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Anonymous No.17825776 >>17825836 >>17825848 >>17825907 >>17825928 >>17826007 >>17826116 >>17828433
The 'white nationalist' view of history is mostly nonsense
Many self-described white nationalists, particularly those in the Anglosphere, and particularly Christians, advocate a view of history in which civilized light-skinned races engage in friendly collaboration to conquer or enslave uncivilized dark-skinned races, or else they get destroyed by the dark-skinned races in turn. This implies that different light-skinned races, whether Germanics, Czechs, East Slavs, or Jews, are effectively on the same 'team' in a constant struggle against the Third World. At least this is the view I see espoused by the BAP sphere and much of twitter. The /pol/ view is a bit different as they exclude Jews but otherwise keep the rest of the ideology the same.
The problem with this view is there's no basis for it historically or even contemporarily.
There's very little evidence dark-skinned people would have even ended up in Northern Europe if not for Jews, Slavs, and Germanics actively trying to sabotage one another. The Russians for example have no problem in the slightest in backing anti-imperialist, anti-colonialist, or desegregationist movements around the world so long as they hurt their hated enemy, the Anglo. The entire second half of the 20th century involves the Russians trying to destroy the Anglo-Saxon civilization, of which they were largely successful. A more modern example is Belarus deporting its migrants into Poland which in turn deports its migrants into Western Europe. Israel, too, which according to some is ostensibly a 'light-skinned' Western state, has no problem spending millions on resettling migrants into the West.
The way I see it, the 'dark-skinned' races are simply slaves used as pawns in a game of 'light-skinned' races attempting to destroy one another.
Anonymous No.17825836 >>17825842
>>17825776 (OP)
That is fantastic, we should remove all political rights of black people and then re-distribute them back on a per-tribe basis because "black" is a social construct and to do anything else would imply all blacks are on the same team o algo.
Anonymous No.17825842 >>17825992
>>17825836
Blacks aren't on the same team either. They sold each other into slavery
Anonymous No.17825848 >>17825851 >>17825853 >>17826202
>>17825776 (OP)
any skin based nationalism has always been a massive meme, whites spent most of their history fighting other whites, blacks spent most of their history fighting other blacks, etc, even in said meme movements they are still prone to massive amounts of infighting (just ask any of them who actually counts as said race and watch as they have the most schizo conversation you can imagine) it pretty much has all the draw backs of both ethno and religious nationalism with none of the benefits of either
Anonymous No.17825851
>>17825848
Pretty much true
Anonymous No.17825853 >>17825859 >>17825861
>>17825848
>its a meme
well it works and people who engage in it dont need your critique of it to succeed.
>uhm just get the wignats talking about italians or something

Youre a lefty, if you were a wignat youd know those are jokes.
an equivalent joke for non-racial politics would be if you thought Libertarians as a whole literally believed roads should not exist.
Anonymous No.17825859 >>17828403
>>17825853
>Libertarians as a whole literally believed roads should not exist.
They're right.
Anonymous No.17825861 >>17826353
>>17825853
>those are just jokes bro
that might have worked if we don't see you fags constantly engage in said "jokes"
Anonymous No.17825895 >>17825900 >>17827772
Retarded OP and posters in this thread.

It doesn't matter if it is LITERALLY true, it is a metaphysical concept or spiritual in nature.
Anonymous No.17825900 >>17825917
>>17825895
this is the same type of logic a commie uses to justify why his ideology keeps flopping
Anonymous No.17825907
>>17825776 (OP)
>>17825630
Stop seething about white people.
Anonymous No.17825909
there is no white culture

the sterile corporate imposition youre referring to is societal-wide MK-ULTRA grooming for cattle to toil on behalf of agendas that extend beyond them

naturally the white man was satisfied in the forest amongst fauna as kin but has since been grafted into Saurons racket

subjected to the worst form of bondage
Anonymous No.17825916 >>17825933
White nationalism is not a thing. It’s just mutts in the states with an identity crisis riding coat tails of every convenient civilisation.
Anonymous No.17825917
>>17825900
It is not equivalent, moron.

One is a metaphysical system of belief.

The other is an economic one embedded in reality and principles of trade and finance and property.
Anonymous No.17825928 >>17826516
>>17825776 (OP)
War is the white man's way. We all respect each other for it. The ultimate proof brown inferiority is their inability to admit that war and conflict are necessary goods, and instead of respecting a worthy opponent like the Russian does the Saxon, or the Saxon does the Maori and the Zulu, the meek brown will be filled with envy and hatred. Firstly at others for beating him and secondly at himself for being so feeble.
Anonymous No.17825933
>>17825916

"white nationalism" is a meme if you consider there are no "white nations"

white men simply have pigpens where they are placed and pawned off into foreign territory

grazing cattle used for terraforming initiatives and provided squatting privileges as subservient beast helping to tend the roost

because you live on a animal farm, lest we forget
Anonymous No.17825992
>>17825842
I mean, so did literally every other race of human on the planet.

Hell the Japs even sold each other to the Portuguese at one point.
Anonymous No.17826007 >>17826097
>>17825776 (OP)
>A more modern example is Belarus deporting its migrants into Poland which in turn deports its migrants into Western Europe.
Based. Fuck Germanics.
Anonymous No.17826097 >>17826100
>>17826007
You're proving the point of the OP
Anonymous No.17826100 >>17826106
>>17826097
I'm well aware. "White nationalism" is a non-starter anywhere outside of Muttland.
Anonymous No.17826106 >>17826109
>>17826100
Ok but Poland should stop asking for gibs on the basis of being fellow Europeans then
Anonymous No.17826109 >>17826114
>>17826106
If the JEWSA pulls out of NATO so be it, but even Trunk has publicly stated that Poland is pulling its weight. You probably know that, and are simply lying because you hate the master race.
Anonymous No.17826114
>>17826109
I don't see where I claimed that I care what Trump says. It's common knowledge that Trump is bought out by Slavic and Jewish lobbies
Anonymous No.17826116 >>17826124 >>17826132 >>17826133 >>17826306
>>17825776 (OP)
Ever notice how whites are the only ones told they aren't allowed to collectively work together for their own good?

