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Anonymous No.17828398 >>17828407 >>17828415 >>17828421 >>17828429 >>17828432 >>17828506 >>17828610 >>17828630 >>17830507 >>17831204 >>17831447 >>17831501 >>17831509 >>17833097 >>17833119 >>17833541
Is racism permitted in Christianity?
Anonymous No.17828407 >>17828422 >>17828544 >>17828696 >>17831374
>>17828398 (OP)
is anything expressly not permitted in Christianity?
hardmode: no reading into it, only explicit terms.
Anonymous No.17828415 >>17828429 >>17828515 >>17828577 >>17828658
>>17828398 (OP)
obviously it is, 2k years of white christians owning non white slaves seems to prove the point. However, "racism" is a concept that was invented within the last hundred years, before then you'd get laughed at for suggesting everyone should be treated like they aren't different.
Anonymous No.17828421
>>17828398 (OP)
>Is racism permitted in Christianity?
To pull a Jordan Peterson on you - it depends on what you mean by racism. Realizing that races exist? That should be fine. Realizing that there are minor differences between various groups? Shouldn't be a real issue. Making differences between white Christians and black Christians in theological terms? That's not correct.
Anonymous No.17828422 >>17828437
>>17828407
Being rich
Self defence
Not loving your neighbour as thyself
Anonymous No.17828429 >>17828519 >>17828630
>>17828398 (OP)
No.
>>17828415
Heretical
Anonymous No.17828432
>>17828398 (OP)
>All the stuff about pacifism and universalism
Ah yes, like those verses in... Oh wait. Oops! I'm so glad you're going to burn forever.
>Is racism permitted in Christianity?
Yes. Jesus was racist.
Anonymous No.17828437 >>17828499 >>17828549
>>17828422
>Being rich
>Self defence
Every time you lie about the Bible, those flames get hotter. Keep going! This is great!
Anonymous No.17828499 >>17828509
>>17828437
Get saved for real.
Anonymous No.17828506 >>17828516 >>17828630
>>17828398 (OP)
No. If you will not bow to him, you are a goat.
Go be with your father, the Serpent
Anonymous No.17828509
>>17828499
https://www.enjoyhell.com
Anonymous No.17828515 >>17828552 >>17828617
>>17828415
>2k years of white christians owning non white slaves seems to prove the point
The part where Christian Romans enslaved pagan white people doesn't count because it contradicts Christogenea fags, apparently.
Anonymous No.17828516
>>17828506
>Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
>Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
>Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
It's talking about (You). Enjoy Hell.
Anonymous No.17828519 >>17828528 >>17828544 >>17830021
>>17828429
>Heretical
no, that is just reality. instead of trying to rewrite history so that it conforms to your ideas about right and wrong, you should happily defend how the religion changed to conform to modern sensibilities.
Anonymous No.17828528 >>17828537
>>17828519
>no, that is just /pol/tranny cope
Ftfy
Anonymous No.17828537 >>17828544 >>17828552
>>17828528
okay, continue with your fantasy then... but that is all it will ever be.
Anonymous No.17828544 >>17828554
>>17828407
Usury.
>>17828519
>>17828537
ESL retard
Anonymous No.17828549 >>17828561
>>17828437
Easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle
Turn the other cheek
Live by the sword, die by the sword
Etc.
>Incoming cope
Anonymous No.17828552 >>17828559
>>17828537
See>>17828515
Anonymous No.17828554
>>17828544
>ESL
bearing false witness is a sin, as you know
Anonymous No.17828559
>>17828552
unsubstantiated claim, so ignored
Anonymous No.17828561 >>17828567
>>17828549
>Easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle
You seem to forget the part where it says it is impossible for anyone to be saved without God. Although let's be real, you're intentionally omitting it because you hate God and want to shred apart his word to spread lies. I can't wait to hear your screams.
Anonymous No.17828562 >>17828565
>17828559
>Christian Romans enslaving pagans in Europe is an unsubstantiated claim
Anonymous No.17828565 >>17828569
>>17828562
>metly
like clockwork
Anonymous No.17828567 >>17828571
>>17828561
Yeah, and what is it God the Son tells the rich young man who wants to follow him in the parable this quote comes from what he must do if he wants to follow Christ?
Pro tip: it’s not keeping any of his money
Anonymous No.17828569 >>17828574
>>17828565
>Christian identity spammer is retarded
like clockwork
Anonymous No.17828571 >>17828593
>>17828567
You're a proven liar. Enjoy Hell. It's packed FULL of shitskinned Indians by the way, so that should be fun.
Anonymous No.17828573 >>17828630
When you think about it the religion e-LARP fags actually want is basically just Judaism.
Looking for a Biblically based religion with a ruthless application of Old Testament law, where being rich is good, where violence can be holy and ethnic segregation is scripturally justified? Yeah that’s called Judaism and it’s the religion Jesus vigorously condemned.
Anonymous No.17828574 >>17828582 >>17830631
>>17828569
it is for freedom that Christ has set us free, therefore do not accept any yoke of slavery (applied to whites)

slaves, obey your masters in everything because obedience to your master is obedience to God (applied to non whites)

The teachings of the New Testament, they only can make sense according to the correct interpretation.
Anonymous No.17828577 >>17828588
>>17828415
>before then you'd get laughed at for suggesting everyone should be treated like they aren't different.
so why do you fags get so butthurt about "antiwhiteness". After all, you should be treated that way for being different.
Anonymous No.17828582 >>17828588
>>17828574
>it doesn't apply because...uh....I hate niggers
Amazing. Christogenea troons demand the floor to speak and this is what they enlighten the board with.
Anonymous No.17828588 >>17828594
>>17828577
one is condemned (white identity) while all other forms are endorsed enthusiastically. I care not personally, but you can not defend the double standard unless by admitting you are everything you despise.
>>17828582
your anger is about history, the way it was, not the way it is. be glad it is no longer that way
Anonymous No.17828593 >>17828627 >>17833096
>>17828571
Is this what Christianity is for you? The religion where covetousness and violence are okay and it’s really just all about gleefully fantasising about people you don’t like burning for eternity?
And bad news, bro: there are also shit skinned Indians in heaven. If you’re searching for an ethnically segregated afterlife join your local synagogue
Anonymous No.17828594 >>17828599 >>17828623 >>17828664
>>17828588
>one is condemned (white identity
No it isn't. Your definition of "white identity" is just killing niggers. Nobody cares about your skin color or your culture.
Anonymous No.17828599 >>17828605
>>17828594
>No it isn't.
It is, white pride is not encouraged. White collective action is not encouraged. You can deny it, but by doing so you make yourself seem very foolish and ignorant.
Anonymous No.17828605 >>17828611
>>17828599
>God said niggers should be slaves and Jesus only came for White people
Idk man, that doesn't sound like Christianity.
>REEE WHY DO YOU HATE WHITE PEOPLE
Anonymous No.17828610 >>17828630 >>17828938
>>17828398 (OP)
We're all equally descendants of Adam and Eve
Anonymous No.17828611 >>17828617
>>17828605
If you can not honestly face history and be critical of the parts of it you do not like then that is a weakness in your character that you should work to improve. Trying to rewrite history is not a viable path forward for you, and being overly emotional and belligerent about it isn't a viable argumentative strategy either.
Anonymous No.17828617 >>17828621
>>17828611
>If you can not honestly face history
See >>17828515
Anonymous No.17828621 >>17828650
>>17828617
unsubstantiated claim, so ignored
Anonymous No.17828623 >>17828635 >>17828650
>>17828594
You are being willfully dishonest about White hatred perpetrated in Western civilizations. Just recently the Democrats wouldn't be desperate to win back the White man if their prevailing ideology already wasn't alienating and attacking them. And that's just one example

yhyte leftwingers are known for their self hatred and they seek the desctruction of their own race.
Anonymous No.17828627 >>17828639
>>17828593
>The religion where covetousness and violence are okay and it’s really just all about gleefully fantasising about people you don’t like burning for eternity?
Nope.
> If you’re searching for an ethnically segregated afterlife join your local synagogue
Small problem: Jews go to Hell.
Anonymous No.17828630 >>17828938
>>17828398 (OP)
Yes. Jesus taught that it is right and proper for a man to look after his own race, his own people, his own nation, his own ethnos first before looking after other races in the same way that it is right and proper for a man to feed his children first before feeding a dog with the scraps.

