>6,000,000 in 6 camps in less than 3 years...

>>17813332 (OP)


The "Jewish family Opioide" you're likely referring to is the Sackler family, specifically members of the Raymond and Mortimer Sackler families. They were involved in Purdue Pharma, the company that manufactured and heavily marketed the opioid painkiller OxyContin. Multiple states sued them for their role in the opioid crisis due to the deceptive marketing practices of Purdue Pharma.
Specifically, the individuals named as defendants in these lawsuits include:
Richard Sackler, Theresa Sackler, Kathe Sackler, Jonathan Sackler, Mortimer Sackler, Beverly Sackler, David Sackler, and Ilene Sackler.
The family has maintained that they were unaware of the deceptive marketing practices and that their opioids were not addictive. Some family members have also stated that those who abused their drugs were already addicts. Wikipedia says some members of the family were named in suits over their involvement in the opioid epidemic in the United States.

>>17813332 (OP)
Holocaust denial is redundant at this point because zoomers already have jew fatigue from recent events.

>>17813332 (OP)
Niggers with machetes could manage an even higher death rate, yet you're claiming the Aryan master race couldn't?

>>17813338
I dont think its just Zoomers, more like Jizzrael and Conservative Joos have spent decades using up the sympathy capital of the Holocaust that it is now beginning to dry up and now they're panicking because they cant get sympathy points no more due to >the current thing.

>>17813332 (OP)
Not 6 million killed in camps no

>>17813332 (OP)
Honestly, the fact there are any left is proof it never happened.

>>17813343
I think OP is disappointed that there are no bomes so the holocauster's myth doesn't hold water.

>>17813338
>>17813351
You basically have to be both a boomer and a Republican to like Israel at this point. I mean excluding people who are actually part of the government or the military-industrial complex, and also Jews I guess.

>>17813332 (OP)

The Rwanda Genocide killed a million people (something like 65% of the entire Tutsi Population) in a single year between the start of April and mid July. So like 4'ish months.
You're telling me a bunch of niggers with garden tools can kill nearly a million people in a couple of months, but the Nazis couldn't do a few more with infinitely more prep and resources? This sounds like a skill issue to me.

>>17813426
>Most scholarly estimates suggest between 500,000 and 662,000 Tutsi died

>>17813338
You can dislike Israel and not being a retard who denies holocaust.

Riddle me this

Why did the concentration camps have swimming pools and maternity wards?

>>17813444
Why not? Also, that's a Slovak camp.

>>17813426
>>17813440

Assuming the rate of deaths stayed the same the Rwandan's would have killed, even at the lower estimate of 500,000 people, 4.5 million people in a 3 year span.
Killing 6 million people in 3 years is a completely achievable/believable goal. China killed somewhere between 15 and 31 million people between 1959 and 1961 by not feeding people. I don't get why both Jews and Nazis insist that the Holocaust is so immaterial and special.

>>17813444
Who told you it was a swimming pool for Jews and why did you believe them?

>>17813343
That's because every nigger participate in the violence so genocide is quick.
Nazi Germany only had the secret police available for killing Jews. The holocaust would be quick too if every adult German personally go out and cut down every Jew they saw

>>17813452
>If we take these few months of extreme and unsustainable violence, and extrapolate it to several years, it almost matches!

>>17813460
>only had the secret police
the regular german army also took part

Reminder that jews used the holocaust gibs to found israel
It makes sense that they would manufacture new narratives to bergain for more gibs that would allow them to create more narratives thus more gibs

>>17813332 (OP)
>>17813398

/thread its a boomer retard trait that we’ll write about in the history books

>>17813332 (OP)
Why have the numbers changed so much over time?

>>17813398
Netanyahu has fucked it. I'm willing to bet those numbers are way worse after the Iran shitshow. I couldn't imagine someone like Tucker Carlson eviscerating Ted Cruz over AIPAC and Israel a couple of years ago.

>>17813575
Because historians have investigated (you know, that thing you pretend they're not allowed to do) and come up with new sets of data based on new evidence and different people having different definitions over time?

>>17813332 (OP)
I wish it were real

>>17813575
6 is a magic number for jews

>>17813338
I think it has actually been a catalyst for Holocaust denial, in several different ways.

1. There's a reason why people compare Israel's actual, proven war crimes against the Palestinians (which are elaborate and cruel for the sake of cruelty) to those allegedly committed against the Jews by the Germans. That's not just because World War II is a major point of comparison; it's because there are very few modern comparisons. Holocaust deniers would argue, perhaps correctly, that the reason for this is that both the Israeli war crimes and the allegations against Germany come from the same Jewish minds, which have a preoccupation with vengeance and cruelty to what they perceive as their historical enemies.

2. Israel has been lying and deceiving as a matter of policy during the course of this war. Absolutely nothing that the Israeli government says can be assumed to be true. Some, no doubt, are wondering whether it's only the government that is lying, or whether the people are also simply habitual liars who will try to get people to take their side by lying. From there, it's only a small leap to the idea that Jews at the time lied about what the Germans did to them in order to turn the world against Germany and in favor of the creation of Israel as a "safe haven for the endangered Jewish people".

>>17813351
People who worship hitler and they are radical leftists (nazis).

>>17813452
I think >>17813426's argument is that if the Germans (who were far more organized and resourceful than the Hutus) had wanted to exterminate the Jews in Europe, they would have done a much better job of it in 4 years, percentage-wise, than the Hutus did in 4 months. That's another issue I have with mainstream Holocaust historians; they seem to believe, tactically, that the Germans were at once evil and incompetent in their dealings with the Jews, to the point that, although they gassed or shot most Jews immediately, the extermination camps were found by the Allies to still be full of women, children and elderly by the time they were liberated.

When the Red Army arrived at Auschwitz, for instance, they found thousands of elderly, disabled or sick people and small children who had been left behind as they had been unable to join the march back to Germany. Why did the Germans - who, at the same time, were said to be organizing a "death march" where all those who walked too slowly were shot - let these witnesses to their crimes live?

From a purely rational standpoint, mainstream historical discourse about the Holocaust is schizophrenic, casting the Germans as ultra-competent villains, but also bumbling idiots who left half of their victims alive to tell the tale.

>>17813643
Because they expected them to die after being abandoned in the freezing winter weather and were running for their lives themselves?

>>17813644
Then why did they shoot the ones who couldn't keep up on the march instead of leaving them, also, to die in the cold?

>>17813654
Because at that point they were a disorganised rabble themselves and as mentioned, running for their lives.

>>17813332 (OP)
>6 camps

There were 6 extermination camps and dozens of other concentration camps
>camps
Not every holocaust victim was killed in the camps

>>17813662
OP already knew this and this is a bait thread.

>>17813332 (OP)
Holocaust really spans the entire war (1939-1945, ~7 years). Also, not all victims were killed in concentration camps.

Most deniers are so ignorant they dont even know the basics of the narrative that they are denying

>>17813695
There is no need to know the fine details of a fiction.

