Thread 17816122

What was the purpose of racial segregation in the US?

To prevent poor white rednecks from revolting by making them think they are aristocrats

>>17816122 (OP)
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>>17816130
This also applies to middle class whites and poor whites. Many middle class whites learned the hard way when they got replaced in the workplace by Indians after laughing at poor whites who complained about having to compete with Mexicans.

>>17816122 (OP)
Funnily enough, segregation was not as orchestrated as people are willing to believe. The U.S. was built on slavery. For most people, it's just the way things were. Why upset the apple cart?

Sure, politics has made a fortune off of exploiting these racial differences, but they had to have been there in the first place.

The truth is, racial segregation still exists, if not physically, then spiritually, and I don't think it can ever be something that's fully wiped away or healed. We are different, after all. Everyone can appeal to their own camp (democrats with "progressive" waffling and statues of fat black women, republicans with arrests and deportation) so the political machine will always get its cut. Always.

The right way forward would be for the people to recognize that the single biggest segregating factor is not skin color or country of origin, but money and economic class.

The fucked up thing is that the suburban boomer dad who's 2 months away from liver failure and hospital bill bankruptcy won't be mad at any of the systems in place that are created to fuck him over, bleed him dry and ruin him and his descendants and keep them as some sort of indebted feudal chattle forever tied to the megacorps that now effectively rule america. For every ill in his life, he's going to blame immigrants, poors and blacks, because he exists in a system of media that does nothing but perpetually mindrapes his conscious with falsehoods, exaggerations and red herrings to keep him meek towards his overlords.

>>17816122 (OP)
To prevent muttification from happening.

>>17816421
>The U.S. was built on slavery.
Holy shit shut the fuck up you retard
Read one book

>>17816435
He's right. The US used various forms of bonded and coerced labour before during and after slavery. Even when slavery was gone the state just conjured up another methods to capture American labour of any race.

Hygiene, niggers are nasty and unhygienic and you don't want some homeless vagrant washing their butthole out in the public water supply

>>17816435
Nigger, everything in history WAS built on slavery or war or some other form of exploitation. Everything. Every time you use your phone, eat a banana or drink chocolate milk, it's a product of slavery. Get used to it and carry on

>>17816457
>niggers are nasty and unhygienic
So like what large chunk of the South was?

>>17816469
you've never been round blacks in their natural habitat, they don't bathe, don't wash their clothes, don't brush their teeth, you don't want one of these people licking your bubbler in the park which they most certainly did because blacks to this day are confused and bewildered by public water fountains

>>17816130
You don't need to "convince me"
I just don't want proximity to my racial enemies.
Your post is cuckold coded

>>17816474
Lmao such a strange thing to fixate and project on

>>17816480
Is it? because that's precisely the reason the south gave for having two water fountains, so that blacks could still get water, but you had to worry less about them gumming on it because they're retarded

>>17816484
Not really, the whole "sepeate but equal" schpiel was about maintaining dominance by one party having strict control over access to things infrastructure, entertainment, institutions and basic services while trying to be "fair".

>>17816495
Except actual institutionalized segregation was pretty rare and public segregation like water fountains was done for sanitary reasons

>>17816496
>Except actual institutionalized segregation was pretty rare
It wasn't uncommon at all. Statea outright refused to commit to building equal facilities, in many cases they outright failed to build a seperate facility at all.

>public segregation like water fountains was done for sanitary reasons
That was the surface level reason. It was all about autistically maintaining the image in every step of the way. Like they can't share fountains but they can cook and grow your food AND serve it to you?

>>17816503
Oh so you're a socilist that thinks if a private business builds a movie theater the government should build a black theater

and this is somehow the end of the world

>>17816510
>Oh so you're a socilist
?

>that thinks if a private business builds a movie theater the government should build a black theater
It's public though. Those are public businesses that make use of public services and resources

>>17816515
no a private business is not a public amenity, stay in school kids

you COULD say that maybe the water fountains were a little worse quality than the white ones, but it's the same water, the entire argument against segregation is null because segregation wasn't actually that bad. You're talking about the south which fought a war against the north based on principles of individual rights, you think these people were monsters that were purposefully cruel to niggers? These evangelical christians? please. It's all socialist talking points

>>17816522
>no a private business is not a public amenity
Those businesses you spoke of a public businesses that made use of the government's services.

>the entire argument against segregation is null because segregation wasn't actually that bad
And you say that as a guy who wouldn't be targeted by it

>You're talking about the south which fought a war against the north based on principles of individual rights, you think these people were monsters that were purposefully cruel to niggers?
Lol nice shitpost.

>>17816539
Oh no I'm targeted with, drinking out of a different water fountain, I will base my entire identity off of this pathetic event

>>17816543
Which fountain would you drink out of exaxtly?

>>17816559
I wouldn't drink out of a public water fountain because they're nasty, which is the same reason they gave blacks their own fountain

>>17816561
Answer the question. Which fountain would you drink out of, the coloured or the white fountain?

>>17816565
Which one would you drink out of you anemic FAGGOT?

>>17816568
I asked the question first lmao. Why are you trying to dodge it? Would you be able to drink out of the white fountain if you were in the South during Jim Crow.

>>17816580
>duh iasked furst
average kindergarten level intelligence from the segregation poster

are yah fuckin stupid?

>>17816583
So answer the question. Are you white enough to drink out of the white fountain and thus able to use white facilities, or are you too brown/black and thus would have to use the colored facilities? Just be honest

>>17816474
I went to school with a bunch of them. They're no dirtier than white people

>>17816589
Your question is irrelevant and betrays your low intelligence

what was the last thing you read? some socialist blog?

>>17816451
Rich assholes personal fortunes & hedonistic lifestyles were built on slavery.
The actual country prospered more without it.

>>17816590
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PN6Qd_Aak7I

>>17816592
Lmao how sad are you? I asked an honest question and you dodged it at every moment.

>>17816593
>Rich assholes personal fortunes & hedonistic lifestyles were built on slavery
Middle class people owned slaves. Many people rented slaves from other people and loaned them out to others.

>The actual country prospered more without it
Lol they still used plenty of other fucked up forms of labour to do it.

>>17816602
Lmao how mentally retarded are you? did you drop out of school?

>>17816122 (OP)
To not be exposed to psychotic black behavior

>>17816130
People still fall for this fake quote?

>>17816469
Yeah the chunks where blacks lived

>>17816606
So you would drink out of the black fountains then?

>>17816611
Have you seen Missouri state reps actively vote to strike down proposition for a minimum wage increase and a paid sick leave requirement for Missouri employers?

>>17816539
Targeted by what bitch? Having my own restaurants, toilets and drinking fountains?
Would have been horrible

>>17816495
You make it sound so dramatic. It's just water fountains nigga grow up

>>17816619
So you dropped out of school and are a babbling retard?
Why won't you answer the question?

>>17816240
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>>17816612
How is the flood problem going now that your great leader shut down the weather satellites

>>17816435
slavery is a slow poison and the economy of the south relied heavily on it

>>17816122 (OP)

after the civil war ended, there was a huge chimpout in south. birth of a nation was pretty accurate depicting it. this, of course, has been memoryholed.
jim crow laws were intended to keep white people safe, and now we have hindsight based on whats happening now.
schools were segregated because blacks could not learn at same rate as whites. and if blacks were integrated into white schools, it would affect the quality of education there.

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>>17816663
Lmao imagine trying to bump this shit thread up. Your obssession with blacks is getting sad at this point Jorge

>>17816886
>it would affect the quality of education there.
Southern education was ass though. Especially with the massive underfunding and the massive rural gap. Louisiana had a massively illiterate pop in both races.

