Thread 17850516

It Seems like the Tarim_MLBA were 100% andronovo, stj was right as always

link:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960982225008152?via=ihub

>>17850516 (OP)
They were literally blond and ginger. It was obvious.

>>17850516 (OP)
That's hardly surprising as there were already Andronovo-like samples from LBA Tarim.

>cities they established
Kek, not in the Bronze Age. If anything the cities got established by their mixed descendants.

>>17850516 (OP)
>stj was right as always
He said republican romans were french like when that wasn't the case at all

>>17850557
he said southwest french, not french

>>17850562
>he said
No, and they aren't sw french either

>>17850567
he said that, cope, and now it turns out he was tight about the aryans too

>>17850570
See:
>>17850538
There's nothing new about those samples.

>>17850570
Republican romans overlap with iberians, it was clearly spelled in the study he was commenting. STJ is a LARPy unreliable source

>>17850516 (OP)
this english retard needs to be bombed by irish or muslims or stabbed by blacks

>>17850516 (OP)
i want to add something, these mlba samples are from 2000-1500 bce, aligning with Xiaohe culture, so probably the blonde Xiaohe mummies are represented by these samples and not the earlier ANE-rich samples

>>17850586
I mean, the samples are new, but they cluster with the earlier Tarim_LBA samples.

>>17850586
>>17850587
stj is reliable, you lost, andronovo were blonde nordics

>>17850530
ANE were just Yamnaya without brown admixture from CHG, WHG and ENF, it's perfectly plausible that they looked White, they were the original Hyperboreans.

>>17850516 (OP)
That guy is a retard, the mummies are still ANE, the paper is talking about later samples that have nothing to do with the mummies

>>17850604
the blonde mummies are from 2000-1000 bce, the ane rich samples are outside this range, the mummies were just andronovo must likely

There are all kinds of mummies there.

>>17850619
i'm a mummy too

>>17850516 (OP)
the andronovo were more relevant than the romans and greeks imo

>>17850604
No. Andronovo got their light features from raping GAC. This makes more sense.

>>17850633
GAC got their light features from ANE

>>17850633
jeetcope

>>17850516 (OP)
I pointed that out 8 years. STJ is a retard and nearly always wrong in his claims.

>>17850538
>Andronovo-like samples from LBA Tarim.
Yes, but the dumb chink scientists didn't catch that. Unlike STJ and the Chinese, I predicted steppe_MLBA samples in Tarim by 2200 - 1800 BC because of archaeological evidence in the surrounding areas.
>If anything the cities got established by their mixed descendants.
The first cities were established by BMAC. They grew later on because of the Silk Road.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/antiquity/article/abs/existence-of-andronovo-cultural-influence-in-xinjiang-during-the-2nd-millennium-bc/B011571D9754A7894E38911AB02126C9

>>17850587
>Republican romans overlap with iberians
They don't. Iberians are a bit closer than Italians on PCA, but their source of Roman ancestry is Imperial.

>>17850599
There are no blonde Xiaohe mummies. The ones in Xiaohe are dark-haired.

>>17850604
>ANE where chinks
>CHG where brown churkas
>EEF where brown
>WHG where where brown sonner

So where the fuck does whites/nords even come from

>>17850879
shgs is the ultimate source of all light features

>>17850516 (OP)
>This is what Aryans looked like

>>17850879
>ANE where chinks
At the time of the ANE ethnogenesis 40,000 years ago, east eurasian and west eurasian had hardly diverged, they expanded out of the same middle eastern source population 50,000 years ago, so I would read too much I to their 20% proto-east Asian admixture. ANE would subsequently spend tens of thousands of years isolated on the ice age mammoth steppe where they would develop many of the characteristics which make modern Aryan peoples phenotypically and behaviorally unique.

>>17850920
Scandinavian hunter gatherers were basically just a western population of ANE. No human population is from Scandinavia, which was under a mile of ice for most of the last 100,000 years. Our racial urheimat is on the mammoth steppe of ice age eastern Siberia.

