How would the Nazis have dealt with issues that don't stem from the World Wars and are largely out of the control of the state? Were their economic policies sustainable enough to combat things we see today like declining birthrates all across the world? Would they even consider that an issue or would they just try to reform around it? Would they become libtarded over time or would they tighten up into a worse authoritarian state than the 50s USSR?

Don't me give some retarded cartoonish utopian meme like picrel either. It's easy to claim a country or individual would've done [thing] when your view is based entirely on speculation.

>>17798845 (OP)
China is natsoc

>>17798858
No, it's not.

>>17798845 (OP)
Chinese propaganda literally won. An entire generation of kids want to visit there in the comments of social media videos

>>17798858
No, it's an example of Real Communism

>>17798858
>anyone who achieved anything at all is natsoc
I swear you fags will be saying this about the first nigger country that figures out indoor plumbing in 100 years.

>>17798859
They prioritize the wellbeing of their citizens instead of appeasing the international banking cabal, so by default they are.

>>17798845 (OP)
China is Natsoc

>>17798869
Just because a country is ethnically homogenous and claims to be socialist doesn't make it natsoc.

>>17798863
Read about the way American leftists and college students worshipped China during the Cultural Revolution. Nothing has changed, current China buzz is nothing new. If anything it’s far less unhinged than it was back in the day.

>>17798845 (OP)
>unironically falling for tik tok Chinese propaganda
How fucking stupid can you be? Really

>>17798869
>They prioritize the wellbeing of their citizens

>>17798869
>selling your labor to Western bankers for pennies
Is this the absolute state of National Socialist apologetics in the year 2020+5?
>>17798899
People on this board regularly fall for state propaganda from another socialist regime that fell over 80 years ago.

>>17798912
>People on this board regularly fall for state propaganda
They're mostly likely kids born after 2000 from reddit.

what is "sexualized" in the top image? what does "sexualized" even mean?
i find it funny how americans always tell on themselves no matter the context

>>17798899
The world is changing, chud

>>17798859
>hyper ethno-nationalism with socialistic state authoritarianism and economic planning/interventionalism
yeah, they are
>>17798912
>implying they're not laying the global institutions and economic foundation =\to become next global hegemon after ZOGmerica's gazillion dollar national debt inevitably implodes into a black hole of destitution
cope

>>17798859
>hyper ethno-nationalism with socialistic state authoritarianism and economic planning/interventionalism
yeah, they are
>>17798912
>implying they're not laying the global institutions and economic foundation to become next global hegemon after ZOGmerica's gazillion dollar national debt inevitably implodes into a black hole of destitution
cope

>>17798946
And I'm supposed to believe this, why?

>>17798967
You don't have to. The people already do. Now go back to your Peter Zeihan videos.

>>17798972
>The people already do
>Now go back to your Peter Zeihan videos.

>>17798869
>They prioritize the wellbeing of their citizens
I've got a hard drive full of LiveLeak videos that show the exact opposite.

>>17798899
>>17798946
>>17798967
>>17798981
lol, lmfao even

>>17799144
This doesn't have anything to do with liveleak. Are you ESL? Do you need a better translator?

>>17799165
>>17799144
Also, if china is so great, are they done being a 3rd world developing nation yet?
They keep insisting they are, and that they NEED the classification to survive.

>>17799165
What does liveleak have to do with China lifting hundreds of millions out of poverty and becoming the near core of the global economy? retarded mutt

>>17799165
You cant even read that map-chart, moron

>>17798946
>>17799144
Why is the average person in China so unproductive? If China has 1.4 billion people, why are they still struggling to even match the US' economic power? Why does the Chinese economy perform so relatively poorly given their population? Why does China still have an HDI comparable to Mexico?

uh oh jews are seething about china again!

>>17799182
Because the petrodollar is still a thing.
For now.

Tick-tock hog.

>>17799177
>>17799179
Note that neither of these actually responds to the chinese blatantly not caring about safety standards.
This is because the chinese can't actually read, they are just AIs. Which means, indians.

>>17799169
Of course china needs to remain a developing nation, they'd never survive following the same rules as a civilized nation.

notice no one makes a coherent argument as to why china is not natsoc, they just screech
>um no!

>>17799205
It'd help if you used terms correctly.

>>17799205
NatSoc isn't even a coherent ideology. They say they want to stop usury and then nationalize the German banks so they can charge even more interest. They say they want to contain communism but the first thing they do is ally with the bolsheviks and pick a fight with capitalist countries with positive views of Germany and Italy. They claim to be liberating people in the east and then immediately "germanize" them. They say they want to stop the international jew cabal and then accept silver from one of their kin in exchange for his freedom.

You know what? The nigger gangsters down the street are national socialists. Make a coherent argument against that.

