Thread 17844945

There is no justification or argument for Hell being a just or necessary place.

>>17844945 (OP)
The bible says so

>>17844954
That is not a justification

>>17844945 (OP)
It always warms my heart to see a worthless frogposter stumbling blindly into the great burn pit. Have fun burning, rodent.

>>17844964
You'll be there with me.

Either there's a Loving God or there's Hell. There can't be both.

>>17844967
>You'll be there with me.
Sorry, I have to take that away from you; I'm never going. It's impossible for me to be separated from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus. Oops!
>>17844970
>Either there's a Loving God or there's Hell. There can't be both.
You should try using that argument when you stand before the Lord for judgment. I can't wait to see your face when you realize it doesn't work. :)

The irony is that a lot of Christian Theologicians agree with OP, the particular Christians on this board are just the absolute bottom-of-the-barrel retards that don't want to discuss anything in good faith. I sometimes think most of them are just Misotheists pretending to be Christians just to make Christianity look bad.

>>17844977
Do you know better than God who goes to hell and who goes to heaven?

>>17844977
You already have shown that you are separated from Jesus, and if you continue down this path, you will burn in the lake of fire.

>>17844996
Misotheism would make sense if Christians like >>17844964 weren't wrong. I'd prefer to believe they are wrong, though.

>>17844956
It's the ultimate proof

>>17844970
There's a hell because there's a loving God.

>>17845026
Wrong. And still not an argument.

>>17845026
Hell is eternal, life isn't, by this principle alone Hell can never be justified, it's simple logic anon.

>>17845033
Non sequitur. Do you abuse hard drugs?

>Non sequitur. Do you abuse hard drugs?
Great, the schizo discovered a new stim, expect to see this more now whenever he's losing an argument, I wonder if his parents are also in Hell or are going to be

>>17845041
The logic follows. There is nothing you do in this mortal plane that is eternal ergo no punishment should be eternal.

>>17845012
You're nuts!
>>17845005
Nope. I know exactly the criteria he is going to use. Tick tock.

>>17845017
>If the Bible is true, I hate God
I can't wait to hear your screams. Enjoy Hell.

What's more, OP, if God is real and sends the faithless to Hell, its even worse than it not being necessary or just; its straight up evil and would thus call to question why one would worship God at all rather than just viewing him as a sadistic tyrant.

>>17845049
Don't bother, it's the "enjoy hell" schizo, he picked up on that canned line and is now just going to copy+paste it without reason. This thread is basically over

>>17845047
>I wonder if his parents are also in Hell or are going to be
Nope, I saved both of them from the fire. Tick tock!

>>17845047
Take your meds, and not the illicit ones this time
>>17845049
1. Every sin against the infinite Lord is eternal
2. The reprobate do not cease sinning in bell, as if being put under God's wrath gave them a righteous nature. On the contrary their evil would only increase

>>17845059
Yeah, sadly the schizotard has shat up the thread with his stupidity. Oh well.

>>17845062
>parents who beat their children get into heaven
You're not doing God any favors anon

>>17845059
>it's the "enjoy hell"
Nope. Pic related. Your pattern recognition is 100% worthless.
>schizo
Nope. I'm the very picture of mental health. Good job slandering God's elect, make sure you stoke those flames and get them as hot as possible.

>>17845063
>1. Every sin against the infinite Lord is eternal
So the infinite, all knowing, all powerful Lord created people to torture them eternally.

>>17845070
Yes.

>>17845069
You're a psychotic nutcase.

>>17845069
>Nope. Pic related. Your pattern recognition is 100% worthless.
I concede, it seems like there is another schizo to add to the list then, because I've seen both you and this other retard shitting up threads repeating the same lines ad nauseam

>>17845067
I'm sorry your parents didn't love you. I guess that explains why you turned out to be such a loser.
>>17845066
>shat up the thread
Sorry, your brain seems broken. This thread began with a frogpost, it was always completely trash. The fact you don't understand that speaks volumes about your ability to make value judgments. What a waste of brain.

