Thread 17846535

The reason there are so many immigrants today is because colonizers ruined the home countries of many browns by exploitation of the people and land, so naturally people will immigrate for a better life

Why can't they build their own countries and society and live a better life there?

>>17846538
Because the colonizers ruined it and turned the elite against each other. It takes multiple generations for the issues to be fixed. The colonizers aren't fully to blame but it is silly to pretend as if meddling with a country's affairs is not going to ruin that country. It took China generations before they could have full sovereignty within their borders

The reason why there are so many immigrants is moral weakness and political castration. Ignorant libtards will never know the full effects of their retarded open borders experiments and even if they did, they're hateful enough to burden infrastructure simply out of spite for the civilization that their forefathers created.

the reason there are so many immigrants today is because rich westerners all want to live like faux kings and plantation owners while working bullshit jobs
but there are no colonies anymore to siphon shit directly from, so the owners of places have to bring their human capital here to keep their artificial economies workig

>>17846544
It's an oppressive social construct chud

>>17846535 (OP)
>>17846544
>>17846545
which way /his/?

>>17846544
The reason so many immigrants exist is because their home countries are shit (due to foreign meddling). And also the idolization of our countries. If America conquers a shithole in Central America or replace a democratically elected ruler and that country turns to shit and we have to invade it, they will either 1) hate us and want to kill us or 2) treat us like gods and want to copy us. Look at Korea, which is still an American vassal state. They still haven't fully recovered ever since being a Japanese (and then American) vassal.

>>17846548
>Look at Korea
It's great except their TFR unless you mean Best Korea

>immigration is a punishment because you are genetically evil
Wierd avenue for leftists to go down.

The reason there are so many immigrants is shit farts, piss and cock; plus I like having sex with brown women.

>>17846543
Nations can recover within a decade, it seems they just prefer to destroy other countries while lashing out under the accusation of "colonialism" instead of rehabilitate themselves so that at least their future generations can enjoy the fruits

>>17846554
Nice strawman. No person is evil for their skin color. But actions have consequences. I am not saying your ancestors were evil for trying to experiment with globalism but the fact of the matter is that they did and their actions in meddling in countries (and exploring the world in general) affairs leads to mass migration of people.
>>17846552
Korea should be one country, not two. Until is unified it is a failure. And we (Americans) are partially to blame.

>>17846535 (OP)
White trannies will seethe at this

>>17846571
>I'm not saying
>but

>>17846583
Yeah, I didn't say you were evil. But your actions do indeed have consequences. Stop trying to derail the thread and actually debunk my arguments

>>17846560
based take

>>17846554
Not OP, but yes you can absolutely use that line of reasoning because you believe immigration is bad. A leftist does not believe this however they can use your own ideas against you, such as genetics determining the moral status of a people, it's called an internal critique. And the person doing it absolutely does not have to hold onto any of your beliefs, he just has to link them together in a way that would show you how moronic you are being

>>17846586
What actions?

>>17846586
>Stop trying to derail and actually argue.
that's a big ask around here

>>17846594
>immigration is good
>that's why we are comparing it to imperialism which was bad

>>17846605
No, you are the one calling them invaders. And so if you believe imperialism is good then likewise immigration should also be good. But you're all hypocrites who think it's only okay when you do it

>>17846607
OPs pic is litterally the same scenario with the races reversed anon...

>>17846598
Creating a global empire + meddling with the political affairs of foreign nations and disregarding their sovereignty = millions, if not billions of changs, jeets, and ngobos at your doorstep. I mean, there were jeets in England since the 1700s. The truth is, when these empires conquered other nations and decided they wanted to rule the world, they were basically saying "okay" to globalism. People have been complaining about "immigrants" since the beginning of time. Oog Boog doesn't like that Og Chog came from a different cave but is fucking all the women in his cave. Changs were a huge issue in the late 19th century to Micks who thought they should get the same rights as their fellow whites, while the Anglo-American said "fuck that", and still hired more changs. But they were all part of the same huge globalist story which all starts with imperialism.

