Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:15:34 PM No.17803302
>Destroys Greco-Roman civilisation
>Is called "the Great"
Explain.
>Is called "the Great"
Explain.
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Thread 17803302 - /his/ [Archived: 660 hours ago]
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:20:40 PM No.17803310
>>17803302 (OP)
>destroys pagan graeco roman civilization
>promotes christcuck degenerate civilization
>gets called the great by christcucks
Makes perfect sense
Also
>marries a whore
>purges his empire of his greatest minds because they were pagan
>the byzantranny empire degenerates even more after his death
>dies a heretic
>is too this day getting tortured in hell
Such is christcuck greatness. At least maybe the abrahamic god is allowing him to be tortured together with his whore wife.
>destroys pagan graeco roman civilization
>promotes christcuck degenerate civilization
>gets called the great by christcucks
Makes perfect sense
Also
>marries a whore
>purges his empire of his greatest minds because they were pagan
>the byzantranny empire degenerates even more after his death
>dies a heretic
>is too this day getting tortured in hell
Such is christcuck greatness. At least maybe the abrahamic god is allowing him to be tortured together with his whore wife.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:27:26 PM No.17803315
>>17803310
the Gods unronically hated him. based.
the Gods unronically hated him. based.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:35:51 PM No.17803324
>>17803310
Why are all LARPagans such seething spergs?
Why are all LARPagans such seething spergs?
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:48:44 PM No.17803337
>Explain.
You first.
You first.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:50:37 PM No.17803338
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 1:54:53 PM No.17803347
based GERMoid destroyer
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:02:29 PM No.17803361
>>17803302 (OP)
Because he had the largest and most successful legal, military and building program of any Emperor since Diocletian, and in terms of military conquest the last Emperor that achieved something similar was Trajan.
>>17803310
Paganism was already dead in the water by his reign. Even Theodosius II nearly a century ago published laws against pagans while saying it wasn't really necessary because he wasn't even sure if they really existed anymore.
>purges his empire of his greatest minds because they were pagan
Most of the Athenian and other Attic philosophers just no longer practiced in associations and schools anymore. They still existed and were part of a common cultural tradition shared with Christians.
Because he had the largest and most successful legal, military and building program of any Emperor since Diocletian, and in terms of military conquest the last Emperor that achieved something similar was Trajan.
>>17803310
Paganism was already dead in the water by his reign. Even Theodosius II nearly a century ago published laws against pagans while saying it wasn't really necessary because he wasn't even sure if they really existed anymore.
>purges his empire of his greatest minds because they were pagan
Most of the Athenian and other Attic philosophers just no longer practiced in associations and schools anymore. They still existed and were part of a common cultural tradition shared with Christians.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:10:04 PM No.17803372
>>17803347
cringe hue retards
cringe hue retards
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:16:16 PM No.17803389
>>17803324
>if you don't worship jews you're a larper
>also you're seething for stating truthful historical facts
Low iq
>>17803361
>terms of military conquest the last Emperor that achieved something similar was Trajan.
There was also Aurelian who had more lasting results.
>>17803361
>Paganism was already dead in the water by his reign
No, it wasn't. Even long after his reign more laws against Pagans had to be passed.
>while saying it wasn't really necessary because he wasn't even sure if they really existed anymore
He was lying, Paganism definitely survived as witchcraft and other traditions such as astrology and of course Neoplatonic philosophy.
>Most of the Athenian and other Attic philosophers just no longer practiced in associations and schools anymore
Yeah because it was outlawed, it had to go underground.
>if you don't worship jews you're a larper
>also you're seething for stating truthful historical facts
Low iq
>>17803361
>terms of military conquest the last Emperor that achieved something similar was Trajan.
There was also Aurelian who had more lasting results.
>>17803361
>Paganism was already dead in the water by his reign
No, it wasn't. Even long after his reign more laws against Pagans had to be passed.
>while saying it wasn't really necessary because he wasn't even sure if they really existed anymore
He was lying, Paganism definitely survived as witchcraft and other traditions such as astrology and of course Neoplatonic philosophy.
>Most of the Athenian and other Attic philosophers just no longer practiced in associations and schools anymore
Yeah because it was outlawed, it had to go underground.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:30:27 PM No.17803440
>>17803389
>There was also Aurelian who had more lasting results.
Aurelian was not a conqueror and did not portray himself as such. He made no legal works of note and no significant reforms, the only reform of note he did was increasing purity in coinage which didn't really stop the issues.