read Matthew 15:22-28

>>17828429
>>17828506
>>17828573
Wrong
>>17828610
Doesn't change the fact that Jesus taught that ethnocentrism aka putting your people first aka racism is a good thing.
wrong
Anonymous No.17828635 >>17828640 >>17828706
>>17828623
>muh leftists out of nowhere
Hahahaha there it is. The polfag admits he doesn't believe in God. It's all just another front in his gay ass political culture war.
Anonymous No.17828639 >>17828651 >>17828660
>>17828627
So stop imitating them then
Anonymous No.17828640 >>17828647 >>17828658
>>17828635
>he said while trying to use christianity as a vehicle to push his modern ideas about racial equality

ironic
Anonymous No.17828647
>>17828640
Races are themselves a modern idea
Anonymous No.17828650 >>17828659 >>17828706
>>17828621
>I have no argument so I'll ignore it
Kek
>>17828623
Why are you trannies still whining about the democrats? Youre half a year into Trump's presidency. I thought you "won".
Anonymous No.17828651 >>17828660 >>17828674
>>17828639
"christians" took over the rights and role of the old covenant jews, the jews are divested of their authority
Anonymous No.17828658 >>17828676
>>17828415
>>17828640
>racism didn't exist in the past
>but also people acknowledged race and treated eachother differently because of it
You might actually be the most retarded stormnigger who ever posted on /his/.
Anonymous No.17828659 >>17830451
>>17828650
>I'll ignore it
I will ignore unsubstantiated claims that you make, just as I wouldn't give credence to you claiming pink unicorns live in the moon or any other such gibberish you care to concoct.
Anonymous No.17828660 >>17828742
>>17828651
True, and irrelevant.
>>17828639
>So stop imitating them then
I'm not. I don't reject Jesus Christ. Who are you to criticize me anyway? Are you even saved?
Anonymous No.17828664 >>17828678
>>17828594
you are a liar
Anonymous No.17828674 >>17828680 >>17828697 >>17828709
>>17828651
Damn, I guess we better adopt the moral teachings of Jesus Christ then or we will go to hell like the Jews. This includes such ideas as, you can’t be rich and go to heaven, you should never use violence even in self-defense, and that you should treat all people with love and respect.
Anonymous No.17828676 >>17828681
>>17828658
>racism didn't exist in the past
the concept of "racism" as you understand it has a negative connotation which is a new spin on looking at outgroups

there was no negative connotation applied to seeing outgroups as different than the ingroup before the concept of "racism" was created

I'll let you speculate as to the reasons why such an idea was created...
Anonymous No.17828678 >>17828712 >>17828795 >>17828796
>>17828664
>a bunch of trannies writing articles on huffpost means I'm LITERALLY OPPRESSED
YWNBARJ
Anonymous No.17828680
>>17828674
>Damn, I guess we better adopt the moral teachings of Jesus Christ then or we will go to hell like the Jews.
Never seen a clearer profession of works salvation in my life. Have fun in the burn pit.
Anonymous No.17828681
>>17828676
>I'll let you speculate as to the reasons why such an idea was created.
Because people were tired of /pol/trannies like you trying to kill and rape their children for not being White.
Anonymous No.17828696
>>17828407
Christianity doesn't really have laws. It suggests cause and effect in that doing this or that may make you go to hell, but it's not clear and it doesn't call for preventing you from doing it or punishing you for it in real life.
Anonymous No.17828697 >>17828742
>>17828674
>never use violence even in self-defense
violence is not forbidden, how else is his body to ensure its eternal life when faced with those who would stand in the way of the Father's will? In the Son's name, in God's name, Christians have license for any level of violence if such violence is in alignment with God's will for his people.
Anonymous No.17828706 >>17828719
>>17828635
The left, which is the dominant socio-political-cultural prevailing thought in Western civilizations, is the core of anti White hatred in Western civizaltions

So anyone deflecting or defending it is clearly a leftoid of some type
>>17828650
>leftist used their sacred trannies as an insult in a poor attempt to fit in
Anonymous No.17828709 >>17828714 >>17828742
>>17828674
You are twisting the Lord's teachings with lies because you have demonic intent to spread evil and to persuade others that it is good to allow evil to be spread.

>you should never use violence even in self-defense
Wrong. Jesus never said that. "If some one slaps you , turn the other cheek" refers to insults, not if someone commits severe violence against you.
>you should treat all people with love and respect.
You should love they neighbour, which means you should defend your neighbour from enemies persecuting your neighbour using force if need be. You should also love your enemy, which means you should stop your enemy from continuing to commit evil, even if you have to use force.
Anonymous No.17828712
>>17828678
You are literally proven wrong because such articles are allowed to flourish. Its tolerated, encouraged, and supported

Write an article in mainstream news about how much you hate Africans then tell me what happens
Anonymous No.17828714
>>17828709
>you have demonic intent to spread evil and to persuade others that it is good to allow evil to be spread.
Yep. It also doesn't even believe in Jesus, it's just trying to waste our time.
Anonymous No.17828719 >>17828732
>>17828706
You don't know what leftism is. That word just just means "when I cant kill niggers" to mentally ill fags like you.
Anonymous No.17828732
>>17828719
There are two leftists. Leftist in the historical socio-political contxt, and the leftist in that a member of the left. Synamous with leftoid. There isn't really any point in differentiating the two because they both mean the same thing

Liberals, leftists, socialists, progressives, communists are all part of the left. They are in the same family tree and share many core beliefs and intersect with each other

>inb4 but
I did not say liberals are communists. I said they are in the same family as communists.

>inb4 but
Both liberals and communists kneel for BLM
Anonymous No.17828742 >>17828746 >>17828754 >>17828817 >>17830978
>>17828660
For truly I tell you if your righteousness does not exceed that of the Pharisees then you shall not enter the kingdom of heaven.
>>17828697
The kingdom of God is not of this world, this is literally what Jesus told the Jews that had the same erroneous belief as you that we must violently cling to this life and the building of a Messianic kingdom here on Earth - Earth is temporary.
>>17828709
Okay and where does the New Testament say any of this? It doesn’t, you literally just made it up because you don’t like the actual moral content of Jesus’ teachings so you use headcanon to water them down into something that better resembles Judaism but more casual. Christianity is unapologetically apocalyptic and ascetic, if you don’t like it find a different religion.
Anonymous No.17828746 >>17828751
>>17828742
>of this world
if his people were of this world the world would love them but because they are not, the world seeks always their destruction. He came for their salvation, those not of this world, those of God.
Anonymous No.17828751
>>17828746
Right, and that’s why it’s pointless to talk about using violence to attain eternal life. Because the eternal life Jesus is talking about is in heaven, and heaven is filled with martyrs, not warriors. This isn’t Odinism or Islam.
Anonymous No.17828754 >>17828763 >>17830592 >>17831360
>>17828742
>The kingdom of God
Heaven, is among his people, so he said. As is God any place they gather in his name. Are you sure you even are familiar with His teachings?
Anonymous No.17828763 >>17828767
>>17828754
Are you?
John 18:36
> Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
Read the Bible sometime, you’ll learn some things.
Anonymous No.17828767 >>17828779
>>17828763
his kingdom came to be exactly as he foretold, as was prophesied
Anonymous No.17828779 >>17828787
>>17828767
His kingdom always was before Earth ever came to be, as it’s the Kingdom of His Father. Now are you going to cite scripture or are you going to present your own politically motivated ideas in quasi gospel sounding language as if you’re pretending they’re scripture?
Matthew 7:21
> Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Anonymous No.17828787 >>17828797
>>17828779
>His kingdom always was before Earth ever came to be, as it’s the Kingdom of His Father.