>>17813444
>Auschwitz is built as a barracks for German soldiers
>it is then converted into a prison for Polish civilians after the surrounding area is taken over for the use of German colonist/settlers
>THEN it is turned into a concentration camp for mostly jews
So throughout all of these cases, German troops were stationed there so of course there were amenities, like pools, to keep the soldiers occupied. Obviously the prisoners there would not have access to these things and someone has to be deliberately stupid to not realize this.

btw I've been on tour at Auschwitz and one of the first things that they show off is the "pool for jews" lol

>>17813698
Cope for the fact that deniers are wrong about everything.

>>17813487
>AHHH THE ACTRESS IS MORE ATTRATIVE THAN THE REAL PERSON IN THE MOVIE!
>THIS PROVES THAT THE HOLOCAUST NEVER HAPPENED!
I firmly believe only a brown person is retarded enough to post something like this and think it means anything.

>nobody complained about Germany deporting Jews from the Netherlands or France
>It was actually the poles that first complained about Jewish deportations
>Because the Germans were mass deporting Jews from Warsaw which was to be a new German capital
>So the actual only time that people complained about Nazi deportations was operation reinhard
>The polish government in exile printed a pamphlet outlining Jewish extermination around Warsaw in 1943
>Operation reinhard is claimed to have only killed about 1/3 of the total Jewish population
So let me get this straight, there's 4 million unaccounted for deaths in the Holocaust that nobody was concerned with not even the poles until during the peak of operation reinhard... Meaning in all likelihood it was the only such event to have occurred. Meaning right off the bat most of the Holocaust is easily falsifiable since literally nobody cared because nothing was happening

>>17813332 (OP)
>neonazis doubting transcendent German efficiency

>>17813699
It's like looking at a photo a death row prison in American and deciding that the inmates must be driving around all day because there's a parking lot outside.

>>17813708
>nobody complained about Germany deporting Jews from the Netherlands or France

Citation needed.

>>17813332 (OP)
Yet somehow niggers with machetes killed over half a million Tutsis and Twa in 3 months.

>>17813714
Operation reinhard is the first and only time there was an international outcry about Jewish deportations. Where's the other 4 million deaths? Nobody complained about those apparently

>>17813338
>>17813332 (OP)
It's the fault of Jewish lobby for pushing made-up figures for overdramatic effect of being the worst event in history.

Were they put in concentration camps in higher rates than any group? Yes.
Were they killed in great numbers and suffered a significant loss of their population? Yes.
Were Jews the only people that were the only group in camps and suffered 6 million deaths, most of whom died in gas chambers? No.

Because of the last ridiculous claim, it gets easier to disregard the first two as well. Since the public view is against them these days, it would be logical for Jews to reduce their claims to reality and to hope that people won't reject their entire victim persona because of the ridiculous 6 million figure.

>>17813718
>apparently

>>17813720
>Since the public view is against them these days

Citation needed.

>>17813718
>>17813708
>Germany ONLY killed 4 million people!
>They dindu nuffin!
Deniers have this very bizarre fixation on specifically the number "6 million" and "concentration camps" and "gassing" Like thats all they really know about the holocaust as their base of understanding. And they think that if they can chip away at any of those three things, then this completely vindicates them and proves that Hitler and the Nazis dindu nuffin.

Like if they can point out a case of Nazis starving out like 1,000 jews or Nazis shooting a village worth of jewish civilians, this proves them innocent because they didnt specifically gas them or put them in a concentration camp ect.

Its like they are too dumb to see the forest for the trees. Nazis are universally considered inhuman brutes for the mass murder of people, hyper focusing on the specific methods is stupid for this reason. Also because its not even true, its obvious that they killed people in gas chambers and in concentration camps.

>>17813726
No one except right wing grifters support Israel or Jews. Leftists turned against them, far right has always hated them.

>>17813720
>Were Jews the only people that were the only group in camps and suffered 6 million deaths, most of whom died in gas chambers? No.
No one claims otherwise. Strawman argument.
>I dont like jews so that means the holoaust never happened
This is retard logic, but at least you finally admitted it. Holocaust denial is not something rooted in people trying to understand history, its an emotional outburst. Its people who hate jews who go claim that the holocaust never happened and then use their massive confirmation bias to scrawl through neo-nazi slop to validate this.

>>17813729
No I said only the poles complained about the Holocaust and it was only a portion that accounts for 2 millions claimed murders

Where's the outcry for the 4 million other Jews? There's no military operation like operation reinhard to explain where they went. There's no claimed mass graves. There's no explanation for where the other 4 million went

>>17813731
>Leftists turned against them, far right has always hated them.
Leftist have always hated Israel. You're just a polzommie who didnt realize this. The Communist world always supported the Arab world against Israel. Israel and zionism were always targets of communism who viewed it as Nationalist, Racist, Imperialist, and Fascist.

>>17813735
>only the poles complained
not true. Also, you're literally proving my point by trying to hyperfocus on the 6 million figure. You are admitting that the Nazis killed at least 4 million people in a mass murder campaign of concentration camps and gas chambers.

>>17813742
Literally true the Holocaust didn't exist until 1943 when the poles published a pamphlet about Operation reinhard. They didn't think to make a pamphlet outlining the other 4 million Jews that apparently turned into gas and floated away

>>17813744
You reckon the holocaust is based on what a Pole wrote in a pamphlet?

>>17813745
You didn't know that all claims of the Holocaust eventually come back to the polish pamphlet in 1943?

>>17813744
>only the poles ever wrote about it!
Once again, this is factually not true.

Also, The Wannsee Conference happened in Winter 1942. This was the start of the concentration camp system being used so of course before that, it wasnt a factor the allied powers would be aware of. Again, Holocaust victims were killed through firing squads, starvation/disease/neglect in ghettos, AND in gas chambers.

If you admit that Nazis killed 4 million people, why are you acting like its impossible for them to have killed 6 million?

>>17813747
>All claims of the holocaust come from a single polish pamphet
fake news. Reminder that this is a goalpost move too because deniers all used to claim that the holocaust was created by the soviets after the end of the war lol.

>>17813749
There's no other third party that ever commented on the Holocaust during the entire war besides the poles and it was only in reference to operation reinhard

So again, where's the outcry about the other 4 million Jews not killed in operation reinhard? Almost like they didn't happen

>>17813752
I literally just posted sources other than the Poles and other than the initial pamphlet commenting on the Holocaust. You are being stupid because you know youre wrong.

>>17813753
No you didn't because they dont exist. There's no explanation from the poles where the other 4 million Jews went

>>17813752
>There's no other third party that ever commented on the Holocaust during the entire war besides the poles

Is this the new stormfaggots retarded talking point now they've been conclusively BTFO on all other fronts "OK OK it happened but only in Poland to Poles!!!"

>>17813755
Post something instead of screeching

>>17813754
Why would Poles know about what happened to the Jews elsewhere in Europe? Where did those Jews go?

