Thread 17796074

Why does the Bible sound so Communist?

There's nothing inherently communist about loving foreigners.

>>17796078
>treat them just as you treat your own citizens

>>17796074 (OP)
it's jewish

>>17796084
Are you a /pol/tard who thinks communism = being pro-immigration?

>>17796099
Jesus also says that it's impossible for a rich man to enter heaven and to get rid of all of your worldly possessions

>>17796074 (OP)
Just how shallow does your knowledge of both the Bible and Communism need to be for this question to come up?

Because It's the right thing to do.

>>17796109
Based and Jonespilled

>>17796100
he also said just two verses after that that nothing is impossible with God. It's exactly because the young man is sad at hearing jesus tell him to sell his stuff that he ought to do it : he got attached to the wordly possessions he owns and they come into conflict with the Word of God :
>18Then a certain ruler asked Him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
>19“Why do you call Me good?” Jesus replied. “No one is good except God alone. 20You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not bear false witness, honor your father and mother.”
>21“All these I have kept from my youth,” he said.
>22On hearing this, Jesus told him, “You still lack one thing: Sell everything you own and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me.”
>23But when the ruler heard this, he became very sad, because he was extremely wealthy.
>24Seeing the man’s sadness, Jesus said, “How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!
>25Indeed, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.”
>26Those who heard this asked, “Who then can be saved?”
>27But Jesus said, “What is impossible with man is possible with God.”
>28“Look,” said Peter, “we have left all we hadd to follow You.”
>29“Truly I tell you,” Jesus replied, “no one who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God
>30will fail to receive many times more in this age—and in the age to come, eternal life.”

>>17796153
God bless you.
It's good to see one with understanding teaching truth.

In case someone gets excited about verse 19:
“I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
— John 10:11

>>17796153
>no one who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God
>>30will fail to receive many times more in this age—and in the age to come, eternal life.”
Geez, that's grim. I can only infer that by saying people who leave their families receive "many times more in this age" he means many more family members in the sense that the church becomes their family. So, "leave your actual family and replace them with my club based on worshiping me." Jesus was just a cult leader like we see many of today.

>>17796074 (OP)
>Be good
>COMMUNISM!
Why you do this thing?

Leftards will never understand the difference between voluntary charity and state violence. It’s baffling.

>>17796178
Roundabout way of saying Communism is good and Christlike

>>17796171
>Geez, that's grim. I can only infer that by saying people who leave their families receive "many times more in this age" he means many more family members in the sense that the church becomes their family.
It's not the only time He says that families will be broken apart by Him, but He claims that, unlike what you simplify, it isn't that the faithful will want to leave their families, but that their faiths will lead their families to reject them :
>32Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father in heaven.
>33But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven.
>34Do not assume that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
>35For I have come to turn
>‘a man against his father,
>a daughter against her mother,
>a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.
>36A man’s enemies will be the members
>of his own household.’
>37Anyone who loves his father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me;
>38and anyone who does not take up his cross and follow Me is not worthy of Me.
>39Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
Following Jesus here does not mean to literally follow the Man Jesus. Following Jesus means to not deny Him, the Living God, or your love for Him, before others, even if your love of Him drives a wedge between you and family. Because if your family loved you, truly loved you unconditionally as god does, then loving Jesus Christ, the Son of God, would mean nothing.
>12This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.

>>17796196
Or that you’re dumb and don’t know what communism is

>>17796205
Jesus didn't enforce communism but what he preached was communism/socialism.

>>17796202
The very last chapter of the world Old Testament says:

>Remember the law of my servant Moses, the decrees and laws I gave him at Horeb for all Israel.

>“See, I will send the prophet Elijah to you before that great and dreadful day of the Lord comes. He will turn the hearts of the parents to their children, and the hearts of the children to their parents; or else I will come and strike the earth with total destruction.

>>17796214
>or else I will come and strike the earth with total destruction
ngl, I prefer not being completely totally destroyed because me and everyone else is unrepentant, so thank you again, Lord Jesus.

>>17796237
So remember the law of Moses and turn to your parents and children or else says God.

>>17796074 (OP)
Communism is a forced-at-gunpoint political system. What Jesus would want is free gifts between friends and neighbors often.

The fact that you read "give freely" and see communism says more about you.

>>17796249
>What Jesus would want is free gifts between friends and neighbors often.
And what happens if you don't?

>>17796255
Well, depends. Did you have the means to help in the first place?
If not, you will be judged accordingly. God is Justice and Mercy.

>>17796261
>Well, depends. Did you have the means to help in the first place?

Do you give as freely as you could? Be honest.