...yeah I noticed
Anonymous No.17826124 >>17826134
>>17826116
Racial collectivism is a good idea. But it doesn't work if one part of the supposed collective is actively working against other parts.
Anonymous No.17826132 >>17826134
>>17826116
>POOP SHIT FART frog
You should be culled from the white race. It would make us MUCH stronger. Worthless trash.
Anonymous No.17826133
>>17826116
It's because everybody else is culturally and historically irrelevant and white people could easily destroy the planet
Anonymous No.17826134
>>17826124
>it doesn't work if one part of the supposed collective is actively working against other parts
cool it with those antisemitic comments
>>17826132
brown
Anonymous No.17826202 >>17826287 >>17826306
>>17825848
You'll realize that a lot of white nationalists are sad stories who grew up in screwed up environments and were called stupid by their parents. They're told: You're an idiot, you'll never amount to anything, you'll be flipping burgers at McDonalds, etc. Some kind of frustration that the parents are dealing with is projected onto their kid, who suffers psychologically a result, becomes blocked from criticizing the in-group authority figures in his life, and then he goes on to project his own frustrations onto an eternal scapegoat (the Jews etc.).

A big part of white nationalism is the attraction to a romantic quest. Like you'll hear their admiration for Hitler is because he ~took on the whole world~ like he was slaying a dragon, and the image of him is really more of a romantic but also put-upon figure who had suffered intolerable wrongs, and they relate to that. Probably made worse if they grew up around black kids who bullied them (which is also more likely if they grew up in poverty).

People don't show any sympathy towards them. It's very rare that someone who's not a white nationalist says to them that "you're not a loser, stop calling yourself stupid." But the other white nationalist guys will listen to them. Also it makes them feel powerful. Other people are afraid of them and that feels really good.
Anonymous No.17826287
>>17826202
If I reworded this to make the same point for black people it would be laughed into oblivion, pathetic stance
Anonymous No.17826297
Honestly I have been disillusioned with the whole "white" thing ever since I had other wignat types argue to me that tartars are "white" or even "Europid". Really I don't see the point of identifying as such if it blurs the lines between Europeans with Asiatic Muslims from Siberia.
Anonymous No.17826306 >>17826309
>>17826116
Racial unity is a myth. Asian groups hate each other and don't have any solidarity. US blacks complain all the time about African immigrants and African immigrants do likewise.
>>17826202
This. There just marginalized men (usually with autism) who experience societal rejection, have a hard homelife and get sympathy from no one. They have experienced more hardships that are life ruining then compared to other groups who get sympathy for there struggles. Heck, even black autistic men get there victim card revoked; because autism is such a sympathy repellent. When everyone in your life shits on you; you'll join any group that praises you. Which most of the time are extremist groups.
Anonymous No.17826309 >>17826313 >>17826315 >>17828388
>>17826306
>Racial unity is a myth.
So is the idea that modern jews are a chosen people, but one idea is promoted while the other (white identity) is actively condemned. Odd, the double standard, isn't it?
Anonymous No.17826313
>>17826309
>modern jews are a chosen people
Pff, chosen for my black cock, maybe.
Anonymous No.17826315 >>17826326
>>17826309
Ashkenazim and Mizrahim hate each other. Secular jews have legally persecuted Haredim before. Jews don't have unity.
Anonymous No.17826326
>>17826315
You deliberately dodged the question... You must, if you are an honest person, acknowledge that jews acting collectively for their own good, promoting jewish identity, is not condemned in the way white identity is condemned. In fact, jewish identity is promoted heavily, as is black identity, and asian identity, and indian identity, and every single other kind of identity except one... white identity... for some reason white identity is the only identity which is actively suppressed, actively demonized.

Even if you will not admit it, anyone who is not a blind fool can see it for themselves.
Anonymous No.17826353 >>17826856 >>17828727
>>17825861
why are you in right wing spaces as someone who isnt right wing?
Anonymous No.17826516
>>17825928
Does the Russian actually respect the Saxon though?
Although I encourage you to draw your own conclusion on the Russian psyche, it's possible you've misinterpreted the relationship
Anonymous No.17826856 >>17828404
>>17826353
>right wing is when you hate niggers and jews
Anonymous No.17827772
>>17825895
So basically it's not true.
Anonymous No.17828388 >>17828411
>>17826309
>The idea that Odin and Thor are the true gods of the Aryan race who need to be venerated is a myth
>So is the idea that modern jews are a chosen people, but one idea is promoted while the other (Odinism) is actively condemned. Odd, the double standard, isn't it?
Anonymous No.17828403
>>17825859
>>Libertarians as a whole literally believed roads should not exist.
>They're right.
This. Abolish roads.
Anonymous No.17828404
>>17826856
You were referencing White nationalists... so yes..?
Anonymous No.17828411
>>17828388
>(Odinism) is actively condemned
Anonmous No.17828433 >>17828766
>>17825776 (OP)
>There's very little evidence dark-skinned people would have even ended up in Northern Europe
Ottomans, Moors, Huns.
They invade from literally every direction.

But the Europeans do too; everybody kills everybody.
Anonymous No.17828727
>>17826353
>4chan is supposed to be a hecking right-wing nazi website!
tourist detected
Anonymous No.17828766
>>17828433
Moors and Ottomans didn't reach Northern Europe. They were Mediterranean peoples who conquered other Mediterraneans