>No, it wasn't. Even long after his reign more laws against Pagans had to be passed.
It effectively was. Paganism was a tiny minority
>He was lying, Paganism definitely survived as witchcraft and other traditions such as astrology and of course Neoplatonic philosophy.
None of these other than Neoplatonism (which was by nature, an elite only practice) would have even been considered Religio by even pagans. These don't actually represent a religious conviction or practice of sincere paganism. Theodosius II wasn't lying, paganism simply did not matter or have enough members to be notable in daily life or in many elite circles.
>Yeah because it was outlawed, it had to go underground.
They had to go underground, to their very public careers in administration and curial politics. Debating philosophy was never outlawed, it was in fact perfectly acceptable, even begrudgingly by more zealous bishops. Justinian disbanded the schools, not the practice, or even their ability to form a community or group. Even 140 years before in Rome when many pagan practices were outlawed, pagan senators like Symmachus still underwent pagan rituals and the actions of the priesthood along with others in his order. People knew they were doing this, and most laws hardly affected what they did such as banning sacrifices at temples, which simply just didn't even happen anymore even without the ban. Groups of pagans were overlooked in their activities for elite circles as long as it was not an open public affair.
>There was also Aurelian who had more lasting results.
Aurelian was not a conqueror and did not portray himself as such. He made no legal works of note and no significant reforms, the only reform of note he did was increasing purity in coinage which didn't really stop the issues.
>No, it wasn't. Even long after his reign more laws against Pagans had to be passed.
It effectively was. Paganism was a tiny minority
>He was lying, Paganism definitely survived as witchcraft and other traditions such as astrology and of course Neoplatonic philosophy.
None of these other than Neoplatonism (which was by nature, an elite only practice) would have even been considered Religio by even pagans. These don't actually represent a religious conviction or practice of sincere paganism. Theodosius II wasn't lying, paganism simply did not matter or have enough members to be notable in daily life or in many elite circles.
>Yeah because it was outlawed, it had to go underground.
They had to go underground, to their very public careers in administration and curial politics. Debating philosophy was never outlawed, it was in fact perfectly acceptable, even begrudgingly by more zealous bishops. Justinian disbanded the schools, not the practice, or even their ability to form a community or group. Even 140 years before in Rome when many pagan practices were outlawed, pagan senators like Symmachus still underwent pagan rituals and the actions of the priesthood along with others in his order. People knew they were doing this, and most laws hardly affected what they did such as banning sacrifices at temples, which simply just didn't even happen anymore even without the ban. Groups of pagans were overlooked in their activities for elite circles as long as it was not an open public affair.
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6/30/2025, 2:31:15 PM No.17803443
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:41:25 PM No.17803464
>>17803440
>Aurelian was not a conqueror and did not portray himself as such.
He literally reconquered lost territories, restoring Rome to its normal size. You don't know what words mean.
>It effectively was.
>Paganism was a tiny minority
A strong and influential minority, included in the educated elite.
>Theodosius II wasn't lying, paganism simply did not matter or have enough members to be notable in daily life or in many elite circles.
Nope, in his time the Platonic Academy was alive and well, he was lying.
>They had to go underground, to their very public careers in administration and curial politics. Debating philosophy was never outlawed, it was in fact perfectly acceptable, even begrudgingly by more zealous bishops. Justinian disbanded the schools, not the practice, or even their ability to form a community or group. Even 140 years before in Rome when many pagan practices were outlawed, pagan senators like Symmachus still underwent pagan rituals and the actions of the priesthood along with others in his order. People knew they were doing this, and most laws hardly affected what they did such as banning sacrifices at temples, which simply just didn't even happen anymore even without the ban. Groups of pagans were overlooked in their activities for elite circles as long as it was not an open public affair.
The Christian Emperors that passed laws against Pagans only formalized what already existed. See for example Hypatia. They were not overlooked at all, this is a lie, that's the entire point of laws.
>Aurelian was not a conqueror and did not portray himself as such.
He literally reconquered lost territories, restoring Rome to its normal size. You don't know what words mean.
>It effectively was.
>Paganism was a tiny minority
A strong and influential minority, included in the educated elite.
>Theodosius II wasn't lying, paganism simply did not matter or have enough members to be notable in daily life or in many elite circles.
Nope, in his time the Platonic Academy was alive and well, he was lying.