>>17846611
Nope that's only the case in your mind which is why this line of reasoning works so well against you. The people in OPs image are peacefully responding to the military aggression of the first group, not because they want to seek revenge but because you ruined their society and thy just want a better life for themselves.

>>17846618
So if white Europeans peacefully respond to preserve their way of life, that's fine, right?

>>17846623
If they peacefully responded, yes.

>>17846623
Yes it's fine. However neonazis are not peaceful whatsoever

>>17846626
>>17846627
Cool. White rights are human rights. It's OK to be white. White pride, worldwide.

>>17846535 (OP)
>Brits modernised India over a century ago therefore pajeets should rape British girls today

>>17846629
There's nothing wrong with that. The problem begins when you start infringing upon the rights of others

>>17846629
Okay, good for you. Are you so goddamn self-hating that you seriously need anons on 4chan to tell you that it's okay to be white? You care far too much about what leftists think.

>>17846634
>>17846635
Confirmed that it's OK to be white, proud to be white and that defending white countries from outsiders is good.

>>17846637
>outsiders
These people already live here and are citizens so I hope you don't mean some draconian measures upon them that will make their life miserable. otherwise all is good

>>17846633
>Brits modernised India over a century ago
If they "modernized" India, there wouldn't be a shitton of immigrants today, wouldn't there?
>>17846637
>defending white countries
That's not responding peacefully though. But let's stop derailing the thread and get back on topic - you wouldn't have to "defend" shit if you never went to their countries in the first place and meddled with their domestic affairs. If you actually "modernized" these countries like you claim you do, they wouldn't have to immigrate. Shit tons of Chinese used to immigrate because the century of humiliation was a shit time for the Chinese. However the CCP improved the material conditions of the country, less of them immigrated for long term reasons (most of them immigrate now to get the degree and go back to their country, which is why a lot of jeets also immigrate here. They usually don't intend on staying here, they just want to get the degree and get the fuck out so they can be kings in their own country).

>>17846535 (OP)
Nah.its because traitors changed the laws to allow non whites into destroy white civilization. Non whites have always wanted in, but now they are allowed to come.

>>17846544
/thread/
The migrant crisis can be solved in a few months if the leaders weren't so spineless

>>17846535 (OP)
Karma exist
If you don't want to be invaded don't invade others first

>>17846640
They can peacefully have their citizenship revoked. All peacefully. All legally.

>>17846645
>you wouldn't have to "defend" shit if you never went to their countries in the first place and meddled with their domestic affairs.
And instantly back to >>17846554

>>17846655
>They can peacefully have their citizenship revoked
>hurr just split up a family because it will all go so well
There's nothing peaceful about that. These people are established here and that move would lead to termination of their employment, the right to use their own bank accounts, property, etc. It's equivalent to theft and so you're back to where you started with your initial aggression.

>>17846658
Why wouldn't they obey the law?

>>17846645
Immigrants come here because they know they’ll get free gibs

>>17846659
The vast majority are obeying the law. You want to make it impossible for them to do that.

>>17846652
Yeah, like Ukraine.

>>17846662
The law says they aren't citizens any more. How is that not peaceful?

>>17846655
Yes colonial countries don't deserve to have ethnostate. If it happens that:
>Europe for native Europeans
>Africa for native Africans
>Asia for native Asians
Then it should also be that:
>America for native Americans
>Australia for native Australians
Not for colonizers. This is true justice

>>17846668
I just explained to you how. If the law says they have to be executed will you also say it's peaceful? For some reason you're okay with theft but let's see if you're also okay with genocide.

