Thread 17857008

What were the implications of this?

The implication is that Poland was fine with Munich

>>17857008 (OP)
>What were the implications of this?
genocide. but we never ever talk about this.

>>17857008 (OP)
basically we czech(oslovak)s were surrounded by niggers in 1930's

>>17857222
German rule was an improvement in every way

>>17857008 (OP)
It wasn't invasion. Polish Govt asked Czechs to give back what they stole during 1920.

>>17857008 (OP)
That the Poles were just as much part of the game as USSR and Nazi Germany.

They also threatened war with Lithuania in 1939 which has also been memoryholed. They also put an ultimatum on Danzig in 1939 which escalated tensions with Germany.

Poland at the time was ruled by a quasi-fascist junta and polish society was deeply influenced by Endecja for 'Polishinization' of her minorities and anti-semitic laws. Half of her country had been conquered and as a consequence nearly half of her population was non-Polish. As OP mentioned Poland also jumpd at the opportunity to partition her neighbour's to expand.

Poland under Piłsudski entertained the idea of joining Nazi Germany, and the Germans first approached Poland in late 1938 on joining the anti-comintern pact, as Poland was initially envisioned to become a junior partner of the Axis. When Poland rejected the negotiations for Danzig and joining the anti-comintern pact, Hitler began making plans for the complete subjugation of the state by military force.


It doesn't have to make you a stormfag Hitler apologist to point this out, but it's quite obvious that the post-war propaganda narrative heavily depicts Poland as some sort of innocent bystanding victim (tho the nazies did end up murdering millions of Poles), when in reality Poland was trying to play the game just as much as the other dictators both to their own citizens and to other states.

>>17858100
>Poland under Piłsudski entertained the idea of joining Nazi Germany
Eh, that never really happened.

>>17858100
>They also put an ultimatum on Danzig in 1939
What did they demand?

Was Poland Evil?

>>17858160
People here have an anti-polish bias.
>>17858115

This is what happened:
> Danzig authorities intend, from 7 a.m. on August 6 to prevent a certain number of Polish Customs inspectors from carrying out their duties of control which form part of the recognized rights of the Polish Government on the Customs frontier. I am convinced that this infringement of the existing agreements, which has been committed by the local authorities, is the result of a misunderstanding or of a false interpretation of instructions given by the Senate of the Free City.
Here are Polish demands:
>Since the aforesaid incidents have occurred at several frontier posts, I am obliged to inform you that all Polish Customs inspectors have been ordered to carry out their duties, as from August 6, in uniform and armed, and this in all the frontier posts where they may consider it helpful to their duties. Any attempt to interfere with the execution of their duty, any attack or intervention by the police, will be considered an act of violence directed against Polish State officials in the discharge of their official functions. Should such abuses occur, the Polish Government would immediately initiate reprisals (retaliatory measures) against the Free City and the responsibility for these would fall entirely on the Senate.

>>17857222
Checked.
That's what you get for trusting the French. Shoulda seen they didn't have spine after the let the Brits talk them into closing the Spanish border.

>>17857008 (OP)
When Western powers gave Sudetenland to Germany because of its predominately German population, Poland took Zaolzie without asking because it was predominantly Polish (with 120,000 Poles and 30,000 Czechs).
The status of Zaolzie was long disputed between Czechs and Poles, Poland eventually agreed to give away Zaolzie to Czechoslovakia in 1920 under the condition that Czechs lift the blockade of western military equipment for Poland during Polish-Soviet 1920 war. Czechs reneged on this, they got Zaolzie and they didn't lift the blockade (they supported the Soviets during this war).
I didn't say that Poland was right, I gave some background as you must know the facts to have an opinion.

>>17858222
Appreciate the clarification.

>>17858045
And German government asked Poles to give back what was they stole in 1919

>>17858172
>People here have an anti-polish bias.
109 countries have an anti-Polish bias

>>17858324
Only some former Axis countries (not all of them even, Japan got angry at the Germans after they attacked Poland kek)
I wonder why you monkeys never cry about the Hungarians doing more or less the same during this crisis. Is it just because Hungary was an axis country and is was Poland that triggered the collapse of your pathetic nat-soc regime? kek

>>17858389
fuck, Italy - and Mussolini himself - supported Poland when nazi chimpanzees started imprisoning the Polish clergy just because reasons.

>>17858409
Italians have never had to live next to Poles. It's an unfortunate blindspot they have

>>17858222
>Poland eventually agreed to give away Zaolzie to Czechoslovakia in 1920 under the condition that Czechs lift the blockade of western military equipment for Poland during Polish-Soviet 1920 war.
this is pure bullshit.

>>17858412
We've had some Italian queen. Chances are that the Italians took the violin from us - they undoubtedly mastered it afterwards.

>>17858323
History didn't start in 1750 nigga

>>17859014
Polish history ended in 1799 and still hasn’t begun again.

