Thread 17827369

Hello whiskey farmers. It's me, the guy you voted for after he led a revolution against taxation.

Pay your fucking taxes or I will kill you.

>>17827369 (OP)
>It's me, the guy you voted for after he led a revolution against taxation.
Taxation without representation, retard.

>>17827369 (OP)
The Founding Fathers weren't against taxation, they were miffed they had little to no political influence in Britain despite paying taxes to the Crown.

>>17827394
they could see abolition of slavery on the horizon and chimped out to keep it

>>17827372
>imposes a system where 94% of people cannot vote
VGH... CHERRY TREE BOY...

>>17827416
Non whites and non-land-owning whites are not people.

>>17827422
are you of the 6% group, lad?

>>17827433
No. I'm black, which makes me a demi-God.

>>17827369 (OP)
>it was just about taxation
Not even plebbitors are this retarded. Never change /his/

>>17827491
What was it really about then cunt?

>>17827493
About ensuring a future where there would be a mcdonalds in every country and corn syrup in every meal

>>17827493
Ensuring BBC access to white women

>>17827416
>you have to let transients and dregs of society vote their way into your wallet and property
Nah. It was a good system. What you have now is a bastardized twisted version of democracy.

>lets the people kidnapping and beating tax collectors off with a warning
mmm based?

Washington was a swindler chiefly interested in his own profit. He never cared about the men whom who led into so many defeats. Small wonder he fell in with Hamilton and away from Jefferson, who actually cared about the self-government of the American people.

>>17827493
Their rights as Englishmen you retard

>17827852
>j*fferson the aristocrat who chose to employ niggers over white free men and never fought in a single battle in the Cause that gave the American people that self-government
This is your brain on amerishit propaganda

>>17827852
Jefferson was a psychopath and slave rapist.

>>17827369 (OP)
>lead a revolution over taxation without representation
>your elected reps have levied this tax righteously. Don't like it? Vote them out and get new reps to overturn it instead of fighting an armed rebellion

>>17828875
Cope

>>17828932
>lead a revolution over taxation
Why is the average user on this board so goddamn retarded?

>>17828953
>nnnooooo not muh heckin aristocrat miscegnator!!! He was heckin based!!!
Nigger never fought in a single battle in his life. At least Madison was too short and Adams too bald to be drafted, but Jefferson had no fucking excuse what-so-fucking-ever

>>17827372
Brutal

>>17827813
He was just a swindler who wanted to collect on those debts for himself.

Most underrated founding father? For me, it's William Whipple

>>17829041
Witherspoon, and it's not even close

The Revolution was never really about taxes, and even a Marxist materialist analysis will reveal this. The simple fact is that colonies exist to have their wealth extracted and transferred to the Imperial Core. A colony can either be prosperous and self-sufficient, or it can be profitable for the colonizer. It can never be both. America revolted, HAD to revolt, in order to preserve it's own well-being, For the same reason Britain HAD to oppress the colonies in order to make them worth the cost of maintaining them. It was a contradiction that could only be resolved with either Independence or the loss of American prosperity.
In truth Americans had long paid taxes for the upkeep of their governments and the running of their states, Britain had basically let the 13 colonies run themselves as their own independent nations for a century or more, and consequently had not done much for them outside of defending them in wartime. So you have to look at the taxes and acts the British imposed from how an American at the time saw them. Here you are already paying your taxes as lawfully enacted by your representative government (as is your right as an Englishman), all of a sudden some guy from the other side of the planet is saying you owe him money through several taxes the legitimate authorities for taxation (your State government) have not agreed to or even been consulted on. Add to the fact that these taxes fell most heavily on the lower classes, it does not seem a stretch for an American to see this as an overthrow of lawful government by a bunch of greedy British Aristocrats.

Stopped reading when I read the word Marxist 2bh

>>17829077
Incredibly retarded take as expected from a Marxist. By your logic collaboration is impossible because "it can only be profitable for party A or party B" therefore noone will ever collaborate and we will always be oogabooga cavemen. It's funny how only the furthest left Marxists and the furthest ancap libertarians believe humans are this incapable of collaboration

>>17829077
colonial taxes were 27 times lower than in britain

>>17829154
You don't start an empire to "collaborate" retard. Oh you think the British were just building colonies on the other side of the planet out of the goodness of their widdle hearts? Had the British wanted to "collaborate" they would have just traded with the Native Indians. Collaboration happens between equals, a colony is by definition not equal.

>>17829077
>ignore all historical documentation from contemporary sources
>post bullshit ideology instead
KEK

>>17829158
they still existed though and that's wrong

>>17830135
They enjoyed essentially no taxes, the new taxes imposed to pay for england's war would have been economically ruinous

>>17827422
>non-land-owning
Ownling land was invented essentially by the Normans in England as far as Anglo-Saxons are concerned

>>17830138
fake news

>>17830141
even faker news

>>17830196
You think the people on the frontier paid taxes? The whiskey tax was a misguided attempt at wealth extraction from people that had never paid taxes before by federalists. Naturally people on the frontier which enjoyed no infrastructure and were largely self reliant and had to deal with Indian raids themselves didn't think they owed anybody anything. Since there was no hard currency because we were in massive debt and it had all been recalled people on the frontier relied on booze as currency which could be shipped out of the hill country into the cities without spoiling.

Hamilton's attempt to begin funding his centralized state by taxing booze was a huge mistake

>>17827369 (OP)
Read the FULL Declaration of Independence and you’ll know the war wasn’t over taxation

Before the 20th century, excise taxes on distilled spirits were a major source of government revenue, thus the Whiskey Rebellion and all the moonshiner/revenuer clashes in American lore.