>>17846667
It's just American puppet Slavs vs Putin puppet Slavs. They're exact same people just different politics

>>17846655
>And instantly back to >>17846554
White people objectively made a huge mistake in meddling in other people's affairs. That's not saying they're evil, it's saying they fucked up huge.
>be anglo in 1700s
>conquer jeetland
>begin the mass exodus of jeets across the globe
>"VGH i want that chank pussy and tea m8"
>tries to trade with China
>China (wrongfully) acts like an entitled faggot and says no to trade because "muh tradition"
>anglos (wrongfully) sell drugs to the entire Chinese population, goes to war with China so they can sell more drugs
>Qing dynasty becomes a drug-addled empire, century of humiliation exists
>also bring billions of niggers and micks to the new world for indentured servitude and slavery
>be anglo in the late 1800s
>rule america (which used to be filled with reds but you immigrated there btw, and you sure as hell didn't take it peacefully)
>the micks, injuns, jeets, and changs (which immigrated to america cuz china is a shithole, because you sold drugs to them) are all killing each other
>you wonder how this could have possibly happened
Who knew that conquering other people would lead to globalism and immigration? But since I'm a leftist (apparently), actually, I think that's based since we have such a diverse globe now

>>17846675
What is being stolen?

>>17846671
Might makes right. If you can't defend your territory, you don't deserve to rule it.

>>17846679
Their property, bank account, marriage, life, etc.

>>17846671
vae victis

>>17846681
Black subsaharan African migrants are mightier than you

>>17846682
Which was all stolen from the indigenous population. #Landback!

>>17846543
Japan recovered within a few generations.
The rest of you have had hundreds of years.

>>17846689
No it wasn't, they invested in all of them with their own resources and work. You're simply okay with violence (like forced expulsion and forfeiture of property) used against people that do not belong to your tribe. This is what the neonazi will revert to in every case as you have perfectly demonstrated. You're a threat to civil society

>>17846660
This, the welfare system must be destroyed completely, not just for migrants. Millions of these parasites, domestic of foreign, will run away or start looting and get shot.

>>17846658
just suspend their rights. Pakistan got permission from the UN to do that so they could expel millions of afganis in pakistan.

>>17846535 (OP)
wow, maybe browns should have fought harder, I hope Whites remember this and how hard they should fight to prevent browns from colonizing them.

>>17846699
>they invested in all of them with their own resources and work.
Just like white people did overseas.

>>17846633
>Brits killed, invaded and raped but hey they build some roads so its okay

>>17846535 (OP)
Plane allows this to happen wright brothers caused this

>>17846693
Japan never reached their full potential because amerikkka economically crippled them with plaza accord the same tactic amerikkka is currently using to cripple China

>>17846688
Sadly, yes. The fact that these cretins can come here and bully us is proof of our weakness, or at least the lunacy of the traitors we call politicians. We must fall and (hopefully) rise again or be forgotten.

Regular reminder that the reason there's a massive Bangaleshi population in Tower Hamlets in London is because they just turned up and squatted. They weren't invited. They didn't buy houses. They just moved into old buildings and declared they own them now.

who will take all the immigrants minimum wage and labor jobs once they leave?

>>17846545
>rich westerners all want to live like faux kings and plantation owners
please stop including Whites in this because its not "rich westerners" its jews.
>kings
no one wants to be king
>plantation owners
really dropping the race bomb here, no one wants to be a plantation owner.

These are hypercapitalists and jews, they do not want to be anykind of traditional, and honestly shitlibs could do worse than embracing a traditionalist view of the nation.
>siphon from colonies
This never actually happened.
Colonies were always a net drain and the people in the colonies benefitted.
Look at how the United States rose from colony to superpower.
its almost like IQ is determined by genetic factors and high IQ people will always find a way while Low IQ people will always find an excuse.

>>17846709
And all the Brits who did that died over a hundred years ago and modern Brits had nothing to do with it.

>minimum wage
>20 dollars

>>17846706
that's not peaceful, Pakistan doing it and the UN allowing it does not make it so
>>17846708
except in that case they used slave labor and the locals resources without paying for it, so no your analogy fails
>>17846707
those browns don't need to fight they are beyond such primitive measures

>>17846719
>but who will pick the cotton?!

