In a 2008 letter to the Irish Times, Benny Morris wrote:

— Israel-haters are fond of citing—and more often, mis-citing—my work in support of their arguments. Let me offer some corrections. . . . In defiance of the will of the international community, as embodied in the UN General Assembly Resolution of November 29th, 1947, [the Palestinians] launched hostilities against the Jewish community in Palestine in the hope of aborting the emergence of the Jewish state and perhaps destroying that community. But they lost; and one of the results was the displacement of 700,000 of them from their homes. . . . On the local level, in dozens of localities around Palestine, Arab leaders advised or ordered the evacuation of women and children or whole communities. . . .

— Most of Palestine’s 700,000 “refugees” fled their homes because of the flail of war (and in the expectation that they would shortly return to their homes on the backs of victorious Arab invaders). But it is also true that there were several dozen sites, including Lydda and Ramla, from which Arab communities were expelled by Jewish troops.

— The displacement of the 700,000 Arabs who became “refugees”—and I put the term in inverted commas, as two-thirds of them were displaced from one part of Palestine to another and not from their country (which is the usual definition of a refugee)—was not a “racist crime” . . . but the result of a national conflict and a war, with religious overtones, from the Muslim perspective, launched by the Arabs themselves.

Nor could they have imagined that not one Arab country would move to absorb the refugees and offer them citizenship, or that the Palestinians’ leaders would insist on keeping the refugees locked up in their own camps for the purpose of dramatizing the Nakba narrative.

Muslims are EXTREMELY pathetic and petty and butthurt creatures. They couldn’t just stay in Israel? Happy and well off Israeli-Muslims wonder they they didn’t, even today. “Was your hatred worth it?”.

>>17833480 (OP)
I don't understand, had they stayed and Israel gained independence with an Arab majority, what would've happened to the Arabs?

>>17833492
I mean they wanted them to go back, giving citizenship would basically erase their claim to the right of return

>>17833506
>Was your hatred worth it?
It payed off for the Jews. They slaughtered them incessantly, and they got a state. Ask any Jew what they think of Arabs and you'd get Nazi-tier genocidal responses. It was gamble, one payed off, while the other didn't.

>>17833521
>Ask any Jew what they think of Arabs and you'd get Nazi-tier genocidal responses
Probably because the vast majority of Arabs are fucking psychotic sand apes, and even Arabs know this. Historically Arabs have hated Arabs, especially if they were intelligent and lamented their cultural heritage being cancer.

>>17833506
wonder why* they didn’t

You can hate Israel and still acknowledge how much dumber Palestine is.

>>17833539
European Jews in the 19th century were passionately genocidal when they never set foot in the Middle East. The fact is, Jewish migrants were packed with hate even before they came to Mandatory Palestine.
>Probably because the vast majority of Arabs are fucking psychotic sand apes
You being Jewish and saying this proves my point. Regardless of anything, Jews are passionately hateful and racist, even towards the Arab Israelis that pose no threat to them whatsoever. It's inconceivable that Jews can ever be not racist against Arabs. You reap what you sow

>>17833521
Most Jews are mad libtarded. They would be very justified in hating Arabs more than they do because, as we all in the west have come to learn, Arabs are scum and there’s never been a country that benefited from suffering them.

>>17833630
>Most Jews are mad libtarded
Lmao they go full chud behind the curtains.

>>17833539
>Probably because the vast majority of Arabs are fucking psychotic sand apes
Key example of zionist rhetoric. Arabs are savage yet for some reason Israelis love cribbing a ton for culture and cuisine from Arab and Arab Jews.

>>17833591
>>17833630
>>17833728
Is this cope

bump

>>17833539
Why did millions of jews move there then? Clearly they must be better neighbors than the White man, considering how much they hate us and hated living in our countries

>>17833728
>Arabs are savage yet for some reason Israelis love cribbing a ton for culture and cuisine from Arab and Arab Jews.
What do you think Eastern Jews were eating while living among the Arabs? Is an Iraqi Jew appropriating the cuisine his kind has been immersed in for millenia inside Babylonia?

>>17833728
>>17834458
Israel is mostly "arab" its full of middle eastern jews that fled persecution in muslim countries.
Its not cribbing anything, its literally their culture.

>>17834458
>take up less than one percent of the sand waste
>AAAAAGHHH THIS IS SO UNFAIR
lol

>>17834606
Not only do the insane sand people think they had their land stolen, they also think their hummus got stolen, kek. This whole situation is a loony toons skit.