>>17816421
>The U.S. was built on slavery.
Anon, you would be surprised to learn that until the 19th century, slavery was... everywhere!

It was only because of Christianity and advancements in technology that it became possible to end it. Guess who was involved in finally ending slavery? The same people you are deriding in this post for some reason. Guess where the abolition movement even started? It wasn't in Africa. There is still slavery going on low key there right now. I doubt that matters at all to you.

For you, there's just talking points. You repeat what your masters tell you to say: Even if it's untrue, even if it's disingenuous. All that matters is that you get paid.

>>17816951
leftists are historically illiterate and always will be, their foundational ideology is based on a complete reinterpretation of history to make it match whatever their current worldview is

>>17816951
>>17816959
I just said a factual statement, no need to get your panties in a knot over it. I'm not even a leftist.

Just cause the rest of the world did the same shit, colonization and subjugation etc. doesn't really change the fact that the U.S. was built on slavery. Does this frustrate you?

>>17817017
We couldn't have ended slavery if it didn't exist in the first place.

>>17816122 (OP)
racial segregation is too broad, if anything this board and other boards have proven that national segregation and religious segregation are more natural than racial segregation.

>>17817046
jews indians and slavs are a plague to be sure

to prevent this in white neighborhoods

>>17817053
and just look at how much shit flinging and animosity exists between groups as similar as white Americans, bongs, and other anglophones, and that's not even getting into europe itself

>>17817023
Slavery is a uniquely complex phenomenon, along with shit like war, religion or technological advancements, wherein the moral framework of them can be obscene, ignorant and destructive, HOWEVER they did achieve certain significant results.
Environmentalists piss and moan about fossil fuels, but if we never used them and didn't choke the planet in smoke and all kinds of other toxic shit, most of us would still be living in huts with rotting teeth, wiping our asses with our bare hands. Exploitation breeds innovation, suffering leads to advancement.
HOWEVER. We are at an unprecedented point in history where we actually have the capacity to foster a global society where everyone could get their basic needs met. But that's not a profitable endeavor, so people in charge (politicians, moneymen and corpos) keep inventing shit so that the first world gravy train lasts as long as humanly possible - through the sustained suffering of millions, somewhere on the other side of the globe.

>>17817065
In the 21st century that is pure reddit country rivalry. Meanwhile the races I mentioned are killing each other with gusto.

>>17817073
>Environmentalists piss and moan about fossil fuels, but if we never used them and didn't choke the planet in smoke and all kinds of other toxic shit, most of us would still be living in huts with rotting teeth, wiping our asses with our bare hands.
Only a select few benefitted from fossil fuel exploitation and now the world is melting because of it. That is not a good thing at all.

>>17816951
>It was only because of Christianity and advancements in technology that it became possible to end it
Christianity was used to justify slavery and even after abolition a fuckton of indentured and forced slave labour easbatill used by imperial powers.

>Guess where the abolition movement even started? It wasn't in Africa
Many Africans did protest or took issue with slavery. Many of them actively wrote about it and organized in Europe and Africa.

>There is still slavery going on low key there right now. I doubt that matters at all to you.
It exists everywhere lol. What do you think people sheltering illegals in small shacks are exactly?

>>17817095
>It exists everywhere lol.
And by everywhere I mean like in all the supply chain and even within developed states to this. Portuguese men were tricked into working fishing jobs in the British Isles and basically made to fish 24/7 at the risk of being thrown overboard and this was in recent history. Now it shifted onto other groups who are brought over to work these ships. You also see this fishing slave ships in SEA too

>>17817091
We all benefitted from it, it would be foolish to pretend otherwise. All our clothes, food, transportation and infrastructure is a direct result of the industrial revolution. The breakfast you ate yesterday, the swivel chair you're sitting in, the media you watch or listen to before you go to bed.
Somewhere along the line, it's all thanks to big oil, big coal and big nitrogen, whether it's fertilizers, container ships or freight trains. All of it is connected.

>>17817100
Then there was the whole sharecropping thing going on where white and black sharecroppers and their individual family members were trafficked across state borders.

>>17817103
>We all benefitted from it, it would be foolish to pretend otherwise
Not equally at all. Many statea got to leverage them at their peak during their industrialization. Other states didn't and now have to do so without an cheap source of coal or oil to leverage. You think everyone was living a developed qol?

>>17817105
We don't need to split hairs. My point is that ultimately it is a force for good. Or was, anyways. Now is the time to alter course. I give it like 1 generation, some of these old fucks to die off and we will have the ability to steer the ship into a different direction. Or we all die, which, for the record, is also fine by me.

>>17816122 (OP)
>What was the purpose of racial segregation in the US?
To segregate the POCs or "colored people" away from the White people, at a time when the average difference between these 2 groups of people were way larger than they are now. When WW2 kicked off the average IQ of blacks in North America was 78, as far as I recall. This was also a time when everyone except the elite was less readily educated than they are now in the year 2025 since you had to be a richfag and have access to books in order to educate yourself on the various things in the world.

Imagine dealing with a group of people who were retards in comparison to yourself, when you yourself would be considered a retard only 80 years later. No fucking wonder 95% of White people proudly called themselves racist back then. If you think I'm being too harsh here then you must remember that it was considered a very big deal whenever a negro managed to attain a skilled job or higher status in society for the first time 100 years ago. Even as late as the 2000's there were many discussions about this subject. Now basically everyone in the world can read and write if they will themselves hard enough into learning it, so racism is massively more taboo and petty in the developed world.

>>17817132
>Now is the time to alter course.
Way way too late.

>I give it like 1 generation, some of these old fucks to die off and we will have the ability to steer the ship into a different direction
So we have to wait until they die off? In an era where lifespans are at the highest ever, even if one ate processed crap from day one and still have way more voting power?

>>17816122 (OP)
got to keep'em seperated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jOk8dk-qaU

>>17817135
Man you can't be serious with this IQ shit, everybody and their mom knows by this point that it's all bs

>>17817217
>Man you can't be serious with this IQ shit, everybody and their mom knows by this point that it's all bs
I can, because I have multiple African friends myself unlike libtards, and I look at statistics and history in order to continually refine my ethno-politics. Something is not true or false simply because it's taboo or it's labeled as 'racist' or 'discredited' or whatever other stupid fucking bullshit that these mainstream institutions come up with in order to prevent another Nazi Germany-like scenario. Every black person outside of Africa would return to Africa immediately if they knew their people were exactly the same, since they would create something equal or even better than the West within a few years. This is not to speak of individual excellences within a group, since that's very self-explanatory. There are other metrics than IQ too, such as average reaction time, brain size, inventions per capita, etc. etc. etc.
I'm not going to say here that education and environment doesn't play a role, since obviously Ashkenazi jews would not be nearly as successful as they generally are today if environment and education were irrelevant. They're not irrelevant factors.

>>17817217
Only actual retarded people deny the existence of intelligence as cope

>>17817095
>Christianity was used to justify slavery
Actually no anon, it was literally the Talmud which was used back then to justify it. Try not to get such important details mixed up.

>Many Africans did protest or took issue with slavery. Many of them actively wrote about it and organized in Europe and Africa.
Abolition of slavery was advocated by Roger Williams as early as the 1630's. The problem he faced was that he alone couldn't stop people who claimed to be Jews from running slave ships and buying slaves from other Africans. These other people were constantly dealing in the slave trade.