>>17846727
>without paying

>>17846719
the plutocrats will just have to increase the wages. as happened after the black death.
supply and demands.

>>17846735
Yes, when you use slave labor and you extract resources from a land without reimbursing the natives you are just stealing.

>>17846727
somebody needs to read Machiavelli

Remember when they said we should take kitty on the poor pathetic non white migrants because they're all sad refugees who love white people and want to make our nations even more wonderful?

How did it go from that to this, non whites openly calling for the genocide of all whites in white countries while they rape, pillage, and destroy white civilization with no remorse...

>>17846721
lol, most people in the west would cry if they had to live for just a week like their ancestors and people in 3rd world countries live
they are soft and live lives of artificial luxury
thats why we have all this nonsense

>>17846744
>you need to brainwash yourself with the opinions of the white master so I can feel less guilty about my crimes
no

>>17846748
>kitty
Pity

>>17846748
>inb4 not all
doesnt need to be all of them. It is all about percentages.

>>17846752
Yes it does because you aren't guilty for the crimes of someone else. But of course a neonazi will never get this and so enjoy getting invaded lmao
>>17846755
where are the reparations?

>>17846740
So the Bangladeshis stole Towe Hamlets and must be removed to defend the interests of the indigenous population. Got it. #Landback

>>17846761
Might makes right

>>17846761
Anyone who stole must be punished however the vast majority of Bangladeshis did no such thing

>>17846759
>neonazi
this spell does not work anymore.
>where are the reparations?
I wonder the same. when will the turks and tunisians pay their reperations to us?

>>17846764
No but their ancestors did. #Land back They have to return to the place their ancestors came from when they invaded #Landback Indigenous lives matter #Landback

>>17846535 (OP)
not really, capitalism wants cheap work force that will do same job as people living natively in a country, just cheaper. This is strengthened even further by low birth rates. Its a flaw of a system that expects infinite growth.

>>17846765
What spell? You are not only advocating for the same things you also believe in white supremacy. It's the perfect label for you and I don't care if it causes butthurt.
>when will the turks and tunisians pay their reperations to us?
They are providing labor at this very moment to offset the injustice. When will you start?
>>17846767
>No
Thanks for the concession. Indigenous lives are not being endangered when you let the rightful owners of the land who did not steal it by your own admission exist next to you

>>17846778
They didn't steal it but their ancestors did. Ergo to defend the rights of the indigenous, it but return to the original owners #Landback

>>17846778

>you also believe in white supremacy
No I dont :^)

>When will you start?
my country never had colonies. Surely you are not putting all of these so-called crimes on me because of my skin colour?

Indigenous rights must be defended. Colonisers must be removed. Tower Hamlets MUST be handed back to the natives! #Landback

>>17846787
The vast majority of Bangladeshis do not have ancestors that stole any white land. The same cannot be said about your people in relation to other races.
>>17846788
Then why do you want only non-whites out again?
> Surely you are not putting all of these so-called crimes on me because of my skin colour?
I am applying the same standard you are using on others to you. I see you don't like it. So how about you stop doing that to them?

>>17846791
What the FUCK do you mean "your people"?!?!?

>>17846793
I mean the very same people that have practically killed all the natives of two continents

>>17846795
I am not those people.

>>17846811
According to your logic I can blame you for those crimes too because you're genetically closer to them

I hope that whites realize from reading this thread that non whites will destroy them if allowed to. There can be no compromising with them the non white, they are the enemies of God and of all that God loves. Our white ancestors were correct regarding the non white, and we were fools to think they did not do as they did for righteous reasons.

>>17846535 (OP)
>colonizers ruined the home countries

Doesn't apply to Africa and I seriously doubt it applies to India

>>17846548
>because their home countries are shit (due to foreign meddling).

