Thread 17856779

churchill was a short-sighted clown but the british empire was dead in the water regardless of whether they declared war on germany in WW2 or not

You should have posted a picture of FDR, Nazi. Hitler wanted to exterminate white European Slavs. He started the war.

>>17856779 (OP)
>So now that we have given half of Europe to the Soviets and 10 million white Europeans are dead, we finally accomplished our goal of uhm … eh … see, politics is about compromises, okay?

>>17856791
Hitler didn’t care about Europeans in general. He was a Germanic supremacist and believed Nordics were the best of the Germanics and only these Nordics could create a real state or culture.

>>17856794
Why did he ally himself with brown Italians then

>>17856796
Italians were considered much higher on the racial hierarchy than Slavs. And also opportunism and practical reasons. Italy couldn’t have provided the Lebensraum they were looking for.

>>17856779 (OP)
The Russians are based. Based Russia and Based Poland will save Europe from the Anglo-Germans

>>17856796
Italians gave us the Renaissance. Even if some of them are kind of swarthy it can be overlooked

>>17856788
Slavs aren’t White. Look at how they behave today. Half of Poland doesn’t have plumbing. Ukrogs and Mobiks are genociding each other on behalf of their jewish leaders. Yugroids are still unrepentantly genocidal.

If Slavs don’t want to be removed from Europe. What the fuck are they doing in Europe?
Go back to Asia then.

>>17856779 (OP)
>litterally tried to start WW3 to free the other half of Europe from the Soviets

>>17856839
As ever, neo-nazism inevitably leads to third world worldism and anti-whiteness.

>>17856859
Slavs are the Whitest people there are. We should punish this impudent fool

>>17856839
> Half of Poland doesn’t have plumbing.

Wut
It’s about to surpass the uk in living standards

>>17856779 (OP)
>we finally accomplished our goal
Wasn't it Churchill who wanted to contiue the war against the Soviet Union?
You know.. Operation Unthinkable?

>>17856779 (OP)
>Another Churchill Deransgement Syndrome thread
yawn

>>17856859
>Western European Elitism concerning Slavs is "third worldism"
You are the personification of that artwork where Slavic tribals are dancing around overgrown spacecraft.

>>17856799
>Italians were considered much higher on the racial hierarchy than Slavs
sicilians weren't

>>17856779 (OP)
All of that for the worst people of all time

>>17856779 (OP)
This guy was the only Allied leader who wanted to actually keep going all the way to Moscow but was cucked by FDR.

OP is a shitskin pajeet, as usual.

>>17856779 (OP)
I sincerely doubt ten million White Europeans died during WWII.

>>17856779 (OP)
In his defense - he was drunk during most of it.

>>17859407
Why would being cucked to FDR be a point in his favor

>>17857624
Slavs were the first in space

>>17859869
Because it proves that you a shit colored Indian who doesn't actually know anything about Churchill. You probably think he was the king of England or some shit.

>>17859973
The King of England? Perhaps not
The King of Poland is a title more fitting

>>17857624
Notice how the anon doesn't address his anti-whiteness?

>>17856791
I thought the guy in OP's pic was supposed to be the winner and this guy the loser?

>>17860014
>when you are utterly defeated on every front, your men are retreating as fast as they can run to surrender to the British and Americans so they aren't tortured to death by the Soviets, your women are being gang raped on an industrial scale, your cities are ash and rubble and you shoot yourself in the face and have your corpse burned so the Jews that are closing in all around you can't smack it around, you win!

>>17860020
Are you quoting yourself?

>>17860037
>when your enemies utterly fuck you, you win!

>>17860041
Get a job

>>17856779 (OP)
What he should've just given all of Europe to Germany then?

>>17856779 (OP)
Killing Nazis is a goal onto itself. The most noble and pure goal in the world, even.

>>17860058
YES!

Remember humans anytime you think you are tough because of your ability to make war
>That night the angel of the LORD went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning—there were all the dead bodies!

>>17856796
Hitler was a personal fan of Mussolini and didnt cared at all about the Med area. So it made sense to choose and ally whose geopolitcal ambitions werent at odds with Germany's

>>17858630
The most nazi-approved italian in the world, Evola (a close collaborator of Himmler), was litterally sicilian

>>17860424
>Hitler was a personal fan of Mussolini
It was,rhe opposite moron.
Hitler and Mussolini despised each others and Italy was initially in the allied camp during the Stresa Front, and actively threatened war with Germany over the Anschluss.
They then became allies for roughly less than 2 years before Italy scorned Germany for starting a war Italy wasn't prepared for, and Germany scorned Italy for not honoring their treaty to join the war.
By the time Italy did join the war 10 months later, they went against Germanys focus of the war and only got Germany entangled in several more fronts.
Italian autism about "lul the Mediterranean is ours" also caused diplomatic damage to Germany. Ever wondered why Turkey never aligned with Germany? Yeah that was the reason.