You conflate the prefall kingdom and the coming of heaven to earth, either deliberately or from ignorance. In either case, nothing you have said contradicts what he said regarding the matter; that the heavenly kingdom is found among his people. As for your other verse, many will curse their birth and be shut out, because his are not of this world.
Anonymous No.17828795 >>17830423
>>17828678
You claimed that white identity was not condemned and that nobody cared about white culture.

Now that you've been shown that infact mainstream media regularly pathologises and condemns white identity and white culture

So after your initial lie was proven false , you instantly shift the goal posts and change your claim to
>ok sure maybe the mainstream media encourages resentment and hostility towards white people and white culture, but you aren't oppressed.

This is also false because oppression means cruel or unjust treatment, and white people are treated unjustly because they are for example systematically to unfair higher standards to get into universities than blacks and hispanics due to affirmative action.
With the result that a white student from a lower class or middle class home with an SAT score of 1550 has a much lower chance of getting into an elite university than an upper class, black student who was sent to an expensive, elite, private highschool with an SAT score of 1550. This practice has been going on for 50 years and continues to occur in elite universities
https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1937644999790985324
https://nyunews.com/news/2025/03/22/nyu-website-hacked-data-leak/

This along with widespread DEI policies which discriminate against white people in terms of hiring, promotion and compensation show that it is actually normalised and endemic in society for white people to be treated unfairly and that anti-white hostility, resentment and mistreatment is being normalised and growing over time.
https://x.com/realchrisrufo/status/1933213827296047461 pic related
Anonymous No.17828796 >>17830423
>>17828678
https://x.com/SkepResCenter/status/1898470273323839790/photo/1
pic related
Anonymous No.17828797 >>17828803 >>17828808
>>17828787
Jesus explicitly says that heaven is not on Earth, I showed you exactly where in the gospels he said this chapter and verse. You have no real response to this, you just continue presenting your own opinions and pretending they’re things Jesus said. How are you okay with that? Praying for you.
Anonymous No.17828803 >>17828809
>>17828797
>not upon the earth
contradicted by his words in Luke 17:21
Anonymous No.17828808 >>17828813
>>17828797
What moves between the upper and lower realm, not but the angels... but what are they? questions, questions.
Anonymous No.17828809 >>17828812
>>17828803
> 21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
This verse literally says that the kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom and not a literal place on Earth. I like how you didn’t actually quote it, almost like you knew it doesn’t say what you wanted it to say.
Anonymous No.17828812 >>17828821
>>17828809
>within
amongst, the spirit is within and it is of God
Anonymous No.17828813 >>17828819
>>17828808
I only accept scriptural citations, not riddles.
Anonymous No.17828817 >>17828839
>>17828742
Where does the new testament say that you are never allowed to use force to defend yourself?
It doesn't. It doesn’t, you literally just made it up because you don’t like the actual moral content of Jesus’ teachings so you use headcanon to water them down into something that better resembles "progressivism".

you ask where Jesus says to defend people from harm and prevent them from committing evil? That's what love means.
You might as well ask where the bible says to wish for the best for people.
Sounds like you don't understand what love is because you are a satanically influenced individual whose true religion is "progressivism" and only pretends to follow Christianity in as much as it can be used to support your leftoid prog agenda.

For example , you probably can't bring yourself to admit that Jesus taught that ethnocentrism aka racism - looking after your people first before foreigners is good and proper in the same way it is good and proper for a man to feed his children first before feeding the dog with the scraps.
Matthew 15:22-28
Anonymous No.17828819
>>17828813
And what is that but breath of the Spirit in alignment with the Father's will upon the page...
Anonymous No.17828821 >>17828825
>>17828812
Which translation is this?
Because the Greek, Entos, inherently means within/inside/interior. Not amongst, not around, not outside, not without. There is no credible translation where this verse allows for a spatial, Earthly interpretation of the Kingdom of God. It’s a spiritual kingdom, and as Jesus tells us in John it is not of this world.
Anonymous No.17828825 >>17828842 >>17831441
>>17828821
>within/inside/interior
Yes, interior to his people that form the vessel collectively.
Anonymous No.17828829 >>17828834
jewish supremacist rabbi yeshua says its okay to call gentiles dogs and only deserving of scraps
Anonymous No.17828834 >>17828848
>>17828829
Jesus the man is ethnocentric and loves his own people first and teaches that this is right and proper meaning that he teaches that ethnocentrism is good and that all peoples should be ethnocentric and look after their own people first then give the scraps to foreigners.

matthew 15:22-28

your evil attempts to twist these beautiful verses only show your twisted evil heart.
Anonymous No.17828839 >>17828905 >>17828907 >>17829453
>>17828817
Matthew 5:39
But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Also, I hate Earthly politics, as any Christian should. But I’ll remind you progressives are major league warhawks that froth at the mouth at the prospect of instigating wars with Russia and still seethe to this day about withdrawal from Afghanistan. As long as it results in more feminism, sodomy and usury progressives will salute the flag and support the troops until the cows come home (flags are idols and the troops are going to hell)
> That's what love means
And where in the gospels does it say that? Nowhere, you made it up. What the gospel actually says is that you shouldn’t resist evil and that you shouldn’t fear death because eternal life awaits in the hereafter. Or have you no faith?
> looking after your people first before foreigners is good and proper in the same way it is good and proper for a man to feed his children first before feeding the dog with the scraps.
Matthew 15:22-28
Pro tip: the ethnic group Jesus is calling God’s children are the Jews. This verse, taken as you’re taking it, is not endorsing subjective racism but universal Jewish supremacy. Fortunately it was only a test of this woman’s faith.
Anonymous No.17828842 >>17828869
>>17828825
That would be of this world which is the opposite of what it says in John. In fact that’s not even what it says in Luke which implies it can be experienced individually.
Anonymous No.17828848 >>17831495 >>17831495
>>17828834
But that’s the opposite of what the gentile woman he’s talking to does. She doesn’t counter with Samaritan nationalism, she accepts her subordinate position to the Jewish herrenvolk and Jesus praises her for her ethnic prostration before her massa.
Anonymous No.17828869 >>17828880 >>17828884 >>17830429
>>17828842
>is the opposite of what it says in John
it isn't
>that’s not even what it says in Luke
it is

You have fallen for the modern heresy about his people not being the body, and their kingdom not being heaven come to earth.
Anonymous No.17828880 >>17828884
>>17828869
>nuh uh
Okay so how come the disciples all died martyrs deaths and there was never a Bar Kokhba style Christian uprising against the Romans?
Turns out ancient true Christianity legitimately is just apocalyptic, pacifist and ascetic. It’s shit like just-war-theory, prosperity theology and metaphorical eschatology that is modern.
Anonymous No.17828884 >>17828894
>>17828880
>how come the disciples all died martyrs deaths
because that >>17828869 is what they believed
>pacifist
I see now... you are pushing the castration agenda.
Anonymous No.17828894
>>17828884
>A plain and literal interpretation of the numerous moments in the gospels where Jesus condemns violence, even in self défense, is “the castration agenda”
As I say, the religion you’re searching for is called Judaism. I’d unironically say I respect Jews more than these Satanic pseudo-Christians because at least they have the mental fortitude to actually chop their own foreskins off and stop eating pork, whatever this abomination is would be better called Diet Judaism: easy-mode. Though Roman Catholicism rolls off the tongue slightly better.
Anyway goodnight and God bless.
Anonymous No.17828905 >>17829763 >>17829783 >>17829904
>>17828839
that's just saying that whoever slaps you on the right cheek , turn the other cheek. A slap on the cheek is a type of insult, it's saying to resist insults. It's not saying that you should let a person seriously injure you and are not allowed to defend yourself . Infact the loving thing to do is to prevent prevent people from committing evil , since jesus tells you to love thy neighbour and love your enemy.

