Thread 17820546

I have with hard spiritual work distilled the truths about god that I have found until now. God is not a spirit. He's something beyond spirit. An entity, or being, he exists truly. Other things exist, but not as truly as he does. That's what I have found. He's the first before the first, the last before the last, the smaller than the smallest, greater than the greatest. And so on. But he truly exists. Other things are but shadows compared to him. So, worship should be directed at him only, because everything else is illusion and untrue. If you worshipped something else, the prayer wouldn't enter into infinity, the infinity of god, but into something temporal, bound to time and space, and thus finite. This is not correct worship. Thoughts on all that?

>>17820546 (OP)
Did the world really need a final prophet to tell us to drink camel piss, make it legal to beat our wives, establish slavery as a universal legal institution and practice, and legalize having sex with prepubescent children?
Was all of this garbage really necessary?
REALLY
REALLY
REALLY
ABSOLUTELY
VITAL
AND
NECESSARY?
Would the world be worse if no one ever engaged in any of those actions/activities, let alone codified them into law for all humanity?

>>17820546 (OP)
"Spirit" essentially serves as a catch-all term for any being not made of standard material

>>17820576
Nowhere in my op did I say I believe in Islam.

>>17820546 (OP)
God is the thing that manifests/animates the forms from the immaterial realm into the material realm. He didn't create the immaterial forms and he can't destroy them or create new ones but there's no consciousness/will higher than his because the immaterial world of forms is just the infinite potentialities of the void that preceded God. God is only omniscient in the sense that he knows all the possible forms, and he's only omnipotent in the sense that he has unlimited ability to materially manifest and animate the forms. God has a character/personality that exists independently of any forms that he's animating and his personality can best be described as, "cruel", "sadistic", "domineering", "controlling", "petty", "insecure", "prideful", "hysterical", "deceitful", "intrusive", "entitled", etc God often comes off stupid and lacking in basic understanding/common sense in his personal behavior but he obviously possesses some kind of "divine intellect", this "divine intellect" sometimes seems separate from his personality, like it's something that he has to tap into or activate but that isn't a constant part of his "pure conscious personality". God somehow has the ability to separate pieces of his consciousness from himself and give them limited free will (they're only separate from their perspective but God can still access their mind) and he uses these separated limited free will beings as the frame of reference for material reality, only animating the things that they interact with. I believe he animates/controls everything else in reality except the frame of reference as a hivemind, their minds/consciousnesses aren't separate from his or each others in any sense, and I suspect he only has one "frame of reference" with a semi-separate consciousness at a time.

>>17820546 (OP)
>>17820781
A large part of God's motivations for animating/manifesting forms into the material realm is to define himself in opposition to his "frame of reference", despite the frame of reference being the only thing that's persistently animated God mostly self-identifies with the other people he animates, and he mostly animates other people to abuse and dominate the "frame of reference" through these other, temporarily animated/manifested people. God wants to be able to self-identify as "a king" or "the boss" so he forces his frame of reference to live and self-identify as "a peasant", "a tenant", "worker", "farm equipment", etc and he self-identifies with the people he animates/manifests to dominate and abuse the frame of reference through.

>>17820546 (OP)
God thinks he can use sophistry to make himself bigger than he is but he can't. He is what he is and what he is is a retarded disgusting faggot

>>17820546 (OP)
>God is [...] an entity, or being
This implies that other entities and beings and God all share in a being-ness which transcends them, in turn implying that God has limits and laws which he must obey. Are you sure you've discovered "the truths about god?" Or have you just "discovered" a position that the Greeks ridiculed thousands of years ago?

>>17820781
By assuming that there is a void which precedes God you commit heresy as according to scripture. I realize the phrasing of this might upset you but it is not my phrasing, God is pretty clearly stated to be the beginning and the end. This means he supersedes a beginning state and an ending state as in he existed before there was things and will exist when nothing remains. What this means I am not entirely sure, I am not sure any of us ever will fully understand, but evidently the message is he has supreme control given that nothing existed before him and all other things exist because of him.

>>17820546 (OP)
Bullshit.

“God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” (John 4:24)

>>17820546 (OP)
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

>>17821290
What a load of crap, the Greeks thought you could reason your way to god and enlightenment.. in truth it needs meditation and purification of the heart through asceticism and other practices. I reject reason.

>>17821290
Number two. God is not a "being" but something indescribable, only that the word 'being' comes closest to his true essence. Of course, I know that he isn't a being in the real sense, I'm saying he's beyond words. You misunderstood my post. I mean if I say he's beyond words and silence alone can describe him, it's your fault if you think he's some sort of being among beings under some sort of law that he can't transcend. But I admit it could have been put better. God is something beyond existence: he created existence itself and all laws.

>>17821955
Oh I said the indescribable thing in another similar thread whatever

>>17820546 (OP)
So you are saying god has a dick? How do you know that? He this and he that means some man sat in a field and made this shit up to serve himself.