>>17798845 (OP)
>declining birthrates all across the world
That was considered an issue in the 1930s in multiple countries.
> Racial hygienists had pointed with alarm to the decline in Germany’s birth-rate, from thirty-six live births per 1,000 population in 1900 to a mere fifteen per 1,000 population in 1932.
>he Nazis could not have agreed more. As soon as they came to power, they moved into action to eliminate what they thought of as the causes of the declining birth-rate and to provide incentives to women to have more children.
>Their first target was Germany’s large and active feminist movement, which was swiftly closed down and its constituent associations dissolved or incorporated into the Party’s national women’s organization, National Socialist Womanhood (NS-Frauenschaft)
>On Mother’s Day in May 1939, three million women who had given birth to four or more children each were invested with the title of ‘Mother of the Reich’ in special ceremonies held all over Germany.
>State investment in new housing actually fell from one and a third billion marks in 1928 to a quarter of a billion in 1938
Did their stuff work?
>Nearly half of all couples married in 1900-1904 had four or more children, but for those married in 1926-30 the proportion was only 20 per cent; in 1931-5 it fell further to 18 per cent, and in 1936-40 again to 13 per cent
>From a low of 14.7 live births per thousand inhabitants in 1933 the birth-rate increased to 18.0 in 1934 and 18.9 in 1935. It then levelled off at 19.0 in 1936 and 18.8 in 1937 before rising slightly again to 19.6 in 1938 and 20.4 in 1939

If China is Natsoc was the USSR also Natsoc since both countries had very similar political structures?

>>17799165
The reason that they have industrial accidents and the US doesn't is because China actually has industry.

>>17799557
You and I both know that the per capita rates in the same industries are worse, mr. india.

>>17799182
Their economy is based on products and services that have actual value and the world cannot survive without, the only thing i can think of that mutts make are overpriced military equipment. This is why your retarded politicians are still scratching their heads in confusion about why Russia is outperforming the entire West in production despite having such a small GDP

>>17799969
The United States remains the second largest industrial power. By your logic, no country makes anything except for China which obviously isn't true. China just makes cheap shit but they make a lot of cheap shit because that's what they're best at.
>scratching their heads in confusion about why Russia is outperforming the entire West in production
Nobody is saying this because it isn't even true, and you just outed yourself, dumb Vatnigger

>>17799548
No because Russia is run by Jews, plus they advocate for the world to become gayer and multiracial
China is much more ethnocentric than Russia

>>17799969
>Their economy is based on products and services that have actual value and the world cannot survive without,
I'm pretty sure the world is going to be fine without 25 cent USB cables anon. The real reason China lags behind the US is because China largely manufactures things on Americas own terms, for everything China makes, American companies will always make larger returns on, because otherwise there would be no reason to outsource to China, which is the primary driver of Chinas economy in the first place. It's always going to be like that because no other country is capable of filling Americas role as Chinas manufacturing partner. The EU can but the EU also isn't a country

>>17799981
>>17799996
The backbone of American economy are fast food companies and porn, its a fake economy based on useless services like the rest of the west. China is worlds top exporter of rare earths, steel, electronics, EVs, solar energy etc and probably a lot more im forgetting
le GDP is just fake numbers on a screen when you can’t sustain yourself

>>17800012
>le GDP is just fake numbers on a screen when you can’t sustain yourself
GDP is the total market value of all final goods and services produced within a given country within a year, the US has such a high GDP because it remains the second largest manufacturing economy whose main exports are Petrolium products, aircraft, automobiles, integrated circuits, and medical instruments among others, the US also provides a highly desirable service economy on the global market with regards to entertainment and finance. Ideally you want both, because manufacturing is good for self-sufficiently but because the value of manufactured items needs to be low in order to compete on a global market, its generally bad for living standards, which is why you also want a robust service economy of higher paying careers which the US also has, which is why the US is within the top 20 most developed countries on Earth with an HDI equal to New Zealand while China has an HDI equal to Mexico

>>17798859
Yes it is.
A Trotskyist told me so.

>>17800026
What you said doesn’t disprove what i said about the US not being able to sustain itself, and this applies to any vassal state of the US even more. When the US implodes you’ll see that the rest of the west will as well

>>17800044
When push comes to shove I think the US, EU, and Russia all have enough natural resources to sustain themselves just fine albeit at the cost of living standards (which shouldn't be an issue for Russians anyways) but for all the smaller turd world countries that rely on US/Chinese aid and imports, they're pretty much done for

>>17798859
It is, their economic model is based on productive solvency. That was the core of National Socialist economics.
The economic miracle was entirely predicated upon staying ahead of debt by overproducing. It worked in America in the 1800s in Germany in 1930 and today in China.
Based Michael Hudson is a superstar in China.
>but these are chud economics
So what?