>>17813756
>the Holocaust happened confirmed

>>17813760
So there's 4 million jews that disappeared that nobody even cared to acknowledge the entire war and there's not a single shred of evidence they ever possibly existed

>>17813765
>Jews never existed at all
A bond new Stormfaggot talking point emerges.

>>17813754
whats in the image of this post here?
>>17813749

>>17813755
I know, its hilarious. These faggots used to spam inforgraph after infograph in these threads and now they are forced to admit it all happened.
>o-okay, but the Nazis only executed 4 million people because ugh, Im only aware of one polish publication on it!
lol

>>17813769
>there's not a single shred of evidence 4 million jews claimed during the holocaust to have died existed
>jews didn't exist?
average holocaust truther

>>17813770
>The germans say they did it
No they didn't, there's not a single shred of evidence that 4 million of the 6 million jews that are claimed to have been murdered existed, least of all germans admitting to it

>>17813765
>and there's not a single shred of evidence they ever possibly existed
right because neither Romania, nor Hungary, nor France, nor the Netherlands, nor the USSR had ever conducted a census to know how many people their states were getting taxes from
Seriously, is there any difference between /pol/yps and flat earthers?

>>17813777
Nobody cared to even talk about 4 million jews being mass murdered the entire war? we just think it happened?

>>17813776
whats in the image posted here?
>>17813749

What do deniers think happened to those Jews? Cause the Allies didn't find 6 million Jews in those camps when the war ended

>6 million died in camps
deniers are now denying things that isn't even claimed by official holocaust history

>>17813788
>not a single shred of evidence 4 million jews died or existed
>well what happened to them
what if they didn't exist

>>17813772
>Jews don't exist
Average stormfaggot

>>17813797
>6 million jews died
>source?
>don't have one
>so it's possible it didn't happen
>no
Halocaust

>>17813782
>There wasn't a pamphlet about it so it didn't happen

>>17813575
are you against revisionism?

>>17813801
Again it's really damning that the holocaust didn't exist until 1943 and only the poles talked about it. Why didn't the poles talk about the 4 million other jews that somehow went missing in their country?

>>17813805
>4 million other jews that somehow went missing in their country
Lolwut

>>17813398
Funnily enough most US Jews don't care about or actively dislike israel, because the ones who are obsessed with it, suprise suprise, move to israel. It's mostly an evangelical thing.

>>17813800
>Jews don't exist confirmed
Phew!

>>17813806
The poles printed the only known official document outlining the holocaust and it was only for operation reinhard.

So we have an event with german military carrying out the event with a claimed death toll of 2 million.

Where's the other two german military operations to kill the other 4 million jews?

>>17813788
They are unironically claiming that jews never even existed now lol

>>17813810
>The poles printed the only known official document outlining the holocaust and it was only for operation reinhard.
So you DO think the holocaust centers around one pamphlet? Are you a retard?

>>17813812
Yes the holocaust revolves around the polish pamphlet calcimine 2 million deaths for the holocaust that even the british during the war threw in the pole's face and called garbage propaganda

>>17813819
*claiming 2 million

>>17813819
>Yes the holocaust revolves around the polish pamphlet
Remember when this used to be an actual history board? Remember? What a shame. What a loss.

>>17813821
>he doesn't know the holocaust didn't exist in the west until 1943 and the only people to inform the entire west about the holocaust was the poles and their propaganda pamphlet
where's the other 4 million jews?

>>17813810

>>17813826
>Things only happen when someone writes a pamphlet about it

>>17813828
Okay where's the official german military inoperative to kill 4 million jews

>In 1942, Schulte learned about the Final Solution concept, and in July 1942 he told Isidor Koppelman who relayed the information to Gerhart M. Riegner, the Swiss representative of World Jewish Congress. In August 1942, the Riegner Telegram notified the Allies, but they largely ignored the information which stated the estimated number of 3.5 to 4 million Jews, and the planned use of hydrogen cyanide.

>>17813831
operation*

>>17813789
That's a staple of Holocaust denial anon. They never know what they're denying.

>>17813831
There wasn't one
>aha they didn't literally order Operation Gas jews so it didn't happen

January 20, 1942

SS Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich, acting on behalf of the Reich Security Main Office, oversees a meeting with officials from the SS, the SA, the National Socialist party, and members of the German government. The meeting is held in the Berlin suburb of Wannsee.

Over the course of 90 min. this meeting goes over what they refer to as “the final solution to the Jewish question.” Among other things, they are presented with a census of all Jews in Europe and are instructed on plans to gather up all of these Jews, move them into ghettos used as holding stations, and from there shipped to various camps across Eastern Europe.

The meeting also lays out the specific criteria of who will be considered a Jew.

Here is the full transcript of the meeting minutes, which were transcribed by Adolf Eichmann, acting as Heydrichs number 2 during the meeting. It is 10 pages long.
https://holocaust.umd.umich.edu/news/uploads/WanseeProtocols.pdf

>>17813829
>brits called death tolls claimed by poles during operation reinhard ridiculous and claims of murder were unfounded and told them to stick it up their ass
>this propaganda is the main source for the holocaust

>>17813840
>what about the Haavra Agreement? Or the Madagascar plan?
As the meeting laid out, the Reich had two objectives concerning Jews in Germany
>a) the expulsion of the Jews from every sphere of life of the German people,
>b) the expulsion of the Jews from the living space of the German people.
They sought emigration of Jews as a legal way to rid themselves of them, but this proved to be a logistical nightmare, especially since the Jews were expected to foot the bill entirely on their own. Also, host nations for Jewish migrants faced issues with being able to take them in. The documents show that concerning the over half a million Jews in Germany proper, the emigration solution was officially cancelled with the outbreak of the war in Europe in favor of the plan laid out in Wannsee

pic related is Jewish emigration from Germany before the war. Notice how most would move to areas that would later be taken by Germany during the war, making their movement to escape Nazi rule moot.

>>17813841
>the main source for the holocaust

>>17813843
A common excuse you often see deniers make is that the 6 million figure of the Holocaust is impossible since there were not that many Jews in Europe at the time.

But the Wannsee Conference included a census of all the Jews in Europe, which was broken down by country. According to official Reich documents, they estimated that there were 11 million Jews in Europe as of 1942. Also, they note that the total number is probably higher since in foreign countries, Jews are only calculated by those who practice the religion. Since they do not specifically categorize them by race, as the Reich does, they lay out procedure on how to do this in other countries to get a more accurate number.

It also clearly states what is to be done with the Jews of Europe under Germany authority
>Under proper guidance, in the course of the final solution the Jews are to be allocated for appropriate labor in the East. Able-bodied Jews, separated according to sex, will be taken in large work columns to these areas for work on roads, in the course of which action doubtless a large portion will be eliminated by natural causes.
>The possible final remnant will, since it will undoubtedly consist of the most resistant portion, have to be treated accordingly, because it is the product of natural selection and would, if released, act as a the seed of a new Jewish revival (see the experience of history.)

>In the course of the practical execution of the final solution, Europe will be combed through from west to east. Germany proper, including the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, will have to be handled first due to the housing problem and additional social and political necessities.