>> That's what love means
>And where in the gospels does it say that?

the gospels don't define the meaning of every word they use , lol. You might as well ask where the bible defines that father (πατηρ) means the male parent.
>And where in the gospels does it say that father means the male parent?? Nowhere, you made it up.
> you shouldn’t resist evil
only in the context of insults like slaps on the cheek
Jesus himself resisted evil physically when he prevented the money changers from continuing their evil deeds by driving them out of the temple Matthew 21:12. He did it out of love for them to prevent them from continuing to sin.

Jesus says that anyone who does not have a sword should buy one and that having two swords is enough in Luke 22:36-39
If Jesus intended that Christians should never defend themselves or others out of love and to stop the evil of their enemies out of love for their enemies then he would have told people not to own swords at all.

So neither Jesus' own example nor his other verbal teachings support your interpretation.
Your interpretation of christianity is designed to allow evil to run amock which Jesus did not do.
a truly evil and satanic twisting of christianity

>you shouldn’t fear death because eternal life awaits in the hereafter. Or have you no faith?
Loving your neighbour and so protecting them from harm and loving your enemy and so preventing them from continuing to do evil are acts of faith and do not require fearing death.
Anonymous No.17828907 >>17829789
>>17828839
>Pro tip: the ethnic group Jesus is calling God’s children are the Jews. This verse, taken as you’re taking it, is not endorsing subjective racism but universal Jewish supremacy. Fortunately it was only a test of this woman’s faith.
Wrong. Jesus says that the reason he refuses the woman's request initially is because the Israelites are his people and it would be inappropriate for him to give charity to foreigners in the same way it would be inappropriate for a father to give his children's food to the dog.

The woman agrees with this but extends Jesus' reasoning by saying that says that it is good for the dog to eat the scraps i.e. that after the father has fed his children, (looked after his people) then left over charity can be given to foreigners.
In response to this Jesus approves what the woman just said by saying that she has "great faith" because of what she just said, i.e. her statement is a great statement which aligns with the faith of Christianity.

So yes Jesus's teachings are endorsing ethnocentrism for everyone because the reasoning that that both Jesus and the woman both appeal to is the greater obligation a father has for his children relative to those who are not his children which is a general obligation that all humans share.

So clearly Jesus teaches that it is good and proper to be ethnocentric and look after your people first in the same way and for the same reason that it is good and proper for a man to feed his children first before feeding the dog.
Meaning that Jesus teaches that racism is good and proper.
Anonymous No.17828938 >>17828985
>>17828610
>>17828630
>Thus the unity of the whole human race becomes immediately apparent: We are all from only one earth. There are not different kinds of “blood and soil,” to use a Nazi slogan. There are not fundamentally different kinds of human beings, as the myths of numerous religions used to say and as some worldviews of our own day also assert. There are not different categories and races in which human beings are valued differently. We are all one humanity, formed from God’s one earth. It is precisely this thought that is at the very heart of the creation account and of the whole Bible. In the face of all human division and human arrogance, whereby one person sets himself or herself over and against another, humanity is declared to be one creation of God from his one earth. What is said at the beginning is then repeated after the Flood: in the great genealogy of Genesis 10 the same thought reappears—namely, that there is only one humanity in the many human beings. The Bible says a decisive “no” to all racism and to every human division.
>"In the Beginning..." by Pope Benedict XVI
Anonymous No.17828985
>>17828938
>appealling to some anti-pope.
lol
>we're all children of God and descendants of Adam and Eve... therefore the tower of babel never happened and different nations/ethnos do not exist
dumb, heretical boomer take.

the fact that all humans are descendants of adam and Eve doesn't refute the fact that Jesus clearly taught that ethnocentrism aka racism i.e. looking after your own people/nation/ethnos first before foreigners is good and proper in the same way a father feeding his kids first before the dog is good and proper.

matthew 15:21-28

None of his bloviating refutes this
Anonymous No.17829453
>>17828839
>Pro tip: the ethnic group Jesus is calling God’s children are the Jews.
You mean in Matthew 15:22-28? He also called Jacob a worm in Isaiah 41:14, that seems worse.

Maybe he just didn't want to give worm food to non-worms?
Anonymous No.17829763 >>17829771 >>17829779 >>17831460 >>17831465 >>17831471 >>17831474 >>17831481
>>17828905
> Infact the loving thing to do is to prevent prevent people from committing evil
Jesus literally says “I say to you that ye not resist evil”. There is no scriptural basis for your interpretation, and it’s reliant on not reading the actual text.
> the gospels don't define the meaning of every word they use
So you don’t have a scriptural basis for how love is actually when you use violence, got it.
> only in the context of insults like slaps on the cheek
Except the verse begins by contradicting the traditional Hebrew law of an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, which refers to literal injury. And instead tells us instead to turn the other cheek. The message, very obviously as the early church fathers attested to, is one of absolute pacifism. Not whatever watered down Paganism liberalism this is.
> Matthew 21:12
Jesus himself also told people that He’s God and let them worship Him. Because it’s true. This does not mean we can also claim to be God, because we’re explicitly told that would be blasphemy. Jesus has authority that we don’t have, hence why he explicitly tells us not to resist evil when he obviously sends millions to hell everyday.
> If Jesus intended that Christians should never defend themselves or others out of love and to stop the evil of their enemies out of love for their enemies then he would have told people not to own swords at all.
Except Peter literally did try to use one of the very swords mentioned in that verse against the Roman authorities and Jesus rebuked him for it. The disciples literally ask him if they’re not to use the swords and his answer, explicitly, is no. All of this happens in the same chapter, Luke 22: 49-51
Why did they need swords then? Same reason they needed a coin purse, same reason Jesus had to enter Jerusalem on an ass. It was a fulfilment of prophecy that the messiah be found with brigands. Hence why 2 swords are enough for 13 people.
Anonymous No.17829771 >>17829809
>>17829763
>absolute pacifism
your interpretation is a modern heresy, completely out of alignment with how it has been understood for the last 2k years. Tossing jews into bonfires and launching crusades were the norm, you are pushing a corruption.
Anonymous No.17829779
>>17829763
NTA
I completely agree with what you're writing here and I'm also a little puzzled about people's copes about turning the other cheek (sometimes even by legit theologians). But don't you think that violence in protecting your family is permitted? A perfect man sells all his posessions but a family man is worse than an unbeliever if he doesn't provide for his family. I think the same would apply to violence - a perfect man suffers evil in prayer and forgiveness but a family man is worse than an unbeliever if he lets his kids get threatened.
Anonymous No.17829783 >>17831483
>>17828905
> Your interpretation of christianity is designed to allow evil to run amock which Jesus did not do.
Except Jesus lived in the time of the Roman Empire, quite possibly the most Satanic, evil state that ever existed. With open demon worship, sodomy, and oppression of the righteous. Rivalled only by ancient Babylon, modern liberal democracy, and the Papacy. And yet neither Jesus, nor his disciples, nor their disciples, ever took arms against it. All of them went to heaven as martyrs. It was the Jews who were constantly resistant and militantly rising against the Roman authorities because their religion is of this world.
> and do not require fearing death.
But it does. Because it’s entirely motivated by anxiety about this world and this life which is inherently fated to be temporary anyway. If you actually had faith you’d know that in short order this entire material society and all the sinners that dwell in it are going to be destroyed and cast into hell. Our mission is to separate ourselves from it and unburden ourselves of sin in preparation for Christ’s kingdom. What you’re talking about isn’t Christ’s kingdom, it’s a Biblically motivated political ideology, that’s Bar Kokhba’s kingdom and it too is doomed to be destroyed along with all other Earthly princes - as the medieval Catholic Church, the Lutheran princes, the Ethiopian empire, and every other state that tried to turn Christianity into a vehicle of power found out the hard way. They were already gripped by Satan’s lies from the minute they started believing the same kind of nonsense you do. Righteous mennonites, quakers, anabaptists and the like on the other hand will persist until the end of days.
Anonymous No.17829789 >>17829791 >>17831488 >>17831492
>>17828907
So, you agree. Jesus, God, says the Jews are his children. He came for them alone. And gentiles are dogs that can only receive help when they’ve accepted their inherent inferiority to Jews.
Yeah, I guess that is very racist. Not in the way you wish it was though.
Anonymous No.17829791
>>17829789
John 8:44, Jesus speaking
>jews are the lying spawn of the devil