Germany never trusted Italy not even during the war, which is the reason why Germany never leased their superior tank or plane designes to Italy (as opposed to the allies who shared M4 Sherman designs and nuclear program between themselves), and Germany never informed Italy of any of her decisions, such as the monumental decision to attack USSR, even tho Italy was expected to join but only found out in the last minute. Likewise Italy never informed Germany of her decisions. This is compared to the allies who literally had a joint Supreme command, pooled their resources, and held annual high meetings to coordinate a unified strategy.
The axis was a sham alliance.

>>17856779 (OP)
>So now that we have given half of Europe and half of Germany to the Soviets and 10 million white Europeans are dead, we finally accomplished our goal of uhm … eh … see, politics is about no compromises, ok?

>>17856867
>>17856788
>>17856859
Bogdan I think it’s better to own your Slavic non whiteness than try to force yourself be part of a group you’re not welcome in.

>>17860284
This but by “Nazis” we mean Poles.

>>17860020
But this never happened. The Germans fought like lions right until the very end and the Soviet rapes were most often against the very old and more often than not the Polish girls of the Armija Krajowa.
I don’t know why Poles fantasize about rape, might be ancestral memory as Poles were raped more than Germans. But I agree the Slavs are a rapey people, endemic to the R1a genome, jeets are also like this.
We should exterminate these rapists.

>>17860041
This is literally what Poles claim though.
>Pyzadksyvoy kurwa Poland resisted Poland stronk Poland wonska
>literally lost more land than Germany and raped so hard they cluster genetically right on top of Russians

>>17856779 (OP)
>we finally accomplished our goal of uhm … eh…
Fell for the USA's debt trap and lost the empire.

>so the USSR had to play by the same rules, right?
lol.

>>17856779 (OP)
To protect Poland from falling under a German totalitarian regime, we will fight to ensure it falls under a Russian totalitarian regime.

>>17861207
>stormfaggots are now claiming the rape of Berlin never happened
It's because of the cuck memes isn't it. It's bad that the Asiatic and Jew hordes raped millions of German women, but it's also bad that German men were cucked so you have to gloss over it.

>>17860638
>anti-whiteness continues

>>17856779 (OP)
>we finally accomplished our goal of uhm
Poland's independence?

>>17861221
Poles and Russians are fellow Slavs

>>17861289
>fellow Slavs
Pan-Slavism is a stupid meme. Pan-anything is a stupid meme.

>>17861249
Most victims of Slav rape by the Red Army were killed afterward.
This is because the Soviets were LARPing as feminist so they couldn't let rape victims live to damage that reputation

>>17856839
>>17860638
so now that we've established that this woman is non-white, what ethnicity is she instead?

>>17861317
Looks Kazakh to me

>>17861317
I don’t know her but I know her great grandfather spoke Mongolian.
>>17861254
Bogdan you are quite literally the face of die untermenschen.

>>17861317
She is the ethnicity that owes me sex.
>>17861390
Her entire family is Mongolian.

>>17861249
>point out that the Rape of Poland left a serious genetic scar on Poles to this day reflected in their DNA tests
>point out the rape of Germany was largely against infertile and infirm women who couldn’t flee west and had no discernible impact on Prussian let alone Broader German genetics

>this means no rape occurred
I am consistently baffled by Poland’s existence. You’d think they’d forget to eat and drink, how do they even live?

>>17856779 (OP)
>So now that we have given half of Europe to the Soviets and 10 million white Europeans are dead, we finally accomplished our goal of uhm …
power
it's always about power stop looking for it guys power power
and they got it
every single human relationship can be reduced to power

>>17856791
>this means i win somehow but it was also unfair and everything is terrible but none of it is because i won which i did but history is written by the victors even though i won and uh uh uh shut up jew

>>17856791
He didn't compromise though.
Nothing that happened after the war happened with any amount of his consent. He fought for something else to happen after the war; he never worked with the soviets.

>>17860058
Or you know; just Poland.

>>17860041
>>17860020
>>17856791
Are these polish animals aware that Hitler was beaten? Does the specter of Hitler still haunt them?
If Hitler won and Europe was communist then you can say it’s his fault.
Otherwise, well, Britain and Poland both sabotaged the German army while it was in Asia battling to keep the communists in Asia and out of Europe.
>b-but
Look man, 1944, commies were in Asia, when the British landed and the Poles did their Warsaw rape victims rise up, we saw the communists reach their geographic maximum within a year.

>>17863375
Eastern Europe wouldn't have all gone to the Soviets if Hitler didn't start a second war with the Soviet Union. In fact all the deaths could have been avoided if Hitler just kept the deal he made with Chamberlain.