>The evacuated Jews will first be sent, group by group, to so-called transit ghettos, from which they will be transported to the East.
From page 6
https://holocaust.umd.umich.edu/news/uploads/WanseeProtocols.pdf

>>17813844
Yes the main source for the holocaust is a pamphlet the poles printed about operation Reinhard in 1943 that was tossed in the garbage for being propaganda

>>17813848
>main source
Its A source, not the main one. The main source is probably when the allies actually found the camps and thousands of corpses inside of them. Pic relatde, its when British forces liberation Bergen-Belsen.
>tossed out for being progpanda
You're just making shit up lol

>>17813848
Just checking anon, what do you think is "the main source" for WW2 as a whole?

>>17813851
It's the original source on the holocaust and documents the only known gemran military operation that coincides with claimed mass murder

and it was thrown in the garbage for being baseless propaganda

>>17813856
You know what the brits called it? Atrocity propaganda, and you know why they didn't use it? Because they had their hands full trying to convince people hitter was going to blow up their city

>>17813854
Note how this has been ignored...

>>17813889
Of course I'm ignoring the unhinged weirdo saying nonsense trying to derail me because he can't argue facts

>>17813890
What's "the main source" for WW2 as a whole anon?

>>17813888
At that time the British had decrypted german communications and was intercepting reports of SS einsatzgruppen mass murdering jews

>>17813856
multiple other documentation from other sources, including the Germans themselves, have been posted in this thread. You're completely unserious.

Again, the original denier claim was that the holocaust was made up by the soviets after the end of the war and this retarded point has been BTFO so much that you are now forced to admit it was wrong and hang on this idea that the poles made it up. And this point was also quickly BTFO.

Again, British, American, and Soviet troops all found these camps. They interviewed inmates, the guards, the documented everything and specifically took pictures to prove to the world and future generations of the sort of ghoulish shit the nazis were doing.

>>17813891
Proof for the holocaust
>Operation Reinhard
Source for operation Reinhard
>supported by documented german operations
Source for operation reinhard being genocide
>polish government in exile printed pamphlet 1943
How did the west respond to the revelation of the holocaust?
>they called it weak atrocity propaganda and binned it

Where's the other 4 million jews that died outside of operation reinhard?

>>17813895
>I POSTED PROOF I POSTED PROOF
no you didn't lol, you posted literal hearsay

>>17813338
Doesn't help that almost all holocaust victims are dead so now they're dragging out the children and grandchildren as though I'm expected to specifically sympathize with an upper middle class woman on the grounds that her grandparents suffered 80 years ago.

>>17813903
You refusing to acknowledge that you saw the evidence that proved your point wrong is not at argument. Its funny because you have a pathological obsession with jews, nazis, the holocaust, ect but you know literally nothing about any of it.

I think you're just one of those weird little kids who loved the power fantasy aspect of Nazi march videos and fell into deep with that shit. Interacting with you, its pretty clear youre horribly deficient in social skills

>>17813913
Hearsay isn't evidence

>>17813897
Why can't you tell me what "the main source" for WW2 is anon?

>>17813462
Rwanda is also fall smaller than most of Europe.

>>17813918
Why is there not a single source in existence for what happened to 4 million jews during the holocaust

>>17813917
>Eyewitness accounts isn't evidence
>A pamphlet (based on eyewitness accounts) is evidence

>>17813927
>Eyewitness accounts
like being shipped to camps and working the entire war for the nazis and surviving?

>>17813926
Why is there not a single source for the "largest bloodiest war in history"?

>>17813332 (OP)
>he thinks the 6m figure is just about concentration camps

>>17813931
Why is there not a single source in existence for what happened to 4 million jews during the holocaust

>>17813935
Why is there not a single source in existence for what happened to 80 million people in the war

>>17813937
Why is there not a single source in existence for what happened to 4 million jews during the holocaust

>its hearsay bro
>but you can't believe jews
>you can't believe anybody who admitted to it because they were tortured
>you can't believe polish resistance
>you can't believe historians
>you can't believe german intercepts because they don't literally say "we just gassed x amount of jews"
>you can't believe people who witnessed jews getting shot and beating to death all over occupied territories
>you can't believe mass graves unless you dig up the entire grave
>you can't believe any population census
>you can't believe David Irving

>>17813930
Yes why not?

>>17813940
Pogroms aren't the holocaust and hearsay isn't evidence

>>17813891
It's another Polish pamphlet

>>17813944
Nothing happened anywhere ever.

>>17813950
No just the holocaust

>>17813944
Progroms are in fact part of the holocaust

>>17813944
Prove that you aren't a sperm licking sodomite to me.

>>17813952
Nope fuck out of here retard, pogroms were native eastern europeans murdering communist jews that acted as secret police for the soviets

>>17813956
the 100s of thousands of jews killed in progroms during WW2 are counting within the 6 million
It doesn't matter what you think they were. They are counted in the 6 million.
That's part of how they get to 6 million
You're saying the 6 million number is made up

>>17813959
Hearsay isn't evidence

>>17813951
Nope. Nothing happened anywhere ever. All is as it was and will be forever. Think about it. Who profits from writing books about """"history"""" and publishing them? Who is very creative and known for their domination of media?

You really think some Pioneers set off in winter and got trapped and cannibalised each other? That's just the sort of sick fucked up thing someone like Eli Roth would think of and sell to the masses.

>posts picture of typhus bodies at bergen belsen
>this isn't the holocaust
>"this is the holocaust"
>posts pictures of balts clubbing communist jews to death
>this isn't the holocaust
>"this is the holocaust"
>Lies and tries to say hundreds of thousands of jews were murdered in pogroms
this is the average holocaust thread

>>17813960
progroms are not known from hearsay
people saw it

>>17813973
You're lying and saying it was part of the holocaust, so would you rather be a disingenuous faggot that uses hearsay as evidence, or just a liar? Fitting when you're defending a lie

>>17813970
>posts pictures of balts clubbing communist jews to death
well that's part of the 6 million number that you deny
So you agree that those jews was actually killed?

>>17813975
Nazis built a camp to leave 1000 jews dead in them as part of their master plan to murder all jews?

>>17813974
>You're lying and saying it was part of the holocaust
I said it's counted as part of the holocaust
that's a fact.

>>17813970
>Jews were killed, but the killers had a really good reason!
We did it. We finally got stormfaggots to admit the holocaust happened.

>>17813976
i was referring to the "clubbing of jews"
that's part of the holocaust yes

>They were all communists
>how do you know
>that's what i heard
hmm

>>17813983
4 millino jews are unaccounted for in the holocaust, I'm sure you think it's cute you can post a picture of some random dead guy and say they're part of the 6 million dead jews when it's a completely made up figure

>>17813989
>the holocaust is now every bit of violence the jews ever experienced even outside of the hands of the germans
yeah okay chaim

>>17813966
Once again, this goes ignored. Scared to finally admit the truth?

