Thread 17810038

All ancient civilizations had a CHG/Iran_N component.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-02102-y

For those who don't know what this is:

>The dynastic race theory was the earliest thesis to attempt to explain how predynastic Egypt developed into the sophisticated monarchy of Dynastic Egypt. The theory holds that the earliest roots of the ancient Egyptian dynastic civilisation were imported by invaders from Mesopotamia who then founded the First Dynasty and brought culture to the indigenous population. This theory had strong supporters in the Egyptological community in the first half of the 20th century, but has since lost mainstream support

>In the early 20th century, Egyptologist Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie deduced that skeletal remains found at pre-dynastic sites at Naqada (Upper Egypt) indicated the presence of two different races, with the Dynastic Race, also referred to as the "Followers of Horus", differentiated physically by a noticeably larger skeletal structure and cranial capacity. Petrie concluded that the physical differences of the remains in conjunction with the previously unknown burial styles, uncharacteristic tomb architecture, and abundance of foreign artifacts, implied this race must have been an invading ruling elite that was responsible for the seemingly sudden rise of Egyptian civilization

>Based on plentiful cultural evidence, Petrie determined that the invader race had come from Mesopotamia, and imposed themselves on the native Badarian culture to become their rulers. Petrie adduced new architectural styles—the distinctly Mesopotamian "niched-facade" architecture—pottery styles, cylinder seals and a few artworks, as well as numerous Predynastic rock and tomb paintings depicting Mesopotamian style boats, symbols, and figures

Is everyone ready for endless, pointless walls of text??
>>17810038 (OP)
>ONE SAMPLE
Nah

>>17810038 (OP)
very useless study, because it used a single individual, I don't know if you know, but there is something called "sampling bias" where we should not make conclusions without having a range of at least more than 5 samples to form anything. and the article itself says more than once that more samples are necessary for any conclusion.

>>17810038 (OP)
>The mitochondrial DNA (haplogroup I/N1a1b2) and chromosome Y (haplogroup E1b1b1b2b~) haplogroups of the Nuwayrat individual are most common in present-day North African and West Asian groups (Supplementary Table4), consistent with the whole-genome affinities.

We won CHG sisters, Natufian men fucked our tight pink pussies

>>17810039
>This came to be called the "dynastic race theory". The theory further argued that the Mesopotamians then conquered both Upper and Lower Egypt and founded the First Dynasty. Predynastic and First Dynasty burial sites similar to Naqada were also found at Abydos, Sakkara, and Hieraconpolis

>Versions of the Dynastic race model were adopted by scholars as L. A. Waddell, and Walter Bryan Emery, a former Chair of Egyptology at University College London

>Dating to about 5600-4400 BC of the Faiyum Neolithic, continued expansion of the desert forced the early ancestors of the Egyptians to settle around the Nile more permanently, adopting increasingly sedentary lifestyles. The Faiyum A industry is the earliest farming culture in the Nile Valley. Archaeological deposits that have been found are characterized by concave base projectile points and pottery. Around 6210 BC, Neolithic settlements appear all over Egypt. Some studies based on morphological, genetic, and archaeological data have attributed these settlements to migrants from the Fertile Crescent in the Near East returning during the Egyptian and North African Neolithic, bringing agriculture to the region

>The Fertile Crescent (Arabic: الهلال الخصيب) is a crescent-shaped region in the Middle East, spanning modern-day Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Palestine, and Syria, together with northern Kuwait, south-eastern Turkey, and western Iran

>>17810043
>>17810048
Cope, Joseph. The Neolithic Revolution began in the Fertile Crescent and was brought to Egypt there by immigrants. Ancient Sumer > Ancient Egypt.

>>17810048
>>17810043
that's why I always say;
>retards, read beyond the abstract
especially people like the OP, who of all spammers, has a history of low cognitive level when it comes to general interpretation. but the study is interesting in addressing amounts of Eurasian ancestry in Eastern art from the Neolithic to the IA, that's kino. it just went down over time

>>17810038 (OP)
Dude, this is literally a single sample
and you're not a genius because you figured out that Mesopotamia had some influence on Egypt D:
and this guy's distal model categorically states that it was predominant Levant_N
>>17810048
apparently the MENA climate is rubbish for sample preservation those philistine samples people lard had a horrible number of SNPs

>>17810050
In Ancient Egypt, captured Iberoumaurusian-derived women were turned into whores and used in state brothels where the lowest Levant_N males could fuck young nubile Iberoumaurusian females. Rich CHG-derived Egyptian males often had harems of Iberoumaurusian sex slaves called ḥmt-bꜣw (literally "Nafri wife of the CHG cock")

CHG-derived Arab males are using Iberoumaurusian-derived Berber women as cumdumpsters even today. It is well known that Berber females are abducted at the age of fourteen and are then married to CHG-derived males who breed them til they become used goods and are sent back to Berber bois.