It took determination to stop them. Those who ended it were Europeans like the British as well as the Americans during the course of the Civil War and the 13th and 14th amendments. Those in Africa and other populations never ended it. If left alone, they never would have stopped the slave trade. Even now, it takes outside influence to try to stop slavery in Africa today. They just don't possess the morality to stop it on their own.

So we've got problems like this going on right now in certain parts of the world, but you're instead focused on your talking points - the same tired, recycled talking points. There used to be slavery in every part of the world, but we actually did end it. Instead of being thanked, we get this selective rewriting of history which pretends the opposite. I hear anti-American talking points parrotted, and I see true history, as it actually is, being ignored. Maybe it's just because you were told to keep repeating these disingenuous statements and you don't even know what they mean. In any case, they paint an entirely false view of history.

And it's very interesting how I don't hear anything from the same people about how the communists, in the 20th century (!), re-instituted slavery deliberately on a massive scale. They introduced slavery and famine as a cynical means, just to keep people poor and miserable. No word about that, apparently.

>>17817269
I think the IQ deniers main critique is that "IQ is a bad measurement of intelligence" but then other measurements are equally as harsh, if not more

>>17817286
It just starts with "technically it's not accurate" and the goes into full blown "people three standard deviations below everybody else aren't dumb"

>>17817319
Well, their intentions are noble in the end, from their point of view.

>>17817280
This is generally false. Especially in the 19th century US abolitionism was spearheaded by black people.

>>17817368
Abolitionism was spearheaded by religious fanatics in the north as the northern economy collapsed under Jefferson's embargo who sought to destroy the south so they couldn't never hold power in the white house again

>>17816565
Not him but I'd drink out of the black one and I'd stare down any nearby blacks as I did it. ALL of the water is mine.

>>17816130
Well, is not a stupid idea and has probably been applied in any expanding empire.

>>17817286
>>17817319
>>17817269
Iq isn't a DBZ power level metric. Its only relevance is in education within a school setting to devise an IEP. Outside of that comparing a Chinese 100 to a French 100 literally means nothing.

>>17817280
>it was literally the Talmud which was used back then to justify it. Try not to get such important details mixed up.
You had actual preachers and churches actually push that slavery was justified in the South. South Africa had Calvin's that was used to justify slavery and other things.

>>17817646
It is relevant when civilized races are in the same iq bracket and your precious niggers are the saibamen from dbz.

>>17817280
>If left alone, they never would have stopped the slave trade
You do know slavery wasn't at an equal level in Africa as a whole. Southern Africa didn't have it and several states fought against incursions from the Portguese.

>>17817653
The myth that "Ham's descendants" represent blacks and should be enslaved is straight from the Talmud. It's not anywhere in the Bible.

>>17817646
>DBZ power level metric
You said this before

>>17817256
>Every black person outside of Africa would return to Africa immediately if they knew their people were exactly the same, since they would create something equal or even better than the West within a few years.
That logic makes no sense. Why don't you apply that to every single immigrant and expat group then?

>>17817659
And yet you had Christians still uae the Bible to justify it as well as using the whole Ham thing to push it alongside "Cain's mark".

>>17817661
And it is still correct.

>>17817256
"I'm not racist I have black friends" ass post lmao.

>>17817679
>"I'm not racist I have black friends"
No it's "I am racist and I have black friends" get it right
>>17817663
That logic was taken from the black man Tommy Sotomayor, sorry

>>17817693
and the whole friendship hinges on them not knowing about what you think about them or their people or them tolerating you.

>Tommy Sotomayor
That guy is legit mentally ill as fuck and really projects his self-hatred on others.

>>17817672
>And yet you had Christians still uae the Bible to justify it as well as using the whole Ham thing to push it alongside "Cain's mark".
Whoever was saying that was getting it from the Talmud ultimately.

>>17816122 (OP)
It was a desperate attempt for whites to feel superior without being superior.

Nobody is superior or inferior to anybody.

>>17816122 (OP)
Not living next to niggers

>>17816122 (OP)
it was just good sense and every day of de-segregation has proven it

>>17816122 (OP)
>What was the purpose of racial segregation in the US?
To keep Blacks and poor Whites from usurping the authority/influence of the political and economic elites in the South, given these two demographics are remarkably similar and poorfag Southern Whites are far closer to Black Americans culturally and economically than they were to the Cavalier elites. That's why the end of reconstruction and rise of Jim Crow was a slower and more tragic burn than a lot of people think.
Picrel in particular is a really tragic moment during this time.
>>17816130
>t. guy who rose to power on the backs of Mexicans held in de facto serfdom

>>17816122 (OP)
Protecting whites and keeping black behavior on a leash.

>>17818442
>it was just good sense
But the South was shithole though that was decades behind the most middling north states

>>17816130
What a stupid faggot.

>>17816122 (OP)
It was the late 19th and early 20th century equivalent of DEI but nobody wants to admit this

>>17820471
people who are fans of DEI will agree with you

>>17816123
fpbp
and its still working

>>17820466
He's right. Aparthied did the same thing by duping White Saffers into thinking the state would provide them all cushy jobs and middle class privileged lifestyles if they all complied. It couldn't and explicitly lied to the populace just so industry and the state captured government fleeced the country until the gig was up. Then every rich guy bailed or built a fortress and all the governmer actors and collaborators all got away scot free and fleeced the state of asset and money.

>>17817280
>Those who ended it were Europeans like the British
the Rothschilds ended slavery in the British Empire

>>17817727
>Whoever was saying that was getting it from the Talmud ultimately.
Christianity ultimately derives from Jews

>>17820977
>explicitly lied to the populace just so industry and the state captured government fleeced the country until the gig was up
America did the same thing during deindustrialization except no specific large demographic group benefitted from it.

>>17820429
And now it's worse.

>>17816122 (OP)
>What was the purpose of racial segregation in the US?
To reinforce the racialist worldview.

>>17816122 (OP)
>What was the purpose of racial segregation in the US?
Safety. Non whites were kept separate from whites for the safety of whites.

>>17821004
Those who claim to be Jews today have nothing to do with the Biblical Jews.

>>17816122 (OP)
To keep Blacks as a permanently immiserated underclass. This benefits the ruling class in multiple ways.
>It depresses wages by making sure there is always a desperate black person willing to work for less.
>It disciplines non-ruling class whites by telling them "Be thankful we don't treat you as bad as the blacks, act up and we will" by buying them off with "better" services than the blacks.
>It redirects poor whites frustration with their circumstances onto the aforementioned desperate blacks who are forced to work for cheaper.

>>17816122 (OP)
Gross incompatibilities between races.

>>17821304
Do you have a better candidate for the jew who God Himself prophesied would return to his land after a 2000 year exile?

“After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.” (Hosea 6:2)

>>17821464
The vast majority of current-day Rabbinical Jews trace their heritage to Southern Italy and Eastern Europe.

>>17816122 (OP)
You know what it was. It was the white man's despicable, unholy attempt to play God and deny basic, universal human rights to innocent people of color that weren't born white by sheer chance.

Fun fact: If you're black, your people were legally and constitutionally crushed underfoot by deplorable whites from 1619 to 1964, when segregation was FINALLY struck down as unconstitutional. Literally hundreds of years of being treated as subhuman filth and cattle.

Happy late 4th of July, God bless America!

>>17821551
I didn't know the Knowing Better guy lurked here.

>>17821550
So long as they can trace their legal right back to Jacob, it doesn't matter who they mixed with. The issue remains that prophecy must be fulfilled and there ain't nobody else coming back to that place after a 2000 year exile.