>>17800057
>When push comes to shove
Has already happened, western hegemony is crumbling and the US can’t do anything about it

>>17800072
2 more weeks bud

>>17800078
How did it work out in Ukraine? And in Iran? Are you winning?

>>17800100
>And in Iran? Are you winning?
Lets see
>single plane from Mississippi flies across the planet uninterrupted, delivers bunker bombs to some random location in brownland, and now peace talks are happening
yeah I'd call that a win

>>17800110
Yeah were supposed to believe that you destroyed their nuclear and ballistic program and rendered them completely defenseless then just left it at that despite both the US and Zionist leadership saying the goal was regime change and then asked to give them $30 billion to rebuild the same program you had supposedly destroyed

>>17798859
It certainly isn't communist

>>17798845 (OP)
Capitalist propaganda: both + our current reality

>>17798869
The tiananmen square protests were literally started because the government wouldn't stop lodging african rapists with chinese college students, they have zero labor laws and no unions, they treat their population like disposable pawns. You have fallen for propaganda they disseminate for right wingers specifically, they present a very different view of their country when they target the western left.

>>17800012
And computer software and the banking system. Don't forget that to do business with anyone else online you need to go through visa and Mastercard.

>>17800159
>The tiananmen square protests
Oh no, a heckin protest? That completely changed my opinion on Chyna. I love globohomo now
>>17800161
>Don't forget that to do business with anyone else online you need to go through visa and Mastercard.
The rest of the world has their own version of that

>>17799230
How does this translate into fertility rate?

>>17798859
It basically is. You have a dictator that strong arms his industry to do what he thinks is best for the people. In a less personal and compassionate manner than the Germans, but hey, they’re Chinese

>>17798858
FPBP

>>17798912
>>selling your labor to Western bankers for pennies
USSR sold Soviet proletariat labor for pennies to West at the same time denying Soviet proletariat access to foreign markets of consumer goods.
So yeah China does care about their citizens within their ability.
Also fun fact: in 2024 china produced more passenger cars then USSR during all it history. Surprising huh?

>>17799199
>Note that neither of these actually responds to the chinese blatantly not caring about safety standards.
You should check Soviet safety standards (ops they didn't have liveleak) and Soviet male life expectancy.

China is real Communism

>>17798845 (OP)
>Were their economic policies sustainable enough to combat things we see today like declining birthrates all across the world?
Their economic policies are just Keynesian. That was the fashion at the time, just like Pareto and elite theories were a fashion and guess what Mussolini's favourite sociologist was. So do you think Keynesian economics is the solution for the current day problems? You tell us.

While nazism and fascism have some distinct elements to them they drew from contemporary science, philosophy, historical, sociological and economic thought at the time in their most modern form. Leftists endlessly belittled them because they themselves championed the old sociology, the old economic thought, the old sciences. What resulted from the war were a series of the first world largely led with the same principles fascists used, just packaged in a less outwardly offensive way and a traditionalist, backwards second world bound by adherence to some kinds of wisdom of some ancient dead people. World starts making more sense the moment you realise these things.

>>17800248
>USSR sold Soviet proletariat labor for pennies to West
For real???

>>17800350
And they were proud of it.
USSR had stores were foreign goods were sold, but workers whose labor was sold by Soviet commies to the West COULD EVEN ENTER these stores. Imagine reinventing caste system in the 20th century.

>>17800350
And they were proud of it.
USSR had stores were foreign goods were sold, but workers whose labor was sold by Soviet commies to the West COULDN'T EVEN ENTER these stores. Imagine reinventing caste system in the 20th century.

>>17798869
The suicide nets on some workplaces surely does count as prioritizing the wellbeing of their citizens

>>17799969
America produces more oil than russia does and manufactures more than russia does.

>>17798877
If someone started a party in Germany that literally just said everything the CCP does it would be banned, criminalised, and probably flagged as a terrorist organisation within a matter of days. The only reason China is not widely considered a neo-Nazi country, is because they are not white.

Chinese worship is almost as gay as Hinduphilia.

>>17800964
>physically weak
>short

>>17801063
>a genetic freak is represents the entirety of the chinese

>>17801063
>a genetic freak represents the entirety of the chinese

>>17798859
Sounded retarded when I first read the post but anon is kind of right, both of them are practically ethnostates where allegiance to the state and the people of China is prioritized over literally everything else (religion, class etc...), both of them are kind of capitalistic especially at smaller scales while still having government involvement in larger corporations to the point where they can make CEOs disappear.

The only real difference is that China isn't that militaristic compared to Nazi Germany although with an invasion of Taiwan around the corner that'll probably change.

>>17801138
>The only real difference is that China isn't that militaristic compared to Nazi Germany
They are. The difference is nobody will ever take the Chinese military seriously.