>literal early 2000 zionazi neocon propaganda

Hasbarats are not sending their peoples

""Israel""" is a genocidal settler colony and the only insane psychotic creatures are the jewish nazis there

>>17835213
Their best peoples*

>>17833480 (OP)
Badempanada refutes all jewish nazis

Muslims launched a literal genocidal war on the yahuds, failed and cried about it for generations.

The "displaced" people of the land were those who shared this genocidal intent to begin with, The others who stayed became Arab Israeli citizens and currently the richest and most privileged Arabs in the world.

Muzzdogs need to stop starting wars with Israel because it’s just getting humiliating now. Literally not even one W in almost 80 years.
Y’all are making the Ummah look like total bitches, Allah must be pissed

>>17835265
>genocidal war
<My victims fighting back is le heckin genocide

Jewish projection at its finest

>>17833480 (OP)
I don't get it. Sounds like he's admitting that 700k people were displaced and even today cannot return home as a result of a war against foreign colonists. How is this a lie exactly?

>>17835489
Who declared the 1948 war exactly?

>>17835513
It doesn’t really count when they’re displacing themselves for voluntary reasons.
The funny thing is modern leftists, right at this very moment, outspokenly apply the opposite logic to white South African diaspora as they do to the Palestian diaspora.

>>17835528
>It doesn’t really count when they’re displacing themselves for voluntary reasons.

I don't see how that follows. That logic wouldn't apply to anyone else. No one would say the people who have fled Eastern Ukraine shouldn't be able to go back for example. The white South Africans mostly don't want to go back because SA is a shithole.

If some foreign invaders motivated by religious extremism showed up, started committing acts of terrorism and declared that they were a state now and I should certainly hope that my government would declare war on them.

>>17835545
They can go back, they just need to enter as ordinary Israeli visa applicants because they lost the war they started and it’s not their country anymore. Boohoo.

>>17835588
Well, frankly, that is not just and I would not just passively accept that if it happened to me. I can certainly sympathize with the Palestinian cause.

I understand the basis of Jewish law is basically, "anything you can steal from the goyim, you should", but international law works slightly differently.

>>17835599
History isn’t just. Call me when you give a fuck about any of the other wars of conquest that ever happened.
> but international law works slightly differently.
Bold appealing to international law when your opening premise is that the 1948 UN settlement for Palestine should have been violated at first opportunity. This is typical thirdie behaviour, international law for thee not for me. Not one of the wars versus Israel have ever been legally sanctioned, and you know this yourself.

>>17835517
why was there anything to declare war on?

>>17833512
probably a situation similar to modern day lebanon where there is enforced ethnic power sharing in the government, so the government itself is basically powerless and all the real power is in subnational ethnic militias which operate their own parallel statelets.

>>17835625
Because a bunch of Jews moved to the Levant m, bought land from the Arabs and were successful in building a large enough community that the UN settlement plan for British withdrawal from the region decided to create two partitioned states in which one had a Jewish majority and the other a Muslim majority. Much like has been performed elsewhere in the world in India/Pakistan, Ireland/Northern Ireland, Cyprus/Northern Cyprus, or Sudan/South Sudan.
The funny part is Palestinians today would literally kill for the settlement they rejected back then.

>>17835213
if you have a counter to OP's argument let's hear it. Just saying "you are a zionazi and this is propaganda" is not an argument, it's a mere insult.

>>17833521
Eh no.
20% of Israels population are Arabs you moron. Israel also has a very large leftist lobby, they're not all ultra-nationalists, albeit the leftist movement has died down considerably since the October 7 attack, but before that date you can find plenty of videos on YouTube which shows massive protests and rallies.

>>17835651
>The funny part is Palestinians today would literally kill for the settlement they rejected back then.
nope, they still harbor the delusion that all of it belongs to them and they should never have to share

>>17833544
The whole conflict should have ended in the 90s/early 00s. Clinton and Barak and Rabin made considerable effort to compromise for a two-state solution and eventually Arafat just left the negotiations, because he knew that the Clinton proposal was a good deal but his countrymen would kill him for it (like Rabin was). The Palestinians don't want a seperate state, they want ALL of it. They refuse to face the fact that sometimes when you lose a war you have to cut your losses and move on, like everyone else has been compelled to do. The Palestinians act like they're the only people who have experienced this.

>yeah we did ethnic cleansing to form our ethnostate, but so what? They tried to stop us and failed so they had it coming really.

>>17835686
>Ethnostate
>Ethnic cleansing
>Is literally 20% Arab (not including the Arab Jews)
>Most of those have been there since 1947
Meanwhile…

>>17835213
“Jewish Nazi” is a contradictory term because the Nazis hated Zionism you faggot

>>17835224
>badempanada
That faggot is literally a pedophile communist

>>17835621
>History isn’t just.