>>17821569
>they can trace their legal right back to Jacob
I'm saying that the vast majority of Jews can't with the exception of certain types of Oriental Jews that stuck around. They aren't descended from Hebrews and didn't even speak the language until Israel memed a bastardized version of it back into existence.

>>17821574
>I'm saying that the vast majority of Jews can't.

Neither you nor I know that for sure, but God does know, and there would be no point in bringing them back after 2000 years to fulfill prophecy if they were not.

In any event, being culturally stranged isn't an issue with God:

“¶ In those days also saw I Jews that had married wives of Ashdod, of Ammon, and of Moab: And their children spake half in the speech of Ashdod, and could not speak in the Jews’ language, but according to the language of each people.” (Nehemiah 13:23-24)

>>17816122 (OP)
Containing nigga moments

>>17816838
We grow ever closer to discrediting the Right which break the moderates and allow us to propose a much more radical party and leader.

>>17816123
>>17816130
What does this have to do with segregation laws in New York?

>>17816240
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>>17816130
Why make these unfalsifiable statements that just slander the collective body of Whites?
This is just anti-White.
The point of segregation was to prevent blacks from becoming a problem for Whites.
It was to prevent children from being stabbed in the heart at track meets.
black on White violence has killed more people than ALL of America's wars combined post 1945.
The level of tolerance Whites have had for an openly murderous anti-White group is astonishing, if ever there was Karma it is the blacks who owe the Whites.

Slavery did not kill as many blacks as blacks have killed of Whites.
>>17816421
>The US was built on slavery
Where were the slaves building Steel Factories in PA? Where were the slaves building the trade fleet that sailed from New York and California?
>Politics has made a fortune off of exploiting these racial differences

blacks are net negative of -500k over the course of their life.
Politics is bankrupt because of its tolerance for this perpetual underclass.

Maybe, just maybe, black economic status is the result of black qualities and not some abstract institutional conspiracy.

Where SHOULD blacks be? if there was no racism at all, would blacks be economically identical to Whites? wealthier than Whites? or poorer than Whites like they are now?

>>17816451
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>>17816872
slavery saw lower crime rates, more intact families, and positive economic growth compared to the black community today.

American industry and trade was built exclusively on industrial and trade policy controlling the Western hemisphere.
Grain, Steel, Textiles, Oil, and Gold built the United States along with intelligent Nationalist protectionist policies. slaves, blacks, and non-Whites were never once a primary contributor to these sectors of economy.
It has ALWAYS been Whites.

Whites do not owe anyone anything.

>>17822128
Segregation existed because God as using the white devils to punish the Hebrew Israelites by making them the tail and their enemies the head, like the curse of Moses says.

>>17817073
>HOWEVER. We are at an unprecedented point in history where we actually have the capacity to foster a global society where everyone could get their basic needs met.
This isnt true its also very foolish to try and attempt this given human behaviors.
It would be fucking retarded to continue giving food and medicine to populations that will continue to grow, they need sustainability not a perpetually rising cost of maintenance being paid.
>its just not profitable
PROFITABLE??????!??!?!?? The Capitalists are throwing away their golden geese solely out of spite.
Capital and Profit does not explain the behaviors we observe, I am sorry, Marx was profound for his time but he had been proven dreadfully wrong. Man is not an economic unit. Maybe in the age of nationalism, mass mobilization, and mass industry and Europeans were 50% of the planet - man was primarily an economic unit, but we dont live in those days anymore.
Economic producers are a minority
The industrial working class is a minority.

>>17821551
>basic universal human rights
who invented these?
which african philosopher penned these rights?
>subhuman filth and cattle
Cattle are well cared for.
Children are "subhuman" as they lack the rights of a fully formed adult human.
Are children not cared for? do people hate Children? are children oppressed unfairly and unjustly?
What about the Fetus? is that subhuman form oppressed unjustly?

your post is b8 but it reminded me how fucking retarded the pre-Trump Left was/is.

>>17822165
A child has more rights than an adult.
A fetus is classified as a parasite.

>>17822136
We don't have a lot of data on violent crime in the 19th century rural South.

>>17821441
Sorry but how does any of this make sense?
Segregation means blacks are willing to work for lower pay then they would be in the absence of it? Why?

>>17822043
You really think weather satellites were shut down in mid flight and that's why there was a flood?

Maybe we really should go back to the old way of doing things after all.

>>17822128
>Slavery did not kill as many blacks as blacks have killed of Whites.
It doesn't matter to them. They only care about perceptions, not facts. The media is riling them up to hate Americans. If the people running the media stopped trying to act like slavery is still going on today, the whole tension surrounding this would dissipate. The real problem is they won't. You constantly keep hearing about it because they are agitating about it nonstop.

In addition to pretending like pre-Civil War slavery is still going on, they also make up fake nonsense about supposed atrocities that never even happened. The actual reality that they don't want to face is that the "Civil rights act of 1964" actually made society less just, not more. So they have to make up fake atrocities that existed before then which didn't even exist.

>>17816130
I don't think LBJ said "colored man", but he's right. In fact, he was so right that the idiots in this thread are seething that they fell for the wealtly American's biggest trick on the American population.

>>17816474
>they don't bathe

A friend of mine gifted me some African black soap last year.

>they don't bathe

Black Americans are the most autistic people when it comes to bathing, in fact it can be argued that they bathe too much. Everything else just proves you either don't know actual black people, or you're so poor that you think whatever gigapoor blacks are nearby you are the average in whatever shithole country you're from.

>>17822165
> Who invented human rights?
Very Jewish post, typical /pol/tard
Go back to obeying your zionist masters, cletus

>>17817653
Don't forget that in certain areas like the Caribbean had Bibles that were edited for slaves.

>>17822873
>>17822128
Lmao you guys need to touch grass.

>>17822136
>slaves, blacks, and non-Whites were never once a primary contributor to these sectors of economy.
>It has ALWAYS been Whites.
>Whites do not owe anyone anything.
Lol

>>17822128
>>17822873
> I, as a white person, should not be held accountable for the sins of other white people collectively
> However, all black people should be held accountable for the sins of other black people collectively
Holy. Fuck.
You people actually believe this.
I cannot believe I actually live in a world where terminally online, edgy manchildren like these dudes legitimately eat, breathe, and believe the most astoundingly racist, alt-right talking points without the slightest moment's hesitation.
Well, whatever. If another civil war in America breaks out, I'd be glad to kill you fuckers and bury you with your cuck ancestors. :)

>>17823029
> However, all black people should be held accountable for the sins of other black people collectively
I don't remember saying this. You are lying and putting words in my mouth. When will you stop making up lies and do something productive, or at least not interrupt when reasonable people are having a conversation?

I'll say it again. The "Civil rights act" made society less just, not more. Affirmative action and DEI are unjust. Deal with it, anon.

>>17823040
White women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action and DEI.

>>17823046
Even if that's true, I don't care. End it.

>>17823029
You wouldn't need to strawman if your positions were not garbage and indefensible.

>>17823040
>The "Civil rights act" made society less just, not more.
It didn't. You think the prior shit was any good?

>Affirmative action and DEI are unjust.
Lmao. Thats the point you hyperfocus on? No wonder the "right" is so fucking dead.

>>17823040
You can spew your delusional opinion that's completely detached from reality as often as you want- you're objectively wrong. You're only this brave and hitting me with a "Deal with it", because you're spewing your garbage over the protection of the internet where you're faceless.

However, in the actual world, you have to deal with countless people all over America that massively disagree with you (Even violently so), and accordingly, you being the pussy that you are, you don't say or do shit about it.