>>17863730
Correction, some of the deaths. Obviously the nazi's would have kept on killing people in the territory they controlled, because they were evil.

>>17863375
Your memes are so dumb and ahistorical they don't even make any sense.

Churchill didn't declare war on Germany, it was Chamberlain.
>ensure the political oppression of all of eastern europe
That happened anyway. It's not something that occurred only after the defeat of Nazi Germany. In the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact Germans and Soviets split their spheres of influence.
>anglophile leader
For how long? And what about his successors? Why should the British suddenly stop following their policy of balance of powers and allow Germany to become the European hegemon. Because that was their goal. Even in their peace proposals they pretty clearly state that they want to be a continental hegemon.
Soviet Union was far away from Britain, it was clearly a lesser threat than Germany.

>>17863735
Source?

>>17863758
>making the Soviet Union the unparalleled hegemon of Europe is balancing
LOL

>>17863712
You should ask OP that. I bet OP is not polish

In an alternative timeline he bombs Germany with anthrax bombs in 1943-1944 and German problem is solved forever.

>>17863862
>mass murder Whites
Why are Poles like this?
Anyway Hitler would have retaliated with Sarin which has a higher mortality rate than Anthrax.

>>17856779 (OP)
Why do people give so much credit to the UK for really being able to do anything during WW2 other than survive/resist invasion? The British Army in 39 was half the size of either German or French armies, and a fraction of the size of the Soviet Army. Britain could turtle up against invasion and cause trouble in the skies and the sea, but really had very little ability to effect change on the continent.

>>17863758
>>17863758
>Why should the British suddenly stop following their policy of balance of powers and allow Germany to become the European hegemon.
Because European Hedgemony was coming one way or another; the only question was would that hedgemony be more friendly to the british empire or less.
The brits ended up back the hedgemonic continental power that was ideologically opposed to their empire and openly funded anti-conlonialist uprisings across africa and asia.
lt was a retarded decision; just flat out fucking retarded from the perspective of self interest.

>>17863361
>he never worked with the soviets.
Are you fucking kidding me?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

>Because European Hedgemony was coming one way or another
How the fuck do you figure that out? Napoleonic hegemony looked a whole lot more certain in the early 19th century, and look what happened. You Hitlerites are honestly mad, you can't empathise with anyone who isn't actively working for the furtherance of National Socialism at all. Even the commies have more awareness of geopolitics.

>>17863375
Like it was just the Sudatenland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_for_our_time
Peace for our time right?

>>17863898
Bombers and blockade did its own decisive damage to Germany. That's the key factor from British involvement.

British SOE and Ultra also did catastrophic damage to Germany. The Russians knew pretty much everything that the Germans were up to because the British were reading German codes like an open book.
SOE armed and trained some of the worst partisans in Jugoslavia.

Finally, the entire Mediterranean / North Africa front was a British effort, which tied up considerable axis resources.

This is all excluding the fact that Commonwealth forces were also fighting Japan in the far east; in Burma, new guinea, in the pacific, and providing vital aid for the KMT in China. Britain also provided a staging ground for US commitment in the European front.

>>17864100
A united Europe could be achieved without a country claiming king of the hill.
Both France and Germany attempted to unify Europe under their respective hegemony.
After both had failed and beaten each others blue in post-1945, they realized that they would have to settle for a compromise to unify the European political sphere and economic block.
The EU is essentially a French-German brainchild and they make most of the calls and shots because the EU is primarily administrated and financed by these two. Even then the British saw it as a threat to their sovereignty, just as they had done in 1805 and 1939.

>>17864107
The Molotov Ribbentrop pact isn’t working with the Soviets.
No matter how many times poles screech about it, Germany is not obligated to declare war on the USSR.

>>17864107
>you can’t empathize with anyone who isn’t working to further national socialism
You don’t “further” national socialism.
You misunderstand us because you are a lefty.
We aren’t mid century Germans. We don’t live in Germany. We aren’t national socialists.
We want our countries to be free of foreign influence, you erroneously call this national socialism because your entire worldview was downloaded from a DeNazification style curricula which is being taught all over the Western world wherein the natives people and ways of a country are colored negatively while the foreigner is colored positively.

You call any kind of self preservation national socialism.
It’s not “us” who can not empathize. We can, we just do not empathize with people whose root driver is demanding we go extinct or into servitude.

>>17856785
I don't think it would have exploded so monumentally had he not decided to fight on, they likely would have had to make some concessions regardless, but the reason shit went as horrendously as it did was because the Empire bankrupted itself fighting a total war for the second time only 20 years after the first one.

>>17864289
You realize that most people here just finds you extremely obnoxious abd annoying because you can't shut the fuck up about your thoughts and opinions om 2025, on a fucking history board.
And you can't stop projecting this shit onto a history discussion.