>>17858389
Why are (E)SLavs so delusional?
>wrong about France being a superpower in 1930
>wrong about the Polish invasion of Zaolzie
>wrong about Danzig invasion
Just confoundingly stupid people.
>pathetic natsoc state
You mean the one that had universal indoor plumbing which Poland today still doesn’t have?
>they collapsed
They lost less land than Poland in 1945 lol.
Poland is a perpetual loser of history like all Eastern Slavs.
>KURWA WE ARE WESTERN SLAV
no! You’re not! Look at the recent PCA on Slavs. Poles are IDENTICAL to Russians genetically.
Ukrainians are more West-shifted than Poles.
Slovaks, Czechs, Sorbs, these aren’t even Slavic if we are to say Poland is on the Western cusp of Slavs genetically.
Czechs are genetically closer to Germans and French than they are to Poles.
Even Eastern Yugroids like Macedonians are more Western shifted than Poles living in Prussia.

Poles don’t actually know how asiatic they are. It’s why they must cope about their history. They are Russians without the numbers and land, in the Pole we see the true quality of the Russian without his geographic advantages and it is low.

>>17858110
>Eh, that never really happened.

Adolf Hitler attending memorial service of the Polish First Marshall Jozef Pilsudski in Berlin, 1935

>>17860522
If you think that the Poles (or any fucking body else in the world) somehow *aspire* to being similar to Germans then you are profoundly confused.

>>17860527
Hitler was making offers for Poland to conquer Russia together - Poland was supposed to get the part of Ukraine for that.
Pilsudski himself - who was the furthest from being a Russia lover- told him to fuck off and rightfully so.

>>17860527
Completely irrelevant. It's kind of crazy how ahistorical these posts are.
In 1935 Germany was weaker than Poland. This is before they started their expansion. Just two months before Pilsudski's death Germany reintroduced conscription. And they obviously did not demand anything from Poles in 1935.

>>17857222
democracy is nigger tier

>>17858415
They agreed to give it away if the Entente aids them in their war against the bolsheviks. Not much came out of it.
And yes, this is true, it happened during the Spa conference in 1920.

>>17860612
>documented history and photos are ahistorical
>my sourceless ramblings are the sole truth

>>17860771
Uh, yeah? I have ancestral spirit dreams. Your ai pictures mean nothing to me.

>>17857008 (OP)
The Poles were also ignoring (and supporting) Jewish death squads that were murdering and raping Germans by the hundreds, which forced Germany to invade in 1939.
This is all basic historyb

>>17860813
>The Poles were also ignoring (and supporting) Jewish death squads that were murdering and raping Germans by the hundreds, which forced Germany to invade in 1939.
um, no sweetie. Himmler blew up a radio tower or something and used that as justification for invasion. basic historyb

>>17860815
Himmler would never. The monstrous actions of the Polish attack on the German radio station proved the aggressive and unrelenting nature of the Polish government.

>>17860820
>Himmler would never.
he even named it after himself. thought it would be a funny joke or something
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Himmler

>>17860858
Classic Himmler

>>17857008 (OP)
The mamser always cries in pain as he strikes you.

>>17857008 (OP)
very niggerish

>>17858389
Hungarians aren't mamsers.

>>17860633
>All autocracies are nonwhite

>>17860577
Why do people move to Germany?

>>17860880
>murder efficient White people
>”heh see all the goyims are inefficient too”

>>17860606
>rightfully so
Then why did Poland invade the USSR the first time?
Why does Poland want to invade Ruzzia today?
You’re biased against the Germans. That’s it.

>>17861103
Poland want to invade because Russia is evil. It is a morale right to kill Russians.
This is similar to the Germans being evil as well. Every German must be decapitated to remove evil from the world.
Russians and Germans, sons of Satan.

>>17861044
They don't want to be German, but they want to be around Germans. Curious!

>>17861103
>Then why did Poland invade the USSR the first time?
Not to conquer Russia proper, the goal was to create independent Ukraine - a part of Pilsudski's plans of a federation of buffer states between Poland and communist Russia - and the offensive was carried on in alliance with the Ukrainians. Basically the current status quo but 100 years earlier.
>Why does Poland want to invade Ruzzia today?
First time I hear about it. Poles are absolutely fine with existence of independent Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and Poland.
>You’re biased against the Germans. That’s it.
We are biased when criminals take charge in countries bordering ours.

>>17861044
Not to call their sons Hans.

>>17860633
>democracy is nigger tier

>>17860612
>In 1935 Germany was weaker than Poland
>And they obviously did not demand anything from Poles in 1935

>>17860522
>pca
i'm not sure how that follows when eastern germany has been downmixed slavic since before the roman empire

>>17858110
jozef beck and his anglophilia was pretty much the sole reason for September 1939

the reality is Poland collaborated with Nazi Germany against the Soviets.

>>17860527
Hitler really pushed for that alliance, but I never saw anything that this was reciprocated by the Poles