Then why are you constantly crying about muh Holocaust and muh Hamas?

I would be careful about endorsing a "might makes right" morality, Moshe. There's a lot more of us than there are of you and the last time the world got Jew fatigue it didn't go so well for Bubbe.

>>17835695
People tend to get angry when you start using ethnic composition as a basis to start grabbing land.

>>17836272
Actually there isn’t. Antisemites are a resentful minority and even in the most widely antisemitic cultures their own elites typically ignore this because they see there’s more to be gained with being a friend of the Jews than an enemy. See: Arabs, Turks, Slavs.
Likewise the Axis of WW2 was basically one loser chimp out that was fated to be crushed by the geopolitical Chads of the world. What’s the number 1 Nazi cope for why they lost? Right, “we wuz outnumbered”. Regardless, the Holocaust is nothing if not proof that history is unjust.
>>17836280
As opposed to the completely non-ethnic basis for Palestinian land-grabs of course.

Benny Morris huh?

Imagine being yelled at by everyone for defending your home after having it burned down, and seeing the burnt and raped corpses of their wife and children and grandparents.

And the world still hates you for it. “Why are you so mad?”.

Surreal.

>>17833506
The thing Arabs just don’t get at all even if it’s right in front of their is that there is not grand conspiracy from the world, Arabs fuck up and create an opportunity that Israel takes advantage of
>declare war and lose then Israel gets to claim more land
>rebels take over country, well that’s more land for us since the leader is a jihadist
>druze and other minorities are abused in neighbouring countries? Make them a better offer and watch them side with us
>arab leaders and their government are nepo babies? That just means it’s easier to create chaos
Literally the luckiest spawn point for rising nation to be in when everyone around you is an incompetent idiot that drinks the religious cool aid and is filled to the brim with social issues

>>17833544
Actually you can’t, Arab communities will shun you if you openly critique Pali leadership or Hamas, heck if you blame the recent 3 year war on Hamas attacking first you will be labelled as a pro Zionist, when Hamas themselves just gave Bibi the perfect excuse to solidify his government and destroy Gaza.

>>17833591
See the thing is post 7 October slaughter destroyed all inner sympathies from Israelis on Palestinians, the most diehard Israeli politician and supporter of a two state solution abandoned the idea entirely after the attack and what was once a divided country fractured opinions on a Palestinian state quickly turned into a unified acceptance for the destruction of the of the idea of Palestine.

It’s like 9/11 where a single event changed the entire goal of country and its politics for extreme solutions.

>>17835662
Exactly Arabs and their retadred fans fail to realize how Israel was divided.

It was Hamas who gave the perfect excuse for Israel to invade Gaza and start this whole recent war with their idiotic border raid against a bunch of hippies and villagers, do you even know how divided Israeli politics and government divisions before the attack by Hamas? Netanyahu was facing corruption charges and his political coalition was collapsing, the entire north Israel settlements were being abandoned. But of course Hamas being run by dinasours that can’t think two steps ahead decided to serve the Gaza citizens on a silver platter to the Israeli army.

Same thing applies to West Bank, Hamas gave the best excuse to allow more violence on Palestinians and the expansion of settlements.

Arabs treat Israel like a great shaytan that can only be defeated through divine intervention, but the moment they start treating it like a regular country the picture would be crystal clear.

>>17835695
Jewish Arab treatment was so bad in Arab countries, Jews would be immediately evicted from their homes and used as a scapegoat goat for the loss of the 6 day war.

>>17835651
>southern part would’ve eventually been overtaken by Bedouins living in squalor (it’s just a dump land)
>north part would’ve been overwhelmed from immigrants from Lebanon, Syria and the other Palestinians
The coast was already heavily populated by Arab Jews so again the Arabs would’ve outbred them in all scenarios, I can’t believe Arabs were so blind to a picturesque agreement that would’ve eventually still had them on top.

Oh well you know the saying, a Palestinian would never lose an opportunity to lose an opportunity

>>17836272
Not really, the Muslim world treats Palestinians like how a middle class neighbourhood treats the homeless.

You feel bad for them and donate a thing here and there but nobody wants them to be their problem.

>>17836618
You can hate Israel and Palestine both if you’re a centrist, apocalyptic “I hope both kill each other!” doofus, which is becoming more common (this critically dangerous inability to dissect and weigh too sides—even two absolute bastards—to the point where they see everyone as equally wrong or equally at fault, and this is a callback to their cancerous “we’re all the same :)” equality mentality).