The cities of the Maghreb are dominated by J-carrying population. All the civil institutions, legal courts, all the policemen, all of the elite, all the soldiers are all J-carrying Arabs. Only the rural desert-dwellers and immigrants to cities are E-carrying and they are routinely beaten, robbed, raped, and harassed by the J-carrying males.

>>17810056
>Joseph
Zucoid, wft are you talking about?
The one who is being embarrassed here is you, not me with cuckold sexual fantasies based on an isolated sample

Hmmm... what did this Circassian sex pet meant by this.

>>17810038 (OP)
>>17810039
>>17810056
They are Levant_N, who is closer to Anatolia_N than CHG/Iran_N. >>17810062 is right.

>>17810104
Egyptians were matriarchal actually

>>17810104
the PCA of the study shows that he is close to the Egyptians (lavant_N) of any chruka, Brazilian spammer is stupid as fuck
>>17810110
Yes

>>17810110
Like Minoans.

>>17810102
Hmmm it seems this CHG pet literally stole a text about his fellow Coptic sandnigresses being used as fuck toys by Egyptians.


As Tolkien said, evil cannot create anything new, only bastardise and corrupt.

>>17810120
>giving her giant tits
can you believe there are faggots actually complaining about this? lol

>>17810076
Sound a lot of cope by faggots who got raped by indo aryans and turko-mongols on the regular

>>17810122
Oh no no
>>17810076
Your wives where regulary used as sex slaves by everybody in history

>>17810120
>We coulda been a race of big tittied women and dark haired clean shaven twunks

The master race ruined by those wooly haired Mycenaean apes.

>>17810120
Coomer
>>17810127
Yeah, its 1000% fake
>Two famous Minoan snake goddess figurines from Knossos (one illustrated below) show bodices that circle their breasts, but do not cover them at all. These striking figures have dominated the popular image of Minoan clothing, and have been copied in some "reconstructions" of largely destroyed frescos, but few images unambiguously show this costume, and the status of the figures—goddesses, priestesses, or devotees—is not at all clear. What is clear, from pieces like the Agia Triada Sarcophagus, is that Minoan women normally covered their breasts; priestesses in religious contexts may have been an exception

Coomer bros?? Our answer?!?!

>>17810114
>CHG
>Churkas
The people with the most CHG are the Georgians, whose lands were called Iberia, from which the name of the shithole you lives probably shares the same root word.

>Jones et al. (2015) analyzed genomes from males from western Georgia, in the Caucasus, from the Late Upper Palaeolithic (13,300 years old) and the Mesolithic (9,700 years old). These two males carried Y-DNA haplogroup: J* and J2a, later refined to J1-FT34521, and J2-Y12379*, and mitochondrial haplogroups of K3 and H13c, respectively. Their genomes showed that a continued mixture of the Caucasians with Middle Eastern populations took place up to 25,000 years ago, when the coldest period in the last Ice Age started

>CHG ancestry was also found in an Upper Palaeolithic specimen from Satsurblia cave (dated c.11000 BC), and in a Mesolithic one from Kotias Klde cave, in western Georgia (dated c.7700 BC). The Satsurblia individual is closest to modern populations from the South Caucasus

>As for the Iberian Peninsula, they most often refer to the Ebro River – called Iberos in Greek and Hiberus in Latin (Polybius mentions that the local name is Iber). There are theories about the Basque words ibar (valley) and ibai (river), but there is no conclusive evidence that the name of the Ebro River is derived from these words

>In the case of Iberia, which was later in Georgia, the name probably derives from Armenian words related to words from the Kartvelian languages, or from Colchid terms describing the territories lying “on the other side” of the Lichske Mountains (in relation to Colchis)

>Already ancient writers deduced the mutual kinship of peoples from both regions. According to them, the patriarch Tubal founded the Iberian Kingdom from Caucasus, and from there he moved into the west founding in Spain the Western Iberian Kingdom

>>17810127
>>17810143
Sur exposition to titties would kill your attraction towards them
It wouldnt be as exciting and special

>>17810155
>nooooo don't dismantle my matriarchal coomer fantasy! I like to dream of a liberal coomer world in the bronze age! stop

>>17810159
So churkas
Churka mean caucasus peoples

>>17810160
no, retard. there was a study that found societies that show their women's breasts did not change the innate sexual attraction to breasts during sex, but you are all wrong, because as the other guy said, they did not walk around with their breasts exposed

coomers are so sexually confused, that these retarded zoomers wouldn't have a problem with their women showing their breasts for other men to see LMAO
and they're the same chuds who complain about the sexual revolution of the 60s
everyone who is a zoomer is cosmic trash

>>17810062
We (Mediterranean Europeans) were kings nigga!