>They had to go underground, to their very public careers in administration and curial politics. Debating philosophy was never outlawed, it was in fact perfectly acceptable, even begrudgingly by more zealous bishops. Justinian disbanded the schools, not the practice, or even their ability to form a community or group. Even 140 years before in Rome when many pagan practices were outlawed, pagan senators like Symmachus still underwent pagan rituals and the actions of the priesthood along with others in his order. People knew they were doing this, and most laws hardly affected what they did such as banning sacrifices at temples, which simply just didn't even happen anymore even without the ban. Groups of pagans were overlooked in their activities for elite circles as long as it was not an open public affair.
The Christian Emperors that passed laws against Pagans only formalized what already existed. See for example Hypatia. They were not overlooked at all, this is a lie, that's the entire point of laws.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 2:55:57 PM No.17803488
>>17803464
>He literally reconquered lost territories, restoring Rome to its normal size. You don't know what words mean
You don't know what the Romans, and later people thought of as conquest. Aurelian was not claiming new lands. He was taking back land that everybody still regarded as Roman back under central control by winning civil war. That's completely different from conquering a foreign territory in the eyes of people at the time and for the practical way it was achieved. By the same logic Valens conquered half of the Roman Empire from Procopius.
>A strong and influential minority, included in the educated elite.
This minority was exactly that. They simply did not have the numbers to be important and especially for Theodosius II the only known pagan in out of the dozens of high ranking officials was Zeno. His court was almost exclusively Christian and his disbelief in there being pagans really left as a group isn't really that strange with non-elites having even less of a reason or attachment to paganism. He knew there were pagans, he knew one personally. The law is concerned with the practical outcome of its enactment, and this is where is doubt comes into play.
>See for example Hypatia
Hypatia was illegally murdered by a mob and Cyril was almost deposed and exiled for facilitating it. His reputation would not recover for over a decade after it.
>They were not overlooked at all
Except Symmachus and other later pagans all still were capable of having highly successful public careers and managed to practice the rites of their faith. Theodosius could have dismantled the Priestly College and disbanded all of the state cults if he wished, but he didn't. The College was filled with powerful senators who all openly aligned themselves with paganism and even spoke in its defence, and yet they were all allowed to practice it and nobody stopped them. Zeno under Theodosius II made multiple pagan patronages and nobody stopped him.
>He literally reconquered lost territories, restoring Rome to its normal size. You don't know what words mean
You don't know what the Romans, and later people thought of as conquest. Aurelian was not claiming new lands. He was taking back land that everybody still regarded as Roman back under central control by winning civil war. That's completely different from conquering a foreign territory in the eyes of people at the time and for the practical way it was achieved. By the same logic Valens conquered half of the Roman Empire from Procopius.
>A strong and influential minority, included in the educated elite.
This minority was exactly that. They simply did not have the numbers to be important and especially for Theodosius II the only known pagan in out of the dozens of high ranking officials was Zeno. His court was almost exclusively Christian and his disbelief in there being pagans really left as a group isn't really that strange with non-elites having even less of a reason or attachment to paganism. He knew there were pagans, he knew one personally. The law is concerned with the practical outcome of its enactment, and this is where is doubt comes into play.
>See for example Hypatia
Hypatia was illegally murdered by a mob and Cyril was almost deposed and exiled for facilitating it. His reputation would not recover for over a decade after it.
>They were not overlooked at all
Except Symmachus and other later pagans all still were capable of having highly successful public careers and managed to practice the rites of their faith. Theodosius could have dismantled the Priestly College and disbanded all of the state cults if he wished, but he didn't. The College was filled with powerful senators who all openly aligned themselves with paganism and even spoke in its defence, and yet they were all allowed to practice it and nobody stopped them. Zeno under Theodosius II made multiple pagan patronages and nobody stopped him.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:06:29 PM No.17803513
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:13:09 PM No.17803527
>>17803513
Justinian's western expansion drained the empire's resources and compromised the security of the east.
Justinian's western expansion drained the empire's resources and compromised the security of the east.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:24:42 PM No.17803554
>>17803527
>Justinian's western expansion drained the empire's resources
The state almost always existed in a hand to mouth regime of fiscal management. Justinian added Africa and Sicily which were both highly productive and profitable regions which only increased their resources. Only with the Lombard invasion and the opening of a new frontier could you make that argument but the administration in Ravenna and most of Italy was self sufficient. Even actively expansionist Emperors like Justin II and Maurice did not feel much of a need to invest resources into the West, but instead in campaigns against the Slavs and Persians.
>compromised the security of the east.