>>17836686
When Muslims kill each other in worse ways than you can imagine, the world sleeps -__-

When Muslims are slapped on the hand by non-Muslim powers, the world wakes and is >:O

>>17836701
Not really, the world slept on the genocide in Myanmar against Muslims and Ughyrs in China (China was justified here though those guys are psychotic and are just breeding grounds for extremists).

>>17836716
>Not really, the world slept on the genocide in Myanmar against Muslims and Ughyrs in China
White people weren’t involved and so the world slept -__-

>>17837465
My sympathies are strongly with israel in this war, but i do understand americans saying "my country is directly supporting israel, and i dont like that, so im protesting it. I think burma and china are bad, but my tax dollars arent supporting china or the burmese army so what does it matter if i protest that?" As for euros or muslims idk why they dont care. Turkey is literally the only muslim country that denounces China over the Uighurs.

>>17833480 (OP)
Fuck off kikes bot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte

>>17836306
>As opposed to the completely non-ethnic basis for Palestinian land-grabs of course.

How do you grab a land that you've resided on for thousands of years? Of course you're going to resist some Schlomo-come-latelys who come over from Europe and try to engage in thievery.

>Antisemites are a resentful minority

The ADL is always running stories about how six gorillion percent of the world holds antisemitic beliefs and that's why they need more shekels. Are you admitting that's just a lie? I can't keep the Jewish narrative straight. It seems when you're weak you cry oppression and appeal to others' humanity, but when you're strong you turn to the survival of the fittest and claim others are simply jealous and resentful.

>>17836716
>world slept on the genocide in Myanmar against Muslims and Ughyrs in China
Burma has been heavily denounced and sanctioned, but there's no appetite for military intervention there.

Nobody has ever shown proof of any deaths of Ughyrs. It seems to mostly be a CIA-op.

>>17838527
>voluntarily selling land is the same as having it stolen from you
Prior to 1948 all Jewish settlement was on land legally purchased from Arab landlords, often at exorbitantly above market prices. If you think this is "thievery" you are either an imbecile or you're arguing in bad faith. Likely both honestly.

>>17835662
>the leftist movement has died down considerably since the October 7 attack, but before that date you can find plenty of videos on YouTube which shows massive protests and rallies.
>>17836643
>Exactly Arabs and their retadred fans fail to realize how Israel was divided.
Israel was politically divided over Bibi and his judicial reform and a variety of other things, but it would've been a mistake to assume that those Israelis protesting Bibi wouldn't pick up arms in a war. Israel isn't like the U.S. or some other Western countries where people are as socially divided, not just politically divided. It might be because the majority of the population is Jewish so they have that tribal instict to fall back on, and it's a small country. Like how do you even have an urban/rural divide in such a place? But they fight each other about all kinds of things.

>Arabs treat Israel like a great shaytan that can only be defeated through divine intervention, but the moment they start treating it like a regular country the picture would be crystal clear.
I agree with this take.

>>17838527
>I can't keep the Jewish narrative straight.
NTA but I think the ADL is very cynical and hypocritical. The thing is, there's not a single Jewish narrative. It's always "the Jews are like this, like that" with you guys but it's often (imo) a projection of things you believe, but it doesn't per se have anything to do with them. For one, they're not Christians and so there's a different mentality. Jews also love to argue with each other so much it's exhausting. Also there are massive cultural differences between American Jews and Israeli Jews, like they have their own version of gopniks over there (satirical but basically this):
https://youtu.be/fHt2A5JNY6E

Also an Israeli sketch comedy show making fun of American Jews on their birthright trip:
https://vimeo.com/35660324

>>17838527
If you ask me, though, the Israeli mentality (from what I understand) towards antisemites is that it basically means you're a barbarian, an idiot, and that you don't like them but they don't like you much either. If you want to get them out of there, well, you have to go through the IDF first, so go try it.

American Jews... not so much. There's a lot of moralizing and virtue signaling. Like you see a lot of the liberal politically-correct style with them and how you're making them feel "unsafe" (gotta have those safe spaces) but it's also hypocritical because they support Israel which is chuddified to a big degree. I don't respect that, but I don't respect antisemites either, like you're blasting that Kanye song to make yourself feel brave, oh that's so brave. A Hamas guy who charges a tank with a satchel charge might be a maniac but that's brave. It's not "bravery signaling" (we need a term for this). Like, "I'm so brave for saying the Holocaust was made up." There are millions of people in the Muslim world who believe that, or at the very least don't give a shit about the Holocaust, and some of those people have fired missiles at Israel and killed Israeli soldiers. You're a little baby compared to them. So why would those Israelis find you at all intimidating? It's just a different perspective people have living over there.