>>17810159
>The name was changed from Iberia into Spain because of Hispan, he was the grandson of Hercules (who killed the the previous king, Geryon in his labors in the Western Mediterranean)

>Hispan, Espan, Hispalo or Hispano, is a mythological character of Antiquity, who would derive the name Hispania, according to some ancient writers. Therefore, Hispan is the eponymous hero of Hispania. Hispan is mentioned first by the Gallo-Roman historian Gnaeus Pompeius Trogus (1st century BC) in his work Historiae Philippicae, preserved only in a later summary, probably made in the 3rd century AD by Justinus. During the Middle Ages, Hispan was also known as Espan, with various legends told of him

>The first genealogical affiliation of the character of Hispan occurs in the Estoria of Spain commissioned by Alfonso X the Wise in the 13th century, in which he is mentioned as a nephew of Hercules who arrived with him to the Iberian Peninsula. Later versions of the legend present him as the son of the Greek hero and others, even later, as the son of Hispalo and grandson of Hercules

>The Pillars of Hercules appear as supporters of the flag and coat of arms of Spain, originating in the impresa of Spain's sixteenth century king Charles I, who was also the Holy Roman Emperor as Charles V. It was an idea of the Italian humanist Luigi Marliano. It bears the motto Plus Ultra, Latin for further beyond, implying that the pillars were a gateway. This was modified from the phrase Nec plus ultra, Nothing more beyond after the discovery of the Americas, which laid to rest the idea of the Pillars of Hercules as the westernmost extremity of the inhabitable world which had prevailed since Antiquity

>>17810159
>>17810174
>Sallust mentions in his work on the Jugurthine War that the Africans believe Heracles to have died in Spain where, his multicultural army being left without a leader, the Medes, Persians, and Armenians who were once under his command split off and populated the Mediterranean coast of Africa

>>17810176
>Jugurthine War
>multicultural army

>>17810165
It would still be sexy but you could coom 3 times in a woman then it would be boring

>>17810164
Georgians are closer to Iranians than Caucasians.
>>17810181
Carthage was founded by Tyrians, whose patron god was Melqart (Heracles)

>>17810189
What the hell are you talking about

>>17810076
Arabs are our slaves and their beurettes are our sex toys. You're lucky you churkas are too irrelevant for us to even bother with you or we would wipe you out like we're doing to Euros.

>>17810050
>>17810076
>>17810038 (OP)
Why does every thread about ancient peoples turn into racebait contest? I believe most people itt are of european descent, not MENA, so it's not personal at all.

>>17810238
Churka women were notorious to be sex slaves in the ancient times/middle ages

>>17810243
The Middle East is the America of Eurasia, it was raped time and again by the North African race characterized by haplogroup E, the Caucasian race characterized by haplogroup J, Turkic race characterized by haplogroup Q and T, and the European race characterized by haplogroup R.

>>17810062
>>17810171

Why does the new Egypt paper have BA Anatolia modeled like this? Lazaridis 2017 had Anatolia_BA = 61.8% Anatolian_N + 31.9% CHG + 6.3% Levantine_N.

>>17810039
>Afro-Americans feel angry about this word because in the collective unconscious it reminds them of when they were treated as slaves/second-class citizens and also because they don't know that this word is just a English foreignization of the word Negro in Spanish which just means Black. It's like calling me Spic, which is just a corruption of the word Speak, since the Hispanics spoke broken English like the word Kike, which was what the Jews at Ellis Island called the Circle they drew to sign entry-forms instead of the X/cross. Getting angry about it loses its meaning when you know the full context

>>17810511
T is MENA, its not turkic
Also turkics were more R than Q
Q is very rare

>>17810038 (OP)
>middle east and egypt are connected
>harappa and china probably too
that leaves us with only one true other civ-building race left
VHG... the NORTE CHICO chads... we won

>>17810038 (OP)
This has been known for a while. Sumerian civilization is much older and Mesopotamians conquered Egypt. That's why there's a sudden influx of G and J in Egypt.

>>17810120
AI slop

>>17810143
>>17810160

What about the volcanic eruption of Santorini/Thera? (1600 BC)

>>17810038 (OP)
I read the whole thread and there is not a single proof to your claim to be seen

CHG/IRN_N were sourced from the caucasus and zagros as the name suggests and sumer itself is un investigated genetically so how the fuck would you come to conclude that?

Some people are just hellbent on discrediting Egyptians and it has been this way forever

>>17812032
>Some people are just hellbent on discrediting Egyptians
I think they're just hellbent on explaining a timeline that doesn't make sense. No civilization ever starts out at their cultural and technological peak, yet right at Egypt appears, they supposedly build their greatest pyramid? Doesn't make sense. They have sophisticated hieroglyphics and ancient writings that are god knows how old, yet the Phoenicians develop the alphabet as a simplified version of the hieroglyphs? Again, doesn't make sense. Anyone who buys the official narrative of history is a simp.