Go ahead and tell Jamal the next time you pass him on the street you don't agree with the civil rights act. Pussy.

>>17823057
>You think the prior shit was any good?
Freedom of association is a good thing and actually a Constitutional right that the government cannot take away.

The government itself has to be unbiased, but it has zero Constitutional justification to force private individuals to be unbiased.

>>17823096
>Go ahead and tell Jamal the next time you pass him on the street
Who?

>you don't say or do shit about it.
I'm saying it right now.

>>17823105
> I'm saying it right now.
No, no you aren't. You're a coward. Again: you're "speaking" over the protection of the internet where you're faceless and unidentified. Would you talk all this shit against the civil rights movement in the real world, on the streets and in person?

No, you wouldn't. Because you know, factually, that your opinion is deplorable, and you're a deplorable coward. And being as such, you're as quiet as a mouse in the real world lol.

>>17823122
idiot that doesn't realize speaking on the internet is more effective than the real world

>>17823122
>No, no you aren't.
People are seeing it, aren't they?

>Again: you're "speaking" over the protection of the internet where you're faceless and unidentified.
I am still correct.
>Would you talk all this shit against the civil rights movement in the real world, on the streets and in person?
Whether or not I do, I am still correct.

>>17816122 (OP)
The US was founded as a White nation, it only makes sense to segregate

>>17823122
>I would physically assault you for having a different opinion if I could
Something, something, no impulse control, prefrontal cortex deficiency, etc.

>>17823127
>speaking on the internet is more effective than the real world
Not even close brownie.
>>17823128
And you do this in the safety of a post-Joot and post hack 4chan lol

>>17823128
> Whether or not I do
There is no "whether". Stop bullshitting me. You know you wouldn't say any of this in the street because of the immense backlash you'd receive. People with generally correct and mostly agreed upon opinions wouldn't be met with almost universal pushback upon voicing those opinions in public.

You're a pussy, and I am correct about that in addition to my previous statements.

>>17823105
>Freedom of association
>Constitutional justification to force private individuals to be unbiased.
Bot doesn't even know what he's arguing for.

>>17823127
the most effective revolutions in the entirety of world history took place long before the internet, retarded zoom-zoom
believe it or not, george washington didn't have access to tiktok in his era
no cap ong

>>17823143
>the immense backlash you'd receive
People should be free to have and express whatever opinions they want to have. If you disagree then I suggest you consider how your civil rights leaders would have been silenced without such freedom. Of course expecting you to be able to grasp such an abstract concept is probably just making you feel angry because you literally can't.

>>17823153
Sure, bro. And you're so ""comfortable"" with this opinion you're completely secure in having, that you're only ever willing to express this opinion and sentiment over the intangible world of the internet.

I rest my case, pussy.

>>17823141
Protected groups are a fictional set of categories that the government cannot force on anyone or anything but itself.

Also, the concept of "disparate impact" is another fallacy piled on top of the first one. It's the classical fallacy of thinking that correlation is causation. That fallacy can be used to justify just about any argument that the individual wants to make if they are clever enough.

I don't care that you don't like it. Plenty of people hate our freedoms and our way of life. I don't care that you want to keep being given welfare indefinitely as some kind of welfare queen. That has nothing to do with reality.

>>17823153
>If you disagree then I suggest you consider how your civil rights leaders would have been silenced without such freedom.
They likely don't understand their hypocrisy, so I always try to establish a common groundwork understanding about some basic facts first. Otherwise they are likely to get "confused."

>>17823164
So you are pussying out then lol
>I don't care that you don't like it. Plenty of people hate our freedoms and our way of life.
Lmao are you trying you paint it like you are the victim?

>>17823164
> Protected groups are a fictional set of categories that the government cannot force on anyone or anything but itself.
Exactly! Which is why constitutional segregation was dismantled. Glad you understand the purpose of this thread, retard. :)

>>17823168
>are you trying you paint it like you are the victim?
No because I believe truth will prevail over injustice. You guys literally cannot lie fast enough to keep up with the truth.

>>17823172
>No because I believe truth will prevail over injustice
The truth that you are crying over something you dont even grasp at all? That you want to feel persecuted?

>>17823178
The walls just closed in a little more.

>>17823164
...So despite your eloquent speech, how are you going to cope with the fact that you just argued against yourself and segregation right here >>17823170
?

>>17823200
The government cannot force the states to follow its categories for protected groups. Clear enough for you?

>>17823206
Well, that's strange: because last time I checked, the government rightfully CAN and HAS, forced states to follow it's categories for protected groups.

Hm. Who should I believe here: basic American history, or some random dickhead on 4ch*n? Tough decision.

>>17823215
>last time I checked, the government rightfully CAN and HAS, forced states to follow it's categories for protected groups.
It also forced slavery at one point in the 19th century. That doesn't make it any more constitutional, anon.

>>17823206
> The government can't do this, angrily laments anon, as the government already did it

>>17823228
What in the fuck are even arguing in favor of? So you admit slavery was wrong, but you're also trying to say removing legalized segregation was also wrong? It must be hard on you like this to try and articulate your vile talking points without hundreds of your fellow /pol/tards parroting everything you're saying in your gay echo chamber :((

>>17816122 (OP)
>sit on the same but going to the same place at the same time
>be asked to move seats every once in a while
>this is apparently the worst thing ever

>>17823248
Fuck off with your broken ESL gibberish, rajeesh
You don't have a stake in any of this over there in your 3rd-world shithole

>>17823162
>you're only ever willing to express this opinion and sentiment over the intangible world of the internet
Anon, white guilt is dead. People say such things all the time and the fatigue is real.

>>17823246
>slavery was wrong,
Absolutely.

>>17823256
*Insert Ronaldo "The jews did this" gif*

>>17823254
You aren't white, Muhammad.

>>17823282
They also did Nazism in the 20th century as well

>>17823293
Bearing false witness is a sin.

>>17823295
This just in, germany was actually nice to Jews, so nice to them in fact the Jews started preaching assimilation during the Jewish enlightenment. Once the rural shtetel tard Jews in Poland and to the east caught wind of this they created Zionism and some adhered to communism and were pivotal in the 1905 Russian communist revolution

>>17823301
This mf did not just talk about sinning, while here he is being immensely racist and rambling on about "black fatigue". Least hypocritical christian
Kill yourself

>>17823320
That grave just got a little deeper, anon.

>>17823301
1st John 20 KJV:

If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a LIAR: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

Daily reminder that the Bible you don't follow is openly rebuking you btw

>>17823330
>>17823320
White Christians castrated blacks and used them as farm equipment for the better part of 2k years. Your modern heresy has no power here.

>>17823334
> Quoting the Bible against me, the hypocrite talking about sin, is the equivalent of modern heresy
Damn bro, that's tough. You're going straight to hell. Like, down to the boiler room of hell. Yeesh.

>>17823336
You want to know where you failed? It was when you misrepresented who "brother" refers to.

>>17823345
> Directly reciting the Bible is misrepresenting it
Holy fuck. People like you are why religion nowadays is mocked and treated with scorn. I'm very grateful to not be you right now lol

>>17816123
>>17820558
Revolting against what?

>>17823366
JEWS

>>17820977
It's not about class. People just don't like other races because of what they look like. It's about aesthetics

>>17823365
Yeah, you misrepresented it. You suggested that "brother" refers to people who, historically, it never was interpreted as referring to.

>>17816421
>The right way forward would be for the people to recognize that the single biggest segregating factor is not skin color or country of origin, but money and economic class.
But this literally isn't true. The biggest segregating factor is sex/gender.