If you've ever saved money for a new unnecessary toy or for a vacation instead of giving to charity, what do you think Jesus would say?

>>17796245
Notice the mention of hearts, though. essentially Malachi 4 tells us that families will be made bare before each others; especially considering Malachi as a whole deals with unfaithfulness in Israel.
In revealing your faith in Jesus Christ, sons and daughter, mothers and fathers, and all kinds of family connections bare their hearts. The question is, will Judah, the unfaithful one warned by Malachi, who weeps over the state of its faith and yet lashes out at the righteous, turn their heart to that family or not?

>>17796263
>Do you give as freely as you could? Be honest.
It's honestly never enough and it saddens me, but I still try my hardest.
I'm trying to save up for a home to raise a family in.

>>17796287
>I'm trying to save up for a home to raise a family in.
That's not what Jesus commands you to do

>>17796296
Jesus told us to hold to God's commandments, and the oldest and most venerable of His mandate is "be fruitful and multiply."

>>17796178
>>17796213
commie faggot

>>17796322
Jesus commanded you to help the needy. Are you doing that? he also told you to not worry about tomorrow, yet you are saving money for a house, a selfish desire

>>17796179
>>17796249
>>17796333
>communism le bad because some rich nigger who hates me said so

>>17796347
truke

>>17796336
yes, a house. To shelter my children and wife.
Anon, what is "needy" and "poor" to you? I'd qualify as homeless by ancient standards, so what exactly are you trying to pull here?

>>17796381
>Anon, what is "needy" and "poor" to you?
Starving people, people who are on the street. I'm guessing you walk right past most homeless people, as most of us do.

>>17796393
>I'm guessing you walk right past most homeless people, as most of us do
No? Again, what are you trying to pull here? A "no true christian" or such?

>>17796398
Why aren't you doing this?

You have no fucking what a Communist is.

>>17796693
>communism is when you hate christianity or something

>>17796074 (OP)
Because you have zero capacity for critical thought. Consider a lobotomy.

>>17796347
China is fascist tho

>>17796074 (OP)
>using a new world order translation

>>17796811
>libtards on college campuses are commies because they wear Che Guevara shirts
>the anti-western state born from the vicious cultural revolution and uses Marxist imagery isn't communist
This is your brain on American Copium™.

>>17797224
>>17796811
China is fascist because they leverage industry to maintain a largely authoritarian single-party command economy towards a pro-Chinese ideological ideal. They are also communist because communism plays a role in their ideological vision and command economy.

>>17796102
*pro-Immigration
commies hated Emigration

>>17797217
Jesus preached communist new world order where all are one under him

>>17796153
Can you explain more? How are you interpreting these passages any other way than Jesus telling the ruler that he must give away his wealth to the poor to inherit eternal life? Is "What is impossible with man is possible with God.” not Jesus saying that for a man without god to intentionally choose to become poor is insurmountable, but for a man with the moral guidance and relationship with God, he can transcend greed and vanity to devote himself to charity?

Matthew 6:3

>>17796074 (OP)
You have never lived in a rural area before and it shows, otherwise this verse wouldn’t be contentious but would be second nature to your own behavior. Rednecks are some of the most welcoming and hospitable people on the entire planet. Suspicion of your neighbors is a sign of a low trust society. God desires humans to be at peace with each other. Sadly the ideal of what should be does not reflect what is. This is also the same book that condemns theft and murder with the harshest punishment and stresses for God’s people not to marry foreigners, so you have to either lack literacy or engage in extreme mental gymnastics from bad faith in order to claim that the Bible promotes anti-human WEF agendas such as communism and the extinction of whites.

>>17796100
It seems like a vast majority of Jews are barred from heaven then.

>>17798691
>racemixing le bad!
>I worship my white skin!
That's cool and all, but you aren't a Christian.

>>17798700
I am in fact a Christian.

>>17798703
There are more Whites alive today than at any other point in history. You spew the same garbage I see on twitter circles and /pol/. Whatever "Christian" you are, it obviously isn't what 4 billion Christians believe globally.

>>17798707
Have you ever interacted with Christians before? It doesn’t seem like you do. This may come as news to you but hearing perspectives you don’t agree with isn’t indicative as to whether or not someone is something in truth. I pray that God will give you a heart of grace.

>>17798714
>Have you ever interacted with Christians before?
Ive been going to chudch since I was 9. You've been going to some discord where you seethe about da jooz and da shitskins all day.

>>17798716
I will continue to pray for you

>>17796074 (OP)
Probably because you're citing a cherry picked modern and progressive bible passage in bad faith. Faggot.