>Evolution of blond hair
Blond hair is associated with a single nucleotide polymorphism, the mutated allele rs12821256 of the KITLG gene.[82][83][84][85][86] The earliest known individual with this allele is a female south-central Siberian ANE individual from the Afontova Gora 3 site, which is dated to c.17,000 before present (the earlier ANE Mal'ta boy lacks the sequence coverage to make this determination).[87] The allele then appears later in ANE-derived Eastern Hunter-Gatherer (EHG) populations at Samara, Motala and Ukraine, circa 10,000 BP, and then in populations with Steppe ancestry.[76] Mathieson, et al. (2018) thus argued that this allele originated in the Ancient North Eurasian population, before spreading to western Eurasia.[76]

>Geneticist David Reich said that the KITLG gene for blond hair probably entered continental Europe in a population migration wave from the Eurasian steppe, by a population carrying substantial Ancient North Eurasian ancestry.[88] The gene was also found among the Tarim mummies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_North_Eurasian#Evolution_of_blond_hair

>>17850940
>Scandinavian hunter gatherers were basically just a western population of ANE
You are retarded

>>17850940
shgs were much more whg than ane
>Blond hair is associated with a single nucleotide polymorphism, the mutated allele rs12821256
lol, lmao even, rs12821256 is pretty irrelevant, only increases the chances of blonde hairs a bit, who knows why Reich made such a big deal out of it, also it's too rare, with only 1 or 2% of northern europeans having derived alleles in rs12821256 for it to be relevant to blonde hairs in europeans

>>17850879
ANE were brown abos not brown chinks

>>17851102
Did ANE have genetics for low muscle mass just like brown abos have?

>>17851402
They were also brown short and gracile like Afontova Gora

>>17851407
Did they have low androgenicity just like the ancient and modern indians do?

>>17851411
Yes just like latrinos and pajeets

>>17851473
Latinos dont have that, only jeets have had narrower skeletons than the world average since the holocene.

>>17851481
Nah latrinos are obese with low muscle mass that's why they can't win any medals in weightlifting no different from pajeets both of them suck

>>17851484
They have athletes unlike pajeets who have none

>>17851501
You have nothing. Well you do kick ball decently, but Italians and Africans are better than you. Germans and Egyptians too.

>>17851508
jeets are the one who nothing, literally zero athletes in any sport that isn't cricket(a golf-tier "sport")

>>17850920
SHG dna is sub 5% in the most SHG population in the world.
It’s an uncomfortable truth but WHG, EHG, ANE, and CHG were all likely very White passing if not indistinguishable from White people.
CHG had blue eyes and were lighter than WHG. WHG had brown hair and blue eyes. ANE had blonde hair (not all of them) having the gene means they can have it, and light skin.

>>17851883
chgs didn't have blue eyes, we have only two samples, one is brown as fuck, the other is kinda intermediate skinned but still not light eyed
>ANE had blonde hair
no ANE had blonde hairs
>but muh rs12821256
see >>17850966

>>17851407
>>17851473
>>17851102
ANE were 85% Kostenki like. How can they possibly be Abos if they cluster on top of archaic West Eurasians?
afontova gora was a little girl. Little White girls arguably do have the muscularity of pajeet males kek.
We know ANE didn’t darken populations they mixed with like swarthoids do.
We know ANE had more than one gene for blondism and of the 5 genes that make someone blonde ANE contributed three of them.
We know ANE lacked any genetic affinity with non-West Eurasians save for one extremely basal eurasian ghost population.

ANE was White.
The White British raped pajeets
The White steppe raped pajeets
The White ANE raped pajeets
Who is surprised by the dominance of White people?
Whites have always been on top.

>>17851892
No, KK had Herc2
For an extremely pure basal CHG to have the genes for blue eyes makes it very unlikely blue eyes wasn’t in their population from the outset.
>brown as fuck
Nope. They lack the genes for dark skin.
>intermediate
Most Whites are intermediate. You shitskins from MENA are borderline black genetically.
Slavs have intermediate skin coloration genes. CHG being as pale as Slavs and having blue eyes makes them White.

