There are zero world religions that admonish sex with teens.

>>17810224 (OP)
What about cults that mandate celibacy for all followers?

What's your point?

>>17810224 (OP)
Most world religions began prior to modern medicine when pretty much singular object of any sexual relationship was to make as many new humans as fast as possible and raise them well enough before you died. Christianity encourages celibacy outside of life-long marriages for what it is worth, and I think its pretty safe to say now that we are out of the iron age its best to wait till your mid to late twenties or early thirties before starting a family.

>>17810224 (OP)
the average lifespan of a person was 30 and having your period was seen as a coming of age for a woman.

>>17810725
>late twenties or early thirties
Are you insane?

>>17810810
This is a pretty ideal time to start a family, you are still young but ideally you have a career and time to find a suitable partner whose goals and desires match your own. Spend your late teens and early twenties building yourself into the person you want to be and then start looking for someone to build a life with as you approach 30. This is like insanely rational advice for the modern world, I am not sure what you thought I said but I really don't see how there could be any reasonable grounds to say this is "insane". If you manage to find someone worth keeping at 19 or 20 don't let them go, but it's good advice to just monk it and focus on yourself in your early 20s should that not be the case.

>>17810830
That is an advanced age for fertility.

>>17810832
Your mid 20s?

>>17810832
Your 20's is not "advanced age" and is in fact the healthiest time and the time the majority of people were having kids throughout 99% of history. It was only the nobility and similar ultra elite who tried to marry off women and have them pump out babies in their early teens, because for the nobility, producing an heir as fast as possible order to seal the pact (since marriages for the nobility were political and business transactions) and making sure there was and heir in case the man died, was far more important than the health of the mother.

>>17810842
>>17810846
Late 20s to early 30s
>It was only the nobility and similar ultra elite who tried to marry off women and have them pump out babies in their early teens
Optimal fertility is late teens to mid twenties. Most people started making babies then and most people produced large families.

>>17810851
I said start looking around your mid 20s, it takes some people, especially those here, a while to find what they are looking for. I'm not gonna shame some autistic virgin for not having a trad wife by 24.

>>17810862
Who said anything about shaming?

>>17810863
I mean that in the sense that most people don't have the career and self they'd likely want to start a family with by their mid 20s, which is pretty normal, men also stay fertile for quite some time. The idea that you should rush into a marriage you are uncertain of is just as unsound as telling a woman (or man for that matter) to fuck as much as possible between the ages of 18 and 27. Both can set you up for failure, your 20s are really when you need to be learning about moderation and solitude anyways.

>>17810872
I mean that in the sense that most people don't have the career and self they'd likely want to start a family with until* their mid 20s, slight typo

>>17810830
>ideally you have a career
the whole career trajectory is made up. you're good enough to start working at 13 as a man. Both mentally and physically in many cases.

>>17810916
I prefer having children and young adults seek secondary and post-secondary education so they maybe don't have to be day laborers their entire lives, who knows, maybe that makes me a retard.

>>17810872
You don't need to be perfect to make sure a kid doesn't kill himself even your wife is primarily supposed to do that. Plus kids aren't even cognizant for like the first five years so if you have your first one you have enough time to go from zero to employable in just about any field minus highly regulated ones like medicine.

>>17810918
If you think you need secondary or post secondary education to avoid being a day laborer then yea you may be a retard.

>>17810927
I assume your drop shipping business is just one LLC loan away from generating you 20k passive income a month? Either way secondary education and post-secondary are beneficial for a variety of other reasons assuming you aren't swallowing Jewish propaganda the entire time. It is nice that secondary education can teach you up to calculus and basic physical chemistry, in my eyes most children should have about that level of understanding in applied sciences before they decide whether or not a construction gig is preferable. Yes you can free yourself from prole shackles, but secondary and post-secondary education especially create a funnel for those with aptitude that doesn't place the onus on you already having crafted a blue print for rising through the social ladder without qualifications.

>>17810921
I am of the opinion that the first 5 years of a child life are some of the most important for helping them to understand your consistent and caring presence in their life. In my ideal world the collective family would help to raise the child with the new parents being given significant time to devote to those early years. I think anyone who has brought a child into the world can attest that these years blow by quite fast and are some of the ones you need the most free time to handle.

>>17810927
My assumption, however, is that you want to do away with parental involvement and education at a young age because you want to fuck 14 year olds thrust into the working world unprepared and perhaps even a little financially desperate. If long term education and familial bonds are absent, the child is much easier for you to prey on as they lack the protective figures in their life to stop you from hurting them.

>>17810916
So you want a bunch of financially desperate 13 year old boys running around with minimal education and little to no familial support? Hmm I wonder why that might be.

Most people were dead by their mid thirties so a teen was basically an adult in 90% if the world until the modern era.

>>17810725
>its best to wait till your mid to late twenties or early thirties before starting a family.
this is degenerate and you fail to realize why.

>>17810946
why do women need to be educated

>>17810224 (OP)
. . . yet. That's called an available niche

>>17810224 (OP) Yes. And you know why? Because religions don't preach attachment to the body and mundane pursuits. Religions preach bliss, not happiness that comes and goes.

>>17810224 (OP)
Good

>>17810742
Funny thing periods used to happen considerably later before the industrial revolution, coming of age ceremonies like quinceaneras were supposed to be the time a girl would get her period the normal time was 14-17. Something happened across the world to speed them up and now they are happening as early as 8.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26703478/

>>17812708
Why does anyone need to be educated? You place the cart before the horse, women in education does not bring about the modern issues we have, it is women in the labor force and the subsequent pay decrease and increase in tax burden that came along with it. I think an educated wife can assist in the tutelage of children at the very least, I also believe in education for education's sake, in addition to the other reasons I mentioned here >>17810937

>>17812700
>this is degenerate and you fail to realize why

I think waiting until you are ready to start a family is not a bad idea, I did not suggest that one should engage in pre-marital sex, in fact I argued that the time one spends preparing themselves for a relationship is best done in solitude as an exercise in moderation.

>>17813151
Estrogenic medicine has flooded our water supply in the form of birth control and other hormonal treatments, this has caused young women to enter puberty earlier and young men to have delayed puberty and fertility issues later in life. Mind you pedophiles celebrate this alarming public health trend.

>>17813151
Human body temperature has also been dropping over time globally. These things are really weird.

>>17813255
back in the day the age of consent was a low as 10 in the US, they needed no excuse for it they just were

>>17810810
Aristotle recommends 18 for women and 37 for men.