You see this as some sort of ideological battle so you're fundamentally irrational. You're too ideologically invested in the debate because of your bullshit interpretations of how its connected to your current views of 2025, on a fucking history board.

History is all about understanding the people at the time and see perspectives. It requires you to be completely neutral to make an accurate assessment.
You can't do this because you already belong to a camp, and it's the only thing you care about.

Fuck
Off
Back
To
/pol/

>>17864289
There is literally no difference between /pol/tards (you) and reddit trannys. You both work in the same way but from the opposite direction. It's all about infecting history discussions with your personal political world view from 2025 for the sake of ideological victory.

A dream scenario would be if /his/ was a platform free of both.

>>17864289
>We want our countries to be free of foreign influence
What does that mean?
The weak form of that argument is shutting down AIPAC
The strong form of that argument is Authoritarian Censorship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Nazi_Germany

>>17856912
jeeh maybe he shouldve thought of that BEFORE BANKRUPTING THE EMPIRE

>>17864997
>most people here
Its just you screeching.
>projecting
We literally can not discuss WWII without Polish nationalists, zionists, and shitlibs devolving into ideological war against Hitler and National Socialism.
>you see this as some ideological battle
no, actually I dont, that is (You).
It is always these deranged anti-nazi anti-racist anti-White posts that wont allow any sort of credit to the Nazis or Hitler because doing so would "legitimize" them.
>on a history board
Do you not realize people like (You) come here to redefine history to suit your own ideological narrative?
You claim everything racist is from /pol/, everything that isnt biased against Hitler is from /pol/, theres no room for discussion, no room for debate, no room for dialectic, its demanded of everyone they agree with the narrative (You)re pushing.
>history is about understanding people and perspectives
Literally any thread about Hitler or National Socialism is
>its retarded
>could never work
>failed before it even began
Zero substance, zero material context, zero arguments made.
>/pol/

If this doesnt define the stpudity of your post.

NO ONE HERE IS FROM /POL/
>everything racist is from /pol/
>everything that isnt anti-Hitler is from /pol/
>everything that questions leftist orthodoxy is from /pol/

Are you aware /pol/ is not pro-Hitler?
Are you aware /pol/ does not even concern itself with history?
You have this idea of /pol/ as the "racist" board and then think anything counter to leftism is from /pol/.

Youre out of touch and completely inaccurate.

>>17865007
The difference is that theres no one from /pol/ on here.
>the same way
which is what?
>political world view for ideological victory
Saying that Hitler and National Socialism wasnt absolutely wrong and that Churchill, Stalin, and FDR were not absolutely right has become a pivot in an ideological battle for (You).
Me, myself, I do not care, I am only pointing out things which are true.
My language is always very factual and substantial, while yours is always very proscriptive like what you're doing now.
>>17865038
>what does that mean
Foreign people are not telling us what to do in our own countries.
the methods arent "arguments" but I see your point and I agree the Germans and Russians did have reliable and practical measures against subversion and infiltration.

>>17861745
>n..no it was just infertile and infirm women
Desperate cope. Look up the Berlin abortion rates from 1945-1946.

>>17863712
Where were Communists in August 1939?

>>17856785
>churchill was a short-sighted clown
Why?

>>17865478
I have looked them up, they are not meaningfully different from the decades before and after.
Poland on the other hand didnt have abortions and the majority of the Red Army was stationed in Poland. I wonder what happened there?
>>17865480
literally crawling all over Poland as 1/3 of jews were communist/socialist/labor and Poland was 1/4 jewish.

>>17865486
Did a Pole fuck your oneitis or something?

>>17856859
100%. Literally every Hitlarper ends up a third-worldist, pro-brown commie.

>>17865493
Do you think I am biased against Poles? I am not. I am only saying what is objectively true.
>>17865494
Where?
I have never met a "Hiterite" who is a third worldist.

Is it not possible for Whites to appreciate their great men?

>>17865526
No man ever to live has done more damage to the white race as a result of his choices alone than Hitler. He is not one of our great men.

>>17865526
hitler greatly contributed to million of raped and killed nazi whores for sure, i hope another hitler will soon emerge so we can finally get rid of g*ermans for once

>>17856779 (OP)
>>17856785
>>17856788
>>17856791
>>17856794
>>17856796
>Britain and America very very evil!!
>*1940 rolls around*
>Oooh oooh very good! Yes saar Britain verry good!!! Haha do it again saar Harris!!
>*1946*
>Muh colonailsm, muh slavery, muh conquest... let us immigrate saar...

>>17865548
>>17865601
You worship traitors who took jewish money and cheer on non-European invaders and blame the negative consequences of this on Hitler. You are abominable filth. The most vapid disgusting garbage humanity can conjure. Shall you literally burn in Hell.

>>17866671
sorry but hell is already packed too tight with all the dead and raped krauts