Any Christian who supports jews is anti-christ.
Anonymous No.17829809 >>17829818
>>17829771
Okay so how come all the disciples died as pacifist martyrs and there was never any militant Christian uprising against Rome like the Pharisees messianic expectations we obsessed with (and indeed, historically attempted more than once).
Fact is, real Christianity is pacifist. The crusading, human-immolating medieval church you’re worshipping is the Satanic corruption. Created by the Roman Empire as a tool for Earthly dominion, used as a weapon to oppress the righteous, and now reduced in modern times to a sock puppet for globohomo that will say how faggotry is actually okay, Jews don’t need Jesus to go to heaven, and how liberal democracy is actually le good. Because the Pope of Rome is, was, and always will be the whore of Babylon that makes a perverted mockery of Christ’s teachings. If you liked what he did to the money lenders in the temple you’re going to love what he’s got in store for these faggot pedophiles.
Anonymous No.17829818 >>17829825 >>17829829
>>17829809
The belief, the correct belief, is all that is required for the revolution. People were killed for having that belief, including them. That belief, did in the end, win out. Well... until people stopped believing it, and started believing other things that aren't it.
Anonymous No.17829825 >>17829831
>>17829818
which is why the asshat jews and shills are always desperate to try and tell you all their bullshit about what they want you to think Christianity is about. They rightfully fear a revival of true christian belief.
Anonymous No.17829829 >>17829832
>>17829818
But it will not win until the end of days. Every step of Christian history from Jesus’ ministry until now is marked by constant persecution, oppression and matyrdom. I see many Christians on /his/ imagining a golden age from Constantine until Vatican 2. There was nothing golden about it, it was just the same old Satanic
Whoredom now wearing the mask of the anti-Christ. Even at the peak of le hecking based tradcath Europa they were burning righteous Christians alive, practicing simony, worshipping idols, practicing usury. They were an Abomination. What we see today is the world such a system created. Actual Christians are still doing just fine in their separate communities, as the gospels command us to build.
If you find yourself suffering in the secular world, then get out of it, that world isn’t for us.
Anonymous No.17829831 >>17829835
>>17829825
So which church is it you go to?
Anonymous No.17829832 >>17830062
>>17829829
>But it will not win until the end of days
it won, endured for about 1500 years, and then fell off. You want to see it come back, it will eventually.
Anonymous No.17829835 >>17829881
>>17829831
I'm a member of a Catholic parish, but there is only one "church" and I don't endorse anything but the Truth.
Anonymous No.17829881 >>17829909
>>17829835
So not only are you in an idolatrous anti-church, the idolatrous anti-church you’re in wouldn’t even agree with your paganised martial interpretation of Christianity anyway. Kek
Anonymous No.17829904
>>17828905
>MUH 6 MILLION WHIPS
Nigger, Jesus literally let himself be brutally tortured and executed unjustly by evil men as an example of God's love
Anonymous No.17829909 >>17830017 >>17830044
>>17829881
>paganised martial interpretation
You are a liar, and lie knowingly. You are bound by history which you can not change, history which crucifies your lies upon the cross of truth.
Anonymous No.17830017 >>17830021
>>17829909
>history
In time every modern church blasphemy will be a tradition validated by history too. Dumb argument. In fact, why aren't you liberal as it's been the ideal of Western civilization for 300 years?
Anonymous No.17830021
>>17830017
answered here >>17828519
Anonymous No.17830044 >>17830062
>>17829909
The history of the pagan whoredom that worshipped idols, sold the papacy to the highest bidder, executed believers, molested and made eunuchs of boys, had its own usurious banks and ultimately submitted wholesale to modern liberal ideology? That history?
Yeah, I think that history shows that Catholicism has always been a satanic counterfeit of actual Christianity, because the early church and righteous Protestant movements did none of this shit. Obviously, as it contradicts the gospels at every step. You don’t want to follow Christ, you want to LARP
Anonymous No.17830052
>jesus wanted you to have a sword
>he whipped some merchants
>then jews killed him
>the end
Anonymous No.17830062 >>17830287
>>17830044
answered here >>17829832
Anonymous No.17830287
>>17830062
But that didn’t answer anything, that’s just “nuh uh”ing anyone pointing out the fact that the Roman church from Constantine to Vatican 2 was about as faithful to the actual Gospel it’s modern, liberalised continuation. Which is to say not at all.
>Holy wars
>Idolatry
>Indulgences
>Usury
>Sodomy
>Obscene wealth
There’s nothing apostolic about any of this. It’s literally a multibillion international conglomerate led by a blinged out homo that bought his office in a golden castle decorated with idols which waged wars of conquest and violent inquisitions against fellow Christians. No wonder the gates of hell prevailed against it, it was always Satanic.
Anonymous No.17830423
>>17828795
>>17828796
>twatter links
You're a walking stereotype kek
Anonymous No.17830426
Yes

against the gentiles
Anonymous No.17830429 >>17830436
>>17828869
>heresy about his people not being the body,
Tf is this supposed to mean? It's paganistic gibberish.
Anonymous No.17830436 >>17830525 >>17831105
>>17830429
Christians collectively form the living body of God upon the earth.
Anonymous No.17830451 >>17830464
>>17828659
The vast majority of slaves were white slavs. That's literally where the word slave comes from.
Anonymous No.17830464 >>17830564
>>17830451
>chinky mongols are white
debatable
Anonymous No.17830507 >>17830518
>>17828398 (OP)
>There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
So no.
Anonymous No.17830518 >>17831089
>>17830507
>larping as a Galatian
>implying everyone is Galatian
Anonymous No.17830525 >>17830536
>>17830436
christians are also called the bride of christ

so yeah, you're a tranny lol
Anonymous No.17830536 >>17830558
>>17830525
Yeah, his people are worthy... unlike you.
Anonymous No.17830558 >>17830574 >>17830576
>>17830536
worthy of what? being screwed by a cosmic rabbi?

can you fulfill a single promise he made to you in the bible?

why don't you move Mt everest to Washington DC in the next 10 minutes? Rabbi yeshua said it's easy if even have the most miniscule faith
Anonymous No.17830564
>>17830464
>non sequitur to avoid addressing the subject
Classic
Anonymous No.17830574 >>17830582
>>17830558
>worthy of what?
To form the living body of God upon the earth. do you have severe mental problems or something? I told you that literally one post ago.
Anonymous No.17830576 >>17830581 >>17830582
>>17830558
He's saying that God hates niggers and only loves White people.
Anonymous No.17830581 >>17830631 >>17831105
>>17830576
I didn't say that, but now that you mention it... that does make a lot of sense. You should tell more people about your theory.
Anonymous No.17830582 >>17830592 >>17830618
>>17830574
>To form the living body of God upon the earth

Jesus never said anything of the sort. This is pauline doctrine

>>17830576
Move Mt everest
Anonymous No.17830592 >>17831360
>>17830582
>Jesus never said anything of the sort
Matt 8:20
we already had this debate in this thread and I won. >>17828754
Anonymous No.17830618 >>17830637
>>17830582
NTA but
>Jesus says to eat bread representing his body
>the church eats Jesus' metaphorical body and it becomes part of them
>Jesus' metaphorical body is now in the members of the church
It kinda fits.