>>17838794
That's a pretty funny sketch, though I don't think it was really all that reflective of the Jewish youth group trip I went on to Eastern Europe and Israel in 2004 when I was 15.

Anyway, my response to your main point is that I think it's very foolish when people talk about "the jews" because there is no "the jews" just jewish people who all have their own personal opinions and beliefs. Jews aren't a hive mind, far from it.

>>17838532
The rumor is that the men are all being jailed so the Han Chinese men can take their women as wives due to the shortage of females in the country.

I don’t believe that though and Ughyrs are all over Syria marrying Syrian women and being overall extremists.

>>17838794
Unironically Bibi has cemented the safety of Israel and the absolute decimation of its enemies, the operation to destroy Hezbollah with less than 50 causalities, the takeover of Syrian mountains on the pretence that the country is now run by a jihadist along with the total destruction of all military aircraft, navy, vehicles in the chaos of Assad’s fall and the crippling attacks on Iran high command is commendable
>borders expanded
>neighbors pacified
>Iran humiliated
Not to mention it’s guaranteed at least half of Gaza will be permanently occupied by either residents or settlers. The guy completed generations of ambitions for the right wing parties of Israel in less than five years.

>>17838924
you might find this amusing, I randomly came across this youtube page today of some random British guy making multiple videos ranting about Israel, saying it's finished, and celebrating its enemies every single day. He's apparently been doing this for years. Literally the "China is collapsing" meme but for Israel.
https://www.youtube.com/@KernowDamo/videos

I'd say pretty good grift, but where do people like this find the energy to whinge every single day and continually just be wrong?

How about Palestinians just move on and grow up and surrender for the sake of their children, and their children’s children, and their children’s children’s children, and their children’s children’s children’s children, and so on…

Oh wait. It’s because they don’t actually care about their children, and their children’s children, and their children’s children’s children, and their children’s children’s children’s children, and so on…

>>17837528
>Turkey is literally the only muslim country that denounces China over the Uighurs.
But they send escapees back to China as a “good will gesture” I heard.

>>17839025
That’s just their main source of content, like how atheist YouTubers from over a decade ago still talk about the collapse of religion and the rise of science

>>17836694
I hope you wipe each other out tbqhqyf

>>17838527
> How do you grab a land that you've resided on for thousands of years?
Germans had been in Czechia for almost 1000 years. Your point?
> The ADL
The ADL will also run stories about how cartoon frogs are subliminal Nazi messages. Who gives a shit?

>>17839075
The Palestinian movement doesn't have a shred resembling a real national movement, Never built anything for the betterment of their own people, Never put actual self-determination at the highest priority even when given the choice multiple times, Never reconciliated on borders while having nothing to begin with, And the particular land itself has no influence on the said culture (Being in a place isn't enough, You need history, story, language, calendar, costumes etc).. It's a movement built entirely on negation. Without Israel Palestianism doesn't exist, It's just Arabs, That was something even "Palestinians" themselves acknowledged between 1948-1967, When both the west bank and gaza were under Jordan and Egypt rule, Before Israel took over.

>>17839303
>The ADL will also run stories about how cartoon frogs are subliminal Nazi messages. Who gives a shit?
that's literally true though

>>17838757
>Buying property in X country means I have the right to establish an apartheid settler colonial state in it

Zionazi crakkka logic is truly astonishing

>>17839530
>You need history, story, language, calendar, costumes etc)
Says shlomo shekelbergstein from Poland? Fuck off parasite

>>17839720
Everything about the Jews is based and directly influence by the land of Israel, The story, their history, language, hebrew calender, their prayers (Palestinians are pray toward Mecca), their genes and their costumes.

Now tell me a single thing that's uniquely Palestinian contrary to Arab which directly influenced and tied to the land, Or at all really.

>>17839545
They're based off a webcomic from years ago.