>>17823393
There's no way what YOU just said was true. Since when as a man do I care about women?

>>17816122 (OP)
You know what? I'm morbidly curious: as a normal, non-stereotypical, black man from Virginia, USA- I have a basic question towards all the /pol/maggots infesting this thread:

What exactly is it that you believe Black people in America should do?

And don't give me any bullshit white supremacist copouts like "Hurrrr go back to Africa! XDDDD" when you can just as easily be told "Hurrrr go back to Europe! XDDD".

>>17823398
I care about women much more about rich people because they affect my life much more

>>17823420
>much more about rich people
*than about rich people

>>17823419
>What exactly is it that you believe Black people in America should do?
Go prove you can do it by yourself far away from the white people you hate.

>>17823420
>I care about women
Fag

>>17823431
>I care about rich people
Poorfag

>>17823427
I just specified in my post "Don't give me any bullshit white supremacist copouts like "Hurrrr go back to Africa! XDDDD"".
You aren't arguing in good faith at all whatsoever, go back to Europe, etc.
Anyone else?

>>17823427
By sending them to a random spot in Africa they had no personal connection to and didn't even properly represent their homelands, which included second-generation and third-generation blacks that weren't even born there to begin with? What exactly is this going to accomplish?

>>17823434
that is like being sick and telling the doctor not to give you the medicine
>>17823435
>what does that accomplish
it cures the disease

>>17823427
>>17823441

I cannot imagine for the life of me being so astoundingly moronic, that without even the slightest hint of awareness or irony, you have the gall to tell anyone to go back to their country, while living in a country that was exclusively stolen.

The whole world laughs at Americans.

>>17823444
Conquered through military victory is not the same thing as showing up and asking for free gibs because you think whites should feel bad for you.

>>17823444
Natives got raped by 50 different germs at once bleeding out their eyes and ears and convulsing, they had no understanding of property and when they were paid for land they got mad when whites started cutting down trees. Whites at the time figured the best thing for them was to deport them as far west as possible to not be snuffed out by whites

>>17823434
>You aren't arguing in good faith at all whatsoever, go back to Europe, etc.
He is right though. You can either stop complaining or follow through on what you're saying. Africa is still there, waiting for you. It is true that you can save up some money and apply for citizenship somewhere over there, and no one will even try to stop you.

>>17823444
>you have the gall to tell anyone to go back to their country, while living in a country that was exclusively stolen.
There were no existing cities or pre-existing infrastructure to steal. Nothing but empty wilderness.

>>17823476
>pre-existing infrastructure
technically when whites came to the US they found tilled fields but no natives and considered it divine providence

>>17816122 (OP)
>What was the purpose of racial segregation in the US?
White people thought they were better than black people and wanted black people to know it.

>>17823476
>You can either stop complaining or follow through on what you're saying
Why should he? If he's Black American he's more American than the vast majority of the US by far.

>>17823488
its the old rats born in a horse stall problem, are they really horses? no, not really.

Why do whites hate this?

>>17823501
That's my star cotton picker what are you on about

>>17823496
Nice cope. They pretty much meet the checklist definition. Also that analogy you used has been misused so much times it has lost all meaning at this point.

>>17823501
you got it backwards, anon, the blacks are the ones who hate the whites

>>17823488
>Why should he?
People who want to take away our rights as Americans are wrong, so that isn't an option. Our rights are implicit and God-given. They cannot be violated. So, some other option has to be found. People who don't like our American values can either deal with it, or leave.

>>17823508
>the blacks are the ones who hate the whites
Lmao.

>>17823476
I am right though. You can either stop complaining or follow through on what you're saying. Europe is still there, waiting for you. It is true that you can save up some money and apply for citizenship somewhere over there, and no one will even try to stop you.

>>17823509
You arent convincing anyone Saar.

>>17823366
the good ole boys mostly on the right have every reason and means to tear down the oligarchic jews and their cronies running the country
but they've been duped for decades into voting against their own interests and staying in line by a clever combination of racism, threats to perceived manhood, and vague appeals to patrotism
going back to the 60s the whole modern culture war is basically manufactured dissent

>>17823516
Solutrean hypothesis, anon. You ever heard of it?

>>17823511
>blacks are the ones who hate the whites
true
they even fought a war to give blacks freedom from slavery, and then spent most of a century trying to give them every opportunity to be equals... all for not, btw, because the blacks will always hate the whites no matter how hard whites try to be kind.

>>17823501
Anyone notice how most ethnic hatred is targeted against men and not women?

>>17823434
Most founding fathers and even Lincoln wanted to ship them back to Africa or the Caribbean though. They correctly guessed that black and white society would never coexist peacefully, as seen throughout US history. The US was founded as a White nation so I don’t know how you’re so retarded to think it’s not a legit argument

>>17823528
I don't get it. When black people blame "DA WHYTE MANE" that's bad, but when white people blame "DA BLAK MANE" that is somehow good?

Perhaps, just perhaps, anyone who is a racial supremacist that victimises themselves constantly should consider suicide, regardless of race?

>>17823511
>>the blacks are the ones who hate the whites

>>17823538
>>>the blacks are the ones who hate the whites
"blacks" is a rather odd way of spelling out "jews"

>>17823536
>racial supremacists that portray themselves as the victims constantly
blacks and jews, that's who does that.

>>17823553
*blacks, whites, and jews, that's who does that.

>>17823528
>all for not, btw, because the blacks will always hate the whites no matter how hard whites try to be kind.
I don't believe it's that simple, anon. The reason why things are like this right now is because of media conditioning. People have been watching too many movies and TV shows made by "them" lately, which makes them feel like they can act uppity. The reality is they can't, and in time, I believe they will learn that. They think they are gods who are about to take away our freedoms -- it isn't happening. They've lost control of the information environment. All things are going to the historical norm, to the default state.

>>17823532
That's not a legit argument because it's never been implemented, nor could it ever be implemented you absolute retard. If the black man should return to Africa, what should your white ass do, exactly? You'll be going after them next to Europe, right?
No?
Oh okay, then. So shut the fuck up and stop talking out your ass, 12 year old.

>>17823562
You suck at gaslighting. White supremacy hasn't been kosher for at least five decades. On the other hand, black and jew supremacy is not only tolerated, it seems to be encouraged.

>>17823576
White supremacy hasn't been mainstream for at least five decades out of the countless centuries prior where it was, in fact, mainstream?? OH MY GOD, THAT'S LE EBIN GASLIGHTING

>>17823583
Yeah, you were gaslighting. And now you are moving the goalposts. And you know what else? you are tiresome and next you'll probably do a greentext strawman.

>>17823591
Yes, you're right. I was moving the goalposts by pointing out how detached from reality you are by mentioning basic history. You got me.

>>17823563
I see
So you're saying we should destroy the Jewish ethnostate?

>>17823576
>White supremacy hasn't been kosher for at least five decades
There's people outright saying that shit in public and on media that literally anyone can see. Several presidential candidates campaigned on strats that used rheotirc along the lines of that and/or general racism

>>17823583
>White supremacy hasn't been mainstream for at least five decades out of the countless centuries prior where it was, in fact, mainstream??
That wasn't an actual thing. It's just something modern people made up a definition for (you know who) and tried to project it on history through historical revisionism.

>>17823528
Wow this twitterbot really is doubling down.

>>17823532
>Most founding fathers
Weren't alive

>even Lincoln wanted to ship them back to Africa or the Caribbean though
As a stray thought but realized it was retarded.

