up says they're better then everyone
no one likes the kid in class who thinks he's smarter then everyone
>the Talmud's BS
I get that its actually a bunch of opinions being argued, but it comes off sounding like a chud manifesto.
>Jews emphasis on liberal education at all costs
This stacks them into bureaucratic institutions (like academic, media, government, etc) giving them undue power for their size
>Their anamosity against individualism
Jewish culture is endogamous (tribal) and they don't really like individualism and go out of their way to push collectivism.

>>17793944
Yes, I'm russian, you got me.

>>17793029
It's really surreal. One of my "favourites" is a chapter where the rabbis debate whether hymens of two year old girls regrow or are indestructible.
https://www.sefaria.org/Niddah.45a.3?ven=english|William_Davidson_Edition_-_English&lang=bi

>>17793981
Have you reached Theosis oбoжeниe yet?

>>17793014 (OP)
Well Christians have a very long relationship of mutual hatred with Jews. Christians think they killed Jesus (all the other reasons come after). Jews think that Jesus was a liar who is in hell.
Muslims are basically the same, but also muhammad is in there.
Oddly enough Jews mostly got persecuted in Western Eurasia, you never hear about pogroms in China.

>>17793014 (OP)
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>>17794030
Sorry, nazi chuds, you're not allowed to use /his/ to discuss the religion of Judaism, it's considered off-topic.

>>17794071
>pic
That thread wasn't made for genuine discussion

>>17793167
It'd be funny if the reason Jews dominate so many industries is because their religion is *so* stupid and obscene that, generation after generation for the last 2000 years, every Jew not smart enough to do the mental gymnastics to explain away its obvious psychopathy would be killed before they got as far as breeding.

It's a maladaptive evolutionary cycle, like a peacock's feathers: they may be pretty to us, but a peacock's feathers are an idiotic hindrance that's a burden on every bird unfortunate to carry them. However, they have the effect of ensuring that any male peacock that isn't at peak physical fitness gets eaten before it gets a chance to pass its genes down to the next generation, thereby improving the genetic fitness of the species as a whole.

>>17793014 (OP)
>boohoo this jew book speaks of me the same way I speak of non whites
I don't care. Jews are the only monotheists left in the world. That gives them an immediate pass above mudslime pederasts and crypto polytheist Christians.

>>17794071
>you're not allowed to use /his/ to discuss the religion of Judaism
I wish you freaks WOULD actually discuss religion. But no, everything is reduced to race because it's easy for you losers to digest instead of theology.

>Even in a place where they prohibited leaving an animal in seclusion with a gentile, it is permitted to sell it to a gentile. What is the reason? Once the animal is sold to the gentile, there is no concern that he will engage in bestiality. This is because a gentile spares his own animal from bestiality, as he does not want it to become sterile through this practice. By contrast, it is prohibited to leave one’s animal in seclusion with a gentile, as he would have no such compunction with regard to an animal belonging to others.
>And one may not entrust an animal to a gentile shepherd, and one may not seclude oneself with gentiles, due to the danger that this entails. And one may not entrust a child to them to teach him how to read books or to teach him a craft. But one may keep an animal in the inns of Samaritans, as they are not suspected of violating a Torah prohibition and engaging in bestiality.

>>17793062
>just don't ask hard questions

>>17794030
>Jews think that Jesus was a liar who is in hell.
Jews don't believe in Hell, the inferno as we picture it is a Graeco-Roman influence derided from Tartarus and such

>The Gemara asks: What is the reason that he was accepted there? The Gemara answers: Even though he sinned, he still acted in accordance with the opinion of Rabbi Ilai, as it is taught in a baraita: Rabbi Ilai says: If a person sees that his evil inclination is gaining control over him and he cannot overcome it, then he should go to a place where he is not known. He should wear black, and he should wrap his head in black, as if he were a mourner. Perhaps these changes will influence him, so that he not sin. Even if these actions do not help, he should at least do as his heart desires in private and not desecrate the name of Heaven in public. Although this person had sinned, he did so in private and in a manner that did not publicly desecrate God’s name, and therefore it was fitting that he be given an honorable burial.
Kind of weird but reasonable
Why would God give a man an evil inclination that not even the Gemara sagas could help?

If you actually study Judaism all their beliefs are superior to Christians. Especially Catholics.
It's as if the Catholics just took Jewish ideas and deliberately made them worse.
For example on sin, you are just flat out and irredeemable sinner in catholicism.
In Judaism you arent burdened with original sin and are able to redeem yourself

>>17794952
Christ is the only way to redeem yourself

>>17794481
the perils of living near Ancient Gr*eks

>>17793054
>or do them to people from far away who you'll never see again?
All fun and smiles until the other town tracks the offender down and a bloodbath ensues. For a people obsessed with holding grudges and taking revenge, they are, ironically, very willing to hurt others

>>17793992
If they hadn't completely co-opted the minds of the people, Christianity would be the last thing on their minds when they seethe and try to tear down religion. It's so fucking insane that you have to go "Guys, how the fuck is this not an issue? LOOK HOW DERANGED THIS SHIT IS"