>>17814002
>the holocaust ISN'T Jews being murdered at the hands of the Nazis and their collaborators
The fucking state.

It is, once again, a "stormfaggot obsesses over the holocaust every waking hour but doesn't have even the first clue as to what the standard mainstream narrative of it is" thread. As usual.

>>17814006
So 4 million jews can't be accounted for even using the holocaust's own sources but you're going to claim a lithuanian killing a soviet jew is the definitive proof of a german perpetrated holocaust?

Talk about mentally ill

>>17814010
How do you know a Lithuanian killed a Soviet jew?

>>17814002
Yes that's literally what the holocaust is
that's were the 6 million come from you dunce
it's not my opinion
>>17813999
2 million are said to have been killed outside of camps in mass shootings and progroms
and yes that's part of the 6 million figure
Have you even read one single book about the holocaust?

>>17814017
>The Holocaust is just random pictures I post, so what if there's no source for the Holocaust
God damn you're like 2 IQ

>>17814024
How do you know a Lithuanian killed a Soviet Jew anon?

>>17814026
You show more critical thinking trying to deny what I say than on the holobunga

>>17814024
pictures of progroms are some of the sources for progroms yes

>>17814031
How do you know a Lithuania killed a Soviet Jew anon, tell us?

>>17814032
Okay progroms not carried out by Germans aren't evidence for the German perpetrated Holocaust you mentally ill retard

>>17814036
>OK, pogroms WERE carried out in Nazi occupied Europe, but it wasn't the Nazis themselves doing it
Utterly desperate flailing now.

>>17814036
It's part of the 6 million number that you deny
you've claimed itt that "4 million jews are unaccounted for".
So i'm describing to you part of how they are accounted for.
Because progroms and mass shootings are counted as part of the holocaust. And they are counted whether it was germans or lithuanians or ukranians etc doing the actual killings.
And that's not my opinion.

>>17814040
Pogroms have hundreds of years of history in eastern Europe but you know that because you're a lying nigger

Did the Germans do all those too?

>>17814044
They declare people not murdered by Nazis to actually be murdered by Nazis?

>>17814045
>he admits that Pograms did indeed happen

>>17814045
Those aren't counted as part of the holocaust

>>17814047
>they weren't murdered by Nazis!
>they were just murdered by people armed, equipped, transported and under the orders of the Nazis!!!
Truly, truly desperate

>>17814050
They declare people not murdered by Nazis to actually be murdered by Nazis? Huh I don't believe you, that sounds retarded like something you just made up like you've been doing for hours now

>>17814054
>something made up
You mean like the supposed """largest war in history"""" that has absolutely no main source it even happened? No source. No bomes. No evidence. Just hearsay.

>>17814047
Yes and you would know if you did the minimal amount of research
here's another example of that:
>Treblinka was managed by 20 to 25 SS overseers (Germans) and 80 to 120 Hiwi guards of various Soviet ethnicities, including Russian and Ukrainian Red army prisoners of war. They were assisted by a cadre of Jewish inmates known as kapos, who were prisoner functionaries. Ivan is a common Ukrainian,[3] Russian, and Belarusian given name. Volksdeutsche were known to have Slavic given names.[4] An example would be Ivan Klatt, Ukrainian guard leader or a Volksdeutscher who served in the Sobibor extermination camp.[5] According to Chil Rajchman six men called Ivan worked at Treblinka
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_the_Terrible_(Treblinka_guard)

>>17814058
So not only is the Holocaust completely made up, anybody can make up events not even perpetrated by Germans and say it's part of the Holocaust?

>Hitler was a wholesome chungus and would never kill Jews

>>17814060
The entire war is made up. Don't you get it?

>>17814054
What part sounds made up?
That non german participated?
Or that victims killed by non germans are counted in the holocoast?
Keep in mind i didn't decide who is counted in the holocaust or not. I had nothing to do with that.
I'm just telling you it's counted as part of the 6 million

>>17814065
Well of course the Holocaust is made up, you were trying to convince me that people murdered but not by the Germans is also somehow the German's direct doing

>>17814060
yes let's say they completely made up the Pogrom that you claimed was done by Lithuanians.
Then yes that would be counted as part of the holocaust

>>17814067
>Germans give people guns and tell them to shoot Jews with them
>this has nothing to do with the Germans

>>17814068
So people take real events not carried out by Germans and try to claim it's proof of the Holocaust?

Why not just prove the actual Holocaust

>>17814071
>real events
He admit it.

>>17814074
Yes progroms were a thing in eastern Europe for hundreds of years, were Germans guilty of those too? Also still not the Holocaust

>>17814075
>he continue to admit it

>>17814071
Person A is accused of stealing 6 million dollars. 4 million is in 10 dollar bills 2 million is in 5 dollar bills
now you ask where are the 6 million 10 dollar bills
then we tell you actually some of that was 5 dollar bills and we show you evidence of some of those 5 dollar bills that was stolen
then you say "wait they can count 5 dollar bills???"
and then you drool

>>17814081
So where did 4 million Jews go that the Holocaust doesn't account for? Auschwitz?

>>17814083
>the holocaust doesn't account for

>>17814085
Yes the Holocaust only explains where 2 million jews went. Very poorly and ridiculously, but they explain it nonetheless
It doesn't even talk about where 4 million others went

>>17814088
>it doesn't even talk about where 4 million others went

>>17814090
Correct.

>>17814092
See >>17814009

>>17814094
Okay so you concede that you posted pictures claiming proof of the Holocaust when it's not even Germans in the picture and then admitted that Germans are guilty of anything that happened to Jews at all in Europe and every slight cough was a Nazi genocidal program

>>17814097
>OK it happened but it was wasn't Germans who did it!!!

>>17814099
No I pretty explicitly said the Holocaust was completely made up. It's only tankies that try to claim Soviet Jews dying was the Holocaust

Stormfaggots are now claiming that it's all other Europeans who were antisemitic murderers, while Germans dindu nothing. What a time to be alive.

>>17813443
That's the point

>>17814102
Again it's only actual communists that try to claim Soviet Jews dying was the real Holocaust

>>17814100
How do you know Soviet Jews died?

>>17814097
>So where did 4 million Jews go that the Holocaust doesn't account for?
some of them are accounted for through progroms and mass shootings which was in some cases carried out by non germans

>>17814107
So we don't know where 4 million Jews went

>>17814100
>It's only tankies that try to claim Soviet Jews dying was the Holocaust
No it's actually every mainstream historian including the ones that claim 5-6 million died
they actually count that
All the jewish organizations who claim 6 million count that
you would know if you did any research

>>17814111
No mainstream historian tries to claim the Holocaust was actually pro-soviet Jews to the east of Poland. Only communists try to say this, which you've been spamming for hours

>>17814110
what 4 million?

>>17814117
The 4 million Jews said to have been killed without so much as a single German document existing about it

Stormfaggots have now admitted the holocaust happened. This is a great day. Am yisrael chai.

>>17814115
Can you name a mainstream holocaust historian that doesn't count mass shootings and progroms as part of the holocaust?