>>17823614
Jesus christ, people were using Google since the early 1900s??

>>17823622
Ever heard of "google books" before now, anon? Or archive.org? There are scans of books going back hundreds of years. I'm surprised you've never heard of this.

>>17823626
How long has Google been publishing books for? Hard to believe they were in business before they invented Google search lol.

>>17823573
Why would a White person leave a nation founded by and for Whites and built by their White ancestors? Are you one of those retards that thinks the US was a country before white peoples were here lmao

>>17823619
The founding fathers were alive at one point and wanted to free slaves and kick them out the country. They limited citizenship to White people for a reason

>>17823637
You aren't white, Muhammad.

>>17823631
They have scans of old books. You are sub-70 IQ, anon. Pic unrelated but relevant to thread.

>>17823653
I’m 100% White and not some third world muslim savage. I have ancestors that fought in the revolutionary war

>>17823661
>I have ancestors that fought in the revolutionary war
so do many blacks in America today. what's your point?

>>17823661
> I'm 100% white!! Trust me, SAAR!!!
You're still not white, Muhammad.

>>17823664
>>17823670
Not an argument. I won.

>>17823671
> No actual rebuttal posted
I accept your concession, Muhammad. Now how about you fuck off back to your mudhole?

*yawn* so boring winning every debate here think I’ll go play some minecraft

>>17823660
Google has scans of the old books they used to publish way back when? No damn way, where?
Link?

>>17823383
Sorry, black people were explicitly shown to be capable of receiving and understanding the word of God. See: The Ethiopian Eunuch. Therefore, blacks are brothers. Try again!

>>17823683
You want to know where you failed? It was when you misrepresented who "brother" refers to.

>>17821550
>The vast majority of current-day Rabbinical Jews trace their heritage to Southern Italy and Eastern Europe.
>kikes are actually wypipo

>>17823252
>You don't have a stake in any of this over there in your 3rd-world shithole
it's arguably worse

>>17823924
>>17823926
I will rape your ass with my Aryan thundercock. You will feel the cum of Odin and himler in your tight little brown ass. When I'm done with you, you will be gregnant (gay-pregnant) with a brown baby.

>>17823680
that double digit /pol/tard IQ on full display

>>17823924
>>kikes are actually wypipo
A very inbred subgroup, but technically yes.

>>17824086
when whites blame all their problems on jews they are deflecting on a subgroup of whites that they pretend to be unrelated to while trying to avoid agency and responsibility
a very jewish tactic utilized by whites

>>17823680
You be dumb, anon.

>>17816122 (OP)
In summary, this is what I've learned from this thread according to the underage, rabid white supremacists that have been posting:

- White people have never done anything wrong, ever. They cannot be blamed for the Transatlantic slave trade, or the mass genocide of native Americans.
- Black people, despite being stolen from Africa, should all collectively fuck off back to Africa so the white man can enjoy the fruits of a country that was also stolen.
- By default, if you are white, you are not considered to solely represented by the absolute worst of your kind. If you are black or brown, you will be solely represented by the absolute worst of your kind.

And you, dear reader, may ask: what are the reasons for these insane double standards and copious amounts of cognitive dissonance? To which I reply: /pol/ was a mistake.

>>17823637
>The founding fathers were alive at one point and wanted to free slaves and kick them out the country.
And you just pulled that out of your ass

>>17824181
And then once again the response came back:
You still have to go back.

>>17824189
read a book nigger

>>17824096
>a very jewish tactic
It's a high-IQ tactic, lots of Asians and Arabs do the same thing, and even jews themselves do this amongst their subdemographics in Israel.

>>17824189
Thomas Jefferson from Monticello’s own website

>>17816122 (OP)
For redneck happiness

>>17816612
It is a real quote. He said it to Bill Moyers.

>>17824410
and yet it it wasn't even pushed past some occasional chatter. You do know the cost of shipping them back would be extremely expensive?

>>17816421 >>17816451 >>17822309 >>17823028
>>17822136 is right, most wealth in the modern world is due to industry and service sectors, not cotton over 100 years ago, blurting out "america is built on slavery" is like saying "Bill Gates is rich because of silicon", it doesn't explain anything.

The events of the past 30 years have overwhelmingly affected black people more than events before 1865 or even 1965. You have east asian immigrants come to America with virtually nothing and becoming heart surgeons with 6 figure incomes in this time, while black people lavished with DEI and preferential government spending remain in the ghettos, smoking weed, never getting real jobs, not even trade school even though unionized tradies are edging towards 6 figs in America right now. And you're saying "slavery" is why they are poor.

You have no idea how good things could be if you just got into the routine of working and being smart with your decisions and finances, but all these leftists screeching and blaming wypipo for all their problems as well as all that cringe gangsta shit keeps you in the dark. Your entire culture is about the ghetto, it is like you want to stay in the fucking ghetto forever.

>>17824453
>You have east asian immigrants come to America with virtually nothing and becoming heart surgeons with 6 figure incomes in this time
Many didn't. Most East Asians came educated later on and in several sectors still are antagonized as potential 5th columns.

>not even trade school even though unionized tradies are edging towards 6 figs in America right now
Lmao you are fucking retarded.Who told you those lies?

>You have no idea how good things could be if you just got into the routine of working and being smart with your decisions and finances, but all these leftists screeching and blaming wypipo for all their problems as well as all that cringe gangsta shit keeps you in the dark. Your entire culture is about the ghetto, it is like you want to stay in the fucking ghetto forever.
Bootstrap cultists are as pathetic as ever.

>>17824453
>You have east asian immigrants come to America with virtually nothing and becoming heart surgeons with 6 figure incomes in this time
The Asians who become heart surgeons generally didn't come here with nothing. Usually they're born to parents with at least modest wealth or come here as students, in which case they're wealthy enough to pay tuition. That's also pretty recent, like post 1990s. FWIW there's a significant black middle class, though the left ignores it. Check out DC, parts of Maryland, and Atlanta.

>>17824453
>it doesn't explain anything
It does. Turns out businesses and the state always came up with a plan to create the next best thing. You may not be able enslave a guy but you can keep him bonded to you as labourer in so many creative ways AND expand it beyond the confines of only targeting blacks. All without having to ever worry about feeding them or housing them.

>>17824472
>though the left ignores it.
They don't. Many black figures in both parties came from middle class families or became middle class in their adult years.

>>17824477
We've had to widen the tobacco rows 4 times already because of her posterior

>>17824477
They didn't want a low iq mulatto society like brazil.

>>17823679
Knowledge.

>>17824591
But American schools are actual ass though.

>>17824453
> blurting out "america is built on slavery" is like saying "Bill Gates is rich because of silicon"
This is why politics, especially in America is getting more and more extremely polarized: There is no longer any debate or argument about political rhetoric. Instead, there is now literal debates about historical fact and objective reality. This isn't "I think X is wrong", it's now "I think the color blue is actually the color green, and always has been."

This guy is so delusional he thinks slavery has had virtually zero economic impact on the founding of America, and is essentially a non-factor.

And this mouth-breathing, mentally crippled invalid here can easily find innumerable alt-right talking points online to "justify" his outright denial of world history.

America is 110% fucked. There will be no coming back from the grave mistake of not vanquishing the stray confederates allowed to live during the post-Civil War reconstruction.

It's over.

>>17816122 (OP)
Punishment for reconstruction and reverse of Black gains.

>>17816510
>socilist

>>17816611
Same, however 400 of this will make any nigga go feral.