>>17839530
>The Palestinian movement doesn't have a shred resembling a real national movement
Neither does Zionism
>Never put actual self-determination at the highest priority
Neither did Jews. It was collectively decided at the World Zionist Congress in 1903 to decline the offer of being given a part of Uganda for the creation of a Jewish homeland
>Never reconciliated on borders while having nothing to begin with
They "reconciliated" on borders by the act of at all permitting a Jewish nation in Palestine. Yes, Jews would then sabotage the best shot there has ever been at creating peace when Israel insisted on even more Palestinian land beyond the 1949 armistice lines during the Oslo Accords and Camp David Summit, but that has nothing to do with Palestinians
>And the particular land itself has no influence on the said culture (Being in a place isn't enough, You need history, story, language, calendar, costumes etc)
Their culture is that they're the people who have lived there since at least the Bronze Age, and who practices Islam. You're right, you need a history with the land. It's not enough to just reconstruct a dead language and start LARPing as a people you're barely genetically related to
>It's a movement built entirely on negation
Every culture is defined in relation to the other, you low IQ dreg
>It's just Arabs
Genetic studies tell us otherwise

God I have you fucking subhumans so fucking much

>>17838757
I take it Arab landowners living in Israel today are legally allowed to create a nation on their property, then?
No?
Low IQ spas. Also, I like how you didn't try to avoid the truth, but rather just quickly glossed over it with your "prior to 1948". Because the truth is, Jews only legally owned 9% of all land in Palestine in 1948 lmao

>>17839717
>Says this
>Is Pakistani
So when are the Persianoid mutt squatters decolonising Bharat?

>>17839769
This looks to quite fairly align with the original UN settlement borders, no? They owned a majority of the land, they constituted a majority of the population.
Arabs just thought they could bully them and take the whole thing. They were wrong. They got BTFO. The fact they then lost even more territory is their own fault

>>17839810
>This looks to quite fairly align with the original UN settlement borders
I have no idea, because you're a low IQ brown who can't even properly save an image. Before you fix that though, how about you try to google the actual stats again
>On 1 April 1945, the British administration's statistics showed that Jewish buyers had legal ownership over approximately 5.67% of the Mandate's total land area
>By the end of 1947, Jewish ownership had increased to 6.6%.
There you go. Was that so hard?

>They owned a majority of the land
No

>they constituted a majority of the population
No

>Arabs just thought they could bully them and take the whole thing
It was foreigners """bullying""" the local population of Palestine by entering their land with enormous amounts of capital from the developed world, and commencing a nation building project on the Palestinians' ancestral land

>>17839826
As you can see, the vast majority of land was uncultivated nothing. Virtually all of the land allotted to the Jewish state was either uncultivated or Jewish owned. You are trying, desperately, to imply Arabs owned 95% and Jews just got the borders they did for no good reason. When, in reality, virtually all the owned land in the territory allotted to the Jews was owned by Jews. Most of the 95% you’re hoping to imply was owned by Arabs was owned by no one, because it was uncultivated desert. Most of the land owned by Arabs was consolidated into the territory allotted for Arabs.
>No
In the Jewish partitioned territory there was a Jewish supermajority
>In 1948, the population of Israel was approximately 806,000, with a significant Jewish majority (630,000) alongside Arab and Christian minorities.
>muh ancestral land
Purchasing real estate at mutually agreed prices (which were massively inflated in the Arabs favour btw) is not bullying. That’s just sellers remorse. Take this victimhood shit to twitter.

>>17839874
>You are trying, desperately, to imply Arabs owned 95% and Jews just got the borders they did for no good reason
Well, yes, they do in fact own that land, by virtue of being its ancestral people, you low IQ fucking cretin. Just like some Arab cannot come to my country and establish an Arab state here, neither should a Jew be allowed to enter a country and establish a Jewish nation there

But let's for a moment pretend that your worldview isn't that of a below average performing child and let's do the math:
Jews owned less than 7% of the land
Cultivated land owned by Jews amounted to 420k acres against Arabs' 5.5 million acres, which pretty much perfectly tracks with the 7% of total land figure as well
Despite this, Jews were allotted 50% of the total land of Palestine

Could you tell me how you think this adds up?

>which were massively inflated in the Arabs favour btw
This is the second time you've repeated this point. It's saying literally nothing, it's just womanish hysterics

>Purchasing real estate at mutually agreed prices
Creating a nation in another people's land, even if you've legally purchased 7% of the area (after which you'll then go on to claim 50% of the total territory), has nothing to do with seller's remorse on the Palestinians' part

>muh ancestral land
Confirmed bugman. Are you Indian then?

>>17839902
No, no “in fact” they don’t. You own land if you have a legal dominion over it. By this logic 0% of Palestine was actually owned by Jews since your definition of land ownership has nothing to do with legal title, or even economic use, but just a vague blood & soil emotional entitlement. Which simply is not how reality works.
>Cultivated land owned by Jews amounted to 420k acres against Arabs' 5.5 million acres,
This is, again, hoping to get away with presuming the 95% that wasn’t owned by Jews was owned by Arabs. The entire colony was only 6.39 million acres, of which 70% belonged to the state AKA the British authorities. Again, this is plainly bullshit as your stats are, admittedly, not based on any economic or legal reality but on feelings and dreams that it’s the inherent property of the Palestinian volk because they wuz Canaanites or some such hokum.
>Confirmed bugman. Are you Indian then?
Fuming mad about Israel for no reason
Randomly lashing out at jeets
Pretending to be white
Yup, it’s a Paki.