The thing is their home countries have always been shit.
Colonial rule improved them somewhat, but not to the point of making them equal to Europe.
It's time to stop making excuses and accept that inferior culture produce inferior living standards.
African cultures are inferior. Indian culture is inferior.
And logically, when these people become too numerous somewhere, theplace goes to shit.

>>17846818
Where did you get the idea that non whites want to destroy you from this thread? You are the ones who are pushing for violence, domination and eradication when they simply want to coexist. The fact you're upset that your logic can be used against you is testament to how evil you are.

>>17846832
>hur dur I didn't actually mean kill all white people and steal their kingdom
Yeah, sure, lol

>>17846836
Nobody said that you fucking retard. Immigration is not murder nor is it theft. Your very deity was an immigrant

>>17846535 (OP)
Based. I see it as simply us taking back what was stolen. This could’ve been avoided if timmies had the decency to pay reparations but it seems like making timmies go extinct is the better outcome for everyone

Basically yes

>steal all the worlds stuff

>kvetch when immigrants go to where all the wealth and economy is

>>17846749
>lol, most people in the west would cry if they had to live for just a week like their ancestors and people in 3rd world countries live
>they are soft and live lives of artificial luxury
>thats why we have all this nonsense
not really, maybe for browns but Whites are just a consistently hard people. No other race could produce neo nazis in a first world country and when browns invade White countries brown births plummet below White births.
Whites are unironically the most resilient and durable race.

>>17846846
>steal the world's stuff
What factories did the world have
how many trains were stolen?

>>17846852
all of those were created to facilitate the extraction of the native's resources

>>17846847
>No other race could produce neo nazis in a first world country
Japan has literal neonazis
>plummet
And that's because of your doing lmao? They aren't established in the land so of course they wouldn't start families. Anyway don't you retards keep crying about white replacement?

>>17846852
Wealth isn’t measured in trains or in factories timmy

>>17846839
>Immigration is not murder nor is it theft.
Immigration is, effectively, both murder and theft. Which is why all non-whites should immediately be recognized as enemies and purged. Or don't, and all whites will be murdered and their kingdom will be stolen.

>>17846876
You saying something is the case without justifying it does not make it so. A non-white neighbor does not necessitate anything being stolen or anyone being harmed in any way. You're just a pathetic extremist who doesn't know anything outside of what /pol/tards brainwashed him with

>>17846538
Most of the colonial states are all artificially drawn with major faultlines that ensured poltics remain divided into tribal lines. This was worse than any material exploitation.

>>17846847
bud most "neo nazis" are incels and browns

>>17846885
>without justifying it
I am justified, non whites will steal the inheritance of whites if allowed and furthermore, non whites will supplant and drive whites to extinction, murder them, just like how weeds destroy a garden if allowed to.

>>17846905
>will
oh so it's just head canon I see, people aren't plants youidiot

>>17846908
Yes, will. That is literally why non whites come to white kingdoms, to steal from whites. You can try to say it isn't theft, but they are still stealing. Taking a place in a white kingdom, benefitting from the white kingdom in a way that a non white never has deserved. They, the non white, are very much like weeds in so much as they provide no benefit and destroy what whites have spent millennia cultivating.

>>17846718
Dont leave hundreds of empty homes if you don't want someone to move in

>>17846960
>If I don't steal it someone else will
Don't leave tens of thousands of acres of empty land if you don't want someone to move it.

I know when it comes to Africa, the "we poor because whitey stole our shit" is bullcrap as colonial rule lasted for only 80 years and africa was even poorer before.

Don't know much about India, but I have hard time believing they used to be wakanda and shit before Britain invaded.

>>17846535 (OP)
It has little to do with Colonialism and more to do with Capitalism. Either the Capital goes to the labor, or the labor goes to the Capital. It's why so much shit is made in India, China, etc. Check your home appliances or towels. Your towels are likely made from India.