>>17816886
>birth of a nation was pretty accurate depicting it
NGL, I wish niggas in was that baller eating fried chicken while putting their feet up on table at the US chamber. Real assertive Tyrone move.

>>17823427
Reminder Whites set a coup there and overthrew 140 years of Black american governance. Proving as always Black americans can't have anything without Whites fucking it up.

>>17823254
>Anon, white guilt is dead.
It didn't exist socially till mid 00s and even then Whites still got checked if they say some shit to the wrong nigga.

>>17823476
>He is right though. You can either stop complaining or follow through on what you're saying. Africa is still there, waiting for you. It is true that you can save up some money and apply for citizenship somewhere over there, and no one will even try to stop you.

And that bitch can stay waiting, like shenquea waiting for baby daddy with the cigs. We have no reason to go back to a neocolonial shithole that apes from apefrica are leaving in droves that they don't even own, that you cracs have destroyed the self-determination of Liberia in 1980s.

>>17823496
>its the old rats born in a horse stall problem
Wrong phase giving you brought them planted them to run you agriculture and industries and fought a war to keep them rats here.

>>17824449
There was the American Colonization Society which had future presidents in it and also Liberia where slaves were sent, what are you talking about? No matter what it would cost today it would be beneficial for both peoples to follow through with it

>>17823528
>and then spent most of a century trying to give them every opportunity to be equals...
Very nice bait, you had me there.

>>17823029
but we have been held accountable.
The problem is blacks arent accountable at all on the collective or individual level
>racist alt right
lol

>>17823096
Is the implication jamal will act like a violent animal if he hears something vaguely other than black worship
kind of racist.
>delusional
its not delusional
>people violently disagree
So what? Those people dont have tanks or missiles.
>you wont do shit
Whites when they did shit enslaved blacks at the racial level with minimum effort
it is Whites, particularly White laws and White civility, keeping blacks alive.

What the fuck is jamal going to do? speaking on averages Timmy is taller, stronger, and has some kind of fire arm.
Now what does jamal do if Timmy 1 and Timmy 2 decide to use their racial ability of social cohesion and bring the hammer down on jamal?

Its so utterly delusional for people to think blacks, the one race that had never taken a foreign capital EVER, are a warrior race.
The history of Africa is the history of a beaten prostitute.

>>17824476
black men were historically 6% of the United States during its industrial rise.
black men today are underperformers economically compared to White men
Why must we assume this 6% of the population built the major American industries of steel, textiles, gold, oil, and grains?
How is this 6% of the country contributing MORE to American industry than the 40% of the population which composed of White men who uniformly and exclusively actually work in those industries?

Explain that to me.
What would it take to falsify your view?
>>17823028
its literally just true, feel free to post a source stating black men, who were only 6% of the population, were over-represented to the point of providing a majority of labor value in the major industries of the United States.

>>17823011
Human Rights arent real, they are a set of luxury ideas WHITES exclusively came up with and have to protect with the threat of Force.
They do not exist in a state of nature.
>oh wow thank you White people
YOU ARE WELECOME
That is the correct response to living around White people.
The correct response is THANK YOU WHITE PEOPLE

>>17824695
race impacts IQ more than schools.

>>17824695
Lmao

>>17824721
>slavery has had virtually zero economic impact on the founding of America
Firstly, no one said this.
Secondly, what does this mean?
Are you saying "slavery had an economic impact on the founding of America"
what does that mean?
"The Founding of America"?
without slavery Enlightenment values wouldnt have reached the Social Elite of the American colonies?
>alt right
2015 was 10 years ago man.
>denial of world history

What would it take to falfisy your view?
to falsifiy my view you would have to post black men, 6% of the population during the Industrialization of the US btw, being overrepresented in primary and secondary industry such as Coal, Iron, Steel, Grain, Gold, Oil, Textiles, automobiles, construction, across all sectors, and to such a degree they provide a majority of labor value.

As it is now, blacks are an economic negative over their lifetime.
Why should we assume this wasnt always the case save for that brief period in their racial history when they had the good fortune to be slaves under Whites instead of blacks?

>>17816122 (OP)
Access to White people is not a human right.

>>17824695
American public schools were created to fast track irish illegal alien children into as sanitation worker, police officer or plumber job. They're not created to babysit illiterate screaming blacks or imported thirdies that don't know english

>>17825224
>High standardized test results = good schools
Holy shit

>>17825322
>gaming multiple choice tests without actually knowing the answer isn't intelligence

>>17816421
>US was built on slavery
Still waiting for Brazil and Haiti to become superpowers from all of that slavery generated industrial power and wealth

American society was already segregated by the institution of slavery. There were free whites, and there were slaves who lived in their own slave community. When freed, the free blacks still lived in their own black communities, separate from whites. There was no sudden integration of black and whites in the same communities just because slavery ended.

However without the institution of slavery to maintain strict hierarchical differences between blacks and whites there was the "danger" that there would be some intermingling between them, given enough time. This wasn't mere conjecture, they had only to look at Brazil and other South American states where there was no institutional separation of races.

So white politicians decided that it was necessary for some sort of official segregation to exist to maintain racial barriers in absence of slavery. Hence, segregation as an official policy. All they did was codify the unspoken rules that had already existed up to that point, and addressed the gray areas to try and maintain a clear separation of white and colored communities.

In some places it went further than this, and the whites in power used segregation as a means to further oppress and demean black people, which is why "separate but equal" rang so hollow.

>>17816130
Who is picking your pocket here and how? LBJ wasn't a Marxist, so what does his quote actually mean?

>>17825216
t. commie tranny

>>17825346
Haiti has a large pool of cheap labor, but because of the corruption and poverty your average person has no opportunity to start a business

>>17825463
yeah and why is there poverty and corruption in Haiti

>>17824460
>Bootstrap cultists are as pathetic as ever.
The Bible says if a man doesn't work, neither should he eat. Not "gibs me dem uhhhh food stamp".
>Lmao
Oh, you are retarded. Nevermind!

>>17825973
> The Bible says
Why are you quoting from a holy book you truly know nothing about and don't follow to begin with?
You're literally in this thread arguing in favor of Black people being enslaved, while talking about the Bible?
Fucking lol, man. Kill yourself.

>>17825973
I have been to your ooga booga red states.
A second in California is worth a century in your redneck shithole.

>>17825459
>actually YOURE the leftist
no, youre a shitlib tranny and human rights are not natural they are earned. blacks havent earned them.
>>17826233
People are moving to ooga booga red states from california tho

>>17826354
> youre a shitlib tranny and human rights are not natural they are earned
You just know this guy lives in his mom's basement and is seething about Jamal fucking his hillbilly mom all day lol

>>17826354
>blacks haven't earned human rights
why, because you said so lol? The American Civil War said otherwise and the emancipation proclamation says otherwise. Any white supremacist arguments and strawmen you've made have already been parroted millions of times before and defeated in wartime + political legislation.
you lost.
1845 isn't coming back. 1945 isn't coming back.
GG

>>17826354
People move to shitholes to retire all the time.
People move to India when they've made money too.

>>17824422
Says him. And the first time he mentioned that quote was in Washington Post article he wrote in 1980s. Why did he wait 20 years to tell this story? Who knows. And why did LBJ, a man known for saying nigger in every tape that exists of him, referred to them as "coloured men" in private one on one conversation? Who knows.

Not to mention the quote itself doesn't make much sense. Picking their pockets how? Through high taxes? Racists vote republicans and they lower taxes. Welfare? Same thing.

>>17822996
How is Trump picking our pockets in a way that Hillary/Kamala wouldn't?