I also think Jesus shared Paul's notion of the church as being like *a* body if not *his* body, hence the saying "If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away; it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away; it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to go into hell." which fits well with the discussion of how to deal with immoral persons in the church in 1 Corinthians 5-6 and otherwise seems a bit absurd, though I know historically some Christians did cut off their genitals over it.

"But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother or sister who is sexually immoral or greedy or an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler. Do not even eat with such a one."

"Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Should I therefore take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never!"
Anonymous No.17830631 >>17830661
>>17830581
>didn't say that
See >>17828574
Anonymous No.17830637
>>17830618
The Didache's version of the Eucharist also makes a close association between the bread and the church

"And concerning the broken bread [say]: We thank You, our Father, for the life and knowledge which You made known to us through Jesus Your Servant; to You be the glory forever. Even as this broken bread was scattered over the hills, and was gathered together and became one, so let Your Church be gathered together from the ends of the earth into Your kingdom;"
Anonymous No.17830661 >>17831105
>>17830631
Nice, was that your post? That really checks out. Not sure how else someone could make sense of those verses otherwise.
www.enjoyhell.com No.17830978 >>17830984
>>17828742
Those flames just got hotter. Tick tock.
Anonymous No.17830984 >>17831101
>>17830978
Then you better get saved for real. Ping pong.
Anonymous No.17831089
>>17830518
What?
www.enjoyhell.com No.17831101 >>17831107
>>17830984
Keep going. I love this!
Anonymous No.17831105 >>17831118
>>17830436
>>17830581
>>17830661
Why do you recoil when anons here call you out for believing God hating niggers and only loving white people? That's word for word what you post here.
Anonymous No.17831107
>>17831101
You will love being saved even more. TikTok or whatever you sign off with.
Anonymous No.17831118 >>17831143
>>17831105
You are strange, and wrong. God loving his people most does not mean he hates you, it just means you don't matter. You are like an orphan getting upset that someone else's father loves their own children but does not care about you in the same way, very inappropriate.
Anonymous No.17831143 >>17831171
>>17831118
>i dont believe that God hates brown people
You admitted it here btw
Anonymous No.17831171
>>17831143
That doesn't say God hates brown people. Maybe you have reading comprehension issues?
Anonymous No.17831204 >>17831350
>>17828398 (OP)
No, under Biblical law, all people are God's Children, and should be treated with love. Satan deceived God's children and turned them away to sin. But that doesn't mean be a push over or accept sinful behavior. There's enough Biblical examples to draw on from where if people aren't willing to curb their sin, they get ended. But on that same note, Jesus said as he was being crucified on a cross as they tortured him, "they know not what they do..." which gives an insight into one of the conditions of the human condition of the folly and foolishness of mankind to enact cruelty onto one another. And in this case, the Son of God.
Anonymous No.17831350 >>17831615
>>17831204
>No, under Biblical law, all people are God's Children
Nope. You're retarded.
Simon Salva No.17831352
No.
Anonymous No.17831360 >>17831441
>>17830592
>>17828754
>“Foxes have dens and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head.”

Christ retard just spams random verses and thinks he's winning lol

>kingdom is within you

Nowhere near the concept of body of christ.
Anonymous No.17831374
>>17828407
beating slaves, raping women if you stop them from crying out for help
Anonymous No.17831441
>>17831360
yes, that is exactly what it means
answered here >>17828825
Anonymous No.17831447
>>17828398 (OP)
I say this and look like this.
Anonymous No.17831460 >>17831465 >>17831471 >>17831474 >>17831481
>>17829763
>Jesus literally says “I say to you that ye not resist evil”.

You're implying that Jesus is telling us to always allow to evil to happen and never take any action that would oppose evil or prevent evil from happening. But we know that this is not what he meant because Jesus says to do good, which is in itself resisting evil. Matthew 5:16 Luke 6:35 Luke 6:31
Infact Jesus explicitly says that he gives Christians the authority to trample evil and oppose the influence of Satan.
>" I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you. "
Luke 10:19
So your interpretation of "do not resist evil" as meaning never take any action that would oppose evil or prevent evil from happening is wrong.
Anonymous No.17831465 >>17831471 >>17831471 >>17831474 >>17831481 >>17831614
>>17831460
>>17829763
So what is the correct interpretation of "do not resist evil"? that's given from the full verse.
Matthew 6:38
>“You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I say to you, Do not resist evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also.
Clearly the point of this verse is concerning an eye for an eye punishment and that is the scope meant by not to "resist" evil.

However the fact that Jesus is saying not to carry out an eye for an eye in some sense does not mean that Christians are not allowed to defend themselves because defending yourself or others is different from carrying out an eye for an eye.
An eye for an eye would be for example if a wicked person stabbed you in the eye but then people caught him and held him down and allowed you to stab him in the eye .
Self defence is if someone stabbed you in the eye and then you chased after him and restrained him so that he couldn't stab anyone else in the eye out of love for your neighbours (mark 12:31) and out of love for your enemy (matthew 5:44) to prevent him from doing further evil and because you should do unto others as you would have them do unto you (luke 6:31) obviously as Christians we would all like for someone to prevent us from from committing evil when we're about to or in the process of committing evil.

So Jesus' infact calls for us to defend ourselves and others.
Anonymous No.17831471 >>17831474 >>17831481 >>17831614
>>17829763
>>17831460
>>17831465
>So you don’t have a scriptural basis for how love is actually when you use violence, got it.
I didn't say that all violence is loving however self-defence and defending others and preventing others from committing evil is indeed loving as explained in >>17831465

also, Jesus says
>“This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.
John 15:12-13
this is clearly saying that the greatest love is when you attempt to save your friends at risk of your own life, so Jesus is saying that defending and protecting others from danger using your own life is the greatest love.
So yes, defending and protecting others from danger and harm is loving.

>The message, very obviously as the early church fathers attested to, is one of absolute pacifism.
totally wrong because defending others is loving and so is preventing others from committing evil as shown in >>
But in addition to all that evidence
why would one calling for "absolute pacificism" tell his followers to buy swords? What need do a pacifists have for swords? luke 22:36-39
Anonymous No.17831474 >>17831481
>>17829763
>>17831460
>>17831465
>>17831471
>> Matthew 21:12
>Jesus himself also told people that He’s God and let them worship Him. Because it’s true. This does not mean we can also claim to be God, because we’re explicitly told that would be blasphemy. Jesus has authority that we don’t have

Lol this is such a bad counter-example. You said it yourself
>Because it’s true.
So when Jesus said that he is God he is telling us the truth and telling us his identity, so he is setting the example that it is good to tell the truth and good to reveal your identity.
Jesus also tells people to follow him multiple times. to follow means to copy the path someone walks, i.e. copy their example .
Jesus also repeatedly said that he is the teacher (John 13:13) of his followers and says that students will become like the teacher (luke 6:40 ) And so Jesus approves of his followers becoming like him by following his teachings and example.

