One problem I always had with Christianity is the parable of the good and bad son. You can destroy the lives of others and kill them in a state of non grace them be forgiven, no matter what evils you do. All of those death have no chance for repentance now, the future of redemption was taken from them.

I hate how I'm the same as a rapist or the worst piece of shit possible because all sin is equal. And I don't see how an innocent man dying works as payment. It's like if I get absurd and another dude kills himself. How does that heal all of my suffering?

It is not fair that person can destroy the lives of others, get forgiven, while the victims get punished for lesser crimes because they didn't have time to repent.

I hate when Paul starts giving lessons to others. Motherfucker, you killed innocent people, many people didn't, yet you are proudly preaching to them. You didn't steal candy or insulted your grandma, you literally murdered innocents.

How is this fair?

>>17800324 (OP)
>because all sin is equal
It's not 1 John 5:16-17

>>17800324 (OP)
>Applying logic to a personality cult of a queer jew.

>>17800324 (OP)
It's fair because god ordains it
Just like it's fair when god orders genocides in the OT
Chriscuckery is not based on what you think is fair
It's based on what god orders
if God ordered you to bash a baby against a rock then it's fair and it would be immoral not to do it
And how do we know that god ordered these things? Because a jew told you

>>17800328
So there is sin not leading to death? Doesn't that contradict what sin is? And what are mortal sins and non mortal sins? I never see a list, or of I see one, literally everything is a mortal sin.

And isn't the point of Christ that he saves us for sin? So it doesn't matter if you are a rapist or a murderer, if you repent you are saved, but a victim killed before time in a state of non grace, gets condemned, because all humans have sinned

>>17800324 (OP)
>all sin is equal.
Read the law of God. There are different punishments for different sins which shows not all sins are equal.

Some sins can be atoned by a sacrifice and others God demands the sinner be stoned or burned to death to attone. Like murder, no sacrifice can cleanse the land of the pollution of murder except for the execution of the murderer.

God can forgive anything though if he wants to. God forgave David for killing an innocent man but he still killed his son as punishment. Thought the son was a product of sin.

>>17800348
>TLDR it's whatever the rebbe says

>>17800341
The Catechism does a wonderful job of answering these questions.

>For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: "Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."

The nuances, culpability, etc on these three requirements are looked at further in the following pages. I'm taking this from a physical copy I own, but a quick Google search on the Catechism of the Catholic Church will get you there. You can even be lazy and type in the general topic you're looking for in Google and you can skip thumbing through the index.

>>17800374
>whose object is grave matter

>>17800374
That's still an abstract definition. And with full knowledge and deliberate consent isn't something that applies to humans. We are basically retarded.

And again all sin is mortal, that's the whole deal about sin. And separating into mortal sin means that is a sin that if you don't repent before dying is game over. Which raises my problem in the OP again. How is it fair to murder people in non grace and with unfinished business, then become one of the most prominent figures in Christianity? And I'm not talking about Paul alone.

How is it fair to have repentance and then critizise others WHEN YOU ARE A FUCKING MURDERER.

The parable of the Prodigal Son (Luke 15:11-32) isn’t saying all sins are equal in gravity. Mortal sins (like murder) are distinct from venial sins (like stealing candy). The Church teaches that mortal sin requires grave matter, full knowledge, and deliberate consent (CCC 1857). The parable’s point is God’s mercy: no sin is beyond forgiveness if repentance is genuine. The Prodigal Son didn’t just waltz back; he humbled himself, acknowledging his fault. Same with St. Paul: his conversion (Acts 9) was a radical break from his past, not a free pass.

>I hate how I'm the same as a rapist or the worst piece of shit possible because all sin is equal.
Not quite. The Church doesn’t teach all sins are equal. Grave sins differ in degree (CCC 1858). What’s equal is that any sin separates us from God’s grace. A rapist’s sin is objectively worse than a lie, but both need repentance to restore that relationship. God’s justice doesn’t flatten morality into a one-size-fits-all blob.

>I don't see how an innocent man dying works as payment.
Christ’s sacrifice isn’t a cosmic IOU. It’s not about “another dude” dying to offset your suffering. Christ, being God and man, offered a perfect act of obedience to atone for humanity’s disobedience (Romans 5:19). His death bridges the infinite gap sin creates. Your suffering isn’t erased by a transaction; it’s redeemed through participation in His sacrifice (Colossians 1:24).

cont.

>>17800482
>It is not fair that person can destroy the lives of others, get forgiven, while the victims get punished for lesser crimes because they didn't have time to repent.
The Church doesn’t teach that victims are automatically damned. God’s mercy extends beyond our understanding. He judges based on what someone could have done, given their circumstances (CCC 847). A victim cut off from repentance isn’t necessarily screwed; God’s not a bureaucrat ticking boxes. As for the perpetrator, forgiveness requires true contrition, not a get-out-of-jail-free card. Justice still applies, and temporal consequences (purgatory, earthly punishment) don’t vanish because of absolution.

>I hate when Paul starts giving lessons to others. Motherfucker, you killed innocent people.
Paul’s past is brutal, no question. But his transformation shows God’s mercy isn’t cheap; it demands a complete reorientation. Paul didn’t preach from pride; he preached from humility, calling himself the “least of the apostles” (1 Corinthians 15:9). His life proves no one’s too far gone, but it doesn’t erase the harm he caused. That’s why he endured suffering as penance.

Fairness isn’t about everyone getting the same outcome, it’s about God’s justice tempered by mercy. The Church teaches that Hell exists, but so does Purgatory, and God’s judgment accounts for every detail we can’t see. If you’re wrestling with this, keep digging. Read Aquinas or the Catechism on justice and mercy.

Your objections are right and honourable, and remind me of my own problems with the religion. In the first place, I couldn't stomach the idea of a God that applies the carrot and the stick method in such a brazen and universal fashion. Even the most vile and disgusting creature on the planet would convert in order to receive the highest reward of eternal bliss, especially if the alternative is eternal torture.
Your point here:
>All of those death have no chance for repentance now
Is excellent and very incisive in pointing out the absurd contradictions in these kinds of faith based redemption religions.
Good is good, evil is evil. Professing faith into this god or that cannot and should not make black white, and white black.

>But Paul HECKING DIDN'T KNOW BETTER! He was a good boy he didn't do nuffin!
Incidentally murder victims also don't know there's only one true God that will catapult them into hell if they die without having repented, and they don't know when they are going to be murdered either. Xtianbros... the game is rigged...? Some sins are more equal than others...??