>>17839756
Jews got to keep their culture because they lived and sided with the enemy (Persians or Romans), as traitors.

Whereas Palestinians stayed and defended the land, requesting the help of insular Arabs, and thus made the small compromise of assimilating to them. Despite this, they still have remnants of their previous culture like the Levantine in their language, fellah farmer lifestyle, the keffiyeh itself a symbol of fishing towns and Phoenician ancestry, the dabke dance, local foods (like akkawi cheese), its personal military history vs. the Crusades in Jaffa and Jerusalem etc.

>>17839950
That’s literally the opposite of what happened. It was the Pharisees, the direct ancestors of modern Orthodox Jews, that were constantly starting shit with the Romans and chimping out. To the point the Romans waged multiple brutal wars against them and ultimately scattered them out of Palestine, in fact that’s why the land was renamed Palestine from Judea. It was the Edomites that ball-licked the Romans and formed the Herodian monarchy.
The scenario with Persia was completely different as the ancestors of modern Jews didn’t even live in Palestine at the time, the Babylonians resettled them
In Babylon. And none of the indigenous Canaanites ruled Palestine, the Babylonians did. Persia’s war in the region was just imperialist on imperialist violence and absolutely no one was sorry to see Babylon go, they were total dicks by all accounts.
>Whereas Palestinians stayed and defended the land, requesting the help of insular Arabs,and thus made the small compromise of assimilating to them
This has got to be bait. Defended the land with the help of the Arabs from who?

>>17839950
The Palestinian long-history encompasses also the Hyksos who defended the land from the Pharoahs, and the many arch-leaders therein (like Abdi-Heba) who shook off the Assyrian emperors.

In the Christian era, they defended the land from mixed jews and Persian empires. They built the famous churches and sepulchres, celebrating Christ's victory over the exiled unbelieving (as foretold in Daniel 9).

In the medieval era, they defend the land from the atheistic Hakim, "the mad caliph", and defeated franks, and the mongols at ayn jalut. This mogs anything in jewish history

>>17839962
From Byzantines and Sassanids, in that era, when Jews started living among Romans and Persian territories

>>17839943
>Which simply is not how reality works
That is literally how every modern nation works, you inbred. Can you show me one country in which you would be permitted to create your own, independent nation within its borders, only provided that this particular small slice of land is your legal property? Of course, the whole situation is muddied by that it wasn't on paper "their land", since they had lived under foreign occupation for the last many hundreds of years, but viewed through a modern lens, Palestine absolutely is their land

>of which 70% belonged to the state AKA the British
Yes. And in every, single other example in the history of modern era decolonisation processes, the colonial power gradually grants authority and self-determination to the ancestral population of whatever land the colonial power was squatting on. Not to a foreign people with no real relation to the land, whose land purchases only amount to 7% of that land lmao
Also, I already told you that we can pretend your narrative isn't 70 IQ. In this magical world where, despite being tethered to nothing tangible, "legal ownership" as it is written on paper and sheeet trumps everything, by what magical calculation would a people whose legal ownership amounts to just 7% of the actual, cultivated land, be allotted 50% of the total area by the British authorities?

>reality but on feelings and dreams that it’s the inherent property of the Palestinian volk because they wuz Canaanites or some such hokum
Your argument can literally be reduced to that a people who has been living in an area for at least the last five thousand years make for a less legitimate nation than one created by foreign investors of mostly Italian descent LARPing as ancient Israelites. If you don't want to be called a pajeet, don't say pajeet shit

>Yup, it’s a Paki.
Come on lol. Now post your little brown, mongrel hand or gracefully concede, after which I'll then apologize for my tone and thank you for owning it

>>17839985
You mean the Romans that had ruled the land for like 700 years by this point and had universally joined the Christian religion that came from there? By this point Syro-Palestinians and Greeks were the same religion and often spoke the same language. The Arabs were undeniably the invaders in this scenario.