I know CHG raped the fuck out of you and raped your ancestors but this is no reason to cope.
Yes, people Who looked like modern Europeans raped your smelly stinky Arab looking creaturas.
>hairs
ESL
ANE had blondism and ANE admixed populations became the blondest on the planet.

You’re in denial because you instinctually know (ancestral memory) blondes are superior.

>>17851102
>does not answer the question
maybe (you) are a brown abbo sukhdeep shitberg

>>17851905
One of the two chgs was only heterozygous for rs12913832 aka only had one copy, and overall was not predicted to have blue eyes

>Nope. They lack the genes for dark skin.
You don't know how any of this works, there's no "dark skin" gene unlike what you heard in some telegram comment that you will probably spam here, they didn't have enough derived alleles in a pa that cause depigmentation
>Most Whites are intermediate. You shitskins from MENA are borderline black genetically
I'm not a menagroid and I didn't imply anything by calling it intermediate, simply stating a fact
>I know CHG raped the fuck out of you and raped your ancestors but this is no reason to cope.
Chg was a mena, chg ancestry pulls you towards the mena and chgs were historically losers that were raped by actually white and European ehgs and Ukraine hgs
>ANE had blondism and ANE admixed populations became the blondest on the planet.
Ane did not have blondism I can download their bam files and run them with hirisplex right now, and rs12821256 contributes very little to blonde hairs

>>17851906
you're posting old ass shit, levantines were never white

>>17851933
You only need one copy.
There are genes that code for melanin, yes. When you lack these you are lighter.
>CHG was mena
And yet they plot far away from MENA.
What makes MENAmutts what they are is late basal Eurasian
>hirisplex
Doesn’t work
>ANE didn’t have blondism
Having the gene for blondism means your population is capable of producing blondes.
This is just a fact.
ANE had blondes.
ANE created blondes.

>>17851905
>For an extremely pure basal CHG to have the genes for blue eyes makes it very unlikely blue eyes wasn’t in their population from the outset
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-AXq_Wthyo

>>17851939
>You only need one copy.
no you don't, it depends on other snps, and the satrubrilia lacks a ton of depigmentation alleles, they are predicted as brown eyed
>There are genes that code for melanin, yes. When you lack these you are lighter
it's the other way around, the kotias lacks even some of the most basic derived eurasian depigmentation snps, making it brown as fuck
>And yet they plot far away from MENA.
they plot exactly in the MENA
>What makes MENAmutts what they are is late basal Eurasian
chgs are loaded with it
>Doesn’t work
don't work what? the same researches that claim this and that allele cause depigmentation made hirisplex to test the overall results on skin/hair/eye color based on the snps they discovered, it's not perfect but it's all in the same branch
>Having the gene for blondism means your population is capable of producing blondes.
nope and rs12821256 isn't a "gene for blondism" >>17850966 rs12913832 so called blue eye snps that whgs haveas well as other snps have a higher weight on blondism than rs12821256, and only something like 2% of northern europeans have it

you're completely out of your depth hear, it's like hearing someone that time traveled from 2015

>>17851935
>provides no evidence
(your) tribe was never human

>>17852017
sure, like all the studies that came out since 2013 that actually use ancient samples
my "tribe" is not levantines, i don't need to belong to a certain group to recognize historical truths

>Finally, we fit all the ancient and modern Lebanese data into an admixture graph model showing their relationship with other ancient populations by using data in set 2. The graph supports the results reported here, showing substantial genetic continuity in Lebanon since the Bronze Age interrupted by three significant admixture events during the Iron Age, Hellenistic period, and Ottoman period, each contributing 3%–11% of non-local ancestry to the admixed population

>>17850516 (OP)
STJ was right about the bell beaker and corded ware languages too, and about italo-celtic too

>>17851906
>we wuz ancient semites and shiet

>>17850587
he said south french from the pyrenees and corsica, the romans plot with them too, so he didn't lie

>>17850587
>>17852074
Here's what he would've actually said if he wasn't a nordicist we wuzer:
>the Etruscans were similar to Western Mediterranean populations such as Iberians, North Italians and South French
>we can't really say anything about the Latins since there are only six samples and two of them are mixed

>>17851906
There is no close link between the Levantines and the European clusters.