>>17814122
Can you name anyone but a communist that tries to claim Soviet aligned Jews dying was the real Holocaust?

>>17814123
See >>17814009

>>17814125
>Yes I am a communist caught in multiple lies claiming the real Holocaust was the murder of Soviet aligned Jews that weren't even killed by Germans
Oh so it's only communists that believe in the Holocaust

>>17814130
Who are you quoting anon?

>>17814133
Apparently a communist

>>17814120
Like i told you earlier
The British was intercepting SS reports of mass shootings. So that's not correct
Here's a report from Einsatzgruppe A where they executed 130000 jews
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A4ger_Report
This is in Lithuania which had a large jewish population before WW2 and had almost non after WW2
That's one example of how it is documented

>>17814137
Again nobody tries to claim the murder of Soviet aligned Jews was the real Holocaust but communists

You are not mainstream you're a loser in a basement

>>17814123
how do you know they were Soviet aligned Jews?

>>17814140
This is the part where I ask you what the last book you read on the holocaust was, you have a full blown spastic meltdown, and then shit all over the thread until it hits the bump limit.

>>17813895
Look at those dead bodies, they starved to death, when allied forces bombed the shit out of railroads and highways & bridges the means of moving food around was crippled so who starved first? The prisoners and criminals starved first because food was scarce

>>17814142
I mostly read primary documents and not the musings of some sickly like about how the real Holocaust was the murder of Soviet aligned Jews in Lithuania by Lithuanians

>>17814145
*sickly kike

>>17814145
Name the last primary source you read anon.

>>17814140
You're asking how the 6 million jews killed are accounted for?
I think you were specifically asking about jews not killed in Operation Reinhard camps
I'm telling you that partly they are accounted for in mass shootings and progroms
now if you think those jews deserved it then that's your opinion.
But that's still how they are accounted for in the 6 million number.
Yes the jews you think were communists are counted. So i guess now you at least partly know how historians reach 6 million other than that polish pamphlet
So i guess you learned something today.

>>17814150
That one where only 1 million people were sent to the reinhard camps instead of the two million they claim

>>17813332 (OP)
>6 camps
I CAN'T READ

>>17814155
Name the primary source anon.

>>17814155
>primary sources DO say that millions of people were murdered in Aktion Reinhard camps
Fascinating.

>>17814159
You should know what I'm talking about your ilk post it all the time as "proof". The only thing it's proof of is the only thing about the Holocaust with any evidence to have a really occured is overstated by 100% at the least

Leaving only 1.2 million people even accountable for the Holocaust. Only half of which were Jews.

>>17814165
Why can't you name the primary source you claim to have just read?

>>17814171
Because it's not important enough for me to remember it's name

>>17814174
Because you're a lying little cunt and the last and only thing you read about the holocaust was a /pol/tranny schizographic. You may now seethe.

>>17814176
Nice tantrum tankie

Name 1 (one) credible historian who claims all 6 million of them were only ever killed in those camps.

>>17814197
How can historians even write about the holocaust when 4 million jew deaths have no source?

>>17814178
>no denial
>no name of the source

>>17814200
The source of the document that proves the main narrative about operation reinhard is lied about by jews? specifically the overstating of the amount of laborers sent to the camps?

>>17814198
You could find that out by reading their books

>>17814203
>and here we have the 4 million jews that disappeared with no source, uh they probably got masturbated to death or something
>okay next slide

>>17814206
>/pol/memes
Why can't they resist outing themselves?

>>17814207
More like holocaust meme, remember when the jews said the nazis were using nuclear death rays to turn jews into ash?

>>17814206
books doesn't come in slides

>>17814210
Oh right
>the jews were le masturbated to death, the end

>>17814208
what book did you read that in?

the real redpill is was much smaller in number only a minority were jews the rest were poles and russians that were used as forced labour in factories till they died of starvation also there was a typhus epidemic during this war they also chalked up the numbers so israel could get backing from the international community to have a homeland

>>17814212
nuremburg trial transcripts about evidence submitted to the court as proof of nazi atrocities by the soviets

>>17814211
you read that?

>>17813332 (OP)
The jews are pathological liars. They lie or parrot another jew's lie.

>>17814218
Have you read a book that explains where the 4 million jews went that weren't part of operation reinhard?

inb4
>ovens in auschwitz

>>17814214
you've read that in a transcript?

>>17814225
Yes, most of the memes about holocaust claims are true and they were claimed to have happened, that's why they're memes

kind of.... discredits them doesnt it

>>17814222
have i read a book that doesn't claim jews was killed in auschwitz? is that what you're asking me?

>>17814236
No I mean like is the only explanation for 4 million jews missing from the roster "just shove them in the ovens"?

Seems pretty flimsy of a narrative

>>17814229
Why don't you link that transcript then?

>>17814240
>No I mean like is the only explanation for 4 million jews missing from the roster "just shove them in the ovens"?
I've told you that 2 million of them are said to have been killed outside of camps in mass shootings and progroms. And there's plenty of documentation of that
2 millions outside of camps
4 million in camps (including the ones killed in OR)

>>17814241
Just to piss you off I will link a funny transcript fro the nuremburg trials but not the specific one you're asking for

>>17814253
>oops i couldn't find it
No mainstream historian claims the lampshade stuff is true. So idk why it would piss me off.
I don't believe it to be true either

>>17814259
That's weird because nazis were put to death using lampshades as a justification

>>17814252
Okay so where did the other 2 million jews go

>>17814263
this is in the Buchenwald trials
they were out to death for a lot more than lampshades

>>17814279
it's in the nuremburg trials too. They realized towards the end of the nuremburg trials that Goering had run circles around them and nobody wanted to watch the trials anymore so they had the soviet wheel out their table of shrunken heads, foreskins and lampshades

>>17814271
which ones?

>>17814263
Which Nazis were put to death because of lampshades?

>>17814284
>2 million jews went to operation reinhard
>2 million communist jews were shot
>2 million more were killed in camps but I don't know where
so... where?

>>17814140
Hmm it’s possible you’re genuinely retarded. I spent a couple years diagnosing retards for a professional retard diagnosis clinic and whatever you have appears incurable. I will lead you back down the right path though. The 1930s German Reich, before it began expanding, had a very low Jewish population. Where were the Jews if not in the Reich? They were mostly in Poland and Ukraine, historic lands of Jewish settlement in Europe dating back hundreds of years. As you will recall, around half of Poland became Soviet territory during that country’s partition under Molotov-Ribbentrop. Ukraine, meanwhile, was under Soviet rule as well, in case you weren’t aware. So again, to recap because you’re retarded, the two largest Jewish populations in Europe were in a half-Soviet and a fully Soviet country. So for you to say “mainstream historians all know that Soviet Jews don’t count!” is for you to essentially argue that mainstream historians all agree that the Holocaust as it is currently understood did not happen. Which may be what you believe. But it’s important for you to understand that everyone who actually studies this is not on your side. In closing, you are retarded.