None of the armies which went West were from the Oriens army or the newly formed Armenian field army. They were largely recruited in Moesia by Belasarius and with parts of the Praesental army. Soldiers weren't taken from the East.
>Justinian's western expansion drained the empire's resources
The state almost always existed in a hand to mouth regime of fiscal management. Justinian added Africa and Sicily which were both highly productive and profitable regions which only increased their resources. Only with the Lombard invasion and the opening of a new frontier could you make that argument but the administration in Ravenna and most of Italy was self sufficient. Even actively expansionist Emperors like Justin II and Maurice did not feel much of a need to invest resources into the West, but instead in campaigns against the Slavs and Persians.
>compromised the security of the east.
None of the armies which went West were from the Oriens army or the newly formed Armenian field army. They were largely recruited in Moesia by Belasarius and with parts of the Praesental army. Soldiers weren't taken from the East.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:56:56 AM No.17805222
>Ostrogothic Kingdom
>Greco-Roman civilization
>Greco-Roman civilization
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 8:25:00 AM No.17805554
>there is the reported visit of a desert monk to Justinian’s court, who immediately recoiled back upon setting foot in the throne room, claiming to have seen not Justinian sitting on it, but the “Head of Demons.”
Literal Demon, worshipped as saint by Christcucks. Perfect
Literal Demon, worshipped as saint by Christcucks. Perfect
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:14:27 AM No.17805706
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:23:06 AM No.17805719
>>17803527
>compromised the security of the east.
Hey, Procopei, why don't you go fock yourself with Phocas and his fellow tards who have done that.
>compromised the security of the east.
Hey, Procopei, why don't you go fock yourself with Phocas and his fellow tards who have done that.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:54:46 AM No.17805755
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7/1/2025, 11:01:14 AM No.17805768
>>17805755
It terms of his political and military actions we do have a relatively unbiased look at what he did. Other than his supposed terrorising of the population at Constantinople. I think personally a lot of his terrible reputation comes from the fact that shortly after he was deposed Heraclius faced a crushing defeat near Antioch painting instead Phocas' reign as weak while on the defence. While it was true to some part his military efforts didn't actually show any signs of buckling during his reign and he secured the Balkans against the Avars early on which would later haunt Heraclius when they refused to make terms with him.
It's not really too hard to sift through the sources and see he did a relatively alright job, even if he was still losing.
It terms of his political and military actions we do have a relatively unbiased look at what he did. Other than his supposed terrorising of the population at Constantinople. I think personally a lot of his terrible reputation comes from the fact that shortly after he was deposed Heraclius faced a crushing defeat near Antioch painting instead Phocas' reign as weak while on the defence. While it was true to some part his military efforts didn't actually show any signs of buckling during his reign and he secured the Balkans against the Avars early on which would later haunt Heraclius when they refused to make terms with him.
It's not really too hard to sift through the sources and see he did a relatively alright job, even if he was still losing.
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:10:12 AM No.17805785
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:34:23 AM No.17805813
>>17805768
Fun history fact, this guy had bigger balls than you, Procopeii
Fun history fact, this guy had bigger balls than you, Procopeii
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:50:47 PM No.17806066
>>17803315
and they still failed, Christianity won, faggot demon gods BTFO
and they still failed, Christianity won, faggot demon gods BTFO
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 2:56:28 PM No.17806075
>>17806066
Christcuckery is dead and buried in the western world, only brown thirdie mutts believe in the bearded jew man in the sky
Christcuckery is dead and buried in the western world, only brown thirdie mutts believe in the bearded jew man in the sky
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Anonymous
7/1/2025, 3:05:55 PM No.17806092
>>17806075
keep telling yourself that larper lmao
keep telling yourself that larper lmao
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:56:51 PM No.17807000
>>17803464
>He literally reconquered lost territories, restoring Rome to its normal size. You don't know what words mean.
A thing that even Constantine did and in a much more impressive fashion with more limited resources
>He literally reconquered lost territories, restoring Rome to its normal size. You don't know what words mean.
A thing that even Constantine did and in a much more impressive fashion with more limited resources
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 10:58:39 PM No.17807008
>>17803527
It was actually Julian campaigns that comprised the East security when he lost almost 2/3 of the roman army agains the Persians, you are a illiterate monkey...
It was actually Julian campaigns that comprised the East security when he lost almost 2/3 of the roman army agains the Persians, you are a illiterate monkey...
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:20:38 PM No.17807056
>>17803464
I don’t really believe Hypatia existed.
I don’t really believe Hypatia existed.
