Why didn't Japanese people trade land for beads when white people showed up like the Native Americans did?

Japan had a unified national identity, the natives didn't. When Europeans showed up to North America, it was dozens of different tribes and tribal confederations against eachother. Some tribes figured it was advantageous to give away land in exchange for guns as a way to fuck over their enemies. It's a dog eat dog world out there

>>17832054 (OP)
Because the natives didn't trade land for beads either? It was pretty much always a scam for one side or another
Natives scammed yuros by "selling" them land where a rival tribe lived
Yuros scammed natives by paying tribute to live somewhere for a bit and then erecting fences and claiming it's their exclusive property now and forever
Or finding a random hobo and proclaiming him to ackshually be a legal representative of the natives to sign off on stuff for booze and beads

>>17832054 (OP)
maybe they wanted to be kind idk

>believing history books written by whites

they just stole shit while pretending to be peaceful setters. they're like jews

Higher iq
>>17832498
White people are the most honest and mora people on the planet

>>17832504
>IOF is the most moral army in the planet

You even talk the same lol. Fucking diet jew.

>>17832504
Lmao
Whites literally act like jews

>>17832054 (OP)
As far as the naties were concerned, colonies existed to be shaken down for trade goods and to act as buffers against the invasion of their territory.
The beads were just the initial payment in a constant stream of extraction that was opened up by allowing the colonies to exist.

>>17832545
No we don't
I'm jewish btw

>>17832060
>Japan had a unified national identity
clearly you know little about japanese history
although to your credit i will say japanese were less divided than natives were

>>17832587
nta, but japan although divided and always fighting had total sense of their "nation" and culture and language, it was a fight to control all of that
the natives didn't have anything like that, a unified language or any idea of what "america" was

>>17832587
An Emperor existed and everybody acknowledged that he theoretically was in control and that their own rights were derived from his approval of them as titled functionaries of his state.

>>17832552
>natives were extracting from colonists

>>17832587
Nigger are you fucking joking?

>>17832587
Retard

>>17832552
Where in American history did native americans ever shake down settlers for goods?

>>17832504
I can tell you're a shitskin because not even White people believe that

>>17833259
The American southwest between 1780-1875.

>>17833352
this is retarded. That period covers when the US gov was officially tying up native tribes in debt to force them to repay it in land. Being retarded isnt something you should share with us.

>>17832504
You must be asian, dont you lurk on this board and see the multiple huwhyte power fantasies of shitskin genocide and such

>>17832054 (OP)
The closest was when Diamyo Ōmura Sumitada gifted the port of Nagasaki to the Society of Jesus as a religious donation. In the years prior the Portuguese had built up the fishing village into a large and prosperous port, constructing buildings, conducting trade, and defending the port from invaders. Although the city was under Jesuit administration, it never ceased being part of Sumitada's overall domain.

Ultimately Jesuit administration proved unworkable because under Japanese law they were not allowed to use capital punishment against Japanese citizens. So for seven years the Japanese of Nagasaki paid only the taxes they wanted to pay, which was about half of what they were liable for. Toyotomi Hideyoshi eventually came in, saw that people weren't be taxed and swiftly put an end to the situation. Nagasaki was placed back under Japanese rule, with a provision allowing for the Jesuits to be paid an allowance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Nagasaki

>>17832060
>Japan had a unified national identity,
Absolute state of this board

Tfw no land or beads

>>17832504
daily reminder that genetically speaking, there's no difference between ashkenazi kikes and snowniggers

>>17832504
>sign treaty that you made with a group on your favorable terms
>still find ways to break YOUR OWN TREATY TERMS
>do so back to back to the point its backfiring.

>>17834695
Yes, a unified national identity. Please tell me in your own words what you think that means, please anon I need a good laugh.

>>17832601
>An Emperor existed...and that their own rights were derived from his approval of them as titled functionaries of his state.
He was basically a powerless figurehead. Even during the WW2 and the prelude up to it.

>>17832599
japan although divided and always fighting had total sense of their "nation" and culture and language.
They constantly fought each other and threw each other under the bus on top of the constant fighting between groups.

>>17836349
>Yes, a unified national identity
The empire of Japan had to basically create own out of thin air to justify it's legitimacy on top making up bullshit such as state Shinto ora "Japanese" Buddhism.

>>17832054 (OP)
Native Americans were unfamiliar with European colonization and they were no where near as unified, so the message couldn't spread.

During the Warring States Era, while the warlords were waging war against each other, merchants and messengers still spread. And in theory, Japan was unified state under the Emperor/Shogun/Imperial Regent/whatever. The Japanese had heard about Europeans from Ming who traded with them. There was also a general distrust of them. Religious groups, especially armed monks and monasteries, were viewed with disdain by the warlord class who were basically warlords themselves. Displeased monasteries would literally dump ancient relics in front of castles to rile up the people, who believed the local gods and spirits were angry with them. So monks were not well liked by the warrior class.

So when European traders come, wanting to establish religious trade missions, there was a lot of skepticism. It's a big deal with Nobunaga basically allowed Christians to preach, most probably to secure better access to guns. The Otomo Clan in the West also leased land to Christian missionaries (Jesuits). When they immediately fortified their lands as basically a church with a castle around it, every other samurai warlord immediately got suspicious of their intentions.

Luckily for the Japanese, the Christian emissaries were not united or well supported post-1580. The reigning pope pre-1580s was pro-Jesuit and thus sponsored Jesuit missions into Japan. After his death, the new Pope didn't favor the Jesuits, preferring to focus on the Franciscans and their efforts in the Philippines. So after the 1580s, the Catholics lost interest as the Jesuits were not supported and many recalled.

>>17832054 (OP)
Japan actually did have a designated offshore trading post, the island of Dejima, quite akin to what many native leaders intended Euro settlements to become. A fair number of cities on the US Atlantic coast were founded under similar agreements.
The difference is that natives were military weak and decimated by disease, so Euro-Americans could and did break the agreements and land grab. Japan was never in a position where even Portugal could do likewise (they stuck to converting daimyo), and after Japan banned them over missionary activities, the Dutch didn't even try.