>>17851959
>it depends on other SNPs
nope. You can have blue and hazel with only HERC2.
>eurasian depigmentation
original humans werent black you dumb animal, they had capoid pigmentation, having any kind of intermediate makes you lighter which CHG had.
They had more lightening alleles than Modern MENAmutts.
>plot exactly in MENA
look at any PCA, they are more distant from MENA than many Europeans, MENA claims CHG because CHG males completely replaced non-CHG males at a rate of 95%. MENAmutts associate them with their patriarchal clan systen despite not resembling them at all, rape baby behavior.
>CHGs are loaded with it
nope. CHGs are ANE and Kostenki derived.

hirisplex doesnt work because its based on modern population expression.
we dont know what alleles do unless we can see them expressed.
>isnt a gene for blondism
It is literally a gene for blondism.
>out of depth
You are in denial. Take a genetics class, You come across as an amateur taking the word of other amateurs.
You dont even know what incomplete dominance is. You have a very outdated view of genetic expression, the irony.

>>17851959
>rs12821256
FYI, this is a gene for blondism and something like 10-15% of Northern Europeans have it, which overlaps perfectly with the rate of adult blondism expressed in Northern Europeans.
>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4704868/

ANE produced blonde haired people, they were White if not Nordic.
As if the Tarim mummies werent enough to prove this.

>>17851935
>>17852063
>>17852901
habiru and negroes were latecomers to the Levant and Middle East

>>17851894
Modern Whites have way more basal ancestry, ANS/ANE were Tianyuan + Kostenski related.

>>17850879
where do you think?

>>17853310
>nope. You can have blue and hazel with only HERC2.
hilariously incorrect, you can score blue eyes without that snps alltogether, even if that snps increases the chances by quite a margin, and you can have brown hairs with that snp especially if you only have 1 copy of that allele
>original humans werent black you dumb animal, they had capoid pigmentation, having any kind of intermediate makes you lighter which CHG had.
>They had more lightening alleles than Modern MENAmutts.
unsubstantiated retarded claims, the kotias lacked most alleles for depigmentation in europeans
>look at any PCA, they are more distant from MENA than many Europeans, MENA claims CHG because CHG males completely replaced non-CHG males at a rate of 95%. MENAmutts associate them with their patriarchal clan systen despite not resembling them at all, rape baby behavior.
CHG is mena and pulls you towards the MENA, chg is closer to most menas than to any european, you are blatantly lying
>nope. CHGs are ANE and Kostenki derived.
CHGs are loaded with basal
>hirisplex doesnt work because its based on modern population expression.
literal retarded subhuman, the concept that rs12913832 increases the chances of blue eyes or that rs12821256 increases the chances of blonde hairs are based on modern population, you're literally the stupidest mongrel on this planet, it's all connect, reject hirisplex and you reject the whole "pigmentation science"
>It is literally a gene for blondism.
it's a worthless genes that increases the chances of blondism only by a little bit as i have demonstrated
can you read these simple numbers from this study i linked >>17850966?