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:22:27 PM No.17807059
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7/1/2025, 11:26:53 PM No.17807066
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:52:39 PM No.17807116
The Balkan frontiers collapsed at the end of Justinian's rule. Slavs would invade up to the Peloponnese shortly afterward. Maurice the emperor settled the eastern front with the persians was undone in the west where he was usurped by Phocas because no one wanted to campaign in the balkans in the winter. Justinian was a retard. His own conquests faded away quickly. The Lombards invaded Italy a few years after the gothic wars. The inland territory in Spain would be retaken by the visigoths with some coastal outposts remaining for a few decades. Only Africa remained as a whole conquest and even that was constantly invaded by moors and the byzantines had to turn it into a semi-independent state
Anonymous
7/1/2025, 11:54:49 PM No.17807119
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7/1/2025, 11:59:16 PM No.17807134
>>17803554
>Only with the Lombard invasion
started right after the gothic wars.
>the administration in Ravenna and most of Italy was self sufficient
Italy after the gothic wars was a shithole and the byzantines would lose more influence and be restricted to the cost and sicily while Italy went its own way.
>Even actively expansionist Emperors like Justin II and Maurice did not feel much of a need to invest resources into the West, but instead in campaigns against the Slavs and Persians.
The Slavs and Persians only became such a huge issue in Justin II, Tiberius II, and Maurice's reigns because of Justinian's policies. Near the end of Justinian's reign he had to summon Belisarius to defend Constantinople as it was under threat by the bulgars because the balkan frontier didn't exist anymore because of Justinian's policies. The Persians also saw the situation and took advantage of byzantine weakness
>Only with the Lombard invasion
started right after the gothic wars.
>the administration in Ravenna and most of Italy was self sufficient
Italy after the gothic wars was a shithole and the byzantines would lose more influence and be restricted to the cost and sicily while Italy went its own way.
>Even actively expansionist Emperors like Justin II and Maurice did not feel much of a need to invest resources into the West, but instead in campaigns against the Slavs and Persians.
The Slavs and Persians only became such a huge issue in Justin II, Tiberius II, and Maurice's reigns because of Justinian's policies. Near the end of Justinian's reign he had to summon Belisarius to defend Constantinople as it was under threat by the bulgars because the balkan frontier didn't exist anymore because of Justinian's policies. The Persians also saw the situation and took advantage of byzantine weakness
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 12:01:51 AM No.17807139
>>17805768
You forgot to mention the persians were bogged down in eastern anatolia and only broke through and conquered the eastern provinces because Heraclius and his father blocked the grain shipments to Constantinople.
You forgot to mention the persians were bogged down in eastern anatolia and only broke through and conquered the eastern provinces because Heraclius and his father blocked the grain shipments to Constantinople.
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:16:57 AM No.17807285
>>17803337
Good meme
Good meme
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:28:29 AM No.17808320
>>17807119
>Dumbass post the heraclian map
>dumb byzaboos
Shalom kosher potato, did Justinian's rule end in 641 AD?
>Dumbass post the heraclian map
>dumb byzaboos
Shalom kosher potato, did Justinian's rule end in 641 AD?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 11:30:44 AM No.17808456
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7/2/2025, 1:38:46 PM No.17808730
>>17808456
Justinian sacrificed innocent Goth babies to summon the plague
Justinian sacrificed innocent Goth babies to summon the plague
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7/2/2025, 1:52:48 PM No.17808753
>>17807119
Five front war (Balkan, Italy, Anatolia, Egypt and Maghreb)
Five front war (Balkan, Italy, Anatolia, Egypt and Maghreb)
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:09:39 PM No.17808776
>>17808733
That's the royal couple's erotic play
That's the royal couple's erotic play
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 2:13:48 PM No.17808785
Why is byzantine art so incredibly shitty?
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 8:19:13 PM No.17809415
>>17803337
what is even that mosaic? is it the procopius, or the flying justinian's head?
what is even that mosaic? is it the procopius, or the flying justinian's head?
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:00:56 PM No.17809719
>>17809415
I think it's completely unrelated to Justy and anon used it because it looks memeable
I think it's completely unrelated to Justy and anon used it because it looks memeable
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:05:44 PM No.17809735
>>17809407
Gay post
Gay post
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 10:38:51 PM No.17809810
>>17809415
>>17809795
I've seen it on as a book cover for Secret History, yet I can't find it anywhere now. I was wondering where it's from.
>>17809795
I've seen it on as a book cover for Secret History, yet I can't find it anywhere now. I was wondering where it's from.