>>17814289
in other camps, mainly auschwitz
but also fx 50k is said to have been killed in Buchenwald
i guess you can discount that because of muh lampshades though
and if you don't believe that people were gassed at Auschwitz then i guess you're down to just 4 million or so dying in the holocaust.
We can agree to disagree whether it was 4 million or 6 million. actually some historians think it was 5 or 5.5. so 4 isn't that far off

>>17814297
nobody, not even maps of the holocaust, say even a mentionable amount of jews were murdered to the east of poland

commies are writing straight fanfiction

>>17814300
>I'm willi9ng to concede that only 4 million died in the holocaust because I only have proof for 4
actually you only have proof of 2 because you asspulled 2 million jews being shot

>>17814289
>da joos were financiers who controlled the purse strings of the world
>da joos were communists
Erm…not to be a logic Nazi but something isn’t adding up here.
But yeah to address your main point, you are retarded. 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, split between pure extermination camps, work camps with an exterminatory component (you work till you die without adequate food and maybe maybe survive the war OR you are killed when you get there), and shooting actions mostly carried out by Einzatgruppen units (occasionally with Wehrmacht participation) and local collaborators during the invasion of the Soviet Union. As other anons have alluded to, there are few historical events as well-documented as the Holocaust. Why is the Holocaust questioned? Why must every body be accounted for? Because you guys are contrarians, or because you hate Jews, or both. So for example, you will watch a video of some old lady talking about how her entire family was shot by an SS unit and she was the only one who got away, and in fact maybe you will watch hundreds of these videos, and you will say “okay that doesn’t prove 6 million.” But likely when you see the same thing for the rape of nanking you have no problem accepting the mainstream narrative (which is in that case also the truth), because you’re only hung up on every little thing because you’re a contrarian or because you hate Jews or both. Also, in closing, you’re retarded.

>>17814303
Lol. Lmao even.

>>17814317
>6 gorillion jews were killed
Sorry you guys already conceded that at least 2 million jew deaths are made up

>>17814304
i didn't concede anything other than you're a moron
but i would say for a denialist to arrive at 2-4 million is a big step

>>17814327
You thought you had me in a gotcha but accidentally admitted that at least 2 million deaths are fabricated according to historians

so half of the missing deaths that have zero source were "just made up" according to holocaust historians

>>17814303
IN Poland and IN Ukraine, you retard. To throw out just one example, the babin yar massacre, the most famous shooting action of the Holocaust, was carried out in Kyiv. Against “Soviet Jews.” The “Soviet Jews” of Kyiv were led in one gigantic line out of the city to a ravine where they were murdered by SS shooters and either fell or were then pushed into the pile of bodies. And your argument, if I may remind you because you’re retarded, was that this does not count as the Holocaust, and in fact was that everyone AGREES this doesn’t count as the Holocaust.

>>17813426
It's not about if 6 million people can be killed in 6 years,you could do it in 2 days if you really wanted. It's about the lack of remains and the implication that they were all burned to ashes,which is not possible with the infrastructure the death camps had. The story doesn't make sense mathematically.

>>17814303
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/ukraine-holocaust

>>17814341
except the babi yar massacre was against soviet aligned jews and was easily exaggerated by 10 times the actual death count

so not only was it not against innocent jews and not part of the holocaust, it's a huge lie how many people died

sound familiar

>>17814341
Again fanfiction manufactured by jewish holllwood producers and judeo bolshevists like the 40 hamas beheaded babies

Jews are experts in manufacturing fairytales while actually enacting a genocide.

It makes sense. They use those fairytales to disguise themselves and profit

>>17814341
>it didn't happen
>but they were soviet jews so it doesn't count
lel it's amazing

Reminder that jews make up histories about palestinian 10 year old kids being terrorists to bomb hospitals and schools

The jewish strategy is striking you as it cries in pain
It is a race of serial liars with zero credibility.

If they lied about Gaza why wont thy lie about a 80 years old cashcow?

>>17814347
>communist jews line civilian buildings with explosives and detonate them when the nazis arrive
>for weeks at random buildings explode in kiev killing anyone unfortunate enough to be near including civilians
>~3000 jews are lead into a field and executed for this
>communists: 30,000 JEWS MASSACRED FOR BEING JEWISH OY VEY
yeah

>>17814214
>soviets
Jewish communists are not a reliable souruce.

>>17814345
>not part of the holocaust
but it's counted as part of the holocaust
which makes it relevant when you ask
>how is the 6 million accounted for

>>17814345
lol this is just wartime German propaganda you’re parroting. The Nazis understood that they needed local slavs to show them where the Jews were, so they went with this line of “Jewish Bolshevism” to convince your average Lithuanian that the Jews were the ones who sent his papa to Siberia. Now, this only works if you’re retarded and your only source of information is Nazi propaganda, but it’s a good story. Seems good enough for you anyway, and given that you’re probably not ethnically German it’s still serving its original purpose (get useful subhumans to help us catch the Jews) some 80 years later. Congratulations to Goebbels. The Jews at babin yar were collected because they were Jews and marched out of the city to be killed. Are you under the impression that these women and children (and I have read Ukrainian auxiliary policemen describing shooting women and children, “Life and Death in the Third Reich” if you’d like a source) were high-ranking Soviet functionaries?

>>17814365
Source? show me where they include the babi yar in the holocaust figures, preferably before 1990 or 1950

>>17814366
Germans didn't have to do any convincing for the locals to murder soviet jewish police which dissappeared their friends for wrongthink

>>17814375
>Nazi death squad records list Commisars separately from Jews
>records of Jews kill include numbers of children

What did they mean by this?

Thoughts on the bavarian soviet republic heads Eugene levine and Ernst Toller?
Both were jewish revolutionaries that same as rosa luxembourg attempted a communist revolution in germany!

>>17814378
>communists still can't fathom I don't care when communists die

>>17814357
So again, you RETARD. This is the main thrust of German propaganda during the war, and it is as wrong now as it was then. Kiev was mined by red army units. Red army units. There is literally no disagreement on this point. And in response the Germans and their local collaborators gathered up all the Jews of the city, marched them to a ravine, and shot them. Because look hurr durr they blew up the city. Retard

>>17814378
>the records i made up say things
Israel also says they are not killing children lol
Jews lie, news at 4

>>17814347
Yeah lol. Fuck em

>>17814382
Right kiev was mined by the soviets (and probably helped by the jews), in full view of all the jews that lived there, who then let the germs occupy the city and then be blown up by the mines including other civilians

but trust me the jews were completely innocent

>>17814380
Litterally not talking about dead Communists anon.

>SAAAAAAR is the german propaganda

Even today the majority of jews are overwhelmingly progressive and advocating for opening the societies of goyim lol

>>17814387
yes you are, nobody cares about dead communist jews, more should have died

>>17814386
How did the gentiles living there not notice the city being rigged to explode?