>>17839990
Do you think Native Americans own all the public land in America because it’s their “ancestral land”? No, that’s retarded. What you are talking about is not a modern lens, it’s blood and soil nationalism, it doesn’t suddenly become enlightened because the beneficiaries are brown like yourself - contrary to leftist belief.
>be allotted 50% of the total area by the British authorities
You mean there area where of that 50% they constituted a majority? That’s why. Weird how this decolonisationist obsession with majority rule doesn’t apply to non-browns.
>f you don't want to be called a pajeet, don't say pajeet shit
Lmao, Abdul thinks he passes for white with that complexion and with this Cold War ass Mugabe tier ideology.

>>17840010
>Do you think Native Americans own all the public land in America because it’s their “ancestral land”? No, that’s retarded.
The process that displaced Native Americans began in a completely different world, not in the 1940s, in a period when the entire rest of the world was already entering a decolonisation process. Even then, Native Americans are still afforded some pretty big benefits, all things considered. Meanwhile, Israel has shown absolutely zero humility or regret about the circumstances of its creation

>it’s blood and soil nationalism
Yes, which sort of remains the only mechanisms by which modern nation-states are nation-states, even today. We could literally repurpose your argument into "fuck borders n shieeeet", which really isn't compatible with, I assume, your otherwise /pol/tard worldview

>You mean there area where of that 50% they constituted a majority
A population half that of the Arab population constitutes a majority in 50% of Palestine's territories? Even the map you posted yourself tell you that even a function with its cell size specifically picked to maximise Israeli territory wouldn't ever spit out a number even nearing the 50% figure that was in fact allotted to them by the British lmao

>Lmao, Abdul thinks he passes for white with that complexion
You're reaching now. Despite everything you've said so far, I still don't believe you're low IQ enough to not know what a whyte person looks like. Also feel free to post your height too so we're even

>>17840010
>posting a white hand means your white
post your 23andme and detailed reports of the regions in which your ancestors were born, otherwise, you shall be considered brown

>>17836694
Why is it a bad thing to decide not to take a side? Why must everyone pick a side?
The whole "I hope u all kill each others" stems from the fact that the more you read about this conflict, the more you come to the realization that both sides have done / are doing malicious things and both sides has tried to keep this conflict alive for the past 70 years, and both sides are active in a propaganda campaign to make everyone else become involved.

It's also the fact that westerners have a real fatigue when it comes to both jews and Arabs in the west. The Arab diaspora engaging in chaos and crime and corruption as western society turns increasingly brown and unlivable, and the Jewish diaspora actively engaging in political, cultural and educational subversion by endlessly shilling for damaging communist rhetoric and policies mainly through the media. I dont believe in a collective Jewish conspiracy like stormfags but I do recognize the fact that jews in the west needs to start stfu.

>>17840061
western communist "jews" =/= jews. Many of them aren't even real jews at all and just claim they are as a "shield" from criticism. This phenomenon blew up after oct 7 with schizo antisemities larping as jews.
If you lurk in jewish communities they expose them all the time.
I my self got a tankie shut down who falsely claimed to be jewish while advocating for genocide of jews.

>>17840119
The pattern I've recognized is that there is a stark difference in jews living in the west and jews living in Israel.
Call them globalist jews and nationalistic jews.
The Israeli jew is pretty based and quite frankly not so far from the average western person. Israel has its own political divide and same kinde of culture war between leftists and conservatives but every now and then Arab violent autism unifies them.

The globalist jew are the ones living in USA, France, Britain Sweden, Belgium etc. They vary from being massive financial shatks to being petty journalists, but they always share the same ideology which is unironically a strong resentment towards zionism and towards conservative values in the west. Basivally they don't want a place for jews, they want jews to remain in the west, but also want a neutered west. They always propagandacize for destroying traditional families and social values, embrace mass migration and feminism etc (often the most radical aspects of these ideologies too).
They will never work in blue collar jobs like truck driver, plumber, cook, electrician etc, they must only work in anything related to media, education, politics, finances, culture etc, where they can have the maximum reach of influence.
And again, they strongly resent zionism and Israel.

>>17840152
>strongly resent zionism and israel
Which is why nearly every US senator is controlled by jews, for jews and has visited the wall of tears
Right

>>17840047
>white hand
Posting a white hand means you're an uruk-hai or even fucking Saruman.

Muslims lost sorely and made a whole abloobloobloo story out of it

>>17840061
>It's also the fact that westerners have a real fatigue when it comes to both jews and Arabs in the west.
I barely see any Jews. I see way too many Muslims and other brownoids. Why do ten million Jews bother you so much? Why does one percent of the Middle East being owned by Jews bother you so much?

You don’t even need to bring up history to acknowledge that Palestinians are coming across as petty and pathetic and refuse to cease for the sake of their kids.

They. Don’t. Care. Lol.