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 12:59:06 AM No.17810118
>>17808320
>subhuman byzaboo can't read
Justinians reconquests were not affected by the arabs in 641. The map you see are the results from Justin II, Tiberius II and Maurice
>>17807134
>The Slavs and Persians only became such a huge issue in Justin II, Tiberius II, and Maurice's reigns because of Justinian's policies. Near the end of Justinian's reign he had to summon Belisarius to defend Constantinople as it was under threat by the bulgars because the balkan frontier didn't exist anymore because of Justinian's policies. The Persians also saw the situation and took advantage of byzantine weakness
>subhuman byzaboo can't read
Justinians reconquests were not affected by the arabs in 641. The map you see are the results from Justin II, Tiberius II and Maurice
>>17807134
>The Slavs and Persians only became such a huge issue in Justin II, Tiberius II, and Maurice's reigns because of Justinian's policies. Near the end of Justinian's reign he had to summon Belisarius to defend Constantinople as it was under threat by the bulgars because the balkan frontier didn't exist anymore because of Justinian's policies. The Persians also saw the situation and took advantage of byzantine weakness
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Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:10:53 AM No.17810988
>>17807134
>The Slavs and Persians only became such a huge issue in Justin II, Tiberius II, and Maurice's reigns because of Justinian's policies.
The Slavic invasions aren't due to Justinian at all. They were an active problem during his reign, they were a migrating people who were consistently an issue and they weren't going away. Calling Persians an issue due to Justinian is stupid, they had their own agency and most of the attacks were caused by the Persians, unprompted. The decay in relations between the two powers was mutual and in the 6th century, started by the Persians, not the Romans.
>because the balkan frontier didn't exist anymore because of Justinian's policies
Justinian for his entire reign attempted to keep a tight hand on the affairs of the Balkans, it was one of the regions he kept the majority of his diplomatic efforts and always applied military effort when needed. The attack was due to three large groups suddenly invading, which was a consistent issue even a century ago.
>The Slavs and Persians only became such a huge issue in Justin II, Tiberius II, and Maurice's reigns because of Justinian's policies.
The Slavic invasions aren't due to Justinian at all. They were an active problem during his reign, they were a migrating people who were consistently an issue and they weren't going away. Calling Persians an issue due to Justinian is stupid, they had their own agency and most of the attacks were caused by the Persians, unprompted. The decay in relations between the two powers was mutual and in the 6th century, started by the Persians, not the Romans.
>because the balkan frontier didn't exist anymore because of Justinian's policies
Justinian for his entire reign attempted to keep a tight hand on the affairs of the Balkans, it was one of the regions he kept the majority of his diplomatic efforts and always applied military effort when needed. The attack was due to three large groups suddenly invading, which was a consistent issue even a century ago.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:13:00 AM No.17810991
>>17810118
>Justinians reconquests were not affected by the arabs in 641. The map you see are the results from Justin II, Tiberius II and Maurice
> Maurice killed in 602 AD, posts map from 641 AD
>not mentioning Phocas and his giga tardisim
When using anachronistic map, at least mention historic figures who affected it, shill.
>The Persians also saw the situation and took advantage of byzantine weakness
Wow, shill, is that merchpedia or talmud? Yeah, the situation was so bad that Sassanid emperor Khosrow II granted extra territory to Romans due to emperor Maurice’s help he received during civil war. And then tard Phocas butchered Maurice, gave Sassanids noice casus belli and opened the gates of hell.
>Justinians reconquests were not affected by the arabs in 641. The map you see are the results from Justin II, Tiberius II and Maurice
> Maurice killed in 602 AD, posts map from 641 AD
>not mentioning Phocas and his giga tardisim
When using anachronistic map, at least mention historic figures who affected it, shill.
>The Persians also saw the situation and took advantage of byzantine weakness
Wow, shill, is that merchpedia or talmud? Yeah, the situation was so bad that Sassanid emperor Khosrow II granted extra territory to Romans due to emperor Maurice’s help he received during civil war. And then tard Phocas butchered Maurice, gave Sassanids noice casus belli and opened the gates of hell.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:14:34 AM No.17810993
What a paradoxical emperor
Destroys rome by restoring rome.
Emphasizes the Christian menace over remaining pagan practices.
And burns the remaining italian cities killing the remaining latins in his reconquest.
Destroys rome by restoring rome.
Emphasizes the Christian menace over remaining pagan practices.
And burns the remaining italian cities killing the remaining latins in his reconquest.
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