>>17845068
If objective morality exists, the rules apply to both humans and God; if they only apply to humans, but not God, then objective morality doesn't exist and instead we merely have a list of prescriptions God hypocritically only wants us to follow.

It is wrong for the child to hit, but its wrong for the parent to hit too.

>>17845077
>You're a psychotic nutcase.
Those flames just got hotter.

>>17845080
>I'm sorry your parents didn't love you. I guess that explains why you turned out to be such a loser.
My parents didn't beat me

>>17845082
>It is wrong for the child to hit, but its wrong for the parent to hit too.
That's not what the Bible teaches. Enjoy Hell.

>>17845082
God is the basis of objective morality.
>God has to follow the rules I arbitrarily set for Him
Imagine the hubris

>>17845073
So God violates his own morality?

>>17845087
>My parents didn't beat me
Right, because they hated you.

>>17845079
Are you on drugs right now?

I guess heaven is just full of parents who beat their kids, who would've thought?

>>17845095
No.

>>17845093
Do you have trouble with reading comprehension like this often? Let me dumb down what I said to help you a little bit. I said that God creates objective morality, it would be wrong under God's law for you to torture someone eternally, or even finitely in a temporary way, thus if you violate God's law by torturing then God also violates his own law by torturing which calls into question the nature of God's law.

>>17845103
So Hell doesn't exist then.
Good talk. Thanks for finally conceding the point.

>>17845104
There is no law which binds God.

>>17845107
No problem, when is the reassignment surgery?

>>17845108
If God creates objective morality, he embodies that objective morality. Otherwise its not objective, but just the subjective preferences God wants humans in particular to subjectively follow; either God made a moral form objective to the fabric of existence, or he didn't, and is just telling us to follow certain rules that he doesn't follow himself.

>>17845113
Unlike Christians I'm not a tranny pedophile who has to hide the shame over my perversions with Bible quotes.

>>17845098
Sadly I have not prepared any Calamus or Cannibus in order to produce Anointing Oil as is the art of Apothecary

>>17844945 (OP)
>christian leaves thread after getting exposed and destroyed in argument
Many such cases.

isn't the entire purpose of hell to explain where evil people go that are incapable of accepting jebus into their lives which isn't a problem for 90% of people who generally believe in an ideas of truth and justice?

>>17845155
no.
you go to hell just for not believing in god in this life.

>>17845168
>you go to hell just for not believing in god in this life.
Actually, it's still debatable whether or not atheists go to hell, since skepticism isn't a sin, I think you're confusing atheists for misotheists

>>17845168
Take the doctrinal adherence out of the equation and look at what hell actually accomplishes. It's not a punishment, it's an explanation for evil. Satan has to exist because evil exists and thus hell has to exist because evil people exist. Since all Christianity really is is an explanation for why human society is so chaotic and to some apparently evil. It tells them not to worry about the evil because as long as they worry about their own salvation they will be okay. It's essentially a giant coping mechanism. Therefor as a coping mechanism, what can be more reassuring of your position than imagining evil people burning in hell for all eternity

>>17845181
Also this shares a lot of similarities to other world religions. especially asian ones which instead of telling you to stay in your lane and the evil people will be taken care of, it says to stay in your lane and you will be richly rewarded with immortality. Although I guess the argument can be made that heaven is just a form of immortality

>>17845073
Christsharts literally believe this which only proves that the so-called "God" they're worshipping (assuming he exists) is some kind of lower being, like an evil demon or something. Crazy how Christsharts will say that God is Love and in the next breath say that 2Yeah he's torturing you for eternity because of how much he loves you". Shit makes no sense. Maybe the Gnostics were right after all.

>>17844964
>AAAAH NOOOOO NOT THE JEW MAGIC LAND NOOOOO

>>17844945 (OP)
You are bad so go to the bad place

>>17844945 (OP)
Also hell isn't physical

>>17845155
It staryed as a revenge fantasy for evil people but devolved into "believe everything we say or else" because once other christians start asking what the exact rules are you can't say works or some of them might worry about past sins so now it's just "you have to believe"