Thread 17860814

Shepherds don't keep sheep because they love them or keep them as pets. They tend sheep so they can shear them and/or eat them.
>I-IT'S A METAPHOR O ALGO
Yeah? It's a weird fucking metaphor for a God who supposedly loves us.

>>17860814 (OP)
If someone called an overbearing mother a "helicopter parent" do you think she also flies if she rotates her arms really fast?

>>17860823
I already addressed it being a metaphor. It's weird to refer to your God as a farmer and yourselves as livestock.

>>17860825
It is also weird to refer to a parent as a vehicle

>>17860835
"Helicopter parent" at least makes sense because it illustrates that the parent is constantly around or "hovering" over their child. A shepherd is a farmer, sheep are farm animals. The only reason a shepherd would ever keep sheep is if he is farming or exploiting them in some way. You're just being intentionally obtuse and disingenuous though so me explaining this to you is pointless.

>>17860814 (OP)
If that were it, then a shepherd wouldn't really risk his life for 1 sheep and abandon 99. The relationship is obviously slightly different than a 4chan user imagines.

>>17860814 (OP) Give up already. Atheists cannot reason. A simple example like that and you cannot even grasp the meaning.

>>17860814 (OP)
Good metaphors refer to things people are familiar with, and shepherding would've been something lots of people back then were familiar with, though certain details are explicitly inverted, so "The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep" instead of the sheep being killed for the shepherd, just like how many things are supposed to be inverted in the Kingdom of God. And if you find the shepherding metaphor odd, you should also find it odd that Jesus told his disciples who were fishermen that he would make them "fishers of men," since fishermen eat what they catch. But it isn't like it's God's fault that so much of life revolves around eating other life, so it was an easy source of metaphors back then, is it? Or is it...

>>17861025
I'm not an atheist. I think the entity you call God is evil and is going to eat you.

>>17861053
>But it isn't like it's God's fault that so much of life revolves around eating other life

Are you serious? Who created life?

>>17861053
Jesus also gets compared to bread, a vine, someone who sows seed (so both a plant and a farmer), a lamb (so both a sheep and the shepherd), the cornerstone of a building (so all Christians are bricks) and Jesus literally was a tekton, commonly translated as carpenter, though it actually referred to any sort of builder or craftsman, and at the time and place would've been mainly associated with stone or brick-making (so jesus was the brick-maker and one of the bricks)... So just about all sides of ordinary life back then were incorporated into metaphors relating to Christianity in one way or another.

>>17861084
It was a joke. I'm not Christian. I find Christianity interesting, but the fact that the God it worships, who we're supposed to see as perfectly good, is also the creator of the universe and/or all powerful is a one-hit KO for me thinking the religion as a whole is good or true (setting aside all the other contradictions).

>>17861110
Oh, the Icthys fish acronym/symbol for Jesus also kind of puts Jesus indirectly on both sides of fishing too.

>>17861053
>good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep" instead of the sheep being killed for the shepherd,
Akshually, akshually historically shepherd was servicing collective, usually herded entire village livestock. Also it was somewhat expected from shepherd to put dedication and efforts and risk to guard animals when needed. . And in the case of the especially rigorous shepherds it may be excepted that he would bravely stand against wolfs and etc with his possible means he has.
But tt doesn't stop shepherd to be rewarded with sweet lamb for his efforts and making delicious kebab with this lamb

>>17861175
Fair enough, it isn't a total inversion but to the extent that there's a difference, it's clarified.

>>17861110
>.. So just about all sides of ordinary life back then were incorporated into metaphors relating to Christianity in one way or another.
Yeah but besides care shepherd has another meaning OP points out.
Its sounds as Freudian slip of author who made this metaphor.

>>17861189
Or, actually, on second thought, maybe there is a place in the collection of metaphors where God eats the Christian, depending on whether sacrifice counts, which I think it should since sacrifices are at least represented as God's "food" in some places, like Leviticus 21:6.

"Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship." — Romans 12:1

Hmm...

Maybe it's best for Christians to just own it. They eat God, so God gets to eat them. Fair enough.

Imagine gaining eternal life as part of God after being digested by him. There is no longer Jew or Greek; there is no longer slave or free, for you are all one in God's tummy. And it turns out that Christianity has been a Lovcraftian cosmic horror cult and God has been Cthulhu this whole time.

>>17861409
Christians eat God because they want to be eaten by him first when he comes back, applying the rule: "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

>>17860814 (OP)
Yeshua is the most successful rabbi of all time. He duped tens of billions of goylem into worshipping him as God and even called them his sheep.

>>17861414
whoa...das sum deep shit mayne

>>17860814 (OP)
Take the animal husbandry pill
God favored Abel, a shepherd
God sent Jesus, the Shepherd of Mankind
Consuming meat and dairy products is the ultimate assertion of our right as free sons of God

>>17862151
Nope, gonna have to side with Cain on this one. Working the land is a nobler profession.

”God wants to see you take care of what he’s given you. Nobody continues to give gifts to the ungrateful.” - Andrew Tate

>>17860814 (OP)
God made us to be his servants cuh no two ways about it

>>17862153
>graincel cope
enjoy rotting teeth, diminished stature, weaker muscles, brittle bones, lower t, lower stamina, gastrointestinal problems bro

>>17862176
He controls your personality, circumstances of your birth, hardens your heart

It's your fault though

>fishers of men

Do you know what we do to fish after we caught it

We guy the fish and eat it lol

Abrahamic religions are a psyop it trains you to be stupid cattle for archons to feed on

>>17862314
It's hilarious how it's all right there in the book but then you have christards going
>b-but its a metaphor