>You are in denial. Take a genetics class, You come across as an amateur taking the word of other amateurs.
this is fucking hilarious you are literally the most retarded mongrel in this thread, you don't know shit about the argument, i can pull up the bam files of any of these samples and shit out their "phenotype" prediction

>>17853314
>FYI, this is a gene for blondism and something like 10-15% of Northern Europeans have it, which overlaps perfectly with the rate of adult blondism expressed in Northern Europeans
no, rs12821256 increases the rate of blondism only by a tiny bit, it's irrelevant, retarded mongrel look at this chart, some unknown snp like rs1667394 increases the chances of blonde hair by more than 2 times the rate of rs12821256, let alone other snps >>17850966

>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4704868/
>Together with other genes, rs12821256 helps explain 3 to 6% of variance in categorical hair color scores
lmao, it's so fucking irrelevant even according to this paper you linked, it can at best explain 4.5% of the variation of hair color and not even independently but only as a function of other snps
it's so irrelevant

>>17853715
You didn't demonstrate it, but we can clearly see from the genetic studies on the ancient populations of the region that they were akin to west asians

>>17850557
he never said that

>>17853314
Depending on the country 1/3 to 2/3 of north and central europeans exhibit blondism, a rate of blondism of around 10% is on the same level of medjeets

>>17854147
>CHG is mena and pulls you towards the MENA, chg is closer to most menas than to any european, you are blatantly lying
This is wrong, idiot. Excluding CHG-rich Iranians, the CHG are closer to Italians and Greeks than to most of MENA. Heck, CHG is closer to Swedes and Finns than to Moroccans and Algerians.

>CHGs are loaded with basal
CHG is loaded with ANE and had less basal than EEF and Natufians.

>>17854421
>This is wrong, idiot. Excluding CHG-rich Iranians, the CHG are closer to Italians and Greeks than to most of MENA. Heck, CHG is closer to Swedes and Finns than to Moroccans and Algerians.
chg is menajeet garbage closer to literal pakistanis and indians than to anyone in northern europe
>CHG is loaded with ANE and had less basal than EEF and Natufians.
chg is loaded with ANE and other garbage, it's distant from european hgs, the real people responsible for european drift, it's mena, and in fact saying it's mena could considered wrong only if you're claiming that it should considered pajeet
your attachment to this ancient paki mongrel is peculiar not something an european would do

>>17850516 (OP)
https://send.now/gbmsrgxenj02

>>17854642
Thanks but still no supplelentary material, goddamn Chinese, it's the first time ever is see paywalled supplementary

>>17854648
Supplemental information can be found online at
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.
cub.2025.06.054

- Spreadsheet (296.07 KB)
Data S1. Sample information and genetic results of the genomes in our study, related to STAR Methods and Figures 1 and 4


- PDF (24.69 MB)
Document S2. Article plus supplemental information

>>17854711
yeah but it's under paywall, try to download them and it redirects you to the full access purchese

>>17854167
King Tut thoughever

>>17855289
has r1b like most mexicans, ah haplogroups, the great midwit filter

>>17854926
the spreadsheet mmc2.xlsx is available

>>17854926
all the files are available, (just open them in a new window)

>>17855350
But he stepped on the eternal j*w
That makes him White in my books

>>17854452
>chg is menajeet garbage closer to literal pakistanis and indians than to anyone in northern europe
CHG is closer to Nords than Nafris and Pajeets.

Distance to: Georgia_Kotias_Mesolithic:KK1
0.24574415 Italian_Calabria
0.27269953 Afrikaner
0.27585313 German_Erlangen
0.27808005 Mordovian
0.27809962 Erzya
0.28008630 Russian_Orel
0.28036550 Irish
0.28538315 Icelandic
0.32258856 Tunisian
0.33205900 Algerian
0.34306880 Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Castes
0.34423578 Moroccan
0.34620361 Bengali_Bangladesh
0.34720747 Baniya_Uttar_Pradesh_Gupta
0.46771670 Berber_Algeria

>chg is loaded with ANE and other garbage
ANE and CHG and such aren't garbage they raped ANF WHG to extinction, medjeet.

>whgs
Literal garbage only fit to be raped by ANE.

>your attachment to this ancient
I'm a different person and joined this conversation.