>>17814393
Because the mines were placed in the jewish quarter, most major cities during the war were abandoned by the natives and their homes were occupied by transient jews. This is where the bombs were at

>>17814386
lol you are genuinely retarded. Are you under the impression that only Jews lived in Kiev? Why don’t we pick another random ethnic group in the city (poles) and blame the polish population of Kiev for being present while the red army mined the city and not, I guess, demining it? You fuckin retard. Do you want the Jewish population of Kiev to go reveal themselves to the oncoming German army, who have been saying since 1935 that they hate fuckin Jews, and say hey guys watch out for the red army mines that we of course know all the locations to and everything? You are a Nazi sympathizer and I wish I could put you in 1945 in the path of a red army column moving a little too fast to take prisoners.

>>17814401
>Are you under the impression that only Jews lived in Kiev?
>>17814397

>>17814369
These shootings including Babi yar has always been counted but the count has gone up over the years with more research. and the count for the camps has gone down.
But no one has ever not counted the massacres like babi yar.

>>17814404
source?

>>17814397
>Jews blew up their own homes in the Jewish quarter
Why were there gentiles being blown up in these Jewish buildings in the Jewish quarter if all the gentiles had fled the city?

>it was okay for the germans to kill the jews that they didn't kill because they were communists

>>17814411
*Jews blew up downtown kiev which they took over after it was abandoned by native ukranians and then were marched out into a field and executed for being communist terrorists

oh no I WILL lose sleep over this

Why were the jews always the communists or their collaborators?
Very weird innit?
Even today if you look at america you'll see jews like bernie sanders advocating for crypto-communism

>>17814416
So it wasn't the Jewish quarter? But you just said it was?

>>17814407
for what?

>>17814420
So communist jews died? haha good

>>17814416
>then were marched out into a field and executed for being communist terrorists
and that's counted as part of the 6 million

>>17814430
So communist terrorists were the only people the nazis were killing?

Wait I thought they were the bad guys

>>17814424
Was it in the Jewish quarter or wasn't it?

>>17814434
When a communist jew gets their brains blown out in a ukranian field do they go to hell or purgatory?

>>17814433
if you think they were right in killing 6 million "communist" jews then that's your opinion

>>17814444
Great I'm glad the holocaust was just the germans doing the world a favor and all the camps were just labor camps

>>17814414
Lol this is genuinely the argument yeah. The outer line of their defense is "they didn't" and then they retreat to the inner sanctum of "they did and it was exaggerated/justified"

>>17814452
>hasn't posted a single shred of evidence for the holocaust
>instead is trying to get people to care about communist jewish terrorists getting killed
not a good look tankie

>>17814440
Was it the Jewish quarter or not anon?

>>17814457
What happened to the 4 million jews that aren't accounted for by the holocaust narrative?

>>17814455
>trying to get people to care
they are counted in the 6 million whether you care about them or not
you see the holocaust figures are not based on whether you like them or not

>>17814462
communist jews getting ventilated for killing civilians with IEDs aren't the people that people associate with being victims of the holocaust

you might be a little bit biased being a communist yourself, I hope you die in an unfortunate accident

>>17814459
Was it the Jewish quarter?

>>17814467
Why were there civilians in the Jewish quarter if all the Jews were communist partisans and all the gentiles had left the city?

>>17814471
Nobody cares when communist murderers die tankie

>>17814455
lol I am in fact about as close to center as you can get and have absolutely 0 love for the far-left or the current Israeli govmt. Because it doesn’t take a tankie to believe in the holocaust. Show any kid the minutes of the Wannsee conference, the documentation of aktion reinhard, the photos of bodies stacked like cordwood in the camps. No one who doesn’t have a preexisting bias against the group victimized in these crimes is going to say “hmmm something doesn’t seem right here.” To everyone except you guys it seems like common sense, and I get that it’s thrilling and edgy to be on the outside of the mainstream, riding the lightning, uncovering the hidden truths. But this is a crime where the perpetrators announced their intentions beforehand, documented their actions during, and confessed to them afterwards at Nuremberg and the eichmann trial, and no one except you was left looking for the missing peace. And no, I’m not gonna show you photos of the Holocaust, because I don’t wanna see dead women and kids today. Look them up yourself. Will take 30 seconds, I promise. Oh, and one more thing…you’re retarded

>>17814467
>aren't the people that people associate with being victims of the holocaust
well guess what: they are counted in the 6 million
so when you ask
>What happened to the 4 million jews that aren't accounted for by the holocaust narrative?
they are actually part of the answer that you're asking for.
and they are counted whether you think they were communists who deserved it
(but for them to have derserved their deaths they do have to have died)

>>17814480
>The Holocaust was communist murderers that blew up civilians with IEDs getting executed
So the Holocaust was a good thing?

>>17814474
Why can't you explain how civilians ended up walking into the middle of the Jewish ghetto rigged with explosives if all the civilians fled the city?

>>17814483
see
>>17814444

>>17814483
What were civilians doing in the Jewish ghetto anon?

>>17814489
Why were Jewish communists wiring explosives in kiev?

>>17814494
So it was indeed the Jewish quarter?

>>17814507
So jewish communists were wiring explosives in kiev and blowing them up at random killing civilians? Did they get punished for this?

>>17814513
How could they be killing civilians if all the civilians fled and the explosives were all in the Jewish quarter?

>>17814518
Why would somebody support jewish communists that were terrorists and killed civilians unless they were a communist?

>>17814520
How did they kill civilians if the civilians had all fled?

Imagine being a communist and your entire argument boils down to screeching about nazism meanwhile you support communist murderers unironically

>>17814531
Imagine being a Nazi and telling so many lies in rapid fire that you lose track of them and say two contradictory things in 3 minutes.

Imagine thinking I'm a nazi because I know you're a communist

>>17814542
Note how there's not even an attempt at denying he's telling lies?

why would I even address your points when you're the same communist that's been here for a decade spamming nonsense and throwing tantrums and refusing to answer any questions about the holocaust

the same guy unironically defending communist terrorists killing civilians with IEDs in this thread. apparently the only people lthat care about the holocaust are communists lost causing

>>17814555
The civilians all fled, remember? Or was that a lie?

Hello, dumbass mentally ill communist
helloooooooo

>it's another holocaust denier getting ass-blasted thread

>it the same communist retard defending the holocaust because he thinks he's "bashing the fash"
>devolves into supporting communist civilian terrorist murders every time because he's actually 3 iq
hate to see it

>>17814597
>still can't decide if civilians were blown up by the Jews or if the Jews stole their houses when they fled

>I'm so smart I learned everything I could about the holocaust so I could spend hours a day apologizing for soviet terrorism in holocaust threads

>>17814647
>I learned everything I could about the holocaust
you should try that first before you argue about it

I'm the leading expert of the holocaust on 4chan, that's why you keep coming in these threads and screeching at me with your commie nonsense calling me a nazi

>>17814680
what books have you read that you recommend?

>>17814756
Nuremburg trial transcripts >>17814253

>>17814826
>holocaust research ended in 1945

>>17814925
yes all primary holocaust documents stopped existing with the last holocaust trials

>>17815145
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B6fle_telegram