Furthermore, Jesus says that the reason he drove out the money lenders and merchants is because they made his house a den of robbers (mark 11:16) i.e. he did it to prevent and remove evil.
And Jesus says that he gave his disciples the authority to trample evil 10:19
so Jesus using force to prevent and remove evil and jesus saying to follow his example and jesus saying that he gives his followers his authority to trample evil all clearly show that Christians have the authority to use force to prevent evil such as in self defence or defence of another.
Anonymous No.17831481
>>17829763
>>17831460
>>17831465
>>17831471
>>17831474
>Except Peter literally did try to use one of the very swords mentioned in that verse against the Roman authorities and Jesus rebuked him for it. The disciples literally ask him if they’re not to use the swords and his answer, explicitly, is no

All this means is that Jesus told them not to use swords in that particular instance, and Jesus tells us the reason why : because Jesus intentionally went with the people arresting him in order to die for our sins.
So the fact that Jesus told his disciples not to use swords on this particular occasion , when a clear reason is given why he would allow himself to be arrested and taken to be crucified, does not provide evidence that Jesus says to never use force to defend yourself or others or prevent evil. If there was a blanket ban on ever using force for any reason then why would jesus tell his followers to buy swords and bring swords with them.
>It was a fulfilment of prophecy that the messiah be found with brigands. Hence why 2 swords are enough for 13 people.
brigands are robbers, brigands don't need to be armed with swords. No , the reason why 2 swords are enough is because one sword represents the sword you fight with physically and one sword represents the sword you fight with spiritually.
Anonymous No.17831483
>>17829783
>> Your interpretation of christianity is designed to allow evil to run amock which Jesus did not do.
>Except Jesus lived in the time of the Roman Empire, [blah blah blah]
But clearly Jesus did resist evil and did so in the best way. When the best way to resist evil was physically then he did such as when he drove out the money lenders with a whip, when the best way to resist evil was spiritually such as by fasting or by dying for our sins , which ultimately lead to the destruction of paganism in the roman empire, then he did.
And so Christians too have been given the authority to trample evil Luke 10:19 and told to follow Jesus's example , and Christians too are told to have two swords luke 22:36-38 , a physical sword to fight evil physically like Jesus did and a spiritual sword to fight evil like Jesus did.

So your satanic perversion of Christianity tries to mislead people into doing absolutely nothing to resist, oppose, or prevent evil when Jesus' holistic example shows the opposite and He only says not to resist evil in a very specific context of eye for an eye punishment
>> and do not require fearing death.
>But it does. Because it’s entirely motivated by anxiety about this world and this life which is inherently fated to be temporary anyway.

No, it's motivated by following Jesus' teaching such as do unto others as you would wish them do unto you ( you would wish that others protect you from harm so it is good for you to protect others from harm) , and to love thy neighbour (it is loving to look after people such as by healing them or giving them charity or protecting them from harm) and to love they enemy (it is loving to prevent them from doing evil , and also it is doing unto others as you would wish them to do unto you since you would wish that someone prevented you from doing evil if you were about to or in the process of doing evil)
Anonymous No.17831488 >>17831492
>>17829789
>Jesus, God, says the Jews are his children.
All humans are God's children, but Jesus the man was born to a Jewish mother so Jesus the man's people are the Jews.

>He came for them alone.
But we know this is not true because Jesus says that He is destined to forgive the sins of ALL nations (luke 24:44-46).
So what did Jesus mean in Matthew 15:24 when he said he was only sent to the lost sheep of israel? He goes on to tell us what he means in the following verses matthew 15:22-28
That it is good for him to look after his own people first then look after foreigners afterwards in the same way it's good for a father to feed his children first then give the scraps to the dog.

And thus just as we should all feed our own children before feeding the dog, so too should we look after our own people first then look after foreigners afterwards.
So Jesus is both giving us an example to follow : namely to be ethnocentric and look after your people first AND Jesus is saying that the reason for this behaviour is a reason that applies to all of us.
Anonymous No.17831492
>>17829789
>>17831488

>And gentiles are dogs that can only receive help when they’ve accepted their inherent inferiority to Jews.
But the verses don't say that at all. The verses give the reason why it is right for Jesus to look after the jews first : which is the same reason that it is right for a man to feed his children before feeding the dog i.e. because a man has a greater obligation to his own family members than to non-family members so in the same way a man has a greater obligation to his own people (who are his extended family his ethnos, his nation - nation means people of shared birth) than to foreigners who are not of his own people.
So the verses do not say that gentiles are dogs, the verses merely point out that gentiles are not part of the jewish people in the same way a dog is not a part of a man's family like his kids are.
Nor does the verse say that gentiles are inherently inferior to jews.

You are making up blatant lies about what Jesus said which show your hatred towards the teachings of Jesus and your satanic intentions to twist and corrupt and lie about Christianity.
Anonymous No.17831495
>>17828848

>>17828848
Wrong. if you read matthew 15:22-28 , Jesus says that that it wouldn't be right to help her for the same reason it wouldn't be right for a father to take his children's food and give it to the dog , and the canaanite woman agrees with Jesus's logic but extends it and points out the corollary that it would be good for a father to feed the dog once his children have eaten using the scraps. jesus then approves of this and says that it is a statement of great faith, i.e. a statement that greatly complies with the faith of Christianity and Jesus' teachings.

So both both Jesus and the canaanite woman affirm that it is good for a man to look after his own people first then give help and charity to foreigners for the same reason it is good for a man to feed his children before giving the scraps to the dog.

So in this case the woman is approving that Jesus is behaving in an ethnocentric way, and since she is asking for his help she says that it is good that he give help to the jews first.
And since that woman has great faith and will live her life according to that same principle, she too will behave in an ethnocentric way thenceforth and help her canaanites first before helping foreigners.
Anonymous No.17831501 >>17831516
>>17828398 (OP)
The Bible doesn't say anything about racism, because Biblically speaking there is no such thing as race. In the Bible, people are referred to by tribe rather than by race, because all (modern) human beings are the same race, and it would be pointless to refer to a homo sapiens sapiens as being from the human race. In short, racism is impossible because you cannot discriminate against someone because they are the same race as you.
Anonymous No.17831509
>>17828398 (OP)
Most of these reactionary neochristcucks are just wanting the particular social environment of the 1950’s. I recently figured this out, and I think I’m right. The jewish king part is irrelevant pretty much, they just want the tight-er communities of common minded people like they had back then. These modern people make little effort to find that community offline though.
Anonymous No.17831516
>>17831501
that's just kicking the can down the road. you're left with basically the same question to answer as in the OP but reworded to "what the bible say about nation-ism? " or ethnos-ism or tribe-ism .
Anonymous No.17831614
>>17831471
>totally wrong because defending others is loving and so is preventing others from committing evil as shown in >>
should say as shown in >>17831465
Anonymous No.17831615 >>17831626
>>17831350
If we're going by the Bible, all humans are made from dust and the breath of God, so by proxy technically all humans. Thus making all humans Children/Creations of God.
Anonymous No.17831626 >>17831637
>>17831615
animals are God's creations, but that doesn't have the same meaning as the people who are of God.
Anonymous No.17831637
>>17831626
Okay, then those who follow Jesus are technically God's adopted children looking back at it. But still, they technically are.
Anonymous No.17832867
Yes, Matthew 15:22-28 proves that loving and caring for your own race first is commanded in Christianity.
Anonymous No.17832872 >>17832886 >>17832894
Your based and trad religion, goyim.
Anonymous No.17832886 >>17832897
>>17832872
One of the greatest tragedies of our time is that jews have convinced many they alone are "israel."
Anonymous No.17832894 >>17832902 >>17833109
>>17832872
The passage teaches that looking after own race first before looking after other races is a good thing for the same reason that it's good to feed your children before giving leftovers to the dog.

yes, ethnocentrism is based and traditional.
Anonymous No.17832897 >>17833045
>>17832886
Jesus, in that very verse, explicitly tells a gentile Christian that she is not of Israel.
Anonymous No.17832902 >>17832936
>>17832894
That’s one hell of an eisegesis on a verse that explicitly says gentiles are dogs and Jews are their masters.
Anonymous No.17832936 >>17833151
>>17832902
No, it doesn't "explicitly" say that. you're lying. What it says is that the reason why Jesus should help his people before helping foreigners is the same reason why a father should feed his children before feeding the dog.

>24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”
Jesus the man says that his duty is to help his people , his nation
>25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.
The canaanite woman asks him for help anyway
>26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”
Jesus the man says that the reason why his duty is to help his nation, is the same reason why a father has a duty to feed his children rather than those who are not his children, such as a dog
>27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”
the woman agrees with Jesus's reasoning and extends his reasoning, explaining that even though it is right and proper that a man feed his children , it's ok for non-family members like the dog to eat the left overs.
>28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.
Jesus agrees with the woman affirms that the woman's extension of Jesus's reasoning is a statement of "great faith",i.e. agrees with his teaching.

So Jesus is affirming what the Canaanite woman said : that the reason why Jesus, a jew, should help the jews first before giving charity to foreigners is the same reason why a father should make sure his children are fed first before feeding non-family members like the dog.
And since all men have a duty to make sure their children are fed first, so too do all men have a duty to look after their own people/nation/race/ethnicity before looking after foreigners.

so matthew 15:22-28 clearly teaches that christians should be ethnocentric and look after their own people first before looking after foreigners.
Anonymous No.17833045
>>17832897
>tells a gentile that she is not
Many are not, but those of God are. But being not does not mean they can not find a place in the salvationof those that are. Who is? Who isn't? This was once easily understood because divine pedigree was assumed in prechristian beliefs among those that are. Only Hebrews? A Laughable presupposition.
Anonymous No.17833096
>>17828593
Jews don't even believe in afterlife btw
Everyone just goes into a hole in the ground where you are a spirit doing nothing in the darkness
Anonymous No.17833097 >>17833969
>>17828398 (OP)
I’d say that racism is tolerated in Christianity. It would be seen as being an inherent part of the fallen state of the world and an inevitable outcome of the flesh. Racism and nationalism as positive principles aren’t supported however, as they’re obviously paganistic and they reject human equality in such a way that implies that many humans can’t have an equal relationship with God as the racist group. The issue is that most of the scholarship on this topic in the 20th century was fixated on the idea that Christianity is a racist religion because it expanded in tandem with European Empire, but that’s simply incorrect and to a large degree based on taking false racist interpretations of Christianity at face value
Anonymous No.17833109 >>17833121 >>17833151
>>17832894
It doesn’t say look after your own race first. It says Jews should look out for their own tribe first. This is the sort of terrible interpretation of a Bible quote that causes so much confusion; it causes leftists to see the religion as racist and causes white nationalists to think that Christianity is based. In reality it’s justifying Jewish supremacy, which contradicts the goals of white nationalist Christians who are then forced into brain twisters about how “they are the real Jews now” which is a roundabout way of applauding the Jewish domination of the European mind
Anonymous No.17833119 >>17833219
>>17828398 (OP)
Racism as a conceptualized moral vice was invented in the late 19th century.
Anonymous No.17833121
>>17833109
>Jewish supremacy
Israel never was just jews. Jews killed him for exactly that "heresy" which makes it stupid for jews to claim otherwise.
Anonymous No.17833151
>>17833109
>It doesn’t say look after your own race first.

Yes it does. What reason does Jesus give for WHY he looks after his own people before foreigners? He says it's because a man's duty to his people before foreigners is like a man's duty to his children before the family dog.

Does that reason also apply to other men? Yes. It's not just Jesus who would have a duty to feed his children first, all men have a duty to feed their children first.

SO since the reason for WHY it is right and proper for Jesus looks after his own people first also applies to other men, therefore it is also right and proper for other men to look after their own people first.

see >>17832936 if you want it spelled out even more explicitly.
Anonymous No.17833198 >>17833269
>whypipo are LITERALLY god
>heaven is when racism
amazing theological developments in 4chanity
Anonymous No.17833219 >>17833495
>>17833119
>stormnigger history
The Spanish Crown created the first anti-racial discriminatory laws in the 17th century to protect their non-Spanish subjects.
Anonymous No.17833251 >>17833269
This thread has proven that racism is not only permitted but commanded in Christianity.
Anonymous No.17833269 >>17833277 >>17833487
>>17833251
>>17833198
You sound bitter and brown.
Anonymous No.17833277 >>17833293
>>17833269
>
Modern Christianity is the brown man's religion. Have fun with your Mexicans.
Anonymous No.17833293
>>17833277
Okay. Enjoy worshiping jews then.
Anonymous No.17833487 >>17833520
>>17833269
You’re assuming the worst which speaks to your own bitterness. Looking after your race first the sabe way you look after your kids first is a beautiful, Holy thing.
Anonymous No.17833495 >>17833550
>>17833219
nta but the 17th century is a fiction invented in the 19th century
Anonymous No.17833520
>>17833487
Yes, that at least would be an improvement even if it only goes half way towards the truth.
Anonymous No.17833541 >>17833557
>>17828398 (OP)
Racism is not permitted, but slavery is.
Anonymous No.17833550
>>17833495
>i--its fake...
I accept your concession.
Anonymous No.17833557 >>17834014
>>17833541
Explain white people owning slaves and being Christian.
Anonymous No.17833969
>>17833097
>I’d say that racism is tolerated in Christianity. It would be seen as being an inherent part of the fallen state of the world and an inevitable outcome of the flesh. Racism and nationalism as positive principles aren’t supported however, as they’re obviously paganistic and they reject human equality in such a way that implies that many humans can’t have an equal relationship with God as the racist group.
The fifth commandment is, "Honor thy father and thy mother." See Exodus 20:12.

It also says this in 1 Timothy 5:8, "But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel."
Anonymous No.17834014 >>17834034
>>17833557
He just said it's permitted you illiterate shitskin.
Anonymous No.17834034 >>17834042 >>17834079 >>17834082
>>17834014
>owning negroes isn't racist
I accept your terms.
Anonymous No.17834042 >>17834063
>>17834034
I accept your concession, Pedro.
Anonymous No.17834063 >>17834068 >>17834074 >>17834079 >>17834082
>>17834042
>concession
Never, you gay jew monster. Also all your enemies aren't brown, so stop saying that because it gives you away every single time.
Anonymous No.17834068 >>17834076
>>17834063
melty
Anonymous No.17834074
>>17834063
Correct, some of them are Jews
Anonymous No.17834076
>>17834068
I see you have run out of arguments, better luck next time.
Anonymous No.17834079 >>17834084
>>17834034
>>17834063
ESL beaner LMAO
Anonymous No.17834082
>>17834034
>posts catholics
>>17834063
>posts anti Catholic meme
retarded or American (retarded)?
Anonymous No.17834084
>>17834079
Ah yes, the white supremacist beaners.. that is definitely a real thing and not just your jew cope mechanism kicking in
Anonymous No.17834089 >>17834093
>amerishart saved an image of Catholic children on his computer because it reminded him of his anti papist KKK uncledaddy
Anonymous No.17834093
>>17834089
Do you not find it fascinating that they chose that garb in particular? They were, after all, a religious movement. Not that I am or have ever been affiliated with it. Did you ever stop to wonder what it means, the garb, the symbolism? probably not
Anonymous No.17834100 >>17834101
>17834093
>this centuries old Spanish tradition was invented by my inbred grandpa in 1890s arkansas

Do americlaps really
Anonymous No.17834101
>>17834100
Obviously that isn't what I claimed, but I see you are again resorting to strawman arguments... probably because your positions are too weak to defend properly, that is a shame but better luck next time.
Anonymous No.17834108 >>17834118
>17834101
>too retarded to understand he's being insulted and not argued with
Holy shit
Anonymous No.17834118
>>17834108
Is your conviction in your beliefs really so weak that you refuse to defend them and must resort instead to such transparently disingenuous insults? Pathetic, truly.