>>17855739
nice cherrypicking, but they are closer to brown people like georgians, armenians, kurds iranians, azerbaijanis and pakistanis than they are to any northern european

Distance to: Georgia_Kotias.SG
0.13692788 Georgian_West
0.15782553 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.16475478 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.17141577 Iranian_Persian_Fars
0.17151345 Azerbaijani_Republic_Shaki
0.17159144 Iranian_Cosmopolitan_Tehran
0.17161966 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.17193115 Azerbaijani_Republic_Gabala
0.17275687 Tat_Dagestan_Nyugdi
0.17310829 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.17335915 Iranian_Lor_Bakhtiari
0.17361766 Irani_Zoroastrian_India
0.17375593 Iranian_Persian_Khorasan
0.17414117 Iranian_Persian_Yazd
0.17524855 Kurd_USSR
0.17578398 Iranian_Persian_Shiraz
0.17657516 Iranian_Central
0.17660838 Iranian_Lor_Khorramabad
0.17742074 Kurd_Sorani_Iran_Mukriyan
0.17925217 Armenian_Artsakh
0.17986115 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
0.18011336 Kurd_Zaza_Turkey
0.18103307 Azerbaijani_Iran_Ardabil
0.18133983 Azerbaijani_Republic_Agjabedi
0.18201441 Kurd_Iraq
0.18231909 Iranian_Bandari
0.18254909 Kurd_Syria
0.18276986 Armenian_Parspatunik
0.18300078 Azerbaijani_Iran_WestAz_Maku
0.18300430 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.18340400 Armenian_Syunik
0.18355531 Azerbaijani_Iran_EastAz
0.18417377 Georgian_Meskheti
0.18417458 Pashtun_Afghanistan_Paktia
0.18419605 Pashtun_Pakistan_Bettani
0.18584221 Pashtun_Afghanistan
0.18633119 Iranian_Qashqai
0.18906061 Pashtun_Afghanistan_North
0.18943089 Balochi_Iran
0.19036647 Balochi_Pakistan
0.19195275 Armenian_Gurin
0.19216248 Armenian_Erzurum
0.19391177 Pashtun_Pakistan_Khattak_Nowshera
0.19831245 Armenian_Aintab
0.19889380 Pashtun_Tarkalani
0.19924687 Pashtun_Afghanistan_Northeast
0.20012801 Pashtun_Northeast_Afghanistan


>ANE and CHG and such aren't garbage they raped ANF WHG to extinction, medjeet.
no medjeet, chg never even remotely touched the whgs, no mostly whg population with j haplo has ever existed
>I'm a different person
who are you trying to fool, medjeet? same chg worship and low iq

>>17855802
>nice cherrypicking
We are using the same population, retard. CHG is closer to Nords than Nafris and Pajeets. CHG may not be closest to Nords but they are closer to Nords than Nafri, Pajeets, spics, and other browns.

>but they are closer to brown people like georgians, armenians, kurds iranians, azerbaijanis
These are Kavkaz, not Arabs or Nafris or Pajeets or spics.

>no medjeet
You aren't fully medjeet, since you a spic with nig and indio ancestry.

>who are you trying to fool
I've already beat you spic retard. Reply to the posts you believe are mine and I'll screenshot it.

>>17855860
>CHG is closer to Nords than Nafris and Pajeets.
chg is closer to brown georgians, armenians, kurds, iranians, azerbaijanis and pakistanis than to northern europeans
>These are Kavkaz, not Arabs or Nafris or Pajeets or spics.
brown people indeed
>You aren't fully medjeet, since you a spic with nig and indio ancestry.
nope, i'm northern european
>I've already beat you spic retard. Reply to the posts you believe are mine and I'll screenshot it.
all the posts i replied to are yours, and i won't play your jeet games

>>17855875
>chg is closer to brown georgians, armenians, kurds, iranians, azerbaijanis and pakistanis than to northern europeans
And CHG is closer to Nords than Nafri, Pajeets, spics, and other browns.

>brown people indeed
If they are brown that would mean all WSH populations were brown due to having CHG, in addition to brown ANF and black WHG.

>nope, i'm northern european
You are a brown latinx goblino not European.

>all the posts i replied to are yours